noob question from iphone user - Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a few noob questions about rooting on cdma hero. these questions also might other people who are totally new to this. Please answer the questions in most basic english, thank you.
1. what can you do after you root the CDMA hero?
2. pertaining to 1st question, since CDMA hero sprint is somewhat different from original hero, after rooting can you do the same things on CDMA hero sprint has the other htc hero?
3. Is there something similar to installous and cydia on the hero/andorid?
4. getting the "free" apps from websites/torrents/or other means, will it work on cdma hero. to clarify the question, since most apps are listed as for dream and other andorid, will it work for CDMA hero?
5. when you dowloand the free apps how do you install it on to your phone (i know this question is prob answered on the forum but if someone wouldn't mind explaining it in a simple way then it would be appreciated.)
6. also the openhome or ahome i think, what is the difference to root and add themes then use one of those programs. assuming you download the program from the web.
7. what is difference between a rom and theme?

geoff2005 said:
I have a few noob questions about rooting on cdma hero. these questions also might other people who are totally new to this. Please answer the questions in most basic english, thank you.
1. what can you do after you root the CDMA hero?
2. pertaining to 1st question, since CDMA hero sprint is somewhat different from original hero, after rooting can you do the same things on CDMA hero sprint has the other htc hero?
3. Is there something similar to installous and cydia on the hero/andorid?
4. getting the "free" apps from websites/torrents/or other means, will it work on cdma hero. to clarify the question, since most apps are listed as for dream and other andorid, will it work for CDMA hero?
5. when you dowloand the free apps how do you install it on to your phone (i know this question is prob answered on the forum but if someone wouldn't mind explaining it in a simple way then it would be appreciated.)
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1.) all sorts of things! (http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Why_Root)
2.) There are some differences but it's all the same for the most part (the main differences are what ROMs and Recovery Images you can use)
3.) There's no need for Cydia on the hero/android since you can install apps direct from the web or anywhere by default (just checkbox: Settings->Applications->Unknown Sources).
4.) You can download apps direct from the web just fine, see above. Some apps are coded specifically to take advantage of other models but they usually will say so...and if it doesn't work, you can just uninstall it from the app manager.
5.) When you download a free app, you just run it and it installs (If that doesn't work, you may need a file manager, I use Astro file manager from the market)

thanks for info!

geoff2005 said:
6. also the openhome or ahome i think, what is the difference to root and add themes then use one of those programs. assuming you download the program from the web.
7. what is difference between a rom and theme?
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6 & 7. Themes change the look of your UI. They are not permanent things and can be removed at any time with no problem or messing with backups etc. Roms are what you need root for. Roms can fully change code inside of the phone and can extend functionality past what you can usually do ie(stock roms cant wifi tether but the custom rom can). Roms are harder to get rid of though and to go back to what it was before you have to restore your phone to a previous state. Its all up to what you think you need.

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FORGIVE ME, but please help?

FORGIVE ME, for i am a total NOOB. I just got my g1 in the other day, and i am completely excited about it. I saw my friends phone and he was telling me i should root my phone, and told me all the benefits of it. The only thing is he didnt show me how to do it! instead told me to come here, the g1 shrine and all of its lovers. Now i just want some basic info anyone can give me, like:
1. what happens when i wipe my phone?
2. what exactly are roms? and why are there so many of them! (as im surfing through the threads)
3. what exactly is SPL?
4. and any other information you think is critical for my knowledge about the g1
Again i appreciate any help i can get from you guys, i know this community is a nice and friendly one so im glad to be here! thanks again guyss
1) when you wipe your phone it removes all personal data, e.g. google sign ins, apps, settings, messeges, etc. you WONT lose your contacts.
2) a ROM is a firmware build, which is what the phone runs on. There are quite a few of them because some are designed for looks over performance wheras some are for performance over looks.
3/4) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519523 - enjoy reading
dabx724 said:
FORGIVE ME, for i am a total NOOB. I just got my g1 in the other day, and i am completely excited about it. I saw my friends phone and he was telling me i should root my phone, and told me all the benefits of it. The only thing is he didnt show me how to do it! instead told me to come here, the g1 shrine and all of its lovers. Now i just want some basic info anyone can give me, like:
1. what happens when i wipe my phone?
2. what exactly are roms? and why are there so many of them! (as im surfing through the threads)
3. what exactly is SPL?
4. and any other information you think is critical for my knowledge about the g1
Again i appreciate any help i can get from you guys, i know this community is a nice and friendly one so im glad to be here! thanks again guyss
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Welcome to the forums... Get familiar with the search button at the top. You will be amazed at what you can find...
Please read the stickies at the top of the forum page. This question belongs in the General Forum...not developer!!!
No I will not forgive you. Lol. I think its hilarious how many idiots we get posting in the developers forum asking questions like, What is a rom? Also, one of the mods needs to delete this thread pronto!
currentuserjade said:
Please read the stickies at the top of the forum page. This question belongs in the General Forum...not developer!!!
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This is Spot on. DEVELOPMENT section is active here because this is a DEVELOPMENT forums. However Technical support or General Questions should be in the DREAM subsection of the DREAM forums. NOT IN DEVELOPMENT
Reported.
DeadPhoenix said:
This is Spot on. DEVELOPMENT section is active here because this is a DEVELOPMENT forums. However Technical support or General Questions should be in the DREAM subsection of the DREAM forums. NOT IN DEVELOPMENT
Reported.
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lol DP you are on a reported roll here tonight.
google and search is so easy use... i just don't get some (or most) people.
A little advice... before you start all of this, make sure it doesn't take control of you. Before you know it you'll have alerts waking you up at night telling you someone's new rom just was posted. It will take you over if you let it. lol
Moderation is key.
isn't this a repost anyway?
lol and you bought a Google phone with Google Search built in....
1. It wipes all data on your phone (apps and data, not your firmware)
2. ROM stands for Read Only Memory. Take it as your G1's operating system, like Vista or XP on a computer
3. SPL is pretty much the interface you will be using when flashing an image or using fastboot commands. Be careful when you flash an SPL though, it can potentially brick your phone
4. Just watch out when you flash the SPL, and remember to use Nandroid backups. Installing firmware and applications alone will NEVER brick your phone. Flashing your SPL incorrectly with a corrupted download can, remember to check the MD5 checksums.
dabx724 said:
FORGIVE ME, for i am a total NOOB. I just got my g1 in the other day, and i am completely excited about it. I saw my friends phone and he was telling me i should root my phone, and told me all the benefits of it. The only thing is he didnt show me how to do it! instead told me to come here, the g1 shrine and all of its lovers. Now i just want some basic info anyone can give me, like:
1. what happens when i wipe my phone?
2. what exactly are roms? and why are there so many of them! (as im surfing through the threads)
3. what exactly is SPL?
4. and any other information you think is critical for my knowledge about the g1
Again i appreciate any help i can get from you guys, i know this community is a nice and friendly one so im glad to be here! thanks again guyss
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I know the feeling of total noobness, let me tell you.. Especially if you coming here and reading all the threads for the first because it can be pretty overwhelming. Hopefully I can pass some of my knowledge on to you to kind of, ease your fears.
.:: Answers ::.
1.)If you wipe your phone, your restoring it to factory settings.
2.)ROMS are different versions of the OS that friendly developers such as Haykuro, JesusFreke and Cyanogen put together, to provide different functionalities or the same functionalities just more reliably or in a different way. (The only way you can use a different ROM is by having root access to your phone.)
3.)Secondary Program Loader, typically, a second stage bootloader. Not a term actually used by Qualcomm for msm7k has a more complex boot path involving both CPUs. Initial/secondary program loader is usually in reference to nand/onenand boot setups where you have a very small initial bootloader (1k to 16k typical), that is just enough to load a much larger secondary bootloader. Often there is something that runs first, in-rom, on-die (this is true of omap and msm chips for example) that is responsible for getting the IPL loaded.
4.)I would browse the Android FAQ to find other pieces to the much growing puzzle. I would definitely root your phone though (instructions here), and once your ready, setup your apps2sd (instructions here). If you want, I can help you do your apps2sd too, just hit me up on Gtalk if you want. As for ROMS, if you need help choosing, you can (go here) or if you want a suggestion, i would use Cyanogen's v3.4 ROM because it's an way modified version of JF'sv1.51 but allows you to use the Ext3 format for your apps2sd (which is good).
Hopefully this sheds more light for you, hit me up if you have any other questions.

G1 Problems and ROM Questions...

Hey guys and gals. I'm new here but I did have a few questions.
Right now my G1 is giving me problems. Here is the scenario. I have loaded into my phone the OpenHome with the Aero theme, BetterCut, Font-Games font pack, and the Icon pack for Aero. Once I set OpenHome to only use 3 screens, I get a force close error. Then, if I were to shut off the phone and then restart it, it hangs on the Android screen (the new one since I already have the cupcake loaded into my phone).
Has anyone had this problem? Any work arounds to fix it?
I was also thinking of rooting my phone to see if that would fix my problems.
Which ROM would you recomend for me to use? and what are the pros and cons for each. Not looking to the Rosie or Sense UI rom yet, but the basic Cupcake rom.
Thanks
This post is in the wrong section as this is for development only.
If you do root your mobile, I would currently suggest Cyanogen's ROM as its up to date, stable and has some cutting edge stuff inside. The theme is also sleek and lightweight without any real modifications to make it look like Hero etc.
XDA timeout - double post.
Thanks for you help.
And my bad about the double post. I'll be chillin in the penalty box if anybody needs me.
Don't worry about it, the double post was by me as XDA struggles with the amount of users hitting the forum ^_^ There's a new Q&A section for the Dream so you can post questions and that which are not related to the development of Android. Unless its a specific ROM issue usually the posts go there.
Hope the rooting and the use of the ROM of your choice goes well!
One last question.
Where can I find specific directions on how to root my phone for the very first time?
I've located a few things but keep getting errors when I try to install the ROM?
Thanks for all your help
dragonl77 said:
One last question.
Where can I find specific directions on how to root my phone for the very first time?
I've located a few things but keep getting errors when I try to install the ROM?
Thanks for all your help
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go to here..
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519523
helps me a lot when I'm in trouble.. it also covers everything you need..
Indeed, its a decent thread of which I hope still gets updated. I've also had it in my signature too, to help raise the awareness of such an FAQ.
I'm looking around and not seeing anything concerning Non-rooted phones already running cupcake (Build CRB43).
Will I have to downgrade to RC29 in order to begin rooting my phone?
And is that possible even though I'm running the latest version of Android (ver1.5)?
Good question! I didn't see that you had 1.5 OTA running as it wasn't stated in your original post so we assumed you were running on 1.1. I just quickly read that you wanted a basic cupcake ROM...
You would have to downgrade yeah if you want to obtain ROOT and thus enabling you to flash custom ROMs and other goodies.
Yes, you have to downgrade to RC29 and it can be done with the latest version of the phone software. Follow the directions they already posted. It's reasonably straightforward. There's even a video guide on youtube so you can see what the various screens look like.

Root and Know What?

I am Newbie and I Just Rooted my phone.
So what can I do Know?
I did the Wi-Fi Tethering and Worked.
I downloaded Metamorph but didn’t found any Themes.
I want to delete Sprint Apps, and don't know how to...
Want to change the lock screen, but without changing the ROM...
Anybody could come with a List of what people can do, know that the phone is rooted.
BTW I am Running Sprint 2.1
rockypr said:
I am Newbie and I Just Rooted my phone.
So what can I do Know?
I did the Wi-Fi Tethering and Worked.
I downloaded Metamorph but didn’t found any Themes.
I want to delete Sprint Apps, and don't know how to...
Want to change the lock screen, but without changing the ROM...
Anybody could come with a List of what people can do, know that the phone is rooted.
BTW I am Running Sprint 2.1
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http://geekfor.me/category/hero/kitchen/
Click on the link and download Fresh Kitchen.
You can create a nandroid, remove the bloatware, change the current lockscreen, create your own rom.
rockypr said:
I am Newbie and I Just Rooted my phone.
So what can I do Know?
I did the Wi-Fi Tethering and Worked.
I downloaded Metamorph but didn’t found any Themes.
I want to delete Sprint Apps, and don't know how to...
Want to change the lock screen, but without changing the ROM...
Anybody could come with a List of what people can do, know that the phone is rooted.
BTW I am Running Sprint 2.1
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Dave2582 said:
http://geekfor.me/category/hero/kitchen/
Click on the link and download Fresh Kitchen.
You can create a nandroid, remove the bloatware, change the current lockscreen, create your own rom.
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Welcome to the world of root!
While what Dave provided is in no way bad or wouldn't help you accomplish what you want, I suggest looking up adb commands.
Check out the main wiki thread in my sig. It will have a thread called "How to Remove Stock Apps, etc."
Once you have looked a little there, post back and let us know if you can't find some information, and we'll gladly help you out.
I've got to agree with Riggs, while Kitchens are nice for people who know what they're doing, I'm a firm beleiver that people just starting out should use ADB as much as possible.

Link to Bare Bones ROM?

I did a search, but couldn't find it. Somone have made a 6.1 ROM that was completely barebones, it didn't even have SenseUI on it, it was completely clean. Does anyone have a link to it?
Also, I remeber it was for Sprint, would that work on a Verizon device as well?
Thanks
You're searching for a CDMA rom or a GSM one?
Verizon/Sprint, so that would be CDMA, right?
I would want the ROM to have all the phones functions working, but no SensuUI, no titanium, nothing, just completely stock (I want to run PointUI)
I terms of CDMA I'm absolutely no-expert, here in Europe we do not get it ;]
Just asked because it's important what kind of rom you're searching for. Anyway I think this is not the right forum so I think mods will move this thread.

[Q] Sprint hero root help!

I;ve Had my Hero for almost & it's running stock Sprint 2.1. i want to root it but i dont know what i really have to do. i know i have to drivers & SDKs, but which ones. CAN ANYONE JUST GIVE ME LINKS WITHIN THE FORUMS TO HELP ME.
Keep in mind this will be my first time. i mainly want to customize & add ROMs to my phone. THANK YOU in advance!
Look at the stickies in this very forum. Search is your friend.
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Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Gingerbread-on-Hero action here!
can you give me a specific link?
i found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717416&highlight=Root+Sprint+Hero
But my phone runs 2.32.651.2
Z4Root works from my experience, Also super one click root works. Make sure you install busybox and superuser app from the market otherwise you won't know if you're really rooted and it wont seem you are. After that go and get ROM Manager and flash CWM (you'll know what im talking about when you get there). From there you can snoop around the development forums and grab tons of stuff with step by step guides to tweak and modify your phone to perfection

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