thats the problem, why i cant see paid apps ? i remember that when i got my G1 and flashed Cyanogen MOD about idk 3 or 4 months ago, i could see the paid apps :S but then between i didnt even bother if they were there or no, and that i didnt have wi fi or data service, i just forget of that but now i have wi fi and wanna see the paid apps too :S but why i cant ?
it has to do with the six six six in ur name .
now go purify your soul in the waters of lake minatonka
no but realy , maybe its cuz ur country does not support paid apps , maybe ur were accessing it after it wus enabled with market enabler and since 1.6 i think thats been a lil messed up
im from Argentina, maybe thats why xD but since Moto Droid es coming here, you guys think that Paid Apps will be enabled ?
Still no paid apps in most countries
i am in China and I have the same problem.
Only 7 or 9 countries have paid apps. Google says it's because of the local mobile operators not allowing it or not having signed up for it. At the very beginning they said it's because of export & tax regulations that are different in all countries, but that should be totally bogus, because why Amazon or Software companies can sell online everywhere, just not the almighty Google?
To be honest, I believe this is more of a "test the market" type of business strategy, because - as a matter of fact - G1 and Android, etc. have not reached such a large market share and thus running the distribution for paid apps in 160 countries does indeed have cost implications that may not be justified for Google yet.
that doesn't mean i like it this way.
What really nags me is that since I used Market Enabler, Google is obviously regularly locking my account (sometimes for up to 12 hours). It happens every time i "fake" a mobile signature with Market Enabler, and when I go back to "normal" - i just can't sign in, and in that moment I can also not download any apps, INCLUDING free apps
i have a strong feeling that google has build a mechanism that checks where the user appears to be (based on the values of the SIM signature) and where he appeared to be before... and the algorithm accordingly blocks access to google account for a period of time.
It should be easy to determine, because I happen to be registered with China Mobile in one instance, and with O2 in Germany just a minute later, and maybe a few moments later with T-Mobile in the USA......
This is however extremely annoying, and considering the 230 EUR that I paid for my G1 (including google software licenses (i.e. for market, etc.) it is simply a SLAP into my face as a consumer, NOT being able to use the phone as a GLOBAL DEVICE.
As much as I like the G1 now modded up with Cyanogenmod ROM etc. I cannot honestly recommend the phone to anybody until all functions are available to be used anywhere where I have a cell connection. My work makes me travel across the continents and although I can use my laptop and download software, music, videos and everything everywhere, not being able to do the same with the G1 feels a bit like middle-ages right as we approach 2010.
I am also sick that I cannot find any complaint Email address or even phone number on any of Googles websites (try to find one, and if you can, please let me know). Any question you ask is funnelled into a Google-run user-forum or a help page, and if you are lucky there is a Google-employed Administrator, but the statements they give you are simply the "official" Google messages. There is no help at all
The worst is that they apparently encouraged users to call their mobile operators in countries where paid apps are not available yet (to encourage the mobile operators to sign up for paid apps, so google says...), and some users have done it and the reply of the Mobile Operators was that they have to sign up for expensive 3G-data-plans, which then still didn't give them access to paid apps.
Some (or Google) might ask me:
So how did you get your G1 in China (where it is not legally sold), and why do you expect it to work in China?
Well, I am German and I bought my G1 in Germany - but my work brought me to China and I do not want to leave my 230 EUR phone back home JUST BECAUSE GOOGLE DOESN'T WANT ME TO USE IT THERE.
Regarding the market enabler, it works flawlessly on my 32A magic running CM 4.2.5.
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Regarding the market enabler, it works flawlessly on my 32A magic running CM 4.2.5.
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yes, my point was not that Market Enabler is not working. it is working perfectly as it should.
my point is that google prevents me to sign in to my account, causing problems for syncing, and downloading apps (free and paid).
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Mobile content creators who bought the developer version of the G1 to test out applications won't have access to all the apps in the Android Market, as Google has cut off access to paid apps.
The Android Dev Phone 1 is very similar to the T-Mobile G1, but it has a different design, and it's SIM-unlocked and hardware-unlocked. The $400 smartphone is aimed at developers who want an easy way to test applications on a physical device without having to sign up for a wireless service contract.
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I have a Developer phone (Free from Google as holiday bonus) and using the JF build I can see some Paid Apps. I can't see them all though....its kind of weird
Not only is the story inaccurate (its PROTECTED apps) it's been posted many times already.
The other threads have been talking about root phones, the article clearly states dev phones, not rooted. It also states paid apps (all of which are protected).
There are also protected free apps so pricing isn't the issue. All dev phones have root which is the main reason why adp's are blocked to begin with.
This has been discussed many times. Here is how it works:
1. Not all paid apps are protected. ADP firmware can only see NON-protected paid apps. This is because 'copy protection' is simply a folder that a normal user does not have permissions to enter. Thus, since all ADP1.1 phones have root, they can easily enter and copy the apps to simcard. Basically, they screwed that up pretty well, and really did not think it through all too well.
2. ADP users do not yet have an official ADP1.1 firmware update anyways, so they can not see paid apps anyways on the current image (old market)
3. Google is not blocking rooted phones (as rooted RC33 users can see all apps), they are only blocking the ADP1.1 users (IE ADP1.1 Holiday, which was meant as an update for internal google employees with the phone, not devs).
So there it is, not hard AT all. It does suck though, and if you really think about it, google is basically calling all of its employees thieves
I do think that this is probably the reason why there is no 'official' ADP1.1 dev phone images yet, even with the 1.1 SDK out. Google basically noted that their 'copy protection' is BS, and trying to fix that before the ADP1.1 official images are released, thus allowing devs access to all paid apps.
I'm rooted on RC33 and can't see all the apps :/
It's apparent some carriers are not supporting the Android Market.
For those that don't have access to the Market and want access to apps, have you tried getting SAM (app store) client for your G1 from SlideME.org?
http:/slideme.org/sam2.apk
Anyone in the world can use SAM to safely buy and download with no limitations and without entering any sensitive info such as credit card details from your phone.
The only thing is that you will not see as many apps as you would on the Market, but with users help & input one day developers will realize that stocking Android Market alone does not do any good for marketing their apps to the international communities. Not to mention that the rest of the world will be hesitant to provide even their shopping habits to google.
So, you could look for apps on SlideME or Cyrket that has all the apps on Market and contact the developer and ask them to get their act together to stock other stores such as SlideME.org for this exact reason. Not everyone has access to the Android Market!!!
Follow apps from http://twitter.com/slideme if you like.
Here is an earlier announcement from SlideME team: http://www.prweb.com/releases/android/slideme/prweb2035414.htm
I am in India. and i was missing buying the apps..but not anymore..There aren't as many apps as on the market but then its just the begining...
thank you.
do we get automatic upgrades etc from you like the market provides- i looked at using slideme but wasnt sure how you would get the free upgrades for apps u have already paid for...i am in australia.
I haven't heard promising things about SlideMe's DRM solution, which appears to constantly contact the Slideme store when normal apps downloaded from Slideme are running, and not just the SlideMe market.
It looks good, and will probably be accepting Paypal. Nice alternative!
So what are developers to do? Well, recently I bashed on the SlideLOCK in a previous post… Though - the more I looked at it, this seems like the best option for developers to protect their applications. Though, hopefully google will remedy this solution and fast. Until then though, strike-one google market.
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The last time I used Slideme it never showed updated or new apps so I had no idea when to look. Has this since been changed?
yeah- i want to know as well if you get automatic updates for each program bought?
We do updates for any downloaded apps. Maybe you have tried an old version of SAM.
Hello,
I live in Poland and we still can't buy paid android apps, which really p*sses me off. Is there an alternative way to buy from the market? I don't want to use pirated software.
Pretty sure if you email the Dec of app you want they will work something out with you. Also try market enabler
robzonpl said:
Hello,
I live in Poland and we still can't buy paid android apps, which really p*sses me off. Is there an alternative way to buy from the market? I don't want to use pirated software.
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Root phone, install Market Enabler which will allow your phone to pretend that it is in a different market (ie one with paid apps available). Works great. I am in Canada, which does not have paid apps yet, and use it to buy apps. This was the main reason I rooted my phone.
I live in Norway and we don't have access to paid apps yet.
I did install Market Enabler, and got access, but when I'm buying, after I've input credicard information, nothing happens. The phone tries to connect and eventually I get an errormessage that a connection could not be etablished (or something in that effect)
I chose Market Enabler 3 (beta) as I'm using a Hero ROM. (Old version does not work), and I choose o2 (de) as provider.
Any tips?
tried using Slideme, it is an alternative market that works outside of the android market.
Thanks for the replies! I rooted my phone finally (using flashrec) and by the way updated to some hero ROM (myhero-1.1.1 to be exact) and used Market Enabler. Works really well so far, I haven't had time to try to actually purchase anything yet, but I can see paid apps now.
I love the HTC Sense look and feel, but I there are some bugs that weren't present in the vanilla magic (skippy music, worse jabber integration, etc).
It's amazing how easy it is to root and flash your phone these days, I remember last time I was thinking about it the howto scared the hell out of me. And I'm a developer (just a lazy one).
Just purchased my frist app on Android Market
There was one issue, maybe this will help someone: When I entered my credit card details on my phone it didn't work - there was some kind of server error. I had to go to google checkout using browser on my computer, enter my cc details and then I was able to buy apps off android market.
betelgeuse74 said:
I live in Norway and we don't have access to paid apps yet.
I did install Market Enabler, and got access, but when I'm buying, after I've input credicard information, nothing happens. The phone tries to connect and eventually I get an errormessage that a connection could not be etablished (or something in that effect)
Any tips?
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Try setting up your Google checkout account using a PC based browser. Once you do that you should only be shown the price and have to confirm to buy.
That worked for me.
bjtheone said:
Root phone, install Market Enabler which will allow your phone to pretend that it is in a different market (ie one with paid apps available). Works great. I am in Canada, which does not have paid apps yet, and use it to buy apps. This was the main reason I rooted my phone.
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i did this and it doesn't work in Sweden...
I already own an android phone and bought a bunch of applications. I just rooted and installed the market on my nook using the same email address that is on my phone. For some reason the market on my nook wont let me download my paid apps without buying them again. Does anyone know how to fix this?
I tried redoing it and I have the same problem. Does this happen to anyone else? Does everyone else have access to their paid apps without having to pay for them again?
I didn't have to rebuy my apps. But market has been updated since I installed them. Maybe a newer version of market changed something.
It really doesn't make any sense. Its definitely the same account. It has my credit card information filled out already. I even tried buying an app i bought previously, just to see if that would jog it. It didn't work. It charged me and i had to refund it. I really don't know what else to try.
Nope, all of mine show up as "Purchased". Every time this question comes up it's always usage of the same account, but you say that's already been checked..
Good luck.
Thanks. It has to be the same acount or else all of my redit card information wouldn't bebon there. All of my android market reciepts go to this accout also.
Try visiting this page https://market.android.com/account and see a list of your purchased apps.
Standalone web site should be more reliable, than an app, hacked in a stock firmware, which kinda doesn't support google apps.
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Try visiting this page https://market.android.com/account and see a list of your purchased apps.
Standalone web site should be more reliable, than an app, hacked in a stock firmware, which kinda doesn't support google apps.
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Now I'm more worried. The site you linked to doesn't have any record of my purchases either. My google checkout account under the same name, however, does have records of all of my purchases. Have any idea what i should do now?
did you paid the app with credit card or by carrier billing? Maybe it change something?
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did you paid the app with credit card or by carrier billing? Maybe it change something?
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I always pay with credit card.
Does google have some form of actual support other than the forum?
I have nookie froyo on her now. Same exact problem. This is bull**** and definitely on googles end. When are they going to get a customer support line? I've never seen another company that charges actually money like google does in the market without having a customer support line. I'm sure whatever is causing this will cause problems if I ever get another android phone in the future.
Having the same trouble here
What kind of android phone do you have? Is it using a custom rom? I'm thinking that the problem isn't with the nook at all. It's with our other devices not registering with the market properly.
It's as I suspected. I flashed my phone back to stock and I can't redownload any applications either. My whole market account got wiped somehow.
same issue here, totally different tablet BTW (samsung galaxy tab). Same thing - I wiped and flashed a ROM (ironically, same ROM!) and afterwards all my paid apps are being asked to repurchase when I hit install. Similarly in the web market it says I don't own any apps....
I am able ot restore my apps via titanium and hilariously all licence checks for programs that implement them e.g. titanium, worms etc. continue to work thank god but Goog better fix this sh-t real quick. I have >50 paid apps so this is really really bugging me out (plus now I'm afraid to do any more flashing/tweaking)
Do you have the backup, OP?
If so, just run it instead of redownload from Play
Sure you used the same google account?
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I will keep this post updated if working solutions are shared.
Native Solutions (with push notifications, location services, google login):
None so far.
Virtual Machine environments:
Lighthouse (Only working for C636 region, not C432 euro-edition)
OurPlay (Chinese-only interface, but uses system languge for installed apps)
DualSpace (loses ability to install apps/updates after a day)
VMOS (old android v7, with virtual root and Xposed)
VPhoneGaGa (old Android v7, with virtual root)
Since many threads have confusion about methods which only work for Chinese version, please help confirm GMS installation methods for the international version, so we can test properly. Because Google apps are what many of our coworkers, colleagues, and friends use we unfortunately can't just abandon them. Therefore, only solutions that work with login to Google services (not just GMS but actual Google authentication, like for Gmail, Google Voice, YouTube Music, Meet, Chat, Maps, Calendar, Photos, etc.) will be accepted.
Apparently MicroG only works for apps which don't need to use Google login, has anyone found a real solution? Is there any downside to install Chinese firmware onto the phone (will OTA updates still work)? https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...o-international-mate-40-pro-possible.4196699/
While we wait for the hackers and modders to work around Google's ban, let's…
Contact app developers about publishing to the Huawei AppGallery and share their replies
See how we can help figure out solutions
Share alternatives we are using to the Google(-dependent) services we have been locked in to (I will add best to this list)
Google Alternatives
Meet/Duo:
https://meet.jit.si/
Google Chat:
https://element.io/ (like Slack, MS Teams, Discord)
https://signal.org/ (like FB Messenger, WhatsApp)
Google Maps:
https://osmand.net/
Authenticator:
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.shadowice.flocke.andotp/
I think we will have to wait a while for a Way that works on the International Model, there's literally no working Way right now.
I got used to use Outlook for my Gmail Account, YouTube Vanced which is better then the Normal YouTube App and i do use Google Maps but i never logged in there so it's not a problem for me. But of course a working Way would be nice.
And afaik you can't just Flash the Chinese Rom so easily...
I'm still wondering why the International Version is so much more locked up Software wise then the Chinese one
Hi..
I have the international version and you are right, the Chinese method does not work with this model.
I have sped the last 7 days with this phone and almost tried all combinations of installations and nothing works.. Seems I can't get the App "G" (whatever its called) to work my the device and I don't want to downgrade the OS. I just can't believe that a giant like Huawei just gave up and didn't leave any backdoors for us to use the phone. in my opinion, Huawei mobile phone business is doomed. its unfortunate for a perfect phone to lack basic apps just because of Google and US gaining on the company.
Hopefully, things will change once TRUMP is pushed out of office soon.
Do you have guidance on the last version of Maps ??
I have it just on 10.49.3 version ...
Huawei is way far from being doomed, they are very successful in Asia where nobody is obsessed with Google. There is life without Google but it's not as comfortable as all western users are used to.
Actually I would blame Google for being so closed and not allowing proper app support without GMS and developers that rely so much on Google services like Firebase. How is it possible that a banking app is not able to function without GMS? Or Microsoft Teams still complaining that GMS is not available... Big part of the world is too dependent on a couple of US based companies...
Also even without Trump there is a very small chance that anything will change in regards to US ban and sanctions on Huawei.
App "G" is called LZPlay. Here is a good read what it actually does:
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I am quite comfortable without GMS and I still use some of the Google apps. WebApps are actually quite decent: Google Fotos, Google Drive etc.
Now when it comes to GMS implementation on Huawei. Not sure what will just waiting change, who do you think will change anything?
Only way to install GMS without Google approval would be to use MDM (mobile device management) app that functions similarly to LZPlay but is owned by a developer who is not hiding as it is a case with LZPlay. But I don't think that Huawei will now approve a signed build of any app that will try to use those APIs mentioned in the article.
In China they can do whatever they want with the FW but in rest of the world they comply with the ban. Also it seems that Google specifically needs to white-list device fingeprints. MicroG should in theory work with new Huawei phones even including log-in but it does not, exactly due to the missing white list.
RTFM, push app developers to work with HMS and educate yourself on what is really the problem. Alternatively just wait
chortya said:
Huawei is way far from being doomed, they are very successful in Asia where nobody is obsessed with Google. There is life without Google but it's not as comfortable as all western users are used to.
Actually I would blame Google for being so closed and not allowing proper app support without GMS and developers that rely so much on Google services like Firebase. How is it possible that a banking app is not able to function without GMS? Or Microsoft Teams still complaining that GMS is not available... Big part of the world is too dependent on a couple of US based companies...
Also even without Trump there is a very small chance that anything will change in regards to US ban and sanctions on Huawei.
App "G" is called LZPlay. Here is a good read what it actually does:
Medium – Where good ideas find you.
Medium is an open platform where readers find dynamic thinking, and where expert and undiscovered voices can share their writing on any topic.
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@topjohnwu/huaweis-undocumented-apis-a-backdoor-to-reinstall-google-services-c3a5dd71a7cd
I am quite comfortable without GMS and I still use some of the Google apps. WebApps are actually quite decent: Google Fotos, Google Drive etc.
Now when it comes to GMS implementation on Huawei. Not sure what will just waiting change, who do you think will change anything?
Only way to install GMS without Google approval would be to use MDM (mobile device management) app that functions similarly to LZPlay but is owned by a developer who is not hiding as it is a case with LZPlay. But I don't think that Huawei will now approve a signed build of any app that will try to use those APIs mentioned in the article.
In China they can do whatever they want with the FW but in rest of the world they comply with the ban. Also it seems that Google specifically needs to white-list device fingeprints. MicroG should in theory work with new Huawei phones even including log-in but it does not, exactly due to the missing white list.
RTFM, push app developers to work with HMS and educate yourself on what is really the problem. Alternatively just wait
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Totally disagree that in Asia nobody is obsessed with Google. China doesn't represent Asia. Most countries outside China is using GMS on daily basis. They use G Suite, Gmail in business, Especially during this pandemic time, Google Meet is one of the frequent used App for communication. Not to mention many travelling apps, banking apps are relied on GMS.
You may able to survive without GMS, but just like itchiness, it won't kill you, but it just annoys you all the time.
That is a good statement. But the situation is as it is and simple peasant users like we are will not be able to change it
Any updates on this?
torickray said:
Totally disagree that in Asia nobody is obsessed with Google. China doesn't represent Asia. Most countries outside China is using GMS on daily basis. They use G Suite, Gmail in business, Especially during this pandemic time, Google Meet is one of the frequent used App for communication. Not to mention many travelling apps, banking apps are relied on GMS.
You may able to survive without GMS, but just like itchiness, it won't kill you, but it just annoys you all the time.
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Still waiting.
Yesterday just purchased mate 40 pro international version in Singapore. I tried all the tutorial found online and cannot work. So now I have no choice but using VMOS.
daxter125 said:
I think we will have to wait a while for a Way that works on the International Model, there's literally no working Way right now.
I got used to use Outlook for my Gmail Account, YouTube Vanced which is better then the Normal YouTube App and i do use Google Maps but i never logged in there so it's not a problem for me. But of course a working Way would be nice.
And afaik you can't just Flash the Chinese Rom so easily...
I'm still wondering why the International Version is so much more locked up Software wise then the Chinese one
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yes same feeling
Waiting game
banmao said:
Yesterday just purchased mate 40 pro international version in Singapore. I tried all the tutorial found online and cannot work. So now I have no choice but using VMOS.
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Same here
kxra said:
I will keep this post updated if working solutions are shared.
Since many threads have confusion about methods which only work for Chinese version, please help confirm GMS installation methods for international users who need to login to Google services (not just GMS but actual google authentication, like for Play Store, Google Voice, YouTube Music, Meet, Maps, Calendar, etc.) so we can test properly.
MicroG only works for apps which don't need to use Google login apparently, has anyone found a real solution? Is there any downside to install Chinese firmware onto the phone (will OTA updates still work)? https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...o-international-mate-40-pro-possible.4196699/
While we wait for the hackers and modders to work around Google's ban, let's:
Contact app develpoers about supporting the Huawei AppGallery and share their replies
Share alternatives we are using to the Googele(-dependent) services we have been locked in to
See how we can help figure out solutions
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keep this up!
I've purchased Huawei Mate 40 Pro on yesterday, but seems like everyone is facing the same issue when installing GMS using Googlefier that lzplay show message in Chinese that it didn't support for this device. Maybe there's alternative way to reinstall the app again?
latif99 said:
Hi..
I have the international version and you are right, the Chinese method does not work with this model.
I have sped the last 7 days with this phone and almost tried all combinations of installations and nothing works.. Seems I can't get the App "G" (whatever its called) to work my the device and I don't want to downgrade the OS. I just can't believe that a giant like Huawei just gave up and didn't leave any backdoors for us to use the phone. in my opinion, Huawei mobile phone business is doomed. its unfortunate for a perfect phone to lack basic apps just because of Google and US gaining on the company.
Hopefully, things will change once TRUMP is pushed out of office soon.
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but I never see solution that people downgrade (Mate 40 Pro) and install GMS
All GMS installation methods used so far are based on EMUI 10. Mate40 pro has EMUI 11, so nothing will work for now.
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All GMS installation methods used so far are based on EMUI 10. Mate40 pro has EMUI 11, so nothing will work for now.
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It stil works on the Chinese version Mate40 Pro
I read in a video posted on youtube that a chinese app ourplay its like a chinese version of playstore installs gms for emui 11.
Tried installing the app the only problem is it you can only use the app with a china IP address so i couldnt fully verify if it works or not.
Anybody wanna try for mate 40 international phones?
Installer can be downloaded on their site ourplay.net