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Bypass Apps2sd?

any way to make a certain app bypass apps2sd, and install on the phone memory directly? I know some apps can be moved from /system/sd/app /system/app , but this doesn't work for everything.
advice?

alongenemylines said:
any way to make a certain app bypass apps2sd, and install on the phone memory directly? I know some apps can be moved from /system/sd/app /system/app , but this doesn't work for everything.
advice?
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As far as I know, you can just remove your ext partition and it should install apps internally.

grandomegabosses said:
As far as I know, you can just remove your ext partition and it should install apps internally.
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alright, here's a scenario then. What if those apps have updates? Will updates from the market install to the sd, or will they only overwrite themselves if the sd has been removed?

alongenemylines said:
alright, here's a scenario then. What if those apps have updates? Will updates from the market install to the sd, or will they only overwrite themselves if the sd has been removed?
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Meaning the apps on your ext partition? Wellllll, if you remove the partition completely, it'll remove the apps. So they won't update anywhere. haha
I suggest pulling the apps from your ext via adb, put them on your sd card fat32 partition, and install them manually through a file explorer.

grandomegabosses said:
Meaning the apps on your ext partition? Wellllll, if you remove the partition completely, it'll remove the apps. So they won't update anywhere. haha
I suggest pulling the apps from your ext via adb, put them on your sd card fat32 partition, and install them manually through a file explorer.
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ehh, nevermind. Looks like it's just going to be easiest to move the apps manually.

another way is to put the apps in the rom folder named "app_s" to folder "app" in the system......

[Q] how to view internal memory on windows?

I have a program on windows that can recover deleted pictures from any drive. I think I had some pictures on my internal memory that I want to try to recover. How can I mount the internal memory as a drive on windows? I am s-off and have clockwork mod.

It would be easier to backup 'User data ' , re flash the rom you lost data from and restore user data, than to recover some lost data from internal memory unless u have a pre existing backup IMO ...
EDIT: everything you download form the net, take pics from cam etc etc are stored on external memory... ie SD card ... just fyi

nayak.aj said:
It would be easier to backup 'User data ' , re flash the rom you lost data from and restore user data, than to recover some lost data from internal memory unless u have a pre existing backup IMO ...
EDIT: everything you download form the net, take pics from cam etc etc are stored on external memory... ie SD card ... just fyi
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not sure what you mean about user data. I had pics on a memory card I wanted to move to another memory card, so i saved it to internal memory card.

Ic .. okay .. could you specify how exactly u moved it to internal memory and the location ?

nayak.aj said:
Ic .. okay .. could you specify how exactly u moved it to internal memory and the location ?
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i used ez file explorer with root permission. I moved it to /data or /.data not sure. Then I deleted it thinking I had moved it back to another sd card.

still looking for an answer to this :/
I see that clockworkmod lets you mount usb storage and you can see it on the pc. it also lets you mount /data..but you can't see it on the PC. Anyone know how I can contact the clokworkmod developer? I want to ask him if its possible to add the functionality i want.

sdxda said:
still looking for an answer to this :/
I see that clockworkmod lets you mount usb storage and you can see it on the pc. it also lets you mount /data..but you can't see it on the PC. Anyone know how I can contact the clokworkmod developer? I want to ask him if its possible to add the functionality i want.
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Hi, if I understood you right, you can use MyphoneExplorer program to view the phone memory on Windows machine. Hope it helps you.

I guess My Phone Explorer can do the job for you.

Hello,
You can also try with Droid Explorer. It works for me.

[Q]How to remove built-in APPS in a ROM before installing?

Hope somebody can help me if possible...
I want to remove certain Apps that I don't want before I install certain ROM using CWM, because once installed I don't have a way to uninstall it.

ecyaj said:
Hope somebody can help me if possible...
I want to remove certain Apps that I don't want before I install certain ROM using CWM, because once installed I don't have a way to uninstall it.
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Just open ur custom rom zip and go to system/app just delete app that u dont want to install.....
u can delete them after flashing ur rom just install root explorer and there go to system/app delete app that u dont want simple!

Deleting from Root Explorer after installing ROM is a better way.
I don't know why, but opening the zip package and deleting apps, and re-zipping the ROM again may cause the ROM to stuck at ANDROID logo.
Maybe its ROM signing zip issue?

Thanks for the quick reply...
But will it free up internal memory if I deleted them using the Root Explorer?
The reason why I want to remove them before installing so that I can save more internal memory on my phone.

ecyaj said:
Thanks for the quick reply...
But will it free up internal memory if I deleted them using the Root Explorer?
The reason why I want to remove them before installing so that I can save more internal memory on my phone.
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Yes, because System apps are installed in Phone's internal memory.
Anyways don't delete apps which you're not sure about its behaviour. It may cause constant FC's and ROM will not be usable.

Use system app remover after installing the rom
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coolsandie said:
Yes, because System apps are installed in Phone's internal memory.
Anyways don't delete apps which you're not sure about its behaviour. It may cause constant FC's and ROM will not be usable.
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system apps are not installed in the internal memory they installed in /system partition and use the space of /system partition
deleting apk with root explorer will not uninstall the app completely the data of system app will remain in the /data partition and will consume space use system app remover to remove apps

just open it with winrar/7zip.. go to system - app - delete the apks you won't to install...

dhlalit11 said:
system apps are not installed in the internal memory they installed in /system partition and use the space of /system partition
deleting apk with root explorer will not uninstall the app completely the data of system app will remain in the /data partition and will consume space use system app remover to remove apps
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Ok, I agree its /system partition.
But where do you think, the /system partition is ? I mean located.
Its in Phone memory right (talking about internal memory in general way)

coolsandie said:
Ok, I agree its /system partition.
But where do you think, the /system partition is ? I mean located.
Its in Phone memory right (talking about internal memory in general way)
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sorry man but you are wrong again system is a different partition like sdcard and have its own memory and if you are talking about general way then it will give wrong info to others

dhlalit11 said:
sorry man but you are wrong again system is a different partition like sdcard and have its own memory and if you are talking about general way then it will give wrong info to others
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Then what should I understand from this :-
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...plained-boot-system-recovery-data-cache-misc/
And you're telling /system is not in internal memory.

coolsandie said:
Then what should I understand from this :-
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...plained-boot-system-recovery-data-cache-misc/
And you're telling /system is not in internal memory.
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nternal memory partitions on Android phones and tablets. Theseare:/boot
/system
/recovery
/data
/cache
/misc
these are the internal memory partitions and all are different partitions with different capacity not partition in internal memory
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coolsandie said:
Then what should I understand from this :-
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...plained-boot-system-recovery-data-cache-misc/
And you're telling /system is not in internal memory.
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nternal memory partitions on Android phones and tablets. Theseare:/boot
/system
/recovery
/data
/cache
/misc
these are the internal memory partitions and all are different partitions with different capacity not partition in internal memory they are stated as internal partition because they have their own built ij memory

dhlalit11 said:
these are the internal memory partitions and all are different partitions with different capacity not partition in internal memory they are stated as internal partition because they have their own built ij memory
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I agree, I agree, I agree and I agree all are different partitions with different capacity. But do you have any idea what I meant ?
I just simply meant its located in Phone's memory ie, internal. That's it.
I have made bold your reply, because that was only I needed.
And I guess, you're making me believe its not located in internal memory which we install apps on Phone. If yes, sorry for making my query ambiguous.

Solved! How to swap the internal sd storage with the external one

Hello everybody.
I'm searching for a way to swap between the internal sd storage and the external one on my Galaxy S3 Mini because the internal storage is not enough big to install games and other big apps. I've seen there is a way for the S3, but I don't know if it's possible for the Mini too...
So, please, if anyone can help me...
EDIT: I've found a way to do that, and it only needs to have a Galaxy S3 Mini i8190 rooted.
Okay let's go.
I took the method from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886091
But it's not exactly the same on the Mini.
The following quote is the instructions taken from the thread with the improvements ( in red ) for the i8190.
NB: I can't answer to questions since I'm not expert at all, I got it working so I give you the solution, that's all I can do.
1. First, I'd recommend making a Nandroid backup of your phone.
2. Next, just to be extra safe, I would backup your internal SD card to your PC. While you are doing that, if you have data on the external SD card, back that up too.
3. Next, I would format your external SD card to fat 32. (You could probably use Ext format too, but I didn’t test that.)If you already have it in that format, and have content on it, this won't affect the content, but back it up just to be safe. It’s probably better to have the Ext SD blank to begin with, you can always copy back its content from your pc.
4. Next copy the contents of the internal SD to the External SD card. This is to avoid confusion about apps and such.
5. Next install script manager free from the play store:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...anager&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
It will show up on your phone as S manager ads.
You MUST install BusyBox too!! https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=stericson.busybox
6. Download the mod from here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6305/SD Card Hack SG3/11extsd2internalsd
( save as ) And put it into the /data directory of your phone
7. You must edit this script for it to work on Mini. Change /mnt/sdcard to /storage/sdcard0 and /mnt/extSdCard to /storage/extSdCard
(This vary depending of your phone, so check where is located internal storage, it was /storage/sdcard0 for me, and the external SD, it was /storage/extSdCard for me.)
8. Open the script manager app, and select Browse as Root in the config screen. Tell it to remember this setting.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6305/SD Card Hack SG3/Script manager browse as root and save.png
9. Using Script Manager, navigate to that file in the /data directory. Press and hold the file name until the menu pops up, and click on properties.
(Unix geeks set them to 777, and everyone else copy the picture below. Click OK.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6305/SD Card Hack SG3/Permission settings 777.png
10. Click on the scipt now.. Click on the “Is script” button.
11. Now tap on the buttons that say Su, Boot, and Save. The file name will come up in yellow after the save.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6305/SD Card Hack SG3/Script manager setting after save.png
12. Reboot your phone and you should see the swap working and be able to access both internal and external SD cards. The external card will show up as sdcard, and the internal card will show up as extSDCard. Your apps should now install to the external card, since your phone will think it's the internal card. Is that confusing? It was to me too!
Good luck and please share your experiences specifying which ROM you used, so that others can avoid frustration.
Thank you’s always appreciated.
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Try this it might solve you're solution. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
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No, sorry, I've already seen that but it's not a way to swap the internal with the external sd storage..

Jalubyc said:
Hello everybody.
I'm searching for a way to swap between the internal sd storage and the external one on my Galaxy S3 Mini because the internal storage is not enough big to install games and other big apps. I've seen there is a way for the S3, but I don't know if it's possible for the Mini too...
So, please, if anyone can help me...
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for big apps or games you need to put a additional "external" sdcard in your galaxy s3 mini..... for example i have installed the game "Need for Speed - Most Wanted" 1,8GB of the game is on my additinal "external" sdcard and the rest (40mb) are installed on device.....

enox.co said:
for big apps or games you need to put a additional "external" sdcard in your galaxy s3 mini..... for example i have installed the game "Need for Speed - Most Wanted" 1,8GB of the game is on my additinal "external" sdcard and the rest (40mb) are installed on device.....
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I've an external sdcard, I bought one of 32GB, but I can't use it as I wanted to because there is no way to install apps into the sd card. So I'm searching for a way to let know the phone that the external sd is the internal storage and that the internal storage is the external sd card.

I've found a way!

Well what is it then.
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kicker63 said:
Well what is it then.
Sent from my GT-I8190 using xda premium
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Please take a look at my first post. I edited it with the solution.

Hi Jalubyc
I've just tried your solution above and my phone is showing under storage
Device memory Total space 4.54GB
Available 378Mb
SD Card Total Space 29.71GB
Available 27.12GB
So it looks like my first attempt didn't work
Problems I found were firstly at step 6, I couldn't download the mod on phone. I was using chrome and there is no (save as) option. I can only save the link. On PC I saved the page as a text doc and edited the sdcard and extsdcard bits before saving the script. Where is the /data directory? Am I supposed to create a "data" folder in the root of my internal sdcard or copy to the data folder in the android folder? I put it in the android/data/ folder and it didn't work.
Once this is working is it safe to delete the contents of sdcard0 to get my 4.54gb back. I also take it any ROM updates would revert everything back

jazzzy786 said:
Problems I found were firstly at step 6, I couldn't download the mod on phone. I was using chrome and there is no (save as) option. I can only save the link. On PC I saved the page as a text doc and edited the sdcard and extsdcard bits before saving the script. Where is the /data directory? Am I supposed to create a "data" folder in the root of my internal sdcard or copy to the data folder in the android folder? I put it in the android/data/ folder and it didn't work.
Once this is working is it safe to delete the contents of sdcard0 to get my 4.54gb back. I also take it any ROM updates would revert everything back
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Oh no you're totally out of the solution. The /data directory is at root of the phone, so not in a sdcard. Use chrome from your PC to save as and put in into your sdcard before putting it into the /data directory with ES Explorer or another file explorer that's supporting root.
For the ROM updates I don't know because I've never tried.

I still cannot save the script using 'save as' as I don't have the option. I have 'save link as' which saves it as a text document. Edited it as stated.
I've found the data folder but ES explorer wouldn't allow me to copy my script to it and is showing the folder as blank.I got root browser lite from the play store which worked okay in allowing me to copy to the data folder. I used s manager lite to do its stuff and rebooted. No success - .
I'm using Android version 4.1.2/ Build number JZO54K.I8190DXALL3 .
Are you positive about the /storage/ change to the script as I remember when using directory bind it was /mnt/extSdCard/ and /sdcard/.
There is a /mnt/sdcard/ too which contains the same files as other location so possibly script can run unchanged. Getting a bit frustrated now as I have an old HTC Desire with over 300 apps (70+ games) with internal memory of 137Mb out of 148Mb and 10Gb free on sdcard out of 32gb
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Ok working now. Your script changes were correct. Device memory total space 29.71GB with 27.12GB free. Sd card total space 4.64gb with 800Mb free.
Now to get my full 4.64Gb back which folder contents do I delete? I think deleting the contents of extsdcard in my files. Thanks you've changed my phone from a very limited phone to something much better.

It is a bit strange way to solve free space problems.
I have 8GB version with 4.5GB free the box. When I installed all games and apps that I needed there was something about 800MB free.
My solution is simple:
1. install Directory Bind
2. Make link: mount="/sdcard/Android/", source="/storage/extSdCard/Android/" with "Transfer Files" option
3. Wait till the end of process (can take alot of time depends from your data)
4. Enjoy!
After this simple manipulations I got 3.6GB free in internal memory, installed 2 additional games (including Need for Speed Most Wanted with huge data) and it shows 3.4GB now.
You can make as much links as you want, of course. But moving "/sdcard/Android/" to external SD is enough

I tried directory bind and it just copied the contents of my internal sdcard to my external sdcard. It didn't move the contents as it was supposed to. I ended up with a copy of the files on both sdcards. If I tried to delete from my internal sdcard it also deleted the contents of my external sdcard. I couldn't for the life of me figure out what I had done wrong as I'd followed the instructions as far as I could tell. Now my phone is seeing a massive internal sd card and a 4Gb external sd card. I still can't get spiderman total mayhem to work though it throws up an error while downloading the game data

you should not bind root folders via directory bind. And it makes symlinks so it will looks like content does not deleted from internal SD but it shown from external SD already.

flashable zip
Hi!
Do you think that is possible to install the mod via a flashable zip?
Many thanks!

Yes it is possible. Take a look of the post for the galaxy s3, it is explained. But you must edit the script to make it working.

plvigo said:
Hi!
Do you think that is possible to install the mod via a flashable zip?
Many thanks!
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Not possible, we do not have a unlocked kernel, therefore we cannot load unsigned zips.

dolar4ik said:
you should not bind root folders via directory bind. And it makes symlinks so it will looks like content does not deleted from internal SD but it shown from external SD already.
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Sorry I don't understand what you've written. What do you mean do not use to bind root folders? What's a symlink?Are you saying the folders I'm seeing on sdcard0 are dummy folders and the contents have been moved to extsdcard? I've swapped my sdcards over using the script now so no longer using directory bind.

Jalubyc said:
You MUST install BusyBox too!! https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ricson.busybox
6. Download the mod from here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6305/SD C...tsd2internalsd
( save as ) And put it into the /data directory of your phone
7. You must edit this script for it to work on Mini. Change /mnt/sdcard to /storage/sdcard0 and /mnt/extSdCard to /storage/extSdCard
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i have two questions:
1: What do i have to do with this data:
#!/system/bin/sh
#extsd2internalsd is a modification that allows to switch internal sd to external sd and viceversa. With this you can use default internal sd only for app storage #and the external sd to store all apps resource and all others stuff. The resut is a very big increase of installable apps on gs3
#All credits to Mattiadj of xda forum for the idea and script and to mike1986 for the cmw zip.
#xda thread url at
#Script Modified for U.S. Galaxy S3s by Zedomax at GalaxyS3Root.com to be compatible when sdcard is not inserted.
busybox mount -o remount,rw /
busybox mount -t vfat -o umask=0000 /dev/block/vold/179:97 /mnt/sdcard
busybox mount -t exfat -o umask=0000 /dev/block/vold/179:97 /mnt/sdcard
if busybox mount | busybox grep vold/179:97; then
busybox mount -o bind /data/media /mnt/extSdCard
fi
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And 2: how do i edit what is on step 7?

jazzzy786 said:
Sorry I don't understand what you've written. What do you mean do not use to bind root folders? What's a symlink?Are you saying the folders I'm seeing on sdcard0 are dummy folders and the contents have been moved to extsdcard? I've swapped my sdcards over using the script now so no longer using directory bind.
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Symlink
symlink in human words is just a folder redirect.
For example, you have symlink that links folder "/storage/mydata/" to folder "/sdcard/mynewdata/"
When some application, system or user will try to get data from folder "/storage/mydata/", the data data from "/sdcard/mynewdata/" will be shown but folder path will be not changed.
You should not link root folders such as "/sdcard/", "/" ... coz it may prevent problems.

Sony Xperia ZR – Mount ExternalSD2InternalSD

Hi,
This is my first android device, so am pretty much a newbie for android.
Have created this mod to mount external SD card partition as internal partition.
I took pointers from a lot of threads on xda forums to get this working, so I feel bound to share it.
Note: Have only tested it with Android 4.1.
(I'm not responsible for any Damage to your phone. Use at your own risk.)
Note: This will likely result in data loss. Backup!
Required :
1. Root Access
2. init.d support click here
3. Root Browser click here
4. SManager click here
5. An sd card (duh!) (with class 10 SD cards preferable)
6. Some way to partition your SD Card (like MiniTool Partition Manager)
Install instructions:
1. Create two ‘fat32’ partitions on SD card(EDIT: PS: both partitions should be Primary). Your first partition will be mounted as normal extSd card, and your second partition will be mounted as internal SD Card for your apps. (I partitioned my 64GB(10^9 bytes) sd card with ~16 GB 1st partition and ~42 GB 2nd partition)
2. Copy and paste “mountSd” to etc/init.d folder. (If you don’t have such a folder, means you lack init.d support. click here and follow instructions to enable it) This script creates another mount point called ‘sdcard2’ and mounts current internal sd card there. It also tries to mount second partition to ‘sdcard0’ location, but seems to fail some times (as fat32 is not natively supported linux partition it seems, but could be wrong), so step 3 is required.
3. Copy ‘mountSdFailSafe.txt’ to your phone’s ‘/data’ folder. Now with ‘SManager’, register this file as script with ‘su’ and ‘boot’ selected. (click and hold script -> in context menu click ‘Open As..’ -> ‘Script/Executable’ -> Is Script = true, select ‘su’ and ‘boot’ buttons)
4. Restart.
This should do it. Once restarted, second partition will be shown as internal memory.
Note:
You will lose all app data and other app related customizations. You may be able to restore it by simply copy pasting ‘Android’ folder from ‘/storage/sdcard2’ to ‘/storage/sdcard0’. This has not been tested by me but should work theoretically (as I started with a blank phone, and so did not need to back up my app data). Or you could use Titanium Backup.
Some Issues that occur due to this mod:
I have been using this mod since the past 2 weeks, and the phone is quite stable with this mod.
The only issue I have faced is that when connected to PC (Windows 8) through USB, ‘My Computer’ keeps crashing unless and until you disconnect the phone. Otherwise it seems to be working fine. To circumvent this issue I have been using Samba to share files between PC and my phone.
Please share how it works out for you guys.
Other Notes:
I tried to get this working with ext4 partition, which has a +ves that it will not require step ‘3’ of install instructions and supports file sizes >4GB, but there are loads of permission issues happening, which I could not solve.
(Thought of setting “set GID” bit and then finding and adding all users to root group but failed. Also tried to set owner group ‘sdcard_rw’ without much success. May be someone who knows linux better may know how to solve this, Could not find much help on the forums as it seems others are facing a similar problem see more)
Thanks to:
For basic idea (PS: do not use the given method exactly as you will end up in a boot loop. For some reason, ‘sdcard1’ mount point has to be mounted by system only and can’t be mounted any other way, it seems.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2180733
Edit:
Simplified installation if you do not care for easy accessibility to your orig internal memory:
Use this video tutorial by ashwin123:
The only exceptions are that, you need to partition your card,
and you have to use the file 'mountSdFailSafe.txt' instead of the file in the package mentioned by him.

Nice
Waiting for someone to test it n confirm it successfully works
Still here
N!geR -> E!ch0

NisJ said:
Hi,
This is my first android device, so am pretty much a newbie for android.
Have created this mod to mount external SD card partition as internal partition.
I took pointers from a lot of threads on xda forums to get this working, so I feel bound to share it.
Note: Have only tested it with Android 4.1.
(I'm not responsible for any Damage to your phone. Use at your own risk.)
Note: This will likely result in data loss. Backup!
Required :
1. Root Access
2. init.d support click here
3. Root Browser click here
4. SManager click here
5. An sd card (duh!) (with class 10 SD cards preferable)
6. Some way to partition your SD Card (like MiniTool Partition Manager)
Install instructions:
1. Create two ‘fat32’ partitions on SD card. Your first partition will be mounted as normal extSd card, and your second partition will be mounted as internal SD Card for your apps. (I partitioned my 64GB(10^9 bytes) sd card with ~16 GB 1st partition and ~42 GB 2nd partition)
2. Copy and paste “mountSd” to etc/init.d folder. (If you don’t have such a folder, means you lack init.d support. click here and follow instructions to enable it) This script creates another mount point called ‘sdcard2’ and mounts current internal sd card there. It also tries to mount second partition to ‘sdcard0’ location, but seems to fail some times (as fat32 is not natively supported linux partition it seems, but could be wrong), so step 3 is required.
3. Copy ‘mountSdFailSafe.txt’ to your phone’s ‘/data’ folder. Now with ‘SManager’, register this file as script with ‘su’ and ‘boot’ selected. (click and hold script -> in context menu click ‘Open As..’ -> ‘Script/Executable’ -> Is Script = true, select ‘su’ and ‘boot’ buttons)
4. Restart.
This should do it. Once restarted, second partition will be shown as internal memory.
Note:
You will lose all app data and other app related customizations. You may be able to restore it by simply copy pasting ‘Android’ folder from ‘/storage/sdcard2’ to ‘/storage/sdcard0’. This has not been tested by me but should work theoretically (as I started with a blank phone, and so did not need to back up my app data). Or you could use Titanium Backup.
Some Issues that occur due to this mod:
I have been using this mod since the past 2 weeks, and the phone is quite stable with this mod.
The only issue I have faced is that when connected to PC (Windows 8) through USB, ‘My Computer’ keeps crashing unless and until you disconnect the phone. Otherwise it seems to be working fine. To circumvent this issue I have been using Samba to share files between PC and my phone.
Please share how it works out for you guys.
Other Notes:
I tried to get this working with ext4 partition, which has a +ves that it will not require step ‘3’ of install instructions and supports file sizes >4GB, but there are loads of permission issues happening, which I could not solve.
(Thought of setting “set GID” bit and then finding and adding all users to root group but failed. Also tried to set owner group ‘sdcard_rw’ without much success. May be someone who knows linux better may know how to solve this, Could not find much help on the forums as it seems others are facing a similar problem see more)
Thanks to:
For basic idea (PS: do not use the given method exactly as you will end up in a boot loop. For some reason, ‘sdcard1’ mount point has to be mounted by system only and can’t be mounted any other way, it seems.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2180733
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Am interested to try this but before I do, just wanted to check when you say data is lost, is it due to the lost of the original /data partition? Or just due to the sd card's partition?
What's the outcome when this is done, I mean do we have two data partitions one from the original phone's memory and another with the sdcard? And in the settings menu, will we get to choose to send apps over to sd? Thanks

grim_ripper said:
Am interested to try this but before I do, just wanted to check when you say data is lost, is it due to the lost of the original /data partition? Or just due to the sd card's partition?
What's the outcome when this is done, I mean do we have two data partitions one from the original phone's memory and another with the sdcard? And in the settings menu, will we get to choose to send apps over to sd? Thanks
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Your application data will be lost in a way, as orig internal sd card will be mounted to 'sdcard2' mount point(newly created). All your app data will be installed to your memory card's second partition, which is now the new internal sdcard. To access your orig data, you will have to go to it through a file manager, and apps or media scanner will not be able to access this memory any more.
The scripts provided will not format your internal memory.
Still apk files, dalvik cache etc, will still take up your original internal memory's space.
Partitioning your sd card will probably format it as well unless you take special precaution (ie. through shrink volume).
Hope it makes sense...?

NisJ said:
Your application data will be lost in a way, as orig internal sd card will be mounted to 'sdcard2' mount point(newly created). All your app data will be installed to your memory card's second partition, which is now the new internal sdcard. To access your orig data, you will have to go to it through a file manager, and apps or media scanner will not be able to access this memory any more.
The scripts provided will not format your internal memory.
Still apk files, dalvik cache etc, will still take up your original internal memory's space.
Partitioning your sd card will probably format it as well unless you take special precaution (ie. through shrink volume).
Hope it makes sense...?
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It makes sense, just am confused on how the system will still recognize the original storage when the sd card's storage is supposingly replacing it. Could you post a screen shot of your storage from settings?

grim_ripper said:
It makes sense, just am confused on how the system will still recognize the original storage when the sd card's storage is supposingly replacing it. Could you post a screen shot of your storage from settings?
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Here you go....
PS: third image shows that internal storage is still accessible, just not to apps. Only apk files, and other android files go there go there. sdcard2 in 4th image is newly created mount point for your orig internal storage, but is ignored by most of the apps...

NisJ said:
Here you go....
PS: third image shows that internal storage is still accessible, just not to apps. Only apk files, and other android files go there go there. sdcard2 in 4th image is newly created mount point for your orig internal storage, but is ignored by most of the apps...
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Can u do a tutorial video how to install this script bro?
Cuz the installation steps r bit complicated
Still here
N!geR -> E!ch0

NisJ said:
Here you go....
PS: third image shows that internal storage is still accessible, just not to apps. Only apk files, and other android files go there go there. sdcard2 in 4th image is newly created mount point for your orig internal storage, but is ignored by most of the apps...
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Phone keeps rebooting now, couldn't copy it to /etc/init.d
I think it has something to do with having data running in the background, now I don't know what to do with my phone
EDIT: Ok, manage to recover from the reboot state, had to deny root access to my file explorer. I think the reboot was caused when I set permission to write for /system. Anyway, everytime I keep trying to copy to /etc/init.d, I get a permission denied so am not sure what I should do now.

grim_ripper said:
Phone keeps rebooting now, couldn't copy it to /etc/init.d
I think it has something to do with having data running in the background, now I don't know what to do with my phone
EDIT: Ok, manage to recover from the reboot state, had to deny root access to my file explorer. I think the reboot was caused when I set permission to write for /system. Anyway, everytime I keep trying to copy to /etc/init.d, I get a permission denied so am not sure what I should do now.
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When ever you copy something to init.d it will reboot, or does it go into boot loop?
To check if it worked correctly, see if new mount point storage/sdcard2 was created..
EDIT: If it worked correctly, then you could move to next step.
else you could also skip it, and goto the next step of SManager, but in that case you will lose access to your original internal storage as it wont be mounted to sdcard2.

E!ch0 said:
Can u do a tutorial video how to install this script bro?
Cuz the installation steps r bit complicated
Still here
N!geR -> E!ch0
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Creating a video will take time at least til sat... prob more.
Will see if I can create a simplified install instructions once i reach home.

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When ever you copy something to init.d it will reboot, or does it go into boot loop?
To check if it worked correctly, see if new mount point storage/sdcard2 was created..
EDIT: If it worked correctly, then you could move to next step.
else you could also skip it, and goto the next step of SManager, but in that case you will lose access to your original internal storage as it wont be mounted to sdcard2.
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What happens is that everytime I try to mount /system as writable, it reboots and hence I can't copy either files to their designated location
EDIT: Also, now everytime I reboot, there's a popup that says USB connectivity has stopped, and if I go under settings->storage, settings fc. I'm thinking this has something to do with two partitions on the sd card so I hope it all goes away when this works or I revert back to as it was.
EDIT 2: So I managed to get all the files to the appropriate place using terminal and managed to get the script to run at boot. Alas, the phone doesn't detect my sdcard at all now and still throws the USB connectivity error at boot. Once I removed the sdcard, everything works alright. Also, I figured the solution to the reboot (haven't tested it yet as I wanted to resolve my sdcard first):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317432
EDIT 3: Got the reboot solve, but the sdcard can't be read and I tried plugging it into my other phone, the first partition is only read. I can't get minitool to even find the 2nd partition. I am thinking I need to get a card reader to plug it into my laptop. Anyway, I went through your script and open the log file it used, says that there's an invalid argument for mount. Any idea?
Final Edit: Got it working! I had to re-partition my sdcard and made both partitions primary so maybe you might want to add that in OP as MiniTool by default selected the 2nd partition as logical

grim_ripper said:
What happens is that everytime I try to mount /system as writable, it reboots and hence I can't copy either files to their designated location
EDIT: Also, now everytime I reboot, there's a popup that says USB connectivity has stopped, and if I go under settings->storage, settings fc. I'm thinking this has something to do with two partitions on the sd card so I hope it all goes away when this works or I revert back to as it was.
EDIT 2: So I managed to get all the files to the appropriate place using terminal and managed to get the script to run at boot. Alas, the phone doesn't detect my sdcard at all now and still throws the USB connectivity error at boot. Once I removed the sdcard, everything works alright. Also, I figured the solution to the reboot (haven't tested it yet as I wanted to resolve my sdcard first):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317432
EDIT 3: Got the reboot solve, but the sdcard can't be read and I tried plugging it into my other phone, the first partition is only read. I can't get minitool to even find the 2nd partition. I am thinking I need to get a card reader to plug it into my laptop. Anyway, I went through your script and open the log file it used, says that there's an invalid argument for mount. Any idea?
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Why are you trying to mount /system as rw?
for getting init.d support you just have to download the apk from mentioned thread and install it, and then fallow instruction in app.
you can mount root as rw with the foll command if you want, and that is exactly what is done in he scripts as well if you will check:
Code:
mount -o remount,rw /
also to check if partition is created on sd card, type the command:
Code:
blkid
and see if
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/dev/block/vold/179:34
is listed
if not post the output and i'll see what i can do.
grim_ripper said:
Final Edit: Got it working! I had to re-partition my sdcard and made both partitions primary so maybe you might want to add that in OP as MiniTool by default selected the 2nd partition as logical
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EDIT: Correct, you need both the partitions to be primary. got out of my mind when posting the tutorial.

NisJ said:
Why are you trying to mount /system as rw?
for getting init.d support you just have to download the apk from mentioned thread and install it, and then fallow instruction in app.
you can mount root as rw with the foll command if you want, and that is exactly what is done in he scripts as well if you will check:
Code:
mount -o remount,rw /
also to check if partition is created on sd card, type the command:
Code:
blkid
and see if
Code:
/dev/block/vold/179:34
is listed
if not post the output and i'll see what i can do.
EDIT: Correct, you need both the partitions to be primary. got out of my mind when posting the tutorial.
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For whatever reason, my /etc folder is actually a link from /system/etc

Could you post a way to revert back? I think my apps are acting all funny now and just want to revert back to before. Thanks!

grim_ripper said:
Could you post a way to revert back? I think my apps are acting all funny now and just want to revert back to before. Thanks!
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The apps are behaving funny because you have lost their data as I had warned in the original post.
To fix do either of the foll:
1. reinstall app, and start fresh.
or
2. restore from Titanium backup if you had created...
or
3. copy paste 'Android' folder from sdcard2 if it is created to 'sdcard0'
To remove and revert, just delete the files from int.d, and stop scheduling it in SManger.
Note: to un schedule it from smanager, you first have to remove memory card, un schedule and then put in your memory card (this is coz when phone boots up, it is in standard way, with 8gb internal but, after script is executed SManager looses its data too.

How complicated will it be to make this compatible with 4.2.2?

grim_ripper said:
How complicated will it be to make this compatible with 4.2.2?
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Ideally should be possible, unless something has changed majorly, but I haven't tried it, as am waiting for OTA update. If it is not forth coming in 2-3 weeks, may be tempted to flash nordic rom and try.

NisJ said:
Ideally should be possible, unless something has changed majorly, but I haven't tried it, as am waiting for OTA update. If it is not forth coming in 2-3 weeks, may be tempted to flash nordic rom and try.
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I did try but nothing happened, am guessing it has permission issues or something on those lines

grim_ripper said:
I did try but nothing happened, am guessing it has permission issues or something on those lines
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Could you be more specific? Like system restarts etc...
Else in terminal try out what I Gave in post no 12 and give me what the output is for both the commands in the terminal.
Note: execute them with super user credentials.
Thanks

NisJ said:
Could you be more specific? Like system restarts etc...
Else in terminal try out what I Gave in post no 12 and give me what the output is for both the commands in the terminal.
Note: execute them with super user credentials.
Thanks
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on the 4.2.2 update, it doesnt recognize the second partition even if it is formatted to primary and set to active. there r definitely some updates done in that field and plus i cant get the init.d rights on the phone as the test.log file is absent in the data folder..no matter what i do i just cant get it straight with the present procedure. please try it on 4.2 and there r more frequent updates on the nordiac then the local version. so i decided to flash it rather than waiting for ota update