HTC Sense 2.5 with working slideo-out keyboard? - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development

Hi, I wanted to know if there are *any* Sense 2.5 roms where the slide-out keyboard actually works? As in the screen automatically landscapes...When I flip out the keyboard from the home screen, All I get is a black screen, same thing goes when I slide out the keyboard from the messages tab. I am dying to use Sense 2.5 but I cannot if it isn't truly adaptive to the Rhodium. Also is there *anyway* to get the "People Tab" from Sense 2.5 to work on Manila 2.1? thanks...

Okay so from what I been told before and what has been said from the senior members developing the roms the we use now is that htc did not make 2.5 with landscape mode except for the music and pictures tab. 2.5 was not made for the tp2 but for the leo. Its been ported to our phones along with our roms. Read the description of the roms and they will tell you flat out if they are using 2.1 or 2.5
With that said the is a developer who has been working on a 2.5 landscape hack and it is functional. Now it is not perfect as he says but it does work.
Go to the applications section to check it out yourself.

It's been asked and answered many, many times. Manila 2.5/SenseUI does not support landscape. Rotastrain has very cleverly and time consumingly made it possible and certainly mostly functional by installing the cab in his thread here. It is definitely usable, but as SuperM1887 stated, it's not perfect. However, I believe we can expect updates.

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Manila?

SO...here i am...another newbie with another question which probably has been answered a thousand times... what can you do...
Anyway...just had to hard reset my HTC Touch Diamond and thought that maybe i should freshen it up a bit...ive read that there is a "new" update for touch flo...is it called manila or am i misinformed?
And how the hell am i supposed to install it on my precious mobile?
Is there a thread with a tutorial? Would greatly appreciate it if anyone could answer these questions...feel free to call me newb or slow!
TF3D...
Manila is HTC's 'project' name for TF3D (TouchFlo 3D). You can't officially get a newer version of TF3D without updating your ROM. Having said that, there are some manila mods knocking around this forum, but they're taken from Touch HD, or Touch Diamond 2 (work in progress).
The best thing to do is just make sure you're using a recent ROM, either official or cooked - that way you'll get the latest manila. It won't be any different than the one your device came with, though it may respond better (ie. faster)
Read the 'Themes, applications and software' & 'Diamond ROM development' forums, they will give you the most information
wiki - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ for all such info
thx a lot guys! i just downloaded the ROM update from the support page...
it actually feels a little smoother now! and finally a good solution to the answer and hang up buttons when the phone rings... hated to hang up when the phone isnt out of the pocket yet

TF3D Landscape Mode

Hi there
Can we have this landscape theme on our fuzes? This is from a blackstone.
I think the landscape mode that comes with the most roms is not useful. it will be good if we can have a landscape mode with the same funtionality as portrait mode.
Have U tryed SEARCH function ?
I did it ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=491774
Or the one in my signature, 12
Don't get your link!!
eddieul said:
Have U tryed SEARCH function ?
I did it ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=491774
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I for one would like a landscape as depicted, I don't understand why you pointed to NRG's ROM I know he is working on the Manila 2 with others but I haven't seen anything like this before.
That landscape is from the new rhodium (TP2) and Tapaz (D2) manila It isn't finished yet. Xbox, DHarvey and myself and a couple of others are working our ass off to get it finished. NRG's ROM has a preview of that manila (unfinished. So take that or check this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475557
I did search for hours and nothing. what i want is a landscape theme where you can read your sms, have the music functionality with the album cover, a calendar, programs tab, etc. just like portrait mode.
crlnd132 said:
I did search for hours and nothing. what i want is a landscape theme where you can read your sms, have the music functionality with the album cover, a calendar, programs tab, etc. just like portrait mode.
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The post above yours explains it
Sigh..... I'm so not surprised....
crlnd132 said:
I did search for hours and nothing. what i want is a landscape theme where you can read your sms, have the music functionality with the album cover, a calendar, programs tab, etc. just like portrait mode.
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you must be dumber than Sarah Palin. That's TF3D2 on the Blackstone which was ripped from the new Rhodium ROM and it currently being ported to VGA. If you want to try it out then you can flash NRG's new ROM.
This is a good example of asking a question which has plentifully been answered. Still I think it's better to ignore it than bashing the TS, I'm sure in time he'll learn to search properly and we don't have to waste our time on these things.
ericino said:
This is a good example of asking a question which has plentifully been answered. Still I think it's better to ignore it than bashing the TS, I'm sure in time he'll learn to search properly and we don't have to waste our time on these things.
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Don't forget that some users might still find these topics helpfull, like me for example. I find this forum very difficult to get through, to find the information I need (since some topics count over 70 pages). The search function doesn't give me good results either. I've had a TYTNII for a year, and I never understood why the manila2d couldn't be done in landscape mode.
<--- "That's TF3D2 on the Blackstone which was ripped from the new Rhodium ROM and it currently being ported to VGA. If you want to try it out then you can flash NRG's new ROM" --->
The above made me realize that it's because of ripping/porting that manila-landscape still doesn't exist for tytnII nor for raphael (my new phone).
Anyway, I'll get to the point. I don't think it's a waste of time to reply to these sort of questions, just lock the topic afterwards. It's not always because of a noob not able to find the search function. We're not all rocket scientists you know .
EDIT: And now I think of it, what's the pain replying on a topic which will probably cost you about 4 seconds of your life?
enough bashing for the poor fellow?
if you don't want to flash another rom, there's a cab i found a while back that has something like that and is installable as a cab file.
check this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409060
rhodium manila port
maybe I'm missing something glaringly obvious, but if you're interested in getting the the landscape mode to look like the portrait, go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493531
As mentioned in some of the other responses, it is the rhodium version of manila (aka touch flo) that has been ported to the touch pro (aka Raphael). It works on most ROMs to my knowledge including stock ROMs. Currently, XBMod is working on porting the Topaz version of manila to the touch pro (see link). It works wonderfully on the Alltel touch pro, which is what I have. Hope this helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493531
This is the new touchflo 3D 2. has all the lanscape things you want

Manila 2.5 BETA with standard WinMo messaging?

I LOVE the new Manila 2.5 i think its a step in the right direction but theres a problem.
The messaging application with it is riddled with bugs i am persistently having to soft-reset in order to sort it out. At the moment im working around problems by always creating a new SMS when i need to send them but its extremely awkward.
So heres the question, is it possible to cook a ROM with the standard WinMo messaging application instead of the new Manila 2.5 one?
Can i get a show of support and if its possible maybe we can see some/a Manila 2.5 ROM with standard WinMo messaging app.
P.S. If im cluttering up this forum and this should be somewhere else move it/lock it and tell me
I never tried it. But I think they might be dependent on each other.
I am by no means a chef and dont know much about that side of things but i would think it was possible.
If they are dependent on each other, then no. Unless we use a patched version of 2.5, but then the functionality wont be the same.
I do not think they need each other to work. HTC Message works well with no TF3D or TF3D2.1 so I am guessing arcsoft will work with 2.5
I have not had a chance to try it yet but it is on my list so I will soon.
There is already a solution for this ...
I use the Energy Rom Genesis with 2.5 Manila WM 6.5
After that I followed this little tutorial:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556614&page=1
I SMS trough the WM SMS function, without using the HTC software for it...

What's with the manila rotation?

Why did it suddenly disappear from all the ROMs?
Even Rota's has only photo and music rotation, AFAIK
Landscape on LEO manila 2.5 is not fully implemented by HTC, the cooks are unable to fix that. Only the photo and music tab supports it at the moment.
If you need landscape, there's a CAB for landscape SMS in Leo or go for a manila 2.1.
I'm sorry, but how many times have people been over this? HTC didn't implement landscape mode into Manila 2.5, except for Music and Photos tab. And even then, it ONLY works with phones that have a G-Sensor, so not the X1.
madindehead said:
I'm sorry, but how many times have people been over this? HTC didn't implement landscape mode into Manila 2.5, except for Music and Photos tab. And even then, it ONLY works with phones that have a G-Sensor, so not the X1.
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So it's an issue that came with the 2.5? I know I'm looking dumb but I want to fully understand this and I suppose there are others like me that are confused.
It was in 2.1 but not in 2.5? We should wait for HTC to do that?
cykalu said:
Landscape on LEO manila 2.5 is not fully implemented by HTC, the cooks are unable to fix that. Only the photo and music tab supports it at the moment.
If you need landscape, there's a CAB for landscape SMS in Leo or go for a manila 2.1.
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As for G-Sensor, G-Spot should cover that but there still remain all the other tabs.
In the end, is patience the answer of my problems?
HTC ONLY does Manilla rotation for its keyboarded devices.... so until there is a release of Manilla for a Leo Pro, they'll be no oem rotation in the latest Leo builds of Manilla.
IMO, just another reason to ditch inefficient Manilla for either PointUI, or SPB
Ersill said:
So it's an issue that came with the 2.5? I know I'm looking dumb but I want to fully understand this and I suppose there are others like me that are confused.
It was in 2.1 but not in 2.5? We should wait for HTC to do that?
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It's not an issue. It simply isn't supported. There isn't any need for it yet, as the HTC HD2 (Leo) doesn't have a slide out keyboard. So there is no need for a landscape home screen really. There is landscape support on the music and photo tabs, as some people may like to browse their photos and music that way.
When/if HTC decide to put Manila 2.5 on a Pro device with a keyboard, then we might see landscape mode for the other tabs. As of yet, there is nothing, and there will be nothing until HTC make it so.
It is not a bug, it is not an issue. HTC didn't make it yet, as the HD2 doesn't need it.
the interesting point is that I still can not find a ROM with manila 2.1 which has no bug .... because it's very important for me to be able to rotate the screen in manila ....
energy ROM has some bug with sms botton ... I've got really confused ....
ashkan_mc said:
the interesting point is that I still can not find a ROM with manila 2.1 which has no bug .... because it's very important for me to be able to rotate the screen in manila ....
energy ROM has some bug with sms botton ... I've got really confused ....
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Tell me about getting confused, there are several roms with 2.1 manila that has full support on landscape, if it didnt have, then the cook hsa done a error (unlikely) or its disabled by the cook (rather unlikely too)
But a bugfree rom will only be a reality in your dreams im afraid, cause there is no such thing. Not from us, or HTC nor SE..
I have not tested other chefs roms in here with manila 2.1, but mine sure do have landscape
ashkan_mc said:
the interesting point is that I still can not find a ROM with manila 2.1 which has no bug .... because it's very important for me to be able to rotate the screen in manila ....
energy ROM has some bug with sms botton ... I've got really confused ....
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Which ROM did you try?
I´ve had at least 3 which are stable - and if there is something you might perceive as a bug, it is often related to another application and/or setting I did or had to do myself.
There are quite a few Manila 2.1 based ROM´s today which you can try, with WinMo 6.1 or even 6.5 "underneath".
BTW, the worst ROM I ever had was the stock ROM. Shame on SE.
itje said:
Tell me about getting confused, there are several roms with 2.1 manila that has full support on landscape, if it didnt have, then the cook hsa done a error (unlikely) or its disabled by the cook (rather unlikely too)
But a bugfree rom will only be a reality in your dreams im afraid, cause there is no such thing. Not from us, or HTC nor SE..
I have not tested other chefs roms in here with manila 2.1, but mine sure do have landscape
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thanks for your answer ... yes I just found several ROMs with manila 2.1 and there is no problem with rotation ... but for example one of them use a lot of RAM (60%) , one of them has some problem with sms ...
for this reason I overlook manila 2.5 ... and I think energy ROM up to now is the best choice ...
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Which ROM did you try?
I´ve had at least 3 which are stable - and if there is something you might perceive as a bug, it is often related to another application and/or setting I did or had to do myself.
There are quite a few Manila 2.1 based ROM´s today which you can try, with WinMo 6.1 or even 6.5 "underneath".
BTW, the worst ROM I ever had was the stock ROM. Shame on SE.
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thanks dude ... just could you plz introduce me these 3 ROMs ? right now I install energy ROM (21 Oct version) and I think it is the best ... although it doesn't have delivery choice ...

Handwriting and Manila 2.5 ROMS

Can anyone tell me if there is a ROM like the Energy ROMS by NRGZ28 that still have the handwriting option in the Touch screen input selector? I really like the speed and features of NRGZ28's ROM's and so far they work great but I would dearly love to have the handwriting input again as I find it hard to see without my reading glasses... Or maybe someone knows of a CAB file to download to add this option?
Thanks in advance...
Regards Ismael
For the Letter and Block Recognizer you can check out this cab file
Also for Transcriber (only for English) you can check out this cab file
Thanks for that but just in case anyone else is interested I also had to load another cab called enableRecognizers as well. Thanks a million great to have it back again.
Regards Ismael...
Well it worked for one trial. The next day I tried and it kept dropping back to Touch input. When I go to Options and select letter or block recogniser and then click options button it says the recogniser could not be loaded... I tried reinstalling but didn't help. I tried a soft reset and also turning off the phone and back on but no joy... I loaded Transcriber (didn't see it until I submitted this post) and that works. Will wait and see what happens from here...
Regards Ismael
Thankxxx is a must!!
many many thx for this cab I have been using the P990i for a 3 years and I'm still exploring this new world of Xperia since 2~3 months, the first reason I insist on buying it even though that many new models shown in the market is this great forum...
With such posts I become more and more familiar with the wonderful to tell X1..
Long lives XDA..
Hi all, as an update to this post for those that are interested. I mentioned that was using energy ROMs in my X1a, I found that if I use 23xxx roms even Transcriber wouldn't function properly. I also found that using 23xxx roms caused other issues with different apps as well. Using the 21911 Roms my X1 is quicker and the handwriting works okay. Seems that my particular X1 doesn't like 23xxx versions.
Pays to test a few different ROMs when problems arise even of the same variant or version. Also I run IGO8 and on the MaxSense ROM in landscape mode it was full screen and on Standard Energy 2/3 screen and Cookie Sense full screen also.
Regards Ismael
Just some feedback from my experience up to now.
Hi to everyone, I am tracking the topic and the issues of transcriber and letter recognizer reported. FYI I am using now Energy 23xxx Dinik Glass july 24th version and both input methods are running like a charm. Moreover they were also working great in july 10th version of the same rom and in the past while using many of valkyrie roms no issue there at all. Really I do not understand why you guys have problems with them...

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