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Hey guys, first up will be the Apps2SD. Currently it shows:
SD Card
Total Space: 487mb
SD Card Secondary
Total Space: 456mb
Would like to check with you all, which sector are the applications installed to? And let say if i download mp3s or videos off the browser, where will it download to? Because when I connect USB to my HTC Dream, it only show one sector of the storage.
2nd question is that when I do a Wipe all in the Recovery mode, what does it wipe away? The entire phone storage? Does it include the davik cache as well?
Wipe will only delete the data partition. If you have apps2sd, the dalvik cache will be on the ext partition. downloads from browser go to /sdcard/downloads
apps +dalvik cache are located in /system/sd
You will need a rooted file explorer to modify things there. I recommend ES FileExplorer by EStrongs since its free. (it may be a little buggy but it should be easy to use once you get used to it)
hi there, data partition meaning at phone storage or system storage? if i do a wipe, wont it erase everything from /system/sd? Since /system/sd is at phone storage?
the data partition and the system partition are completely different. Both the data and system partitions are on the phone. /system/sd will not be affected by a wipe
What do you mean by phone storage and system storage?
phone storage and sd card storage i mean. my bad.
Ya the system partition isnt touched. The symlinks to the system partition arent used in recovery (at least i dont think ) so even though /data/app is symlinked to /system/sd
the /sd is not effected.
This is getting confusing, haha.. Okay, when I accessed my sd card through USB, how come it's only showing 512mb, this 512mb is the secondary or primary storage of the SD card? Applications are installed to the secondary or primary storage of the SD card?
You must be on a windows computer because it won't recognize a extX partition off the bat. Applications are installed to the extX partition.
I see.. So in the SD card storage settings, the secondary storage refers to the extX partition while the primary storage is the things I can see?
bryant_16 said:
I see.. So in the SD card storage settings, the secondary storage refers to the extX partition while the primary storage is the things I can see?
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Yes thats right
Can the phone access extX partition as in to look through the files? I tried with Astro, but I cant find it.
bryant_16 said:
Can the phone access extX partition as in to look through the files? I tried with Astro, but I cant find it.
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You may need rooted permissions. Download ES File Explorer and enable root permissions. It will be located in /system/sd
How do you enable root permissions? Is it inside the application itself to enable?
By the way, how do you put ringtone to phone memory?
bryant_16 said:
How do you enable root permissions? Is it inside the application itself to enable?
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ya its in the app under settings
see if you can see it without enabling.
bryant_16 said:
By the way, how do you put ringtone to phone memory?
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/system/media
I tried copy paste but cant work..
bryant_16 said:
I tried copy paste but cant work..
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Do you have enough room on your system partition?
If not, you wont be able to
Yeah, confirm got enough room for it. It just that i copy the ringtone from sdcard/media to system/media, it wont work.
bryant_16 said:
Yeah, confirm got enough room for it. It just that i copy the ringtone from sdcard/media to system/media, it wont work.
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try this in terminal
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su
#cp /sdcard/ringtone.mp3 /system/media
i was hoping to use this to move just the apps i currently have installed on my phone to the sd, but the 512mb partition is now down to 398mb, and i only had about 3 apps installed (i was just testing).
does this mean that all the apps like market and voice search are now installed on the sd?
is there any way to go back to how it was set up originally?
Which rom are you on? Cyan backs up his system apps on sd because of his special relationship with Google. All Hero/Eclair roms will put stuff on SD because there's not enough space on internal memory. It will not hurt if you do it, even if you apps are already on sd.
Good luck.
borodin1 said:
Which rom are you on? Cyan backs up his system apps on sd because of his special relationship with Google. All Hero/Eclair roms will put stuff on SD because there's not enough space on internal memory. It will not hurt if you do it, even if you apps are already on sd.
Good luck.
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im on SuperD 1.9.3, thanks. if i do change roms i.e. switch to CM, will it go back to 'normal' (i.e. how it was before i moved it)?
No, you have to move them back manually or reformat you sd and re-download what ever apps you're using.
borodin1 said:
No, you have to move them back manually or reformat you sd and re-download what ever apps you're using.
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is this feature transfers default apps to sd card or just those which are downloaded?
I a rooted running Fresh 2.0d. I am now interested in running A2SD, but have a few questions. In reading thru several posts I found the below steps if you are running Fresh.
Back up sd card
Boot into recovery
Choose partition SD Fat32,EXT2,Swap
Reboot phone
Reload files onto SD card
When it says reload onto sd card, what is meant here.
I backed up the card, ran the partition and moved the data back to the card. Now what do I do, how do you get all of the apps from the phone to now run on the card.
Also, is there a big benefit to this, is it really going to make a big difference?
Final question, I have a 16gb Kingston MicroSD. I have no idea what class of card this is, All I know is that it is 16gb. What type of card do I need for this to work properly?
reload to sd, just means copy all the files from the FAT partion pack to the drive. The FAT partion being the stuff you can see in windows....more than likely Pictures, "Lost", Rosie. Few other apps that put folders there too.
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Let me reword this.
You copied all the files off your SD card. DCIM and stuff like that. More than likely to your Windows Desktop.
Plug your phone into USB, Mount as a Drive. Copy the files you copied off initially back to the SD Card drive. (it is probably smaller now than it was before so everything might not fit if it was full)
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Class 6 FTW - But I used to run on a Class 2 and it was fine.
Big Benefit = More Apps/On phone storage space - HOWEVER sometimes it is just a PITA to deal with. Especially if you switch roms alot.
Did you titanium backup or something similar to back up your apps? If not start downloading your apps again. The big benefit to apps2sd is you can download many more apps since your not limit to the internal storage space. Also on some roms you can upgrade without reinstalling your apps (if your lucky)
xxwckdxx said:
Did you titanium backup or something similar to back up your apps? If not start downloading your apps again. The big benefit to apps2sd is you can download many more apps since your not limit to the internal storage space. Also on some roms you can upgrade without reinstalling your apps (if your lucky)
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Ok, so let me get this straight, A2SD is for market place apps that I have downloaded? I was under the impression that it was for system apps as well. I am a noob so just want to make sure my info is correct. I have mybackup pro which backups aps. Will I have to uninstall the apps and then reinstall on card? Could you please give me the proper steps on this?
jj4201998 said:
Ok, so let me get this straight, A2SD is for market place apps that I have downloaded? I was under the impression that it was for system apps as well. I am a noob so just want to make sure my info is correct. I have mybackup pro which backups aps. Will I have to uninstall the apps and then reinstall on card? Could you please give me the proper steps on this?
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You won't have to Uninstall/Reinstall anything. As I recall the move is made automagically on boot up if it detects an EXT partition. And system programs like Rosie do not get moved to the sd card TMK.
Kcarpenter said:
You won't have to Uninstall/Reinstall anything. As I recall the move is made automagically on boot up if it detects an EXT partition. And system programs like Rosie do not get moved to the sd card TMK.
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Before I do this, do I have to have a card with a certain speed, or does it not matter?
jj4201998 said:
Ok, so let me get this straight, A2SD is for market place apps that I have downloaded? I was under the impression that it was for system apps as well. I am a noob so just want to make sure my info is correct. I have mybackup pro which backups aps. Will I have to uninstall the apps and then reinstall on card? Could you please give me the proper steps on this?
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To my understanding just the apps you download are installed on it, i could be wrong. As for the steps....
1. Backup your apps
2. Nandroid backup
3. Paritition
4. Install a2sd
5. Boot up
6. Restore apps
jj4201998 said:
Before I do this, do I have to have a card with a certain speed, or does it not matter?
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Speed doesn't really matter a whole lot. If you have a 16gb card its likly a class 4+ card. I have never seen a class 2 16gig before at least. It would kind of defeat the purpose.
Class 6 is the standard for someone who would want to buy a new one, and they have a class 10 lurking around some sites. But you'll be fine on what you have. Again, I was on a class 2 for a while...racing thunder was the biggest issue, it was laggy from the SD card. haven't tried it with the new one.
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I stand corrected, it could be a class 2.
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-microSDHC-Memory-SDSDQ-016G-Packaging/dp/B001L1H0SC
jj4201998 said:
Ok, so let me get this straight, A2SD is for market place apps that I have downloaded? I was under the impression that it was for system apps as well. I am a noob so just want to make sure my info is correct. I have mybackup pro which backups aps. Will I have to uninstall the apps and then reinstall on card? Could you please give me the proper steps on this?
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When you download apps from the marketplace (free or paid), Android will put it in one of two locations: /data/app or /data/app-private. Both of those locations are on the phone itself. The problem you run into is running out of free space on the internal storage space of the phone. A2SD, in its basic form, moves the data in /data/app and /data/app-private, to matching directories on your ext partition of your secure digital card. It also creates a symlink where /data/app and /data/app-private are located. These symlinks are nothing more than shortcuts to the directories on your SD card. Android still thinks it is storing apps in /data/app and /data/app-private, but it really is storing it on the SD card.
When the instructions say to backup the SD card, what it is talking about is the FAT32 part of the SD card. As someone said earlier, it is the part that Windows can actually see. You take all the data off of your SD card and put it on your computer. The reason you need to do this is that, when you add the ext2/ext3 and swap partition, you will repartition the entire SD card, which means you will lose your data on your FAT32 partition.
When you are restoring to SD, you are taking the contents you had previously on the Fat32 part of the SD card and putting it back onto the Far32 card.
As far as apps are concerned, the A2SD will automatically move them for you...but it is always a good idea to do a nandroid backup first to make sure that you have a way to restore an image in case something goes wrong.
tkirton said:
When you download apps from the marketplace (free or paid), Android will put it in one of two locations: /data/app or /data/app-private. Both of those locations are on the phone itself. The problem you run into is running out of free space on the internal storage space of the phone. A2SD, in its basic form, moves the data in /data/app and /data/app-private, to matching directories on your ext partition of your secure digital card. It also creates a symlink where /data/app and /data/app-private are located. These symlinks are nothing more than shortcuts to the directories on your SD card. Android still thinks it is storing apps in /data/app and /data/app-private, but it really is storing it on the SD card.
When the instructions say to backup the SD card, what it is talking about is the FAT32 part of the SD card. As someone said earlier, it is the part that Windows can actually see. You take all the data off of your SD card and put it on your computer. The reason you need to do this is that, when you add the ext2/ext3 and swap partition, you will repartition the entire SD card, which means you will lose your data on your FAT32 partition.
When you are restoring to SD, you are taking the contents you had previously on the Fat32 part of the SD card and putting it back onto the Far32 card.
As far as apps are concerned, the A2SD will automatically move them for you...but it is always a good idea to do a nandroid backup first to make sure that you have a way to restore an image in case something goes wrong.
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I am running Fresh 2.0d. Someone mentioned to install A2SD, thought on Fresh it as already installed, am I missing somthing?
xxwckdxx said:
To my understanding just the apps you download are installed on it, i could be wrong. As for the steps....
1. Backup your apps
2. Nandroid backup
3. Paritition
4. Install a2sd
5. Boot up
6. Restore apps
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I am on Fresh 2.0d I thought on this Rom it was already installed. I formatted the sd card as told. However, I don't think it is working. ON the Recovery menu there is a place that says transfer apps to sd & delvik. Am I supposed to use that?
jj4201998 said:
I am running Fresh 2.0d. Someone mentioned to install A2SD, thought on Fresh it as already installed, am I missing somthing?
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No. You're not missing something. Fresh 2.0d has a Cyanogen version of A2SD. It's originally in the 1.5 Roms that are for the Hero.
Two other people, TrevE and myself, makes a variant of the original that is in Fresh 2.0d. TrevE works with ROM developers to put his in while I update mine in the distribution channels.
Whoever told you to install A2SD probably meant to go download the Darktremor A2SD 2.5 or 2.6.1 and flash it to your phone.
That part is optional, as Fresh 2.0d already has an A2SD installed.
jj4201998 said:
I am on Fresh 2.0d I thought on this Rom it was already installed. I formatted the sd card as told. However, I don't think it is working. ON the Recovery menu there is a place that says transfer apps to sd & delvik. Am I supposed to use that?
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It does it automatically.
What makes you think it isn't working? Since you rooted, I presume you have ADB. If so, enter a console session on the phone by typing adb shell
Once you have done that, type the following:
cd /data/app
pwd
If pwd returns /data/app, it isn't working.
If pwd returns /system/sd/app, A2SD is working normally.
Do the same for app-private:
cd /data/app-private
pwd
If pwd returns /data/app-private, it isn't working
if pwd returns /system/sd/app, A2SD is working normally.
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No. You're not missing something. Fresh 2.0d has a Cyanogen version of A2SD. It's originally in the 1.5 Roms that are for the Hero.
Two other people, TrevE and myself, makes a variant of the original that is in Fresh 2.0d. TrevE works with ROM developers to put his in while I update mine in the distribution channels.
Whoever told you to install A2SD probably meant to go download the Darktremor A2SD 2.5 or 2.6.1 and flash it to your phone.
That part is optional, as Fresh 2.0d already has an A2SD installed.
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I could not figure out how to get the version on Fresh d to work. I downloeaded the 2.5 version and it is working fine for me. This minor change has made all of the difference on the phone. I have asked on several posts how to speed up the hero and this truley made the difference. Thanks for the help.
Hello!
I have used Apps2SD Script included with G.O.T Recovery to partition and set up Apps2SD on my Milestone. Upon reboot everything works fine except that I can't launch two paid apps, namely: Got To Do and MountUSB. They were installed from Market but in place of the icon and name I get default icon (Droid's head on white background) and com.slamjibe.... and upon launching it I get FC. Can anyone help me?
contact the developper of these apps ask them support for apps2sd , many dev havent updated there apps for it ...
Hmm, I'm having this problem as well with apps not installing correctly.
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Which Apps2SD option did you guys use from the G.O.T. menu? I am using the "Symlink Edition" and it is working fine so far.
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Which Apps2SD option did you guys use from the G.O.T. menu? I am using the "Symlink Edition" and it is working fine so far.
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hi dsixda, I used just the plain and simple App2SD install I couldn't find a clear explination of the differences between just app2sd and the symlink version, if you have the chance, of if you are willing to could you please try to install Horoscope and Tarot by horoscope.com I know bad example app but its one that I remember off the top of my head. (GF just wont get off my tip about this one....)
~PsyCl0ne
PsyCl0ne said:
hi dsixda, I used just the plain and simple App2SD install I couldn't find a clear explination of the differences between just app2sd and the symlink version, if you have the chance, of if you are willing to could you please try to install Horoscope and Tarot by horoscope.com I know bad example app but its one that I remember off the top of my head. (GF just wont get off my tip about this one....)
~PsyCl0ne
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Yeah that horoscope app runs fine for me! Basically the "symlink edition" of Apps2SD just changes the location of the /data/app and /data/app-private folders to the EXT2 partition on the SD card.
dsixda said:
Yeah that horoscope app runs fine for me! Basically the "symlink edition" of Apps2SD just changes the location of the /data/app and /data/app-private folders to the EXT2 partition on the SD card.
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Sh*t is there anyway I can go from app2sd to the symlink with out having to reset my phone?
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PsyCl0ne said:
Sh*t is there anyway I can go from app2sd to the symlink with out having to reset my phone?
~PsyCl0ne
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Just do a Titanium Backup of all your current data, do a Nandroid backup, then reflash the ROM without apps2sd.
Then, restore with Titanium, make sure all your apps are on your device, and then finally apply the symlink edition of Apps2sd... It will move them all.
Kk so instead of doing a titanium back up, I did a full wipe, replashed, re nandroid'ed, re formatted my sd card, and installed the syslink or symlink app2sd and everything works perfectly now
Thanks you guys
~PsyCl0ne
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Hi, I had also root my phone and did a nandroid backup with GOT open recovery, and i install app2sd hack on the symlink edition, how do i know that it had been sucessfully installed on my sd?
botakbotak said:
Hi, I had also root my phone and did a nandroid backup with GOT open recovery, and i install app2sd hack on the symlink edition, how do i know that it had been sucessfully installed on my sd?
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Check the available memory in the Settings menu, it should be higher now. Or just use adb, go into /data and do an "ls -l". The app folder should point to another folder. Also, in Root Explorer the app folder should now show the size remaining proportional to your ext2 partition.
I have actually modified an existing script so that now even the /data/dalvik-cache is moved to sd. I have freed up over 30MB more now. I can attach it later.
Apps2SD script
Here's a script that takes your apps to the SD card, and also links the /data/dalvik-cache there. With a newly flashed Milestone you should see at least 190MB free.
Just unzip this under /sdcard/OpenRecovey/scripts. Launch it from OpenRecovery, using the menu option Miscellaneous-->Run script-->install_apps2sh.sh..
NOTE: Make sure your /system/bin/mot_boot_mode is either the stock one or the one that GOT's OpenRecovery added. Otherwise the script will not work.
My script is based on another APPS2SD script, but I changed it so that it doesn't overwrite the modified mot_boot_mode file that GOT's OpenRecovery had added when you do overclocking, memhack, etc. (if it's not there then it will add it).
dsixda said:
Here's a script that takes your apps to the SD card, and also links the /data/dalvik-cache there. With a newly flashed Milestone you should see at least 190MB free.
Just unzip this under /sdcard/OpenRecovey/scripts. Launch it from OpenRecovery, using the menu option Miscellaneous-->Run script-->install_apps2sh.sh..
NOTE: Make sure your /system/bin/mot_boot_mode is either the stock one or the one that GOT's OpenRecovery added. Otherwise the script will not work.
My script is based on another APPS2SD script, but I changed it so that it doesn't overwrite the modified mot_boot_mode file that GOT's OpenRecovery had added when you do overclocking, memhack, etc. (if it's not there then it will add it).
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Hi , thanks for the response, just to clarify, after rooting with got's open recovery and flashed v2a roms, i splited my sd card thru the got's open recovery program and install the symlik edition of app2sd, indeed my memory from 16x became 194, but when i install some program, some space were taken up i think, it appear to be 189 now, i installed launcherpro and a few stuff, so i can assume that my app2sd is working and it is just because some program cant support to install to sd right? Sorry for my bad english.
botakbotak said:
Hi , thanks for the response, just to clarify, after rooting with got's open recovery and flashed v2a roms, i splited my sd card thru the got's open recovery program and install the symlik edition of app2sd, indeed my memory from 16x became 194, but when i install some program, some space were taken up i think, it appear to be 189 now, i installed launcherpro and a few stuff, so i can assume that my app2sd is working and it is just because some program cant support to install to sd right? Sorry for my bad english.
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It's probably because of the stuff stored under /data/data (application data, not the apps themselves). I have the same issue too. You can try to make a symlink to move them your sd card, but it actually slows down your apps when u run them, even with a high-speed / Class 6 SD card.
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It's probably because of the stuff stored under /data/data (application data, not the apps themselves). I have the same issue too. You can try to make a symlink to move them your sd card, but it actually slows down your apps when u run them, even with a high-speed / Class 6 SD card.
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So i should go and install again ? o.o , the moment i load the roms i split the sd and install already, not sure should i install again or not .
botakbotak said:
So i should go and install again ? o.o , the moment i load the roms i split the sd and install already, not sure should i install again or not .
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NO.... It's application DATA that's taking up space, not the apps themselves. Not much you can do about it. It's normal. The symlink method would have moved your apps to the SD card automatically.
dsixda said:
NO.... It's application DATA that's taking up space, not the apps themselves. Not much you can do about it. It's normal. The symlink method would have moved your apps to the SD card automatically.
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Ok thank you very much, solved my doubts, Thanks to all who helped.
I rooted.
I flashed attn1 R012
I ADB'd (why?)
I partitioned with ROM Manager
I cannot get an app from Market to work to move my apps to SD.
Did I install the wrong ROM for this?
I thought this was supposed to be a feature of this ROM.
Al I wanted to be able to do was get rid of bloatware and move the apps to the SD.
This is getting overwhelming.
What do I do?
Download titanuim backup and check in a2sd and see if u have a ext?
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I just dl'ed it (the pro version) It's not in my apps list, but I do see it in settings>manage applications. ???
To move all of your downloaded apps to the SD card (note this does not affect your system apps):
Terminal Emulator
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I just dl'ed it (the pro version) It's not in my apps list, but I do see it in settings>manage applications. ???
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You have to also download the free version the pay is just the certificate to unlock the extras features
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Ok, I did a2sd reinstall at terminal emulator.
I downloaded Titanium free to go with my unlock version.
Here's what I see now:
Internal 194MB (117MB Free)
SD Card 7.61 GB (6.65GB Free)
SD Card (a2sd) 239 MB (124MB Free)
So, looks like it is setup now, right?
Thanks for your help!
I should probably increase the a2sd size; I don't have nearly all of the apps I want
okay my first post!
I did the above mentioned all looks good. Do have to do this every once in a while to move the apps to the sd card or will all future downloaded apps be moved to the sd card at download?
All future downloads/installations will automatically be placed on the ext partition. So nope, just do it once, make sure it's installed, and you're ready to take off.
Thanks for the response.
1. If I flash another rom with a2sd do i have to do anything special in regards to the apps on the on the ext.
2. Is the devlik cache also moved to the Sd card now? If not how would I move it?
3. If I replace the sd card with a new one would I just format and create the ext partion and how do I get the apps off the old card?
Thanks in advance
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Thanks for the response.
1. If I flash another rom with a2sd do i have to do anything special in regards to the apps on the on the ext.
2. Is the devlik cache also moved to the Sd card now? If not how would I move it?
3. If I replace the sd card with a new one would I just format and create the ext partion and how do I get the apps off the old card?
Thanks in advance
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1. if you're using DT a2sd then yes you will need to reflash it after flashing a new rom.
2. again if using DT a2sd you will have to go into the terminal emulator and type 'su', hit enter. Then type 'a2sd cachesd'. This will move your dalvic to the ext. On the built a2sd there is no option to do this.
3. to get the apps of the old ext partition you will need some form of a linux operating system such as ubuntu (you can run ubunty right off a cd or usb without actually installing it to your computer) and you can literally just copy and paste. Windows does not do this as it cannnot see you ext partition and I have no idea if Mac can or not.
Understood.
Thanks for the quick response.