I'm in the process of Developing the HSPL for the Imagio. The last one I did for myself was back on the PPC6700 so its been a while. I've never seen anything like this. I purchased the Imagio a few weeks ago and love it, when I read that it was exclusive to Verizon and a HSPL would be hard to come by I decided to start developing again. Cmonex will most definitely finish before me however I've decided to press on because I like a good challenge. I was using the raw dumps from this thread but decided to use my own phone just to make sure nothing is lost in transit. I'll keep you guys posted on my progress. If anyone has any advice on these processors or any other information, please feel free to post please.
cool cool!!
Nice, looking forward to it.
I believe Cmonex has been to busy to start working on it, so you may finish first
Much appreciated regardless of who finishes first.
Who finishes first has my donation!!! You should jump on this and try to get it done first! Good luck! I donated for the Touch Pro2, ** great job cmonex! ** Now this one (Imagio) is one bad a$$ phone, I even like it more than my TP2, it's just a beauty! Also, a SIM unlocker and Radio (if it's not unlocked already, not sure) would also be awesome! I can't get Verizon to give me my unlock code, I don't have service with them, I whodinied the phone...
m4f1050 said:
Who finishes first has my donation!!! You should jump on this and try to get it done first! Good luck! I donated for the Touch Pro2, ** great job cmonex! ** Now this one (Imagio) is one bad a$$ phone, I even like it more than my TP2, it's just a beauty! Also, a SIM unlocker and Radio (if it's not unlocked already, not sure) would also be awesome! I can't get Verizon to give me my unlock code, I don't have service with them, I whodinied the phone...
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iz down w/that, too...
Looking forward to this. I will probably buy my whitestone in a month or so...glad to see a thread on this!
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Looking forward to this. I will probably buy my whitestone in a month or so...glad to see a thread on this!
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WHY WAIT so long - you need to ENJOY the BUGS that are
built into the CURRENT Version
LOL! Well actually, I have both a TP2 (Sprint) and the Imagio (Verizon) and I have encountered numerous lockups on the TP2 and none on the Imagio!!!!! +1 for Imagio
Good news.
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WHY WAIT so long - you need to ENJOY the BUGS that are
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hehehe.. time to get busy!!
Yeah, I want this HSPL so bad too, I said I'd donate to whoever gets it done first!!! I already paid to get it SIM unlocked, now I want to CID unlock it. So we need the HSPL before we can continue. (Need to learn how to walk before we can run with this bad boy!)
just voicing my desire for this as well. Imagio modding!!
walkeryan isn't working on it any longer
Then he needs to delete the thread or close it and not waste our time!
He just wanted a response and he got one, he never had any plans to work on it on the first place, ***hole.
So is anyone working on one?
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WHY WAIT so long - you need to ENJOY the BUGS that are
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LOL...calm down...my contract with current provider is not up yet, hence the wait! Besides it costs money to get a new phone too!! (I am not going to say out loud that bugs have to be ironed out!!)LOL
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He just wanted a response and he got one, he never had any plans to work on it on the first place, ***hole.
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Dude! You need to hush! It is not an easy thing to create HSPL! Esp from the scratch, he already said, he will try, but cmonex might beat him. So give some respect, and be patient!
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[size=+2]Cheetah Hard-SPL and SIM Unlocker is now released![/size]
Ignore any images for Hermes please... this all works for your device; if you ask once whether it's going to work properly, I will find you and kill you...r dog.
YOU MUST HAVE .net framework 2.0 INSTALLED
to download, [size=+1]Click Here[/size]
If you are already SIM unlocked, then just run step 1, the other two are essentially optional for you.
[size=+1]Please report success or failure on this thread[/size]
SPL version displays 1.40.OliNex.
Current Features:
Code:
[b]CURRENT FEATURES[/b]
-SuperCID (no CID checks anyway)
-no Code Signing
-SPL protected
-IPL protected
-Password for commands not required
-Accepts any Password
-Run 'task 2a' via mtty to fix bad blocks
-Rtask also in SPL
-ModelID ignored
[b]Changelog[/b]
[b]Hard-SPL-1.40[/b]
-Initial Release
Hi Oli - thanks for pointing your skills at us Cheetah owners. Pof and I exchanged quite a bit of dialogue on this not too long ago, but he's been super busy focusing on Hermes work.
I'll volunteer - would you have some time on Friday evening? You're in the U.K. yes? If you shoot me a PM we can find a time that works well for both of us. Alternatively I can give whatever code and process you have a go and send you the results.
I've already got a cooked ROM set aside for testing once the whole signing thing is knocked out. =)
--Summiter
Olipro said:
OK, here's what I have, and what I need
last night, I was given the WM6 leaked NBH; good news for you chaps is that it contains an SPL.
second bit of good news is that I've patched it with no problems.
the bad news is that obviously I don't own a Cheetah, so I need someone who does to setup VNC on their computer so I can VNC in and try and get the SPL to run on their device.
the chances of bricking your device in the process of getting the SPL to soft-load is pretty much 0%.
so... any takers? please?
P.S: on further investigation, I'd also like to point out that if we can get Hard-SPL working on it, sim-unlocking (if necessary for some devices?) should then be achieveable
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I can't wait!
I'd really like a cooked rom for my 750.
Cooked Rom
I can smell it already.
yeah, but nobody's offered to help... still
How do I help?
Damn, thats good news. Can't wait to see the first customized rom.
But wat is the status so far, is there someone already working on it ?. If nessecary i'll share my connection to make this a success.
Sorry Oli - was offline until today due to squirrels. You know, the little brown critters that eat nuts and nibble on coax... That was my ISPs excuse anyway.
I sent you a PM with my MSN ID. I'm set up with terminal access into the bootloader and whatnot, and have a cooked ROM which I *think* I've built with the proper parts in all the correct places.
--Kevin
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yeah, but nobody's offered to help... still
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OK Guys; major breakthrough... even though the person who kindly was helping went offline.
if anyone would like to get in touch, having a Hard-SPL up and running on these devices is going to be no sweat.
I'd also like to mention that from there, it'll be plain sailing to SIM Unlocking too.
Cheers guys!
Olipro & Cmonex
Thanks
Thanks Olipro,
That pretty much wraps up the only downside about moving from the Vario II to the 750!
Now if only someone can figure out a way to program on on/off button that doesn't keep going back to the Today screen......
Yeah... but... need a tester.
it's harmless, I swear.
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Yeah... but... need a tester.
it's harmless, I swear.
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I'd happily be your guinea pig. My 750v is already unlocked though.
Ill do it, tell me what needs to be done.
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Yeah... but... need a tester.
it's harmless, I swear.
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What do you need done?
ok, SSPL works fine.
SIM unlocking next, watch this space
Olipro said:
ok, SSPL works fine.
SIM unlocking next, watch this space
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Wow, cool, cooked ROMs here we come...
alright, Hard-SPL also loads nicely.
just getting SIM unlocking sorted now.
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just getting SIM unlocking sorted now.
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Good work *****
Ill still help if needed...
me too.
whose gonna cook us some roms?
Got my kaiser/tytn2 today
So I am leaving herald community and venturing over to kaiser.
What do that mean for herald? Well, Im gonna finish my 3 latest projects. The rom for p4350 wwe, and the norwegian rom. And ofcourse I will finish the tutorial.
But thats not all I am gonna do, I am gonna upload the sys, oem and rom folders for both wing and p4350. And I am also gonna upload a section of oem packages, some I have made, but mostly stuff I have found all over the forum. I will make it easy and add the oem packages into the OEM kitchen folder. This means that when you choose to build your rom, you will get a list of whats inside the oem folder, and then you can check or uncheck w/e you want to include in your rom.
The files and folders are no longer limited to personal use, if you wanna share your rom, please do so. But the condition will be that all roms released using the kitchen files (oem, rom and sys) a note with credits to the one spending alot of hours building for you
Im not leaving completly, incase some few are gonna miss me Im gonna check in once in a while and help out, and follow some up on the tutorial.
I cant promise this will be done this weekend, but I can promise that it will be all finished sometime before next weekend. That include the tutorial.
Now Im gonna dump my norwegain kaiser, and see what can be done with it
cheers
We'll miss you... unless you buy me a Kaiser, and then I'll just be happy along with you. lol
Anyhoo, I think my kitchen is finally done, (I've yet to try out the last ROM I've made) and it's all thanks to your base ROM (Minus some tweaking...)
I'll also be using Hyperkitchen to make some more tweaked ROMs. Hopefully, I'll become the next itje... without a kaiser...
Congrats my friend and excellent that you received your kaiser. Is it the Kaiser 120 (with 3meg pixel camera and and video calling capabilities)? This is definitely a step up for you (and your phone, lol). This is a step I look forward to making in a month. Although you're going to be relocating to the Kaiser forum and your new home will be there, your frequent presence and guidance here will be missed for sure .. and I will go out on a limb to say that's on the behalf of everyone here, lol. I'm sure that forum will treasure your insight and expertise. I'm also happy to hear you're not just leaving us, you're still going to make guest appearances here, LOL, and remain a consultant (sort of speak) for us amateur and experienced rom cookers.
Remember, you can always come back HOME (here, lol), if thing don't work out over there, LOL.
As for me, I'm using your latest beta version now, but I think I'm going to downgrade and use version 2 for my herald instead due to it's stability, until you have the final versions posted. I'm struggling with the keyboard issue, lol. Itje, Thank you for everything. PS .. The kaiser forum will be my new home in a month anyway, lol. So look forward to picking your brain, lol.
Congrats on the new handset. I know Ive been eyeballing the kaiser for a while but I need T-Mobile to carry it so I can get the employee discount.
I think I can speak for the rest of the herald and wing users when I say that we appreciate all the work you've put into the wing and herald. And of course, I cant wait for the finished tutorial!
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Congrats my friend and excellent that you received your kaiser. Is it the Kaiser 120 (with 3meg pixel camera and and video calling capabilities)? This is definitely a step up for you (and your phone, lol). This is a step I look forward to making in a month. Although you're going to be relocating to the Kaiser forum and your new home will be there, your frequent presence and guidance here will be missed for sure .. and I will go out on a limb to say that's on the behalf of everyone here, lol. I'm sure that forum will treasure your insight and expertise. I'm also happy to hear you're not just leaving us, you're still going to make guest appearances here, LOL, and remain a consultant (sort of speak) for us amateur and experienced rom cookers.
Remember, you can always come back HOME (here, lol), if thing don't work out over there, LOL.
As for me, I'm using your latest beta version now, but I think I'm going to downgrade and use version 2 for my herald instead due to it's stability, until you have the final versions posted. I'm struggling with the keyboard issue, lol. Itje, Thank you for everything. PS .. The kaiser forum will be my new home in a month anyway, lol. So look forward to picking your brain, lol.
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yeah it has 3mpix and video..its full htc kaiser tytn2
itje said:
yeah it has 3mpix and video..its full htc kaiser tytn2
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nice one itje will miss you too when you are not often around here in the herald forums ....
but the best thing is that you will upload the oem packages, sys and oem folder and that you will finish the tutorial. THIS IS F****NG GREAT
You will be missed.
Have fun with your new phone, I'm not quite ready to upgrade. I think I am going to see what HTC has up its sleeve next. Thanks for everything.
ITJE, I heard the Kaiser is a piece of crap. I suggest you get rid of it and stay with the Herald.
Seriously, I really appreciate all the work that you've done and given me much inspiration on cooking my own ROM for the Wing. You were like my Faria from the MDA forum when I used to carry that around.
I hope you enjoy your shiny new toy.
Lets have a farewell party and get drunk!!! haha
Oh, I am going to buy the kaiser whenver T-mobile USA releases it...
Its way too rich for my blood! Wing will do for now.
i don't mean to be a butt, but (lol) didn't you say that if we recooked and released one of your roms, you would stop cooking for herald? So now, can we do so without your permission? Or would you like to set another policy.
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i don't mean to be a butt, but (lol) didn't you say that if we recooked and released one of your roms, you would stop cooking for herald? So now, can we do so without your permission? Or would you like to set another policy.
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Ah.. butt you are(s)...
Butt.....dont you know how to read my friend?
butt..maybe I cant write....lol
the policy is, do whatever you want, Butt....!! remember, never forget, always remember, dont let it slip away, hold on to IT..get IT?
and no butts this time
said the atheist "Oh lord have mercy"
point taken. Let the (proverbial) floodgates open
cool it
wow kaiser, its like a fresh pair of boobs haha. naw really though u are the epidimy of the godfather for the wing and herald. u will be missed.
( we must learn to walk on our own feet )tutorial and research!
itje said:
Got my kaiser/tytn2 today
So I am leaving herald community and venturing over to kaiser.
What do that mean for herald? Well, Im gonna finish my 3 latest projects. The rom for p4350 wwe, and the norwegian rom. And ofcourse I will finish the tutorial.
But thats not all I am gonna do, I am gonna upload the sys, oem and rom folders for both wing and p4350. And I am also gonna upload a section of oem packages, some I have made, but mostly stuff I have found all over the forum. I will make it easy and add the oem packages into the OEM kitchen folder. This means that when you choose to build your rom, you will get a list of whats inside the oem folder, and then you can check or uncheck w/e you want to include in your rom.
The files and folders are no longer limited to personal use, if you wanna share your rom, please do so. But the condition will be that all roms released using the kitchen files (oem, rom and sys) a note with credits to the one spending alot of hours building for you
Im not leaving completly, incase some few are gonna miss me Im gonna check in once in a while and help out, and follow some up on the tutorial.
I cant promise this will be done this weekend, but I can promise that it will be all finished sometime before next weekend. That include the tutorial.
Now Im gonna dump my norwegain kaiser, and see what can be done with it
cheers
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Nice that you are finishing the new Norwegian rom for the P4350 I just wanna thank you for all your hard work and i'm happy that there are people like tou oute there .. hehe..
We will all miss you
Reading this thread seems that Itje had bigger problems. Luckily his bigger problem by now is getting used to his new device.
Thank you for all your efforts and nice work. All of your "betatesters" come to this thread to say goodbye. That's quite nice. Maybe the forum masters should consider creating a hall-of-fame for all of those who made it worth visiting daily. You have my vote.
Good luck and, who knows, maybe be meet again at the kaiser's forum.
P.S. Again, I'll be connecting daily hoping to find your (last) releases...
so itje when do you think you will release all your stuff here? cant wait to grab it off and take your position in the herald forums maybe i will be the next rom cooker. until now i have read much hours instuctions to build an own rom and i had no problem using your excellent instruction you posted here .....
miss ya maybe i will catch up a kaiser to and follow you *smile*
Just wanted to say thanks to itje, if it wasnt for your ROMS i would have jumped ship to the Kaiser along time ago! I guess I was spoilt as a Wizard user with all the roms available, but it was nice to have at least one chef for the herald. Thanks again.
Thanks Man,
If you didn't help with the roms... a piec of this phone would have ended up in a tmo reps A$$..
Thanks again
enjoy the incresed power!
please do not resurrect month old threads. sorry if i sound like a butt (no reference to past posts intended, but it IS convenient)
I will miss you man.
Hi
All
according to ppcgeeks
here
Cmonex own words
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=1447673
oh happy day im very excited to start testing
She is great too.
I cant wait to clean all this VZW crap off my phone!! This thing will be amazing after we start making our own roms
knotbeerdan said:
I cant wait to clean all this VZW crap off my phone!! This thing will be amazing after we start making our own roms
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Yeah
Hope NRG makes roms for our Imagio
Conflipper over on PPCG will be making roms
All i need is a kitchen and to learn how to flash this one. I was making roms for the omnia before i got my imagio so at least i wont have to start from scratch
Update?
It has been a few days, just hoping that someone may have heard something through the grapevine
Besides the Imagio I don't know of any phone other than the Touch Pro2 (which is bulky and has keyboard = me no likey much) that's CDMA and to my liking... I wish the HD2 comes out CDMA/GSM (like Imagio & TP2!!!)
I'm happy with my Imagio with it's mods (from PPCG, but I think the link is here too for the mods...)
does anybody have any REAL updates on the hspl?its been like two weeks no updates.(not rushing just asking)
Havent heard anything but whenever i see this thread has a new post i get a little excited every time
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Havent heard anything but whenever i see this thread has a new post i get a little excited every time
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I'm actually getting bored !!!! LOL.. come on somebody please drop the HSPL on our poor Imagios
loving the imagio even w/o the unlock
this is a first for me: because my phone's so cool i'm not that concerned for an unlock. i've unlocked all of my other phones from right out of the box cuz i just hated the whole verizon village that they set up on their stuff but this imagio is just so awesome.. don't get me wrong, i can't wait for the unlock!!! but still, it's not a biggie for me like all of the others were.. u?
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this is a first for me: because my phone's so cool i'm not that concerned for an unlock. i've unlocked all of my other phones from right out of the box cuz i just hated the whole verizon village that they set up on their stuff but this imagio is just so awesome.. don't get me wrong, i can't wait for the unlock!!! but still, it's not a biggie for me like all of the others were.. u?
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Well Yeah to an extent yes... as this has wm6.5 loaded... but i'm in india and all the verizon bloatware is practically useless!!!! LOL... i want a Clean HTC rom or even better one from ENERGY...
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Well Yeah to an extent yes... as this has wm6.5 loaded... but i'm in india and all the verizon bloatware is practically useless!!!! LOL... i want a Clean HTC rom or even better one from ENERGY...
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mhmm, i hear u. it will be nice, indeed
just checking if any one had any good news?
nothing really new even over at ppc
I've PM'd back and forth with cmonex a couple of times now - she's definitely working on it. And she asked if I could help in testing,which I have agreed to do if she can walk me through it - I'm a noob when it comes to that. Other than flashing my Vogue a couple hundred times, I've got no programing experience (phone or otherwise).
I'll post any progress...
arl16, great news. Please keep us posted. Getting very bored with this phone and a little disappointed seeing every other phone out there getting updates while we still wait. If you want anyone else to help you out let me know.
Damn can't wait till we can unlock the beast inside this phone.......
Since the hardspl is right around the corner.I wonder will we be lucky enough to get an EnergyROM.These are the some good rom.He does a good thing on his roms.
Slow your roll playa. We need the HSPL before anyone will make ROMs for us.
i wouldn't say its right around the corner. lol.
it MAY be but you never know.
rhodiumW hspl was "right around the corner" for a month before it was released.
the only thing we have going for us is that the devices are so similar things may go smoother this time.
ohh lol im just trying to make it sound good.
also known as false hope
Oh ye of little faith! Comonex is on it. It's the holidays. She's been busy. But she just posted over at PPCGeeks: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=96852&page=4 Shouldn't be long!
If you want to encourage/thank her for work, she's got a PayPal link for Imagio Hard HSPL donations: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/websc...harset=UTF-8 (I sent her 20GBPs yesterday ($32))
rom upgrade
i want ougrade my imagio rom to the energy rom, but i have never done this and cant seem to find specific instructions for dummies like me, any help would be great
mikegrimes73 said:
i want ougrade my imagio rom to the energy rom, but i have never done this and cant seem to find specific instructions for dummies like me, any help would be great
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Visit PPC Geeks forum:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=121
*MOD EDIT* FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS USE OLD INSTRUCTIONS. Go check the sticky for another guide, as this method is not recommended!!!
Thanks to Getaphixx, the guy who dumped the phone, for testing this out for me! He has the worlds first rooted Atrix, CONGRATS! Thanks to Fixter for confirming on a retail model.
Thanks to briefmobile for putting together a tutorial for us!
http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-root
Tether without at&t tethering plan: (thanks to Fixter)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11493471&postcount=193
Images:
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This is a development thread, so please help keep this thread clean. Questions like "What is the advantage of root?", "What is an encrypted bootloader", "What is a locked bootloader", SHOULD NOT be asked in this thread. Use Google or go here. Any relevant useful information will be posted in the stickies in due time after the device is released. Thanks for your continued support of the devs but let's keep things tidy for everyone else.
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Woot! Oh boy I love to see root before the phone is even out. Makes my day!
Why did it take so long?
Motorola Atrix 4G Rooted [How-To] Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCDO0_qeOY8
*grin*
Thanks Designgears and youareme7 and others that assisted in this endeavor I wasn't made aware of.
It has been a refreshing experience dealing with XDA and their Devs. I only hope future contributers are lucky enough to encounter someone as genuine and intelligent as Designgears. This interwebz would be a better place for it. Look forward to getting more phones for some rooting fun with ya'll!
Also A VERY SPECIAL THANKS to those who've donated to me and others here. What may be a small token of your appreciation speaks volumes to the type of community members we have here! And receiving money is never a bad thing!
Well that was anti-climatic. lol
So what's next on your plate? Encrypted bootloader by Sunday? (I know it might not be encrypted, just making a point.)
No joke the NSA couldn't crack the boot loader.
Grats Hope further development will come! and no Problems will arise.
Getaphixx said:
*grin*
BOOYAH!!!
Thanks Designgears and youareme7!!!
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Ill be sending you and DesignGears a donation soon as i get my Atrix up here in Canada...$50 USD each sound good...you guys are awesome!!
Man it is nice to see that you're going to be active on the atrix DG, you made the captivate worth keeping as long as I have.
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Man it is nice to see that you're going to be active on the atrix DG, you made the captivate worth keeping as long as I have.
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seconded. cognition and then perception was the reason that my cappy did not hit a wall.
mjgunn said:
Man it is nice to see that you're going to be active on the atrix DG, you made the captivate worth keeping as long as I have.
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+1 Totally agree - had it not been for DG and some of the other devs, i would have surely abandoned my captivate within the first week i owned it!
As always, nicely done DG. +100 online respect points.
Fantastic! This was something I was hoping to see before I put the money down for my Atrix. Now let's see that boot loader folks! Fingers crossed.
phobos512 said:
Fantastic! This was something I was hoping to see before I put the money down for my Atrix. Now let's see that boot loader folks! Fingers crossed.
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Speaking of the bootloader, DG, will you and Getaphixx be able to put your heads together and find out if the bootloader is locked, or will you actually need to have one in hand to play with before you can check.
Does this mean Froyo built-in wireless tethering can be enabled? And junk apps can be removed? I don't have any experience with Moto so I am not sure if an unlocked boot loader is required for those.
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Does this mean Froyo built-in wireless tethering can be enabled? And junk apps can be removed? I don't have any experience with Moto so I am not sure if an unlocked boot loader is required for those.
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Yep! 10char
Im amazed that they have already got root for this! I really cant wait to see what gets cooked up for the Atrix in the coming weeks im super excited!
What method was used for root...rageagainsthecage?
I had faith presale... lol I knew this thing was going to have everyone on here's attention.
I will transfer funds to my paypal and go 50ea. as well. ROCK ON GUYS!
Can anyone quickly advise if it would be feasible (if the bootloader is locked) to build a distributed computing XDA app so all us non-chefs could help out in that way?
Make that 75ea. I'm so excited. lol. (bank trans takes 3-5 days so prob end of next week).
I'm confused as to why no one knows if the boot loader is locked or not if there's a rooted one in the wild? please be gentle I'm noob-ish, I've been installing custom roms for years but I read what I need to, in order to get that phone done how I want it then usually drop out again so I'm not very familiar with all the processes going on behind the curtain.