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*Solved* JAC's A2SD or JAC's SLOW SD?

I have a rooted G1
& i have jf's 1.5 build with CM's recovery
But the other day out of being scared that i bricked my g1
i flashed to jf but after i thought i "bricked"
i realized that was normal when installing Hero SPL/Radio
So im think of finally flahing to Hero
but theres two options for me
1. flash he spl/radio again then install JAC's Slow SD hero ROm
2. wait till i get paid next week and buy a new 8gb or 16gb
(does the g1 support 16???) then install Jac's Hero Rom but with Apps2SD
oh and if any body out there with JAC's Slow SD rom does it really differ from the A2sd rom(except 4 the obvious)
An does it give you a decent start off of memory like 70mb internal or something
And since i already installed the hero spl/radio do i need to reflash them in order to install the rom
or can i just go ahead and flash the Slow SD rom
And last does Swapper make a difference on the Slow SD Rom
Thanks in advanced
Because i wont beable to read the replies tonight(maybe)

watchyaself said:
I have a rooted G1
& i have jf's 1.5 build with CM's recovery
But the other day out of being scared that i bricked my g1
i flashed to jf but after i thought i "bricked"
i realized that was normal when installing Hero SPL/Radio
So im think of finally flahing to Hero
but theres two options for me
1. flash he spl/radio again then install JAC's Slow SD hero ROm
2. wait till i get paid next week and buy a new 8gb or 16gb
(does the g1 support 16???) then install Jac's Hero Rom but with Apps2SD
oh and if any body out there with JAC's Slow SD rom does it really differ from the A2sd rom(except 4 the obvious)
An does it give you a decent start off of memory like 70mb internal or something
And since i already installed the hero spl/radio do i need to reflash them in order to install the rom
or can i just go ahead and flash the Slow SD rom
And last does Swapper make a difference on the Slow SD Rom
Thanks in advanced
Because i wont beable to read the replies tonight(maybe)
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unless you have flashed another spl to your phone you still have the new spl. yes the g1 supports 16gb sdcards. i haven't tried the slow version of hero because i have a class 6 8gb sdcard but you should be able to flash the slow rom just fine. i think it leaves around 30mb of free space but i am not sure and swapper should make it run faster on the slow version set it to 32/30 (swap/swappiness) should give best results. you should invest in a class 6 sdcard though. also if using the swapper app make sure you put the swapfile in /system/sd so it will not corrupt your sdcard when you mount it. if there is anything else i have not covered just ask and i will answer to the best of my ability.

So pretty much since I already flashed the spl/radio from I think it was
Saphire ports or something like I'm able to flash to pretty much any ROM including JAC's Slow SD
With no problems??
And if I flash to JAC's Slow SD ROM today, can I reflash to the A2SD ROM next week when I get a new card
Oh yeah and is there a way to check my spl just to make sure I got the right one?
ohhh and I already know how to check my radio

Go into bootloader (camera+power) SPL:1.33.2005

david1171 said:
unless you have flashed another spl to your phone you still have the new spl. yes the g1 supports 16gb sdcards. i haven't tried the slow version of hero because i have a class 6 8gb sdcard but you should be able to flash the slow rom just fine. i think it leaves around 30mb of free space but i am not sure and swapper should make it run faster on the slow version set it to 32/30 (swap/swappiness) should give best results. you should invest in a class 6 sdcard though. also if using the swapper app make sure you put the swapfile in /system/sd so it will not corrupt your sdcard when you mount it. if there is anything else i have not covered just ask and i will answer to the best of my ability.
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Well if he goes to JACHero 2.36 he shouldn't use swapper. Just create the linux-swap partition on your sd card and everything is auto from there. You wouldn't want to have the partition and use swapper because that will mess things up. Plus having linux-swap partition compared to swapper makes a huge difference.

supremeteam256 said:
Well if he goes to JACHero 2.36 he shouldn't use swapper. Just create the linux-swap partition on your sd card and everything is auto from there. You wouldn't want to have the partition and use swapper because that will mess things up. Plus having linux-swap partition compared to swapper makes a huge difference.
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Erm...you mean JACHero 2.63

alritewhadeva said:
Erm...you mean JACHero 2.63
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Yep my bad. Its to early here at work. lol

So if I create a linux swap patition using paragon partiton ill select "linux swap'
And then flash the rom ??and then after I boot up I won't need to do anything??
Oh and since I will most likely flash to JAC's a2sd rom because I'm going to buy a sdhc card next week

watchyaself said:
So if I create a linux swap patition using paragon partiton ill select "linux swap'
And then flash the rom ??and then after I boot up I won't need to do anything??
Oh and since I will most likely flash to JAC's a2sd rom because I'm going to buy a sdhc card next week
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JACHero 2.63 will automatically see the linux-swap

Ok well I think I'm going to flash to slow sd for now then next week to a2sd
Oh and just to make sure my radio is 2.22.1.16 or something like that
And my spl is 1.33.2005 so am I all good to flash to jachero
and I have linux swap so I can flash right???
Oh and how would it most likely take to boot for the first time??
Thank you in advance

watchyaself said:
Ok well I think I'm going to flash to slow sd for now then next week to a2sd
Oh and just to make sure my radio is 2.22.1.16 or something like that
And my spl is 1.33.2005 so am I all good to flash to jachero
and I have linux swap so I can flash right???
Oh and how would it most likely take to boot for the first time??
Thank you in advance
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Yep as long as you got the spl and radio you good. You really don't have to have the linux-swap partition but if you do it will pick it up automatically. And it shouldn't take a long time to boot up the first time.

Thanks man I really appreaciate the help
And from everyone els to
Oh and one last ?
Since I'm going to flash to the slow sd rom
When I reflash next week to a2sd jac with my new 4 gig or 8 I'm not sure do I have to prep the card
With the recovery img
Fat32
Ext3 and the linix swap
And it would turn on fine??
Oh and is ext3 a replacement for ext2
So that meaning all my apps on ext3
Music photos etc.. on fat32
And linux swap is what??
I think I'm confused here
I just want to make sure that next week I don't muck up my g1

watchyaself said:
Thanks man I really appreaciate the help
And from everyone els to
Oh and one last ?
Since I'm going to flash to the slow sd rom
When I reflash next week to a2sd jac with my new 4 gig or 8 I'm not sure do I have to prep the card
With the recovery img
Fat32
Ext3 and the linix swap
And it would turn on fine??
Oh and is ext3 a replacement for ext2
So that meaning all my apps on ext3
Music photos etc.. on fat32
And linux swap is what??
I think I'm confused here
I just want to make sure that next week I don't muck up my g1
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You won't have to do anything with the recovery img because that is already on your phone. The ext3 is just like the ext2 but suppose to be safer for the card so yes all your apps will be on there and photos, music, videos and everything else on your fat32. The linux-swap is basically like giving your phone more ram. If you need help formating your card I have a tutorial in my sig on how to set everything up.

supremeteam256 said:
You won't have to do anything with the recovery img because that is already on your phone. The ext3 is just like the ext2 but suppose to be safer for the card so yes all your apps will be on there and photos, music, videos and everything else on your fat32. The linux-swap is basically like giving your phone more ram. If you need help formating your card I have a tutorial in my sig on how to set everything up.
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His tutorial is very good and I noticed a HUGE difference moving from swapper app to linux-swap as its own partition.

Oh how big do i make Linix Swap
Anybody??

32MB is fine for swap.

help with my sdcard
Hey guys I was wondering if any of you can help me out get more space on my phone i formarted my sdcard to ex2 and linux_swap and i still get 70mb plz help I nee dthe space I'm running the latest jachero

it saves to the sd automatically
i think
it doesnt show as merged internal/sd
it just saves to sd

help
is not showing anything it keep making my internal memory smaller

well idk what to say maybe
reflash hero then see if that works
oh and are you sure you didnt download his Slow SD ROM
if you dont know what that is its basically JAChero but with apps to internal memory maybe you did that
because thats what is sounds like

Rooted G1 with Cyanogen... only 14 MB internal Memory left?

Ok Guys, new to this site, hopefully y'all can help me out.
I recently rooted my G1, Installed the latest Cyanogen (4.7.2.1) and installed a theme ( Marks Theme). I dont have very many apps cause I didnt want to bog down the phone memory.....
I love the set up but it started running slower even after I started running the over clocker widget.
My phone is only showing 14.18 MB of free internal memory. I went through my applications installed and can only find around 25 MB being used from all installed apps ( including browser and messaging etc.)
I even tried to do a factory reset ( by going through the settings) and the factory reset is not working. It changed nothing.
Is there something that Im missing? I feel like I should have much more free memory.
I love the way my phone works and the set up, I just wish it had more free memory so that it would run faster.
Ive thought about doing the Apps2SD but I feel like I chould have much more memory on my phone even before doing something like that.
PLEASE HELP!!!!!!

This is a question, and as such belongs in the Q&A section. You'll receive a better response to such things there.
The internal memory you're referring to is your /system partition.
It is where the entire OS is stored, basically. Which takes up, in your case, a whopping 55 MB (out of 70 MB).
If you //really// want more room, follow the Apps-2-SD tutorials out there. You'll get /plenty/ of space.

You could always upgrade to the new amon ra and then let it partition the sd card for you.Then you can have all that free phone storage for whatever it is.Bext time just try to restrict yourself from posting in wrong section
-Best regards

IConrad01 said:
This is a question, and as such belongs in the Q&A section. You'll receive a better response to such things there.
The internal memory you're referring to is your /system partition.
It is where the entire OS is stored, basically. Which takes up, in your case, a whopping 55 MB (out of 70 MB).
If you //really// want more room, follow the Apps-2-SD tutorials out there. You'll get /plenty/ of space.
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Thank you for the quick response. Is there a way to move this thread?
Also is there a better ROM that will take up less memory? I like this version but obviously it is wayy to large.
Anyone else running cyanogen 4.7.2.1 having this issue?

Most people using the Cyanogen ROM also utilize A2SD. Partition your SD card and you'll get more room.

pewterwest said:
Anyone else running cyanogen 4.7.2.1 having this issue?
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There is no issue, you just don't have an ext partition ergo, all applications are installed to your phone which is why you have low phone memory.

pewterwest said:
Thank you for the quick response. Is there a way to move this thread?
Also is there a better ROM that will take up less memory? I like this version but obviously it is wayy to large.
Anyone else running cyanogen 4.7.2.1 having this issue?
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Hello! app2SD will put the apps to ext...Then you will have more memory, why do you think people use it? To save even more money on geico?
Go here for the amon recovery...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669

Hi, first of this has nothing to do with development, should be in Q&A. Please remember for next time
OK, when you're on a custom ROM, don't use factory reset. Instead boot in to the recovery image and perform a wipe from there, and that's exactly what I'd suggest. Be prepared to loose everything stored on the phones memory, but you can use a backup app from the market for that... No you really should way more space than that, I can't really explain why...

IConrad01 said:
This is a question, and as such belongs in the Q&A section. You'll receive a better response to such things there.
The internal memory you're referring to is your /system partition.
It is where the entire OS is stored, basically. Which takes up, in your case, a whopping 55 MB (out of 70 MB).
If you //really// want more room, follow the Apps-2-SD tutorials out there. You'll get /plenty/ of space.
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The phone has two main partitions: /system and /data. It isn't /system that's filling up, it's /data (which makes sense...). The phone can't write to /system when it's unrooted, so it's not possible to store files there...

Everyone is trying to help but for a noob it can be a bit too much...4.2.7.1 is the best Rom available so keep that....RA Recovery is the best way to set up your memory card to accept your apps and keep them there freeing up a ton of space on the phone....simple way to fix is....Just format you sdcard with EXT3 using the RA-recovery v1.5.1 then once your card is formatted just reboot and Cyanogen's rom will move all the apps for you.....will not need to wipe any info on the phone that way...done it many times......Pm me if you need help!!!!
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some threads to help:
Ra - Recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669
OR-
[REF] manual partition of sdcard w/parted,goto ext3/4 from adb. no liveCD req'd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534714

Young Money. Cash Money.
(partition sd card)

The non rooted standard T-Mobile rom is about the same size and will give you about the same amount of free space. There could be a more barebones rom but I think it's just a lot easier to run Apps2SD then to create a rom that might get you an extra 10mb of internal space. This is the fault of the internal memory on the phone being small. The only way to fix that is getting Apps2sd running which if you make a partion of 100mb should be enough to install all the apps you need. Getting a larger SD card for $10 is also another option so you wont have 1/10th of your sd cards storage gone.

djdarkknight96 said:
Everyone is trying to help but for a noob it can be a bit too much...4.2.7.1 is the best Rom available so keep that....RA Recovery is the best way to set up your memory card to accept your apps and keep them there freeing up a ton of space on the phone....simple way to fix is....Just format you sdcard with EXT3 using the RA-recovery v1.5.1 then once your card is formatted just reboot and Cyanogen's rom will move all the apps for you.....will not need to wipe any info on the phone that way...done it many times......Pm me if you need help!!!!
EDIT:
some threads to help:
Ra - Recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669
OR-
[REF] manual partition of sdcard w/parted,goto ext3/4 from adb. no liveCD req'd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534714
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Guys thank you very much for your help..... i partioned my sd and now i have 58.8 MB free on internal.... you guys are great.
Is there anything else i can do besides rooting, apps2sd and overclocker to make even faster?

pewterwest said:
Guys thank you very much for your help..... i partioned my sd and now i have 58.8 MB free on internal.... you guys are great.
Is there anything else i can do besides rooting, apps2sd and overclocker to make even faster?
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You can always try different roms. CM is good and fast, but maybe try dwang 1.13 or Wesgarner version. wg is based on CM. I find it faster and more stable but this is just my opinion. if you back everything up with nandroid and some app like mybackup, you can flash all you want. you'll be able to get everything back with a nandroid/mybackup restore. try different stuff out and figure out what you like!

Dwang's 1.7 rom

hey guys, i tried to post this in dwangs rom but it gets lost in the tread and not answered.
My phone has been running a bit slow lately, i want to switch to this "fast" rom.
I am currently on cyanogen's rom
My spl is 1.33.2005
My radio is 3.22.20.17
my phone is 32B, the important part is that my phone is EBI1
would I be able to flash his rom to my phone and would i need to wipe? does that mean that i need to reinstall all apps and songs and stuff?

I think you will need to load all apps again.
I am a bigtime noob, but I think I asked that question and I was told whenever you put a new rom on you have to load all the stuff again. I imagine if you have songs and apps on your sd card it is easier to install again. I want to know if having a larger or faster sd card helps it process faster? I mean, can the phone use the card as ram to help it process more,it is it more like a hard drive so just gives faster access to the programs loaded on the card?

yes it is possible to do that ram hack, search button it. Alot of ppl dont do it for a number of reasons including the 3d graphics arent as good after it. But does anyone know about the compatibility of my phone with the rom?

jeffrimerman said:
I am a bigtime noob, but I think I asked that question and I was told whenever you put a new rom on you have to load all the stuff again. I imagine if you have songs and apps on your sd card it is easier to install again. I want to know if having a larger or faster sd card helps it process faster? I mean, can the phone use the card as ram to help it process more,it is it more like a hard drive so just gives faster access to the programs loaded on the card?
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A Class 6 Card will make a small difference on your phone since you're running APPS2SD it'll be able to access information from your EXT partition faster than a Class 2/4 card.
There is Swapper (search in market)... Almost like a Page file for windows. You can also set the Swap file to be on your EXT partition so when you mount your sdcard it won't get corrupted, etc.

Has anyone done this.

[SOLVED; broken SD] ADP1 will not boot with any ext partition present on SD

Hi all,
A couple of days ago i decided to give my phone a completely fresh start, looking back i wish i never did. Here's my problem:
As soon as i create any ext partition on my SD card the phone will not boot past the splash screen. When i remove the partition all is well but i really love APPS2SD so this is not an option for me.
Here's some more info on my setup;
ADP1 (PVT 32B ENG S-OFF)
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (DREA10000)
CPLD-4
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
Running the latest cyanogen's recovery
Here's what i already tried (i know its a long read but please hang in there);
I formatted the SD card using a HTC Magic (as stated on cyanogens wiki that formatting on android 1.6 is preferred). Put signed-dream_devphone_userdebug-ota-14721.zip and update-cm-4.2.13-signed.zip on the SD and followed instruction to flash both in correct sequence. This works flawlessly, booting up with no issues at all. I then turned the phone off and put the microSD in my PC.
I then proceeded to shrink the FAT32 partition (Ubuntu GParted) to make room for the ext partition but not created this partition just yet for testing purposes. Put the SD card back in the phone and i boots up like a dream (no pun intended) running smooth as ever so the shrunk partition is still working great! Once again turned the phone off and put the SD back in my PC to create the ext partition and that's where the problems begin; as soon as ANY ext partition is present (i tried ext2, ext3 and ext4) the phone will not get past the splash screen!!
As soon as i remove this ext partition all works great once again! So then i figured i'd probably have to flash everything from scratch with the ext partition present but this gives me the same results every single time with ext2/3/4 partition present. I even gave Amon-RA's recovery a try with this same process, and even tried to create the partitions using that. No luck, same results every single time.
Now in the past i always used APPS2SD with a ext2 partition without any problems but now i am unable to just get it back to work!
I have a feeling that something goes all messed up somewhere in creating the ext partition but i just cant put my finger on it where, i've ben on this for 3 days now so any input would be very much appreciated!

maarten82 said:
Hi all,
A couple of days ago i decided to give my phone a completely fresh start, looking back i wish i never did. Here's my problem:
As soon as i create any ext partition on my SD card the phone will not boot past the splash screen. When i remove the partition all is well but i really love APPS2SD so this is not an option for me.
Here's some more info on my setup;
ADP1 (PVT 32B ENG S-OFF)
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (DREA10000)
CPLD-4
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
Running the latest cyanogen's recovery
Here's what i already tried (i know its a long read but please hang in there);
I formatted the SD card using a HTC Magic (as stated on cyanogens wiki that formatting on android 1.6 is preferred). Put signed-dream_devphone_userdebug-ota-14721.zip and update-cm-4.2.13-signed.zip on the SD and followed instruction to flash both in correct sequence. This works flawlessly, booting up with no issues at all. I then turned the phone off and put the microSD in my PC.
I then proceeded to shrink the FAT32 partition (Ubuntu GParted) to make room for the ext partition but not created this partition just yet for testing purposes. Put the SD card back in the phone and i boots up like a dream (no pun intended) running smooth as ever so the shrunk partition is still working great! Once again turned the phone off and put the SD back in my PC to create the ext partition and that's where the problems begin; as soon as ANY ext partition is present (i tried ext2, ext3 and ext4) the phone will not get past the splash screen!!
As soon as i remove this ext partition all works great once again! So then i figured i'd probably have to flash everything from scratch with the ext partition present but this gives me the same results every single time with ext2/3/4 partition present. I even gave Amon-RA's recovery a try with this same process, and even tried to create the partitions using that. No luck, same results every single time.
Now in the past i always used APPS2SD with a ext2 partition without any problems but now i am unable to just get it back to work!
I have a feeling that something goes all messed up somewhere in creating the ext partition but i just cant put my finger on it where, i've ben on this for 3 days now so any input would be very much appreciated!
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Your sd could be going bad.
Which version of Amon_Ra are you using?Try repartitioning your sdcard and try another rom like Super-D thats much faster and see where that gets you.

Ace42 said:
Your sd could be going bad.
Which version of Amon_Ra are you using?Try repartitioning your sdcard and try another rom like Super-D thats much faster and see where that gets you.
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Thank you for the very fast reply!
I'ver tried repartitioning multiple times with different partition sizes and i used the latest of Amon_RA's work (dream v1.5.2).
I will give Super-D a try just for kicks..
And before i forget, i also tried flashing with the defanged DRC83 base and older versions of cyanogens just to make sure without any luck. I also always double-check the MD5sums on all the files that get on my phone!

Ace42 said:
Your sd could be going bad.
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Well my friend, your first hunch appears to be correct! I've done some small experiments with the card - copying large files back/forth and checking integrity - and it appears that the card is indeed messed up! That's just one of those things i never seem to come up with myself!
I just came back from the store to buy a new cheap card, and even tho its only a class 2 everything formatted and installed without any problems including the APPS2SD! So i guess ill have to order myself a new card, bummer those things only last a year and a half as it appears, i guess ill just have to keep the receipt and get myself a new one under warranty every now and then......
Thanks a million for pointing me in the right direction!

maarten82 said:
Well my friend, your first hunch appears to be correct! I've done some small experiments with the card - copying large files back/forth and checking integrity - and it appears that the card is indeed messed up! That's just one of those things i never seem to come up with myself!
I just came back from the store to buy a new cheap card, and even tho its only a class 2 everything formatted and installed without any problems including the APPS2SD! So i guess ill have to order myself a new card, bummer those things only last a year and a half as it appears, i guess ill just have to keep the receipt and get myself a new one under warranty every now and then......
Thanks a million for pointing me in the right direction!
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I had that happen to my 8Gb, had it for about a year i think.

did you use 1.6 or did you format from Amon? Also, is i possible not to load "signed-dream_devphone_userdebug-ota-14721.zip". And just go download everything again from the market? Someone said I don't need that file? Where they trying to brick me?

surfereddie said:
did you use 1.6 or did you format from Amon? Also, is i possible not to load "signed-dream_devphone_userdebug-ota-14721.zip". And just go download everything again from the market? Someone said I don't need that file? Where they trying to brick me?
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I just formatted the card in a cardreader using Gparted, a FAT32 partition for the whole size of the card minus space for the EXT and swap partition (in my case 512+32Mb resp.). Don't know if it is mandatory but i also flagged the FAT32 boot and lba and it works brilliant for me!
I indeed used the devphone OTA update, but only do this is you have a ADP1... I guess you could probably mess up a normal G1 with that rom. Just follow instructions! Pick the correct 1.6 base rom for your phone (either defanged or the devphone version), flash it and without a reboot flash the latest cyanogens rom over the base, its all explained quite idiot-proof on cyanogens wiki.

ext2?, ext3?, swap?

ive got an N1 running CM-RC3 and the 5.08 radio
only things configured are facebook, gmail and hotmail
ive got an 8GB class 6 card...
as always, backup the card to my computer so i dont lose anything...
i want to learn more about the ext partitions and swap partitions
correct me at any time if im off base
from what ive read i can create the swap and ext from recovery and that when i creat the ext2 i should convert it to ext3 for even quicker acess?
and that when i enable the ability for moving apps from the phone to the sdcard, the phone will magically know to put them in the ext space?
can the ext be made bigger if needed?
i know before i wiped my phone and installed CM-RC3, i was using modaco r21, and i thought i had all apps moved to the SD-card but only had 24mb free on the phone...
and the swap could be used like more cache for the phone...
how much should i add? is it even needed?
and what ever i dont use for the ext and swap to make fat-32 for my access and files...

now im reading more and it looks like the ext partitions are actually pre-FROYO, and im thinking i dont need to worry about them?
what about the swap?

Well, CM6 does not support App2Ext out-of-box. You need to use a script like Darktremor App2SD to get this working, though you might have to modify the CM6 kernel to get this working fine. AFAIK, CM6.1 will support App2Ext alongside the Froyo App2FAT.
FYI, there is no magic in App2Ext... it simply links /data/app (where apps are installed) to a folder in the ext partition on your SD card.
Do you have a lot of widget/live wallpaper apps? If not, the FroYo App2FAT should do fine for you now. CM6 Setting has a feature to allow you to move any app to 2 FroYo Apps2FAT partition.
As far as swap is concerned, I doubt it would be useful for the N1, considering the relatively decent RAM (it's good enough for everything for now). Swap was very useful for the older phones like the G1 which has very little RAM. I doubt you'd notice any difference if you added a swap partition.