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So I upgraded to the latest mr clean rom and did some tweaks with the registry Wizard. I was playing around with it for a while and turned it off to charge overnight. I wake up and try and turn it on and nothing. I've tried soft reset, and hard reset and it doesn't turn on or do anything. When I plug in my charger the light on my phone doesn't even come on. PLEASE HELP. WHAT CAN I DO!!!.
dew1989 said:
So I upgraded to the latest mr clean rom and did some tweaks with the registry Wizard. I was playing around with it for a while and turned it off to charge overnight. I wake up and try and turn it on and nothing. I've tried soft reset, and hard reset and it doesn't turn on or do anything. When I plug in my charger the light on my phone doesn't even come on. PLEASE HELP. WHAT CAN I DO!!!.
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It seems that you bricked you phone mate. I think that you installed MrClean rom in a G4 phone so you irrimediably f*cked up the bootloader (IPL and SPL). Many users have reported that their phones were able to boot (and behaved normally) immediatly after the flashing but were dead after they turned them off for the first time, this is what happened to you.
Only thing you can try is going to bootloader mode (but i think it won't work since you messed the bootloader) and then flash a new rom. To do this, press and keep pressed both the keys on the right side and then insert a pin in the reset hole briefly. If the phone goes to the tri-colors screen then you're safe, if not continue reading.
If your warranty perior is not yet over then you can have a new phone for free (DON'T tell them that you flashed an experimental rom!!! Tell only that it went off suddenly or that you were installing an official rom!).
Service centre can repair your device (i suppose they've some method to reflash the bootloader) but i don't know how much they'll ask you.
Try asking other users on this forum. Sorry!
bye
...did you ry to recharge it with the ----ORIGINAL 1A CHARGER----? looks stupid, but i resuscitated mine just before throwing it in the bin. if it works, i will explain you the rest....
yup, I tried charging it with the home charger and still nothing. My battery reads at 3v and it's supposed to be 3.8 so it's not out of juice, but maybe it's just dead?
...you can try with just a normal 9 VDC battery, in order to boost up the voltage, to connect it for a few seconds to the ppc battery till you reach the 3.8 VDC and see if it's working...
Ok, i did that...and amazingly it turned on so I pluged it into the charger right away. Windows booted and about 20sec later the device turned off and won't charge again. So i tried again and the same thing happened. Do I need a new battery? TIA
dew1989 said:
Ok, i did that...and amazingly it turned on so I pluged it into the charger right away. Windows booted and about 20sec later the device turned off and won't charge again. So i tried again and the same thing happened. Do I need a new battery? TIA
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This is waht you need:
http://www.thetravelinsider.info/phones/cellphonerecharger.htm
This charger is somehow wired weird... it charges the battery AND feeds juice to the phone at the same time (believe it or not, regular chargers and USB cables do not engage until the OS is loaded), allowing you to turn the phone on and in a few minutes plug it into the regular charger to continue charging. Just make sure you get the RAZR tip.
It has saved my ass more than once.
I fixed it , What I did was zap the battery with a 9v battery in 3 sec intervals, I did this about 5 times, then I pluged my phone into the charger and turned it on, the 9v gave it enough juice to boot up and the usb took over from there. So to everyone out there who is having this same problem, try this but don't over zap, check your battery with a multimeter.
im having the same problem----my MDA went dead last night because i forgot to charge the battery and then i went to plug it in the charger but the phone doesnt turn on no more...the light doesnt turn on like if it would be charging and i left it overnight and it still doesnt work..... do yall think that its the battery or is the phone just messed up and cant use it nomore????
Last time I had my battery completely drained, it wouldn't charge from laptop via USB. I read something about how the device's "smart-charging" function itself needs a bit of power to start-up...
but anyways, I couldn't charge the battery through the phone (software charging) - what I had to do was to take a USB cable, cut out one end, identify the +/- (red/black) wires, and charge them directly to the battery's two poles (metal plates). It took about 10-20 seconds of charging until I had enough power in the battery to place it back in the phone, start WM5 and charge it thru the phone.
It would have been much easier if you have a battery charger.
I had my phone connected to the computer through the usb cable, and I just left it connected for a week and it was completely dead and could not be turned on. I don't know how it drained the battery (probally by leaving the wifi on, but the computer was in use all the time). Anyway, thanks to this thread, I used the ac charger and it turned on.
Keywords: t-mobile tmobile mda phone won't don't turn on
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I'm going to give this a go; a Crossbow ROM flash went horribly wrong last night and in my attempts to repair it (I also must have flashed at least 9 times) the phone went dead. It won't charge either, but battery voltage is 3.7 volts, and I'm sat here wishing it was 3
Will get back to you all!
To update: no... it didn't work! I hooked the battery up to a computer power supply (nearest thing to hand) on 5v and 12v and the voltage increased to about 3.81V... I guess the battery is not the problem with my phone, though the symptoms were the same :-(
Any buttons I can press (i.e. like the voice command button for bootloader) to wake the damned thing up? It's probably fried.
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CrArc said:
To update: no... it didn't work! I hooked the battery up to a computer power supply (nearest thing to hand) on 5v and 12v and the voltage increased to about 3.81V... I guess the battery is not the problem with my phone, though the symptoms were the same :-(
Any buttons I can press (i.e. like the voice command button for bootloader) to wake the damned thing up? It's probably fried.
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My phone has a hardware problem with the on / off button (doesn´t work at all), at the beggining I thought it was a software problem and I tried all sort of tricks, then I gave up and recognized that was a hardware issue and I found 2 ways to turn the phone on 1) When is totally off (This happens when I have to remove the battery to change SIM card) I connect to the USB cable to my PC or to the car or wall charger and I make a soft reset. 2) When I see the phone signal led blinking I remove the memory card and wakes the phone up (not a good idea since I know that the card is going to get damaged sooner or later).
I just got a G3 wizard from a friend a couple days ago. On Thursday I upgraded it to XDA Mobile 6 and left it on the 2.25.11 (I think) T-Mobile Radio that the T-Mobile 2.26 firmware flash put on it. I used it all day on Friday and then I held the power button and shut the phone completely off for 25 hours, but left it plugged in to a usb to 110V AC adapter that came with my Dell Axim X50V. On Saturday night I went to turn it on and it would not come on no matter what I tried. I found this thread and checked the voltage on the battery directly with a multimeter, 3.13V. I cut the head off a usb cable and then held the black and red wires to the positive and negative terminals on the battery for 2 minutes with the head plugged into a front USB port on my PC. The multimeter then read 3.7V. I put it back into the MDA and it turned on, booted and informed me that the battery was completely drained. I plugged it into the USB to AC charger and it read 10% battery on BatteryStatus. I have left it to charge and it is currently at 60%.
I guess the lesson here is to not totally shut the phone off and let it sit, or the battery won't charge, even plugged into my charger. I guess the OS needs to be running in suspend mode for the charging circuit to run. I know I won't turn it all the way off ever again unless I have my little plug thing and my laptop with me.
(old) Nokia phones have a state called "Acting dead" (from service manuals) which takes place when phone is turned off and battery inserted. It means that the energy is flowing around the board so that the responsible hardware keeps waiting for a 'HIGH' signal ordering to turn ON the phone.
When batteries go bellow the 2.x volts they stop being charged by the phones. This is why i protect the battery terminals with tape when the phone is stored for some time and the reason why a lot of people thinks the phones are broken when not used for months. I usually use the 'freezer trick' where i leave the batteries inside the freezer all night and charge them next day.
just 2 cents...
My Wizard XDA got discharged over the weekend and wouldn't start up - after 12 hours on USB it still wouldn't start.
The charge tips saved my bacon - I modified a USB cable as per the instructions above, and used it to charge up the XDA battery - it only needed five seconds and the phone now boots!
Thanks All, great information!
My 2 cents...
If you're going to try the same, connect red usb to the +ve terminal of your battery and black USB to the -ve terminal of the battery. I'd suggest having a voltmeter to hand to check battery and supply voltage.
Disclaimer - the ablve worked for me, but I'm not responsible for anyone damaging themselves, their PC,their phone or anything else by using the above info!
BUMP! thought my phone was dead, hacked a USB cable and i'm back in business!!!!
TYTN II won't turn on
i left it plugged in all day and when i tried to turn it on it didn't respond. i have a second battery that was fully charged and that didn't work either. i tried a hard reset with it unplugged and with it plugged into the charger. nothing works. i'm on the standard at&t rom with lots of programs. i got it unlocked so i can't go to at&t.
To anyone who bricked their G4..Is there still a sign of life like an amber or redlight when you connect it to the wall adapter? Thanks
try this separately:
1. plug in USB cable with PC on other side and wait 20 sec
2. soft reset
3. hard reset
4. bootloader mode
5. plug in usb or wall charger, leave it for 3-4 hours then try all over again.
and dont mention led lights, they may not be on.
Thanks for the info..I don't have a bricked G4 but just wondering if a bricked G4 would charge the battery...
no, it cant charge
I see, thanks Johnny, I kinda find that weird coz I though it only breaks the bootloader..
I seem to remember reading that the battery charging state doesn't initialize until after the OS is loaded. Which is why it is such a pain when due to accident or otherwise your battery is totally discharged and you can't boot your phone. I have had to use the 9v trick to revive mine and I also have a second battery that I rotate out occasionally to make sure I always have at least a partially charged backup.
but doesn't it charge when you connect the charger to the phone and the phone is off (without loading the OS)?
flashed charmer with wizard...an now its totally dead...cant enter boot....anyone can help...
dead - can you describe it better? is it freezing in the splashscreen? or not powering on completely? have you tried to charge it using normal charger, not usb sync cable?
what about bootloader, dead too? try to hold camera button and press reset. if three color bars appears, you have a reason to stay calm.
nocturne.op.15 said:
dead - can you describe it better? is it freezing in the splashscreen? or not powering on completely? have you tried to charge it using normal charger, not usb sync cable?
what about bootloader, dead too? try to hold camera button and press reset. if three color bars appears, you have a reason to stay calm.
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complitely dead...not powering...cant enter boot...
hmm, it looks bad. I don't have any valuable ideas...but:
maybe you may try to charge battery in another charmer. When I bought my one, directly after unpacking the box, it wasnť able to start. I was angry, but then ve have tried to charge the battery in my friend's charmer and it worked (the battery was not completely discharged, but maybe some electronics inside was somehow blocked)
otherwise, you can try to diagnose electric circuits inside - but do it carefully, you may easily damage it!
speaker charmer
it has production defect. the HTC has knowledge of this... and is about one reparation in warranty. [[]]
nocturne.op.15 said:
dead - can you describe it better? is it freezing in the splashscreen? or not powering on completely? have you tried to charge it using normal charger, not usb sync cable?
what about bootloader, dead too? try to hold camera button and press reset. if three color bars appears, you have a reason to stay calm.
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I have a problem with my mda compact II and it was almost like describe.
after i tried to upgrade my pda, the update went to the end and finished successfully, the pda doesn't turn on, it shows the t-mobile image and then goes off, if i press camera button and turn on button i can see the tree colors, but what should i do now?
help me please.
use official t-mobile rom (in t mobile official page, difficult to find, get the link from the XDA-Wiki).
1. put your charmer into the 3 colour screen mode
2. kill your activesync in your PC (or just disable USB link)
3. run the EXE of the offical ROM
Do it before your battery went dead.
hanmin said:
use official t-mobile rom (in t mobile official page, difficult to find, get the link from the XDA-Wiki).
1. put your charmer into the 3 colour screen mode
2. kill your activesync in your PC (or just disable USB link)
3. run the EXE of the offical ROM
Do it before your battery went dead.
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But my pda just shows for 3 seconds the 3 color screen, perhaps my batery went down..
i was trying to update from a t mobile update...
dammm
how can i try to put original again if i can him on?
regards
if i conect with the power cable i can go to the 3 color screen, but how can i put the original rom?
the mda must be syncronize with activesync? if i take off power cable e shut down, with the power cable on, if i try a normal start is allways restarting...
ideas?
After9 said:
if i conect with the power cable i can go to the 3 color screen, but how can i put the original rom?
the mda must be syncronize with activesync? if i take off power cable e shut down, with the power cable on, if i try a normal start is allways restarting...
ideas?
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try leaving it off with the battery in and plugged in for about an hour to see if you can get a charge, otherwise use another battery that is fully charged. Only other way is to use a SD backup which you can then install with the power cable plugged in.
also you do not need an activesync link to install ruu rom packages. also long as your in bootloader with usb showing in the corner, the ruu will be able to find it.
dave106 said:
try leaving it off with the battery in and plugged in for about an hour to see if you can get a charge, otherwise use another battery that is fully charged. Only other way is to use a SD backup which you can then install with the power cable plugged in.
also you do not need an activesync link to install ruu rom packages. also long as your in bootloader with usb showing in the corner, the ruu will be able to find it.
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i'm using another charge battery 100% but in the 3 color screen is allways rebooting, so i can connect the usb cable.
i just can see the 3 color stable with the power cable.
Can i connect directly to pins where battery connects?
can i install in bootloader from sd card?
well, now i can turn on the bootloader but when i'm trying to install the rom from t-mobile gives me some errors in the nk.nbf...
what should i do?
it stays on 1% and give me error 326 invalid command...
Help Please
nocturne.op.15 said:
dead - can you describe it better? is it freezing in the splashscreen? or not powering on completely? have you tried to charge it using normal charger, not usb sync cable?
what about bootloader, dead too? try to hold camera button and press reset. if three color bars appears, you have a reason to stay calm.
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I Have the problem whit de boot, is stay in tree color.
I have do the hard reset and the soft reset and donth work.
canth you help.
I have the cingular 8125
claroscuro: First of all, this is not 8125. Second of all, just flash an official rom while in bootloader mode.
RUU via SD card + only power cable plugged in
[. Only other way is to use a SD backup which you can then install with the power cable plugged in.
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i have similar problem how can u use SD RUU when power cable is attached and mda compact 2 is in 3 coloured bootable screen.
i have a fully cahrged batter but mda is not detecting battery, mda only start+ bootable mode when power cable is plugged in( battery is 100% charger in another MDA but MDA is not recognising battery.
PLZ help
You can buy an adapter for charmer in which you can insert USB cable, power cord and headphones jack.
can you please recommend what it is called as search for MDA COMPACT 2 USB cable, power cord and headphones jack on ebay doesnot come up with any thing.
Cheers
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MDA-Compact-I...6191840QQihZ018QQcategoryZ56166QQcmdZViewItem
do u mean this item, i am not sure from description if it can sync using a usb cable at the same time being charged by main power source.
Have the same problem
HI, I have the same problem, and even with the battery been on charge for a full day, as soon as a try the updates it comes back saying there is under 50% charge. When I try in the sync holder with power as soon as the USB is connected it powers off.
Did you find a answer to the problem ?
Cheers
TBW
this is nothing , my friend , MY BATTERY DOES NOT EVEN CHARGE AT ALL
IT IS NOTE DETECTED AT ALL.
i have tried fooling the device by using the cradle with power supply and usb connected with pc but it neither cahrges the device nor it is deted=cted by the pc.
went to charge phone and i know i am gonna get slammed but i am phreaking out the phone will not charge, did hard reset soft reset reinstalled rom etc...nothing helps please help me now its below 50% so cant flash back old firmware
tqg317 said:
went to charge phone and i know i am gonna get slammed but i am phreaking out the phone will not charge, did hard reset soft reset reinstalled rom etc...nothing helps please help me now its below 50% so cant flash back old firmware
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Have you tried to plug in a usb to your computer to see if it can pull off a charge? Might work...
Ron
mark43 said:
Have you tried to plug in a usb to your computer to see if it can pull off a charge? Might work...
Ron
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That will most likely NOT work. The USB charge off a PC is a trickle charger. First, if the battery is completely drained, take out the battery and plug it into the wall charger. Let it sit like that for about 15 mins. Then put the battery in and let it charge over night. If it still will not power on the device is probably bad.
Are you getting a red LED on the front? If so it could be the "red light of death" (RLOD). It is a known issues that has caused many kaisers\tilts to fail.
marm0lade said:
That will most likely NOT work. The USB charge off a PC is a trickle charger. First, if the battery is completely drained, take out the battery and plug it into the wall charger. Let it sit like that for about 15 mins. Then put the battery in and let it charge over night. If it still will not power on the device is probably bad.
Are you getting a red LED on the front? If so it could be the "red light of death" (RLOD). It is a known issues that has caused many kaisers\tilts to fail.
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actually it might work.....there has been cases where there's damage to the usb port and it wont charge with a wall charger, but fine when connected to a pc via usb cable (or it might be the other way round). the rlod is a different issue, this one seems to be more of a usb port issue. tqg317, take a look at your usb port and see if you can spot any damage.
Moving to the regular Kaiser Forum. Not an upgrading/development matter.
Mike
99% of the time a damaged USB port will affect USB to PC or automotive charging only. Take a look at your USB port, if it is curved or lowere on the right side then YOU placed the stylus poorly during a soft reset. You may be able to straighten it out using your stylus, but do it very carefully.
thanks for the move
i guess what i am wondering is if i get the right things to set it back to att and ezxchange it, it gets no charge large or anything, usb, ac, or car dc thanks for everyone help
ok
got all the things for reverting back to at&t i imigine i can use the origina att rom but what about the original att spl can it be ran off a microsd card?
Shortly: I flashed a new rom (not so new... Mameli 2.0 with WM6.1) and the upgrade process stuck on 99%, computer saying "All Done"
No so... trying to reboot the Wizard gets up the bootloader screen... no problem, will you say BUT... I was in a hurry so I leave the USB cable connected and go away for a few hours (I suppose the USB cable may keep powered the device but now I guess no... )
So, when I came back, the Wizard was turned off.
First try was soft resetting the device with no success: screen remains black.
Then I try to connect the power supply and nothing happened...
Then I pull off the battery and keep it off for a few seconds... I was googling with the device in this state when the bootloader screen pops up for not more then 15 seconds then blank again...
No way to enter bootloader mode or to hard reset the device...
I suppose the battery goes almost flat... and I've not a cradle... is there any way to charge the battery? or a way to build up a cradle-substitute?
May be the issue due to battery flat?
Thanks, Pino
Try plugging in to the original charger, not a USB cable, with the power off.
After about a minute you should see the orange LED turn on.
At least that has worked for me when my battery has been dead.
Nothing... It was already done... I suppose the charging doesn't happen if the OS didn't load... even if I read about some stating that if the charger supplies 1.0A the charge happens...
Now I'm trying to charge the battery with "alternatives" methods...
Thank you for your interest
and so?!?!?
So much lurking... noone writing?
Ideas welcome....
I've done something similar to this too, i.e., where battery gets so low that phone cannot start charging cycle.
Here is what I have done. Take note on the battery of the positive and negative terminals (clearly marked on battery). Use a regular 9V battery and some wire (or 9V connector) and connect the 9V to the phone battery (+ to + and - to -). Allow the phone battery to recharge some from the 9V. I suggest connecting for about 1 minute or so and then disconnecting again for 1 minute or so, and repeat this cycle a dozen times or (or more) using this 50% duty cycle charging. (not sure about charging current, nor heating of battery and don't want to overheat or damage the phone battery).
After giving the phone battery some (re)charging, then try plugging phone in to see if charging cycle comes on. (try first without trying to turn on the phone. If no response then try turning phone on while plugged in to USB). Generally makes no difference whether using USB plugged into computer, original charger or after market, ... phone does not, nor cannot discriminate between different 5V 'USB' sources.
If this doesn't work then the next step is to carefully touch the 9 V to the battery while in the phone and connected to USB (and to play this safe use charger, and not computer USB ... don't want to risk damage to computer). I would only try this if you feel extremely comfortable with electronics and voltages (albeit this is very low voltage) and as a last resort. KEEP IN MIND YOU WILL BE DOING THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK, and I don't want to be blamed for anything that may go wrong with the phone or otherwise by you trying this. This has worked for me on several occassions, but I am an engineer who has experimented with electronic ciruits off and on for 16 + years and so feel comfortable doing stuff like this. (again remember + to + and - to -, battery to battery).
Good Luck
First of all... Thanks for replying...
The problem isn't due to battery too much empty (it's a frequent issue, with mobile phones too...)
I suppose the Wizard needs be correctly initialized to start charging the battery and mine was in bootloader mode.
Sometimes I am able to power up the system for a little while and the bootloader screen appears but the battery doesn't charges so I cannot disconnect the power supply... this is why I suppose I'd get better times if I got a cradle.
Now I'm trying to arrange a flying connection between the battery and my kaiser's desktop charger to give the battery a bit of charge and verify my ipotesys (uh-oh... it's correctly spelled? sorry for my bad english....)
OK, wish me luck
stay tuned...
OK, no more bricked
The issue, as I supposed, was due to a flat battery!!!
I tried unsuccessfully to charge it back using the external charger for my Kaiser, probably the unsuccess was due to difficult to obtain a stable contact between charger pins and battery leads...
After that I remembered I had another battery. It wasn't used for a bit of months (I use the wizard just as backup, when the Kaiser is out of order) but luckily I stored it full charged so the battery was able to make my wizard power up (strange thing, I needed to keep the power button pressed as the device powers down as soon as I release the button!!!)
I tried to update the rom again but it failed at 99% so now I reverted to an old rom but the device is still alive...
Maybe I'll try again the update but not before having fully charged both batteries
See You and thanks to everyone tried to help...
Pino