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Piel Frama case is available NOW!

http://www.pielframa.com/cases_t-mobile_ameo.htm
http://www.pielframa.net/promo_ameo.asp
Just got an e-mail from Ruben at Piel Frama with all the info on the case. It's available and ready for purchase on their site now.
EDIT: Just e-mailed him asking if there is a belt clip option with this case. Awaiting his response.

ltxda said:
Just got an e-mail from Ruben at Piel Frama with all the info on the case. It's available and ready for purchase on their site now.
EDIT: Just e-mailed him asking if there is a belt clip option with this case. Awaiting his response.
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I need one with belt clip. Their site does not show the belt clip option I have the PDair one without clip at the moment.

victoradjei said:
I need one with belt clip. I have the PDair one without clip at the moment. Need feedback asap
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Waiting on good ole Ruben to respond.

Good News !!!

75€!!!...bad news indeed!

A belt clip isn't going to be available for the case. i emailed them last Wednesday with the same question and got a reply Thursday, and they stated a belt clip wont be available because the unit is to heavy, and they dont want to risk damage to the unit.

I think £51 for a decent leather case is not bad considering they are hand made, looking forwards to mine arriving as the T-Mobile supplied case with my Ameo has done more damage than any abuse I could throw at the device, the plastic body has taken a hammering from the retaining lugs of the case - should look good in Green
As for a belt clip, it could prove embarassing - lets face it with the weight of the unit you could end up with trousers around the ankles in a very short time - Mike

I'm just going to put a chain around it and hang it on my neck. LOL, yea right.
How do you guys work around the plastic cover for the screen on the case? In my experience, when I purchased other cases with screen covers, the device wasn't very usable as I use the screen tap all the time. I had to cut the plastic out. I may have to do it with this one as well.

What plastic cover for the screen? I see no cover.
I see a small bit of plastic covering the LEDs, and there's a cutout or window for the status display. The screen area looks uncovered to me.
Mine may be here sooner than I thought, then! Red for me, as it'll look excellent in photographs.

RichardKAthena said:
What plastic cover for the screen? I see no cover.
I see a small bit of plastic covering the LEDs, and there's a cutout or window for the status display. The screen area looks uncovered to me.
Mine may be here sooner than I thought, then! Red for me, as it'll look excellent in photographs.
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Yes on the screen. I hope they didn't put one on there. Just makes no sense to me to put a cover on a touch screen device.
When yours arrives, would you mind posting some info on the case? Your likes/dislikes? I'm going to order one but will wait till next week possibly.

Of course I will post info, but I was told 15 days, as with the original post. If I have it sooner, then expect pictures and a mini review, because that's what I do

RichardKAthena said:
Of course I will post info, but I was told 15 days, as with the original post. If I have it sooner, then expect pictures and a mini review, because that's what I do
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Sweet and thanks.
I wondering if they took our suggestions and implemented them into the design or if they came up with the case all on their own. I e-mailed Ruben a while back giving him a link to a post we started with things we would like to see of a case for this great device. One being the status window for when the phone is closed, etc.
I can't wait to read your mini-review.

just ordered mine. I ll let you know my thoughts and post pics as soon as it arrives

i think the window in the case (which you can see the date and time), will not work , because the keyboard needs to be closed on the screen self, and now the case is between the keyboard and the screen
Maybe i could be wrong but a short test show me that this wil not work.
Please let me know if i'm wrong on this.
cheers

tvrman said:
i think the window in the case (which you can see the date and time), will not work , because the keyboard needs to be closed on the screen self, and now the case is between the keyboard and the screen
Maybe i could be wrong but a short test show me that this wil not work.
Please let me know if i'm wrong on this.
cheers
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Just to clear up your confusion....
Turn your keyboard round so the CLEAR (Transparent, see-through, whatever you want to call it) plastic is over where the cut-out on the case would be. Et voila! You can now see the screen.

apphoen said:
Just to clear up your confusion....
Turn your keyboard round so the CLEAR (Transparent, see-through, whatever you want to call it) plastic is over where the cut-out on the case would be. Et voila! You can now see the screen.
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Yes but i mean, the funtion of this wil only work when the keyboard is flat tot the screen (then the screen wil turn over to the date and time function).
try it yourself without the case , and try to remove the keyboard slowely
then the screen turn out of the date and time mode.
sorry for my english i'm from the dutch.
i'll hope you see the point now, the case self suites oke with the window on it
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tvrman said:
Yes but i mean, the funtion of this wil only work when the keyboard is flat tot the screen (then the screen wil turn over to the date and time function).
try it yourself without the case , and try to remove the keyboard slowely
then the screen turn out of the date and time mode.
sorry for my english i'm from the dutch.
i'll hope you see the point now, the case self suites oke with the window on it
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Aha, I see what you mean. Yes, the cutout on this case is only useful for people like me who use the keyboard and carry it around with them.

mikealder said:
As for a belt clip, it could prove embarassing - lets face it with the weight of the unit you could end up with trousers around the ankles in a very short time - Mike
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How would having the unit on your belt instead of in your pocket change the fact that your pants don't fit and will end up around your ankles. The same amount of weight will be pulling your pants down either way. I sometimes carry much more weight on my belt than the x7500 and my pants don't fall down you just need to wear a belt.

Sniper2075 said:
How would having the unit on your belt instead of in your pocket change the fact that your pants don't fit and will end up around your ankles. The same amount of weight will be pulling your pants down either way. I sometimes carry much more weight on my belt than the x7500 and my pants don't fall down you just need to wear a belt.
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Either option is a non-starter for 'average' sized blokes. There's no way I could get the Athena in any of my trouser pockets.... and it would just look bloody silly attached to my belt.

apphoen said:
Aha, I see what you mean. Yes, the cutout on this case is only useful for people like me who use the keyboard and carry it around with them.
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Um, that's not what he means at all.
What he's saying is that the Athena needs to "detect" the keyboard is flat across the screen, rather than not properly aligned or not quite attached - so the leather panel on the case will mean the keyboard is likely to not be detected and therefore, the software will not change over to display the status bar.
It depends on the thickness of the leather, but a quick test with my PDair case certainly shows this to be true. Despite the keyboard "snapping" into place across the screen magentically, the Ameo doesn't sense that it is properly closed, and therefore doesn't switch the display over to the status bar.

the perfect case !!!

chekc this
http://www.bluetrade.eu/index.php?page=product&id=8720
i order it yerterday
i'll make some report as soon as possible
i order this one too (just to try to use x7500 without case)
http://www.caselogic.com/koskin_pda_slip_case/product_detail/index.cfm?modelid=57047
it seems to fit, i will see and i will report
regards

axle7517 said:
chekc this
http://www.bluetrade.eu/index.php?page=product&id=8720
i order it yerterday
i'll make some report as soon as possible
i order this one too (just to try to use x7500 without case)
http://www.caselogic.com/koskin_pda_slip_case/product_detail/index.cfm?modelid=57047
it seems to fit, i will see and i will report
regards
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Thanks for letting us all know.
My only concerns are that the http://www.bluetrade.eu/index.php?page=product&id=8720 case found here will do exactly as the free case does, scratch the inside of the screen, and also ensure that all the letters wear off as there is no protection from the keyboard.

the great diffence is that
you can see the external screen when closed
and !!!
there is a belt clip !!!

The one from Case Logic seems promising but I don't think it will fit:
X7500 dimensions (mm): 133,5 x 98 x 16 (or x 20 with keyboard on)
Case interior dimensions: 138,2 x 82,6 x 25,4
Please report when you receive it and post pictures if you can.
Regards,
S.

axle7517 said:
the great diffence is that
you can see the external screen when closed
and !!!
there is a belt clip !!!
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Let us know once you get the case with the belt clip. I want one like that.

This one will work, and has a velcro belt loop:
http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-HP-IPAQ-H63...ryZ15034QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I like the looks of the bluetrade.eu one. Cant wait for a mini review. How exactly will the x7500 fit on the belt for daily use.... Will it make you limp?
Looks to be about $49 USD for it after all shipping and paypal tax. The shipping to the US is more than the case costs
Looks to be about the same design as the Piel Frama and about half the price for people in the US. We will see what the quality is when someone gets one.

axle7517 said:
chekc this
http://www.bluetrade.eu/index.php?page=product&id=8720
i order it yerterday
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Thanks looks good indeed.. I did order one asw ell yesterday evening, let's see, they states it will take at least 10 days to deliver...

Hi,
I like the bluetrade one BUT ... I don't think the display will work proparly because the keyboard will a little bit separated from the Athena so the magnet will not recognized the keyboard is there (as it happens with the case it comes with the Athena). This is due to the smalls grips to hold the Athena.
4 weeks ago, I found this camera bag that fits to my Athena.
The brand name is TUCANO (www.tucano.it).
When I'm wearing a suit I use to carry the Athena in my jacket pocket without any kind of case.
But the rest of the time I use to carry a small backpack. For that reason, I was looking for a case which it could be complitely closed.
As I said, the one I'm using is from Tucano and is a camerga bad. There are several sizes. My one is 'Medium'.
I hope this would help anyone.
I will add some pictures so I'm sure you will have a better idea.
Best regards,
Alberto

axle7517 said:
chekc this
http://www.bluetrade.eu/index.php?page=product&id=8720
i order it yerterday
i'll make some report as soon as possible
i order this one too (just to try to use x7500 without case)
http://www.caselogic.com/koskin_pda_slip_case/product_detail/index.cfm?modelid=57047
it seems to fit, i will see and i will report
regards
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http://www.caselogic.com/koskin_pda_...?modelid=57047
i received it yesterday
... don't fit or nearly
X7500 gets in with dificulty but it gets
X7500 dimensions (mm): 133,5 x 98 x 16 (or x 20 with keyboard on)
Case interior dimensions: 138,2 x 82,6 x 25,4
there 's 1,5 cm left
so it's get in but it is too stretch and it is hard to get in and get then out
I'm trying to stretch it with something biger but after 24 hours still the same
it depends on the using of each one but for me for a constant use every day it s not usefull at hall
but if the "forced" stretch work i will tell you
for the bluetrade case still not received
i found this one too
http://www.hama.fr/portal/articleId*58649/action*2563#4
but no information about the interior size
if some one find tell us
regard

i found this one
http://www.krusell.se/productUni.php?productID=2527&category=50&x=10&y=12
i don't know if it good
i try to order

axle7517 said:
i found this one
http://www.krusell.se/productUni.php?productID=2527&category=50&x=10&y=12
i don't know if it good
i try to order
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I also saw this one today.
http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=759&t_mode=des
It's under the HTC X7500 category on their website so I'm hoping it fits. Aesthetically, it does not really tick any of my boxes but I've actually ordered one to try out until I get the case I really like.

can I suggest you dont carry your credit card in there as in the photo.
the magnets will do magical and mystical things.

CPA said:
can I suggest you dont carry your credit card in there as in the photo.
the magnets will do magical and mystical things.
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Thanks for the reminder, LOL!
No cards in there at all. Just the Ameo.

case
Ii think this is even better as it protects the screen edges from the keyboard!
http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10900000_11000093_11000094&products_id=5551

adamelphick said:
Ii think this is even better as it protects the screen edges from the keyboard!
http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10900000_11000093_11000094&products_id=5551
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It does look better but personally, I do need a belt-clip/attachment option for carrying it about.

belt clip
I says it comes with one!

you can also use the aircompact casing for a nintendo DS. it fits perfectly with side pockets and extra flap in the middle to protect your lcd and the keyboard from rubbing against each other

adamelphick said:
Ii think this is even better as it protects the screen edges from the keyboard!
http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10900000_11000093_11000094&products_id=5551
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And protects the keyboard from any attempt to type on it.
It's not a BAD case; some aspects are well thought out, but it has NO belt clip option, and the keyboard is covered with a plastic sheet that warps and isn't quite flexible enough - even when new, before it had warped so much the ZXC row of keys was utterly unusable, pressing E or R would often send a half-finished reply to an SMS as it activated the soft key as well.
After a month of ownership the plastic was so bad, I traced the edges of the keyboard and cut a section out, leaving only the top row of keys covered and an edge around to hold the keyboard down.

Oh, didnt realise it had a crappy plastic cover over the keyboard! I assumed it had a magnet on the back like the original case... damn.

Another Case...and it works.

Check out the below link.
http://navigonusa.com/products/accessories/premium_leather_case_4-3_display.html
I picked one of these up at Radio Shack yesterday, because I am tired of the original case. The Athena/Advantage fits perfectly with/without the keyboard. Without the keyboard it slides in and out very well. With the keyboard, like any new case it is a little snug, but after one day of use, it works wonderfully.
The front flap is magnetized and remains closed. The only true draw back is that there is no belt clip. This will be remedied today by going to the alteration shop and having them put a belt loop on it for me.
If anyone wants some pictures of it in with the Athena/Advantage in use let me know and I'll post. Time to get ready for work.

Just about right said:
Check out the below link.
http://navigonusa.com/products/accessories/premium_leather_case_4-3_display.html
I picked one of these up at Radio Shack yesterday, because I am tired of the original case. The Athena/Advantage fits perfectly with/without the keyboard. Without the keyboard it slides in and out very well. With the keyboard, like any new case it is a little snug, but after one day of use, it works wonderfully.
The front flap is magnetized and remains closed. The only true draw back is that there is no belt clip. This will be remedied today by going to the alteration shop and having them put a belt loop on it for me.
If anyone wants some pictures of it in with the Athena/Advantage in use let me know and I'll post. Time to get ready for work.
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Nice. Yes, please share with us photos showing with and without keyboard .
Thanks!

does it have a belt clip , i need a belt clip bad i hate carrying this in my pocket

Just About Right has mentioned that it does not have one and he's getting the alteration shop to put it in for him.

eaglesteve said:
Just About Right has mentioned that it does not have one and he's getting the alteration shop to put it in for him.
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I agree you need a belt clip and it as eaglesteve pointed out, it doesn't. I am having problems getting the photos I took with the device inside the case posted, but I'm not giving up yet. Darn sony memory cards won't fit into standard laptop sd/mmc/cf slots. Time to get an adapter.

Hey, Just about right
Can you post some picture of the Advantage in this case... Please .. share the love man..

jimmie said:
Hey, Just about right
Can you post some picture of the Advantage in this case... Please .. share the love man..
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Here they are and thank you for reminding me. I have been so busy I haven't been able to think. I am still looking to get a belt clip put on it, but the alteration shops are giving me a little trouble.
HAVING TROUBLE POSTING THE PICS. MY FTP CLIENT IS GIVING ME SOME ISSUES. LET ME KEEP WORKING IT AND I'LL GET THEM POSTED.

Just about right said:
Check out the below link.
http://navigonusa.com/products/accessories/premium_leather_case_4-3_display.html
I picked one of these up at Radio Shack yesterday, because I am tired of the original case. The Athena/Advantage fits perfectly with/without the keyboard. Without the keyboard it slides in and out very well. With the keyboard, like any new case it is a little snug, but after one day of use, it works wonderfully.
The front flap is magnetized and remains closed. The only true draw back is that there is no belt clip. This will be remedied today by going to the alteration shop and having them put a belt loop on it for me.
If anyone wants some pictures of it in with the Athena/Advantage in use let me know and I'll post. Time to get ready for work.
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Hi there !
Any news of your photos of your leather case ?
Pls post some for all Athenians to see , thanks and regards -
jimmunsw

Wind Screen holder/mount for your car

I bought the below car holder and mounted it in a superb place on my car. I'll get a pic of where I mounted it later, but it fits nicely there, holds the phone well and makes using my phone as sat nav a viable option. It also came with a car charger
Link
Best of all, it's £7 cheaper than other online stores for the same unit!
EDIT:
Photo as promised, taken with the phone, it's night and doesn't show well.
I'll try remember to take a better pic in day light with the phone in the mount.
EDIT 2:
More pics without the phone in the mount, the normal camera's battery was flat... and people moan about our batteries?

TheLegendaryJay said:
I bought the below car holder and mounted it in a superb place on my car. I'll get a pic of where I mounted it later, but it fits nicely there, holds the phone well and makes using my phone as sat nav a viable option. It also came with a car charger
Link
Best of all, it's £7 cheaper than other online stores for the same unit!
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I have the same one pretty good holder but mine didnt come with charger

I assume the holder is pretty secure, some of the generic ones seem to pop out over a bump or two.

Thanks for the post, I was looking at this one the other day!
Look forward to your pics...
mtrax said:
I assume the holder is pretty secure, some of the generic ones seem to pop out over a bump or two.
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+1
How strong is the suction? Would it withstand stiff suspension on bumpy roads?

c_man said:
Thanks for the post, I was looking at this one the other day!
Look forward to your pics...
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How strong is the suction? Would it withstand stiff suspension on bumpy roads?
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its really stable havent encountered a single problem yet

The phone stayed in place for a 4 hour drive yesterday, no shaking or rattling.
Only problem is, if you have a cover for the phone you need to take it out of the cover to go in the mount... then if you pass it to your passenger after removing from the mount to take a call and they drop it when getting out the car and put a few scratches on it you'll be pissed off!!! argghhhhh!!!

TheLegendaryJay said:
The phone stayed in place for a 4 hour drive yesterday, no shaking or rattling.
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Great to hear!
Thanks also for uploading some pics for us, much appreciated buddy

No probs I'm going to miss that bit of glass where it fits when I change cars lol

haha... count yourself lucky to have it in the first place
I take it the 'holding arm' is flexible enough to bend/swivel round in all directions?

The only thing it's lacking is to be able to swivel the phone, the arm only bends in 2 places and that's for both horizontal (as in my pics) or both vertical. However you can rotate the phone 90 degrees because the mount comes off the arm and you can slide it back on rotated 90 degrees which imo is fine for me.

TheLegendaryJay said:
The only thing it's lacking is to be able to swivel the phone, the arm only bends in 2 places and that's for both horizontal (as in my pics) or both vertical. However you can rotate the phone 90 degrees because the mount comes off the arm and you can slide it back on rotated 90 degrees which imo is fine for me.
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I have an almost identical mount for my Desire and if you pull the holder as you rotate it allows you to turn the phone. looking at getting this for the missus Legend too.

[Q] Car kit?

Has anyone found a good car kit holder for the Mozart? A couple of sites link to the Desire ones, but you can't see which ones cater for the power slot being on the side.
Any recommendations?

solo21hd2 said:
Has anyone found a good car kit holder for the Mozart? A couple of sites link to the Desire ones, but you can't see which ones cater for the power slot being on the side.
Any recommendations?
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DSL Developments - Brodit In-car holders for Mozart
The Brodit holders are about the best for HTC. You buy them in two parts. The active holder and then the bracket that fits your car.

More expensive than the phone without landscape capacity?

Indeed - the lack of landscape could be a killer...it has 'tilt and swivel', but I assume this is just on the x/y axis and not full 90 degree rotation?

The HAMA ref. 92429 (hama.de) suits really well to the HTC 7 Mozart, it appears to be designed for it.
Even though the 7 Mozart is just 1 or 2 mm too long, it's perfectly maintained in both portrait and landscape orientations as it seems as large as an Iphone 3GS. And this Gps car holder is pretty nice, i luv the ice design
PS : The product data sheet on Hama website is not up to date, the model I just got is more stylish and bit more round on sides
I assume that 40 € is expensive but as I needed a good holder, to me it's woth it.

Arno. Do you think the HAMA 'Ice' would allow for a Soft Gel Case Cover? Or is the fit already tight?

solo21hd2 said:
Indeed - the lack of landscape could be a killer...it has 'tilt and swivel', but I assume this is just on the x/y axis and not full 90 degree rotation?
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nope you can rotate 360 degree linear but not 3 d, simple term once phone is put in holder you can rotate to see landscape..

hellohacka said:
Arno. Do you think the HAMA 'Ice' would allow for a Soft Gel Case Cover? Or is the fit already tight?
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No, it's really sticky with the Mozart body ,so it won't fit to a Gel Case covered Mozart ans that's the reason why I don't use the one I just bought on Ebay
(the other reason is that it agglomerates dust)

idonxda said:
nope you can rotate 360 degree linear but not 3 d, simple term once phone is put in holder you can rotate to see landscape..
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Slightly confused by this - can you rotate the phone 90 degrees and have it sit permanently in landscape? If a sat-nav app comes out that's pretty much a requirement....

Or try one of these by Herbert Richter at Holders and Mounts. It does have full 360 degrees swivel.

gwinn said:
The Brodit holders are about the best for HTC. You buy them in two parts. The active holder and then the bracket that fits your car.
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I always wondered whether these plastic things without soft cushions would scratch the phone's body or not. They look somewhat resale-value-dropping.

I use the holder for Samsung Witu.

nice
vois said:
I use the holder for Samsung Witu.
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So do I... very nice!