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Hello, you Gods in the mobile development world!
IN about 8 days I will get an Xperia X2 from my company and from what I saw when I searched around on the wonderful World Wide Web, is that this phone has some really annoying errors.
And as a person that have been useing the HD2 for some time now, this probably will be the end of whats left of my nervs...
Anyway, as for the question;
What happens if I try to use a X1 ROM developed by you guys? Willl the Failtrain end in a BRICK wall? Or is there any chance of success? Is there anything I can do to increase the chances for a victory? <- Apart from the obvious, just **** in trying to do something about it and wait for an official update aka move on with my life... (or maby throw the phone out in the snow?)
I'm Willing (of course) to tell u whatever information you need about the phone.
There must be other like me- that have tryed or is willing to...?
Any Cabs that work?
Maby someone could post a sticky for stuff that work on the X2?
Cheers mates!
mm.. and sorry for the spelling. English is my 3rd language and speaking is one thing.. typing somthing els!
Maybe I should simply send it to any of you ROM developers....
Why are you calling it the failtrain?
Why would you want an x1 rom with outdated stuff on an x2 any way?
And the x2 will get custom roms too (any time when it gets hard spl'ed)
Just wait .. dont throw it in the snow and if you plan on doing that might as well sell it on ebay?
You could just stick with the hd2 any way its better in everything. (Ok no hardware keyboard)
Hi, i'm an X2 owner and i'm also inclined to call it the failtrain. I've been lurking here a short while but i've not really seen many of its issues documented. Or probably i've been lazy and missed it.
I've not much time to detail its issues now, will just point out some main points. The biggest grouse any X2 owner will have is that the software just feels so glitchy. My phone was hanging on the lock screen. I.e. after locking my phone, it will without fail, at least once a day, crash while on the lock screen. There is no fix except to take out the battery. After hard resetting via battery replacement, you've gotta reset it once more to clear the error completely.
Daily.
I've seen some other users bring up the fact that the screen does not wake up upon receiving text messages. Oh and even the text message alert can hang, i.e. half of it will play, and end abruptly. When you next do an action involving any alert sound, the remaining part will play as well.
If this doesnt reek of an incomplete product, i don't know what does.
I've reset my phone via SEUS. It is the same firmware version as what was in the box, though having done that the phone lock problem has stopped, so far.
But this phone does show a lot of promise. As a former X1 user, the X2 surely is a step in the right direction, in terms of polish and interface. Of course this assumes that SE gets its act together and push out decent firmware, of which there is no news.
Until then, the X2 is quite the disappointment.
Chaosstorm said:
Why would you want an x1 rom with outdated stuff on an x2 any way?
And the x2 will get custom roms too (any time when it gets hard spl'ed)
Just wait .. dont throw it in the snow and if you plan on doing that might as well sell it on ebay?
You could just stick with the hd2 any way its better in everything. (Ok no hardware keyboard)
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I rather be using a working rom instead of a phone so full of glitches that its almost inpossible to use on a daly basis..
Well. Ill just have to wait for those hard spl's...
schaotan said:
Hi, i'm an X2 owner and i'm also inclined to call it the failtrain. I've been lurking here a short while but i've not really seen many of its issues documented. Or probably i've been lazy and missed it.
I've not much time to detail its issues now, will just point out some main points. The biggest grouse any X2 owner will have is that the software just feels so glitchy. My phone was hanging on the lock screen. I.e. after locking my phone, it will without fail, at least once a day, crash while on the lock screen. There is no fix except to take out the battery. After hard resetting via battery replacement, you've gotta reset it once more to clear the error completely.
Daily.
I've seen some other users bring up the fact that the screen does not wake up upon receiving text messages. Oh and even the text message alert can hang, i.e. half of it will play, and end abruptly. When you next do an action involving any alert sound, the remaining part will play as well.
If this doesnt reek of an incomplete product, i don't know what does.
I've reset my phone via SEUS. It is the same firmware version as what was in the box, though having done that the phone lock problem has stopped, so far.
But this phone does show a lot of promise. As a former X1 user, the X2 surely is a step in the right direction, in terms of polish and interface. Of course this assumes that SE gets its act together and push out decent firmware, of which there is no news.
Until then, the X2 is quite the disappointment.
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Spot on.
So there are no news from SE about any updates coming to his phone in the nere future?
poetryrocksalot said:
Why are you calling it the failtrain?
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Buy one and you'll know
Molokos|Anger said:
Spot on.
So there are no news from SE about any updates coming to his phone in the nere future?
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Yes they are:
http://xperiancers.com/2010/02/02/xperia-x2-software-support-schedule/
Two major updates.
Thx doministry.
To bad that it takes SE that long to upgrade the phone to 6.5.2 and 6.5.3 ...
I'm getting realy tierd of all these phone companys pumping out phones and then just stop updating there softwere- exept that ****ty phone from that plastic-design company with a fruit as there trademark.. and maby HTC that seems to be a more reliable company for each year that passes. (Well.. maby its just me..)
Well, it's not really necessary to throw in on the snow or sell it somewhere. Just keep it in your locker room or somewhere safe and get back to it until XDA and ROM Chefs start to put a special thread here.
It's Microsoft's Windows Mobile anyway and not Toyota.
id suggest that when you get your X2, have a quick play with it and see what you think. but then put it away until march when the first update comes out. its a pretty good phone but judging by your first post i doubt you could put up with the few bugs that are still present.
Nullstring said:
Well, it's not really necessary to throw in on the snow or sell it somewhere. Just keep it in your locker room or somewhere safe and get back to it until XDA and ROM Chefs start to put a special thread here.
It's Microsoft's Windows Mobile anyway and not Toyota.
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Well... if it had been made in Japan you could have fixed it with glue... (There is a Swedish saying: if you can not fix it with tape or glue - then it's not worth repairing...)
Still thinking about that pile of snow.......
Molokos|Anger said:
Thx doministry.
To bad that it takes SE that long to upgrade the phone to 6.5.2 and 6.5.3 ...
I'm getting realy tierd of all these phone companys pumping out phones and then just stop updating there softwere- exept that ****ty phone from that plastic-design company with a fruit as there trademark.. and maby HTC that seems to be a more reliable company for each year that passes. (Well.. maby its just me..)
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Ahem, sorry,
but's not a SE only problem!
WM 6.5.3 was announced officially few days back,
so apparently there's no device yet on market with this 6.5.3 (I mean device available, not just announced)
Hi,
I'm seriously considering going out and buying this phone but I'm really not sure after seeing all the threads with people saying that they go back to their phone and it's switched off and requires a battery pull.
This seems to be a fairly serious problem but I was just wondering if it is happening to everyone who owns the O2x?
Please let me know if you are unaffected by the problem!
DarthOps said:
Hi,
I'm seriously considering going out and buying this phone but I'm really not sure after seeing all the threads with people saying that they go back to their phone and it's switched off and requires a battery pull.
This seems to be a fairly serious problem but I was just wondering if it is happening to everyone who owns the O2x?
Please let me know if you are unaffected by the problem!
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Dont do it go for SGS2
Mine is fine! 1 month of use and never crashed.
My phone has been fine not one reboot or freeze, stayed stock rom for first week then rooted and changed roms several times and still no problems, got mine off ebay brand new, can give u the link to the seller if you like
Sent from my LG-P990 using XDA App
I've had mine since March and I have not experienced any freezes or reboots.
It really is a great piece of hardware. I'm not that fond of LGs software, but that can be solved with a custom ROM.
// A
aholstenson said:
I've had mine since March and I have not experienced any freezes or reboots.
It really is a great piece of hardware. I'm not that fond of LGs software, but that can be solved with a custom ROM.
// A
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Have you done anything (or have any tips) to try and avoid the issues or do you think you're just lucky lol
KeePeeR26 said:
Dont do it go for SGS2
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Unless you want accurate GPS that is.
Rusty! said:
Unless you want accurate GPS that is.
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So, how do you get on Rusty, you seem like a very experienced XDA member.. how is the O2X treating you?
i am not the best guy to talk to . i just got the phone used yesterday for very cheap. i figured that if i dont like it, i can sell it for the same money or even make a little more and get the SGS2.
but so far. no crashes/reboots.. been more than 24 hours. using custom rom as well.
i got the phone for 300$. the stickers still on it. i figure if i decide to sell it. i wont lose at all..
so far. i am really loving the phone. i love the UI of LG. but its slow. it laggs. i wonder if there is a custom rom with the LG UI but smooth one.
right now i am on modaco. with 3000 quadrant. if i switch to google launcher. phone is smooth. if i switch to LG one, it laggs a little in the home screen. i tried the Tmobile version 2.3 on my optimus. its super smooth. but i cant make phone calls on it lol.
and i had a screen problem with the cayanogen rom. for some reason my screens dims and go bright on its own.
oh yeah. i also have a screen light leak/bleed. but it doesnt bother me much because the only way i can notice it if the room is dark and i have a black wallpaper.
Mine went slow once on stock, once isn't bad though. The froyo Rom does seem rushed in truth, (I have random battery drains from my Dialer which makes no sense) but I'm sure Gingerbread will have everything sorted.
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So, how do you get on Rusty, you seem like a very experienced XDA member.. how is the O2X treating you?
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Pretty well to be honest. I use CM7 nighties (I bought the phone specifically because it was going to be supported by them) so I cannot expect a bug free experience at this early stage.
I am enjoying it though, I came from a Nexus One that had bugger all internal storage and a poor digitizer, so proper multi-touch and 1.5GB spare for apps is fantastic.
The IPS screen is great if you can overlook the associated backlight bleed (it's not just the 2X, look at iOS devices as well, same thing), the GPS chip is excellent, I can get locks in place that my N1 couldn't.
The stock ROM is turd, frankly. It's fast, until you install something, then it becomes unusable for a bit until it's finished with the app... quality coding
fine
i have my lg optimus 2x now for over a month, no problems here.
i stil have the stock rom.
first v10a. no problem
later v10b. no problem
I have had 2 O2x now for litle over a month
one of them has had BSOD and restarts randomly - the other had none, atleast for the first month - but these past days this one has now also rebooted a couple of times.
Both are completely stock - not rooted and not using any custom roms.
Only using a different launcher which do help make the BSOD and Reboots less often.
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Have you done anything (or have any tips) to try and avoid the issues or do you think you're just lucky lol
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I haven't done anything special, so I guess I'm just lucky.
KeePeeR26 said:
Dont do it go for SGS2
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I returned my O2X and did exactly this. SGS2 on the way to my door!
smokie700 said:
I returned my O2X and did exactly this. SGS2 on the way to my door!
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TRAITOR hehehehe
Look at all the problems they are having aswell over at there forum
No Issues
I have had it since first day it came out. Not one reboot. Other then minor screen bleed love the phone 1,000X better then my Vibrant
Kickasskev said:
TRAITOR hehehehe
Look at all the problems they are having aswell over at there forum
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I been over there as well. Most of the problems on the SGS 2 are either software or can be solved with apps. My O2X had so many problems that I could never use the phone and wifi at the same time. Bleeding, constant reboots/freezes crashes even with Custom ROMs. Since Im in afghanistan now I need a phone that will work not just when it feels like it. I will say that when the O2X was working it was a sweet phone. I just dont see the same problems with the SGS2 and Samsung tends to be better in the service side instead of LG leaving us pissing in the wind waiting for a "possible update" that might fix things or not.
guess i´m a lucky guy, too!
i have no crashes/reboots and absolutely NO backlight bleeding
Mine is also working properly.
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hey guys a quick question for you. I bought an OB for my gf as a gift for christmass. I get dead touches sometimes and it caught my eye sometime ago that some users experienced similar probs. Is it hardware or crappy software on part of lg? and if it is sw can any version fix this? I updated phone to v10g and still same problem. maybe some other version or any custom rom? Other than that phone is pretty decent and the screen compared to my o3d rocks. Any help would be welcome. And merry christmass to all. sry for my bad english
If it's a hardware issue with capacitive panel, no upgrade will fix it.
And about the ROM, we have Cyanogenmod nightlies as the best available option. ( Try installing CM7, if you think your touch button problem is s/w related)
Dead touches? What are those? Care to elaborate? Thanks!
dead touches is a problem of LGmail. if this app not in memory - we have dead touches. start LGmail and quit
officialreloaded said:
If it's a hardware issue with capacitive panel, no upgrade will fix it.
And about the ROM, we have Cyanogenmod nightlies as the best available option. ( Try installing CM7, if you think your touch button problem is s/w related)
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so are you suggesting i send it back as D.O.A and have ot replaced? I mean is it just my bad luck or is it a general problem with all OBs?
jimakos29 said:
so are you suggesting i send it back as D.O.A and have ot replaced? I mean is it just my bad luck or is it a general problem with all OBs?
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Yup, it's your tough luck buddy... replace it.
Hello again friends,
So,after a while of asking and comparing devices,I finally got My Z1 yesterday,but guess what?I found out that it has the touchscreen problem!I realized it after doing the test..now I dont know if it can be fixed by some software or something or if I must return it to the store and wait a loooong time till they bring me another one which will probably have the same problem |-(
What can I do?any thoughts?
Please man, use the search button, we have A LOT of posts about this problem, we have a possible solution for it, just serach on the forum and you will find.....
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Please man, use the search button, we have A LOT of posts about this problem, we have a possible solution for it, just serach on the forum and you will find.....
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I've seen a few threads about it and in all of them everybody were asking,didnt quite see a solution..I would appreciate it if you can give me a hand,if not,then Thank you anyway
Ok, some questions, On the box of your phone is write "Made in Brazil"? If you put your phone on a flat surface, wait 30 sec and try to scroll a page it will fail? When you are playing a game and the phone is hot your touch fails? If yes you have a hardware problem, ask for a replacement, i had to change my phone 3 times until find a working one, my other 2 Z1 was made in Brazil, now the working one is made in China, some people with the China one have this problem too, but is rare. The Brazilian version is having an assembly problem, causing bad contact, if this is your case change the phone.
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Ok, some questions, On the box of your phone is write "Made in Brazil"? If you put your phone on a flat surface, wait 30 sec and try to scroll a page it will fail? When you are playing a game and the phone is hot your touch fails? If yes you have a hardware problem, ask for a replacement, i had to change my phone 3 times until find a working one, my other 2 Z1 was made in Brazil, now the working one is made in China, some people with the China one have this problem too, but is rare. The Brazilian version is having an assembly problem, causing bad contact, if this is your case change the phone.
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made in china also have this problem. :crying:
ghostman2 said:
Ok, some questions, On the box of your phone is write "Made in Brazil"? If you put your phone on a flat surface, wait 30 sec and try to scroll a page it will fail? When you are playing a game and the phone is hot your touch fails? If yes you have a hardware problem, ask for a replacement, i had to change my phone 3 times until find a working one, my other 2 Z1 was made in Brazil, now the working one is made in China, some people with the China one have this problem too, but is rare. The Brazilian version is having an assembly problem, causing bad contact, if this is your case change the phone.
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Thanks man for the follow up
To answer your Q,my phone is made in china,tried putting it on a flat surface waited 3os and i was able to scroll down without a problem,as for gaming,I still didnt do that i only got the phone yesterday
MakaMika said:
Thanks man for the follow up
To answer your Q,my phone is made in china,tried putting it on a flat surface waited 3os and i was able to scroll down without a problem,as for gaming,I still didnt do that i only got the phone yesterday
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Ok, make a try with games and see if the problem will appears, i recommend you to do the following, pick a camera and record the problem when it appears, then take to store and change the phone, BUT before you go out test if the problem will come on the new phone, that was what i did, i stayed 3 hour inside the store testing
@MakaMika Sorry to say but you can join us here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2540950
Anyway, still some chance to fix this touch screen problems with a software, a good new FW which we wait for it but I will not wait until that and I will send the phone back to the store when you bought it a tell them to fix it or replace with a new device, like I did. The phone still under warranty and should be issues free and it's not so you have the rights to send it back. Sony Service will decide if repair or replace.
3 hours???LOOL I guess i ll try the gaming test,what game do you recomand to heat up the phone quickly?
MakaMika said:
3 hours???LOOL I guess i ll try the gaming test,what game do you recomand to heat up the phone quickly?
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Dead Trigger 2, 10 minutes of gaming, or 2 missions the problem appeared for me
eclyptos said:
@MakaMika Sorry to say but you can join us here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2540950
Anyway, still some chance to fix this touch screen problems with a software, a good new FW which we wait for it but I will not wait until that and I will send the phone back to the store when you bought it a tell them to fix it or replace with a new device, like I did. The phone still under warranty and should be issues free and it's not so you have the rights to send it back. Sony Service will decide if repair or replace.
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Yo eclyptos, have you checked the sony forums? one of the mods replied that a software fix that will cure our ****ty problem will be released in the next update. Cross fingers for that.
My problem occurs even when browsing pictures, swiping in the pattern lock and gaming especially Shooting games like CK2
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Yo eclyptos, have you checked the sony forums? one of the mods replied that a software fix that will cure our ****ty problem will be released in the next update. Cross fingers for that.
My problem occurs even when browsing pictures, swiping in the pattern lock and gaming especially Shooting games like CK2
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Is that for sure dude?but what if it is a hardware issue?
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Is that for sure dude?but what if it is a hardware issue?
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This hardware issues can be managed via software that is why we wait for that FW. BTW we are not sure when and how and if it's hardware or software related but new FW should definitely help. They are aware about this issues and they point the FW in that way to fix it.
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This hardware issues can be managed via software that is why we wait for that FW. BTW we are not sure when and how and if it's hardware or software related but new FW should definitely help. They are aware about this issues and they point the FW in that way to fix it.
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Hmmm,I see.You know im really confused now
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Hmmm,I see.You know im really confused now
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Me too. I try to clarified, Sony never confirmed it's a hardware problem of they touch screen. People has different Touch Screen issues, someone when touch the aluminium frame the Touch Screen start working well again, someone else don't have that but have problem scrolling pages or opening the phone with pattern even if they touch the aluminium frame or not. So here is the confusion, who have to touch the aluminium frame to let working the Touch Screen saying it's a hardware related (kind of wrong phone sealing) and others who have the problem even when touching the aluminium frame or not saying it's a software related. Many said also after the update to 4.3 the touch screen get worse, like mine. Now do you understand the confusion? Many send the phones back via warranty, many waiting for a FW pointed to fix this issues. Developers are aware about this Touch Screen problem so they try to fix it, even if seems hardware related, with the release of the new updated FW .114, .124 or 136, who know?
Yes,I get you.mine works well when touching the aluminum frame.I guess after all i should return it,didnt even enjoy the few days of having it
Are you sure that a hardware problem can be solved with software update? I mean, i know that software can turn around some issues, but this is not certain
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Are you sure that a hardware problem can be solved with software update? I mean, i know that software can turn around some issues, but this is not certain
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Exactly, we don't know this yet. We have to wait for a new FW pointed to fix this problem. If they do it's a software issue.
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MakaMika said:
Yes,I get you.mine works well when touching the aluminum frame.I guess after all i should return it,didnt even enjoy the few days of having it
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You definitely should send it back. The FW I think it's the last chance.
Hi all, does anyone faces the same buggy behaviour that I got when using the large screen? When I move or reduce apps the app window is kinda flickering. Noticed that after the latest update. Any feedback or help are welcome. Cheers guys
timalpipo said:
Hi all, does anyone faces the same buggy behaviour that I got when using the large screen? When I move or reduce apps the app window is kinda flickering. Noticed that after the latest update. Any feedback or help are welcome. Cheers guys
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Which software version are you on?
13.1.14.6.W10 just dropped and it could fix that behavior as it is described as an update to multiwindow
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Which software version are you on?
13.1.14.6.W10 just dropped and it could fix that behavior as it is described as an update to multiwindow
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Thanks for taking the time to answer.. Im on 13.1.14.5.w10 which may explain that. I'm not getting any new update at the moment, unfortunately. will wait. Does the new update also improve a bit battery usage, it is draining quite fast now!
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Which software version are you on?
13.1.14.6.W10 just dropped and it could fix that behavior as it is described as an update to multiwindow
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Well, Update. Finally it was not a software update, there is now a White strip in the middle of the screen! Right 1 year after the end of warranty ( bought 05/2022) I'm done..
timalpipo said:
Well, Update. Finally it was not a software update, there is now a White strip in the middle of the screen! Right 1 year after the end of warranty ( bought 05/2022) I'm done..
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bruh i'm so sorry
I should highlight here GIZTOP professionalism and customer care. They will replace it under warranty for me. I just need to send it back... With the hassle of not being able to use Google to reinstall the phone
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I should highlight here GIZTOP professionalism and customer care. They will replace it under warranty for me. I just need to send it back... With the hassle of not being able to use Google to reinstall the phone
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that's literally top of the class!
I'll have to see if I can get some help but I will lose root but hooray for giztop!
Hello I also have some flickering since last update. The left part of the big screen sometimes appears darker than the right and flickers. Closing and opening sometimes fix it, also when toggling off auto brightness. Anyone in the same case or is it a hardware failure?