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Is anyone successing using the Kaiser with a Slingbox? I have the latest version of the SB Mobile software that is supposed to run on WM6 but it's very unstable and crashes constantly. I did determine that running Wisbar Advanced would make it crash every time it tried to connect, but shutting that down before starting the program only slightly improved it's stability. I generally can connect and watch video, but any menu options will crash it, as will trying to disconnect and connect again. The Slingbox folks are no help at all, they say the Tilt is not a supported phone (what the heck is WM6 support supposed to mean then??) I'm using the stock HTC ROM, nothing custom or fancy that should be causing problems.
I have a Kaiser/unlocked TyTN II. Works fine for me. There have been some with browser proxy issues. Do a search on this forum for details.
Works great on my Tilt and has from day 1. Try a hard reset and only install SP mobile to isolate your issue. It's likely another piece of software causing the problem.
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I have a Kaiser/unlocked TyTN II. Works fine for me. There have been some with browser proxy issues. Do a search on this forum for details.
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I did search the forum for any comments on sling player, but didn't find much more than a couple mentions of it, only person mentioning a problem was on a thread about the WIMP GPS tracking program. Not sure what you are referring to about a browser proxy issue, what browser?
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Works great on my Tilt and has from day 1. Try a hard reset and only install SP mobile to isolate your issue. It's likely another piece of software causing the problem.
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Aggh, I have been through so many stinking hard resets with this device so far, I just can't stand wasting yet another day trying to reinstall everything *again*. It just seems like every program I attempt to put on it causes something else to break. And I've tried very hard to only install stuff that is stated to work for WM6. But no matter, I have these constant issues all the time. If it's not crashes, it's email failing to check or alarms not going off, or the time not updating properly or whatever. It's really getting frustrating, why is it so freaking hard for Microsoft to write an OS that *works*?! Between Window Mobile and Vista, it's a wonder that more people haven't jumped ship at this point.
Wow, sorry it's been so agro. I can say that I have one of the first out Kaisers, running Sling Mobile and a slew of other progs, Wimp, iGuidance, Google Maps, MS Live, ContactsCM, PocketInformant, JournalBar, and my SlingBox has never hung. I've not hard reset yet and seldom soft reset. So I know that it can work, you need to start out with a fresh install and add 1 thing a time till you find the problem progs. One of them is messing with you, and unfortunately you've got to find it, one fricking app at a time.
Well, hard-resetting did make the SlingPlayer run flawlessly. I've been slowing adding stuff back on over the last day but have yet to run into whatever it was that was causing the problem. I was hoping it would be something obvious, so I could just restore from backup and not have to spend a lot of time on this, but of course, I couldn't be that lucky and have to put hours of work into it....
I tend to back up a lot as I add apps and test (I prefer SBP Backup), kinda like setting restore points in windows, just in case that last straw app trashes things. Seems the shell progs cause the most issues.
I generally do as well...in this case though the last app I installed *was* the Slingbox Player, so going back to earlier backups wouldn't necessarily save me any time.
I see, I always load Sling 1st then Core player and go from there.
My slingbox wasn't currently connected and running, so I hadn't bothered to download and load the mobile player yet. I don't even have it registered yet, as on my old phone, I never got a good enough connection to get much use out of it. It definitely flies on this phone though!
I'm beginning to wonder if it was simply the order of install that made the difference, as I have all but a couple things reinstalled and it still is working fine. Had one lock-up yesterday from trying to go to fullscreen and back again, but it's definitely far more stable than I was getting before.
I must say as well, this player really blows any other internet TV options out the window! The playback quality really is awesome and being able to watch my own favorite shows at any time is so cool. I never got a ton of use from the Slingbox in the past because a lot of times when I travel I just didn't have access to a good high-speed connection, I'm glad I will finally really be getting some good use out of it. Only problem is that I have the classic model that has these crappy mini-jack inputs with input only (no video pass-through) and I don't have enough outputs on my Tivo as a result to connect everything that I use at once. So I'm trying to decide if it's worth paying to upgrade to a new Slingbox or not. I would guess that the Slingbox Solo would also do a better job with all the HD stuff and correct the aspect a bit better (with the classic, the image is always a bit squished).
Well, haven't quite solved my Sling Player Mobile issues. It seems to work fine over 3G, but crashes every time if I try to connect over my home Wifi connection. Anyone else seeing this? I'd prefer to use the Wifi when available to not overuse the phone service too much (not sure if AT&T really is monitoring this, but no point in testing it if I don't have to!)
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It's really getting frustrating, why is it so freaking hard for Microsoft to write an OS that *works*?! Between Window Mobile and Vista, it's a wonder that more people haven't jumped ship at this point.
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It is easy to point the finger at Microsoft but the fact is that your problems are almost certainly caused by one or more applications you installed which were not well written and are causing resource conflicts.
You may recall a few years ago when Microsoft went to a signed driver model. Lots of people complained about it, especially companies that produce hardware. But what did we get for it? Fewer crashes and resource conflicts caused by driver incompatabilities. If the mobile world would develop some standards in development and testing the problems you are seeing would become less frequent and easier to resolve.
Is Microsoft perfect? HA! Far from it. But make sure you are pointing the finger at the real culprit.
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It is easy to point the finger at Microsoft but the fact is that your problems are almost certainly caused by one or more applications you installed which were not well written and are causing resource conflicts
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Sorry, but this I feel is just a convenient excuse. Yes, you can occasionally run into a really badly written app that causes problems, but I'm talking about constant issues, and I am using all programs that are very mainstream and heavily used by many other PPC users. I used Palm devices for many years and never had the kinds of problems I've had with Windows Mobile devices. And these are problems it's had for YEARS. My very first Pocket PC device (HP Jornada) many years ago had issues with waking up and sounding alarms. Here I am years later, and this *still* is a problem. Look at all the people complaining about the device not waking up to check email. You really want to try and say it's due to something else they have installed that's causing the problem? Come on.
Can I ask a question to you guys about what sort of frames per second you are getting. I am sitting here with my TYTN 2 getting about 8 FPS on Hsdpa full signal. Any thoughts on why the FPS might be so low?.
Many thanks.
Matt.
I have had a look about on the net and the seetings that seem to be the best are 65 bitrate ,full FPS, 30 iframe. I am now getting a good 24 FPS. I hope this helps someone.
Matt.
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Sorry, but this I feel is just a convenient excuse. Yes, you can occasionally run into a really badly written app that causes problems, but I'm talking about constant issues, and I am using all programs that are very mainstream and heavily used by many other PPC users. I used Palm devices for many years and never had the kinds of problems I've had with Windows Mobile devices. And these are problems it's had for YEARS. My very first Pocket PC device (HP Jornada) many years ago had issues with waking up and sounding alarms. Here I am years later, and this *still* is a problem. Look at all the people complaining about the device not waking up to check email. You really want to try and say it's due to something else they have installed that's causing the problem? Come on.
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I am Sorry, that YOU loaded something that didn't come with your product and it broke.
Out of the Box my Tilt checks email. Vanilla JUST about everything works as advertised. Does the Tilt have bugs ? Sure everything has bugs.
Using a password and coming out of suspend the back-light is DIM. Completely unreadable in sunlight. Not an OS issue as other WM6 devices didn't have this problem.
Microsoft has a responsibility to make this OS robust. I think they have come along way since 2003, WM5, moving toward WM6. As for Palm there have been multiple version of their OS mostly geared toward PDA's.
Every OS has issues thats why we get new versions.
If I load something that isn't from Microsoft and it breaks, how is that a WM6 fault ? All blame aside do you really expect Microsoft (or anyone else) to regression test every possible version and combination of application out there so YOU will be happy. I am guessing here but I don't believe Microsoft will show up and fix it, nor will HTC. YOU get to fix it
Slingplayer isn't perfect. There have been multiple versions since the beta all aimed at refining their product.
I use it, and like it, so much so that if an app breaks Slingplayer I remove that app not Slingplayer. Others may feel the same way about a Wishbar or an SPB product. If an application is considered CORE that should go in first warts and all.
I installed Microsoft Live search with beta voice support. Cool app like Google maps. It locked up my device hard, twice, and I had to stylus reset to recover. Was it this beta or something else that didnt play nice? I removed the 'not ready for prime time' search application and all is well.
Any application that hooks API's and interrupts in an attempt to supplement and extend functionality is suspect.
That Tilt is a very complex little product. If you are striving to improve its functionality beyond what came in the box, it will be up to you to strike a balance as to what works for you.
Frustrating, at times....
Fun, it can be. I didn't spend hundreds of dollars to be eternally pissed off.
And when it stops being fun and or productive maybe a different OS or closed venue like the iPhone might be a better way to go.
These forums are here to help. We are trying to look for solutions to make these products as cool as they can be.
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I am Sorry, that YOU loaded something that didn't come with your product and it broke.
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Wow, you must be some kind of magician to just come to that conclusion. I have had PPC devices that did NOT work as advertised out of the box. My last one never was able to properly connect with Wifi. I did a hard reset all the way back to nothing but the core apps and it still had problems. The manufacturer blamed it on my router (even though my laptop and Palm device previously had no issues) but I still went out and got another router...and still had problems.
Out of the Box my Tilt checks email.
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Gee, aren't you lucky then. The fact that it works for you does not therefore mean it works for everyone else, particularly since there are many different types of email servers that it needs to connect properly to. With the HTC home app running and nothing else whatsoever installed on my Tilt, I had issues with it checking email.
Microsoft has a responsibility to make this OS robust.
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Exactly...and from where I stand, they've not made as much progress in this area as they need to.
If I load something that isn't from Microsoft and it breaks, how is that a WM6 fault ?
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As you JUST said above, they have a responsibility to make the OS robust. If it was a matter of a single app causing a problem, that's one thing. But it's not, it's a problem with the Windows Mobile platform. How many times do you see on this forum people told they will need to hard-reset their device because of a problem? That's just absurd. If I had to reformat my desktop every time it started misbehaving because of something new I installed, I'd be up in arms!
All blame aside do you really expect Microsoft (or anyone else) to regression test every possible version and combination of application out there so YOU will be happy.
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This is just an absurd statement. I don't expect them to regression test every combination of apps on Windows XP, but I also expect if I install something it's not going to bring my entire system to a crashing halt. But even if it does, on those very rare occasions if you are using legitimate software, at least I have a system restore point to get my device back to a working state, or can boot into safe mode to remove the offending program, etc. Where is the similar type of functionality for Windows Mobile?? Oh, I have to get a 3rd party app like Sprite Backup for that kind of thing. Of course, I had issues with that crashing on me as well (only some of the backup options work).
Slingplayer isn't perfect. There have been multiple versions since the beta all aimed at refining their product.
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Well, I've gone as far as hard-resetting the device and installing ONLY SlingPlayer and it still crashed on me when trying to connect over Wifi. So who do I blame for that one? If I have nothing else on my device other than the core apps and SlingPlayer and it still doesn't work for me and it works for other people, what then??
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Well, I've gone as far as hard-resetting the device and installing ONLY SlingPlayer and it still crashed on me when trying to connect over Wifi. So who do I blame for that one? If I have nothing else on my device other than the core apps and SlingPlayer and it still doesn't work for me and it works for other people, what then??
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So you've had issues with WM devices connecting via Wifi before? Does it work on someone else's Wifi network?
Which version of Slingplayer are you using? When you say it crashes, does it actually crash or just closes itself?
Also, the HTC Home plugin should have zero effect on checking email.
You can blame the software/hardware, but I don't think there are any other users having so many unique issues. Maybe WM isn't for you?
I'm on the edge of pulling the trigger for a NC. Since the NC was never intended to be a full fledge tablet I'm sure there are some annoyances from you rooted users. Once you get everything setup what are the cons? I have a rooted Samsung Vibrant running ClockWork on Team Whiskey, Nero ROM. What I'm reading I don't think I will go to Froyo since it is definitely usable but I get annoyed by such things like having to turn on/off screen to fix screen lag. I will most likely just keep it rooted from stock. The reason I'm interested in it is:
Lightweight, small form factor
Great resolution
Of course price.
I have two gripes:
1. No physical back button
2. Adhoc wifi requires turning on/off wifi
Both of these are hardware issues and not related to rooting.
I don't use the in-store feature so not having that doesn't bother me.
Do it, you can always unroot.
Magically transmitted across the interwebs by my kickass NookColor!
Just want to clarify, don't have a NC yet. Don't want to buy it as an ereader.
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I have two gripes:
1. No physical back button
2. Adhoc wifi requires turning on/off wifi
Both of these are hardware issues and not related to rooting.
I don't use the in-store feature so not having that doesn't bother me.
Do it, you can always unroot.
Magically transmitted across the interwebs by my kickass NookColor!
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I don't know that the lack of physical back button bothers me, it has a built in gesture for back (swipe to the left on the menu bar) so it's not really a limitation, more a preference thing. The only real downside I've seen is lack of in-store features. There are some issues with the root, mainly some market issues where for some reason all of the programs don't show up. I used the NC for a couple of weeks in stock form and then decided to root, definitely worth it just for the sake of getting a browser with multi-touch enabled. However, I read a lot so that factors into how much I like it.
If you're just using it as an android tablet, it's really good. No GPS, no cameras, no 3g connection, but other than that it's fast with the best screen I've seen on a tablet and is just the right size. My phone has a 5mpx camera, 720p video and GPS and I have it on me all the time, so no need for any of that in a tablet. It also acts as a hotspot, so no need for 3g on the tablet. It's a perfect compliment to a decent smartphone.
If you love to tinker there's no cons. (and if you want a back button, Autonooter comes with Soft Keys that'll put one on the screen for you)
Despite the time it took to learn how to do it, and what to do with it afterwards, I got what I paid for and more. I love to learn and troubleshoot, so rooting this device has been a real treat.
At the moment I have a fully functional tablet that I use quite often around the house and at work. It's a convenient browser (I use Opera Mobile which has pinch zoom and slightly better page rendering than the build in browser), a quick source of the news thanks to a program included in the Autonooter kit, and a useful quick-note taking device.
I'll admit, my primary use for it is browsing, but when you root this thing, you can use any browser you want. I use Opera, but Skyfire and Dolphin HD are also good.
In addition to that, it makes a great portable movie player. The built in player supports MP4 and one other format, but if you root it, you can download Rock Player and play most commonly used video formats.
It's Youtube performance is excellent too, and there's quite a few Youtube video downloaders available in case you want to save your favorites to the SDCard.
Speaking of that, you will want to buy an SDCard. It doesn't come with one, and you might want more than the 5GB free of space you get out of the box.
All in all, it's pretty much a computer, and once you learn how to do everything to liberate it from it's shackles, there's no limit to what you can do with it.
As a tablet, it is awesome, and only getting more so. Lets be real - its GPU is the same as the Droid X, and is not the most perful on the market. Tegra 2 (and one or two others) will soundly beat it, but at a price. Cheaper T2 platforms tend (so far) to have horrible screens, poor battery life, and are large. Other devices like the Tab, just are way over priced.
I think the nook has struck an excellent ballance. It has an excellent CPU, a capable GPU, plenty of ram, and one of the best looking screens out there. I love its form factor (the bezel is one of few NON ugly ones out there), handling, and capabilities, and the price is excellent ($250).
It is also really getting a community behind it, and i think we will see in the near future, many more custom ROMS which speed things up, add features (bluetooth), and generally improve user experience. Right now is an exciting time to be a nook owner..
If you are not planning on reading you MUST buy a memory card. Many android apps are hard coded to look in /sdcard for things and can't read or write to the internal memory on the nook. Google earth is one example. This could probably be fixed by a developer in a custom rom.
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It is also really getting a community behind it, and i think we will see in the near future, many more custom ROMS which speed things up, add features (bluetooth), and generally improve user experience. Right now is an exciting time to be a nook owner..
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That was one of my main reasons for choosing it over the Archos 70. I think the fact that the NC provides such great bang for the buck and is available at retail outlets across the USA gives it the potential to have a much larger following than something like the A70.
Adding bluetooth functionality will complete this thing.
The only con I've really felt was no mic :/ there slapped in crappy 10 dollar mp3s but not a eReader for memos/notes (tho its not useful) I could see voice search for books valuable.
Obviously want it for Voip not memos, Bt will be a fix but still.
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Ditto to above. The lack of a Back button can be worked around, and really only comes into play while in certain apps that don't show the standard Nook status bar at the bottom. So you can't swipe. Using SoftKeys, and setup the right way, (see forum for more info on that), then you can change the Nook button to launch SoftKeys, which gives you the Back button, and also, as a bonus, a Task Switcher pops up at the same time.
The only drawback I see is that in order to have decent sized icons and text, you need to change the density of the screen. This is fine for everything except the built in Nook apps, like the Store and what-not. The reader itself is fine. It just cuts off some of the text, but it's still usable. Personally, I just use the Kindle app, anyway, and don't ever launch the Nook apps, so it's a non-issue for me.
EDIT: I also dearly want Bluetooth to work, so I can use my GPS and BT headphones. But at least there's a BT radio in the thing. Just need to get one of the wizards to get it working. Last I heard, it was working, but only to two feet. Give me 3 feet and I'll be happy. The lack of Flash is a real bummer, of course, but also to be fixed in an upcoming 2.2 release from B&N, or you could go and install 2.2 right now and boot from sd card. Apparently, it's working pretty well. And, the lack of a mic is a small bummer, but I'm also hoping a wizard will write a USB driver that will work with a webcam/mic. All do-able stuff. Just a little time needed.
As a tablet its great. It has shortcomings like others have said but you have to take into consideration that this hardware with an IPS screen for $250 is an absolute steal even considering those shortcomings.
I am a long-time Kindle user who recently got into the world of Android with my first smartphone purchase (HTC Aria). I have really fallen in love with Android, in large part due to the excellent community here at XDA. I had started looking for an Android Tablet and stumbled across all of the info about the Nook, after a week or two of research, I decided to just go for it. I figured if I bought it at Walmart, I would have at least 30 days to decide if I wanted to keep it... and even if I bricked it somehow, I don't think Walmart customer service would know the difference and would still refund my purchase. Well, I bought the Nook Wednesday morning, rooted immediately and ended up selling my Kindle Thursday night to a co-worker. This is the real deal and I would highly recommend it to anyone looking for an e-reader and tablet device, as long as they enjoy modifying it.
P.S. I haven't figured out why everyone feels the need to change the LCD density settings... everything looks great stock to my eye.
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2. Adhoc wifi requires turning on/off wifi
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Just curious, what are you using ad-hoc wireless for? I use my android phone as a wireless hot-spot to provide internet to my Nook all night at work, that works fine, but I'm guessing that's not really ad-hoc or what you were referring to anyway.
I dont care for bluetooth, gps, or webcam. It doesnt bother me that flash doesnt work. I have flash on my phone and frankly, flash just makes webite load longer and most flash is just ads. It was an ok device preroot, now its a cheap capable tablet. I use it more than my pc. The only major gripe i have is that the edges of the screen seems to not register as well as the middle. But its not a dealbreaker.
Thanks guys. Just got one and its great! I was a bit skeptical at first after seeing before the root. Good info!
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Just curious, what are you using ad-hoc wireless for? I use my android phone as a wireless hot-spot to provide internet to my Nook all night at work, that works fine, but I'm guessing that's not really ad-hoc or what you were referring to anyway.
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The issue with Ad-Hoc is that some devices can not connect to Ad-Hoc networks. They can only connect to Infrastructure mode WiFi networks.
So the problem presents itself when a rooted phone using a wireless tether app is only capable of sharing WiFi via a Ad-Hoc network (Motorola Droid). The Nook Color then can not see the Ad-Hoc network and is unable to connect.
So the Ad-Hoc WiFi fix allows the Nook Color to see and connect to Ad-Hoc networks as well as Infrastructure networks.
If you have a newer phone, like the Droid X, I believe those phones transmit WiFi via Infrastructure mode, so there is no problem connecting any device to it as all devices work with infrastructure mode.
I hope that all makes sense.
Yep, that explains it. I wasn't aware that older phones were using adhoc wifi. Is that a hardware limitation or a ROM limitation?
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Yep, that explains it. I wasn't aware that older phones were using adhoc wifi. Is that a hardware limitation or a ROM limitation?
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Hardware and software limitation, actually.
Most phones don't have a wifi chip capable of creating a true infrastructure-mode access point, but that is gradually changing. One of the reasons I bought an HTC Incredible is that it can.
But you also need tethering software that can use that mode. Newer versions of Wifi Tether can, for example, but older ones can't.
So, I bought a lapdock today at a local Verizon Wireless store because they are on sale for $50.
I got home, used it for about 3-4 hours, and cannot see myself ever using it for anything more than a charging station. You cannot run your own apps, except though a virtual 'mobile mode', where things run visually glitchy and the overall resolution is blurry since it is scaling it the image by a few pixels.
I am hoping that someone who uses this accessory can tell me that this has some other use other than browsing on Firefox. I am an IT professional, and multiple times during the week I have to go to client sites, and thought having this would be useful. If it just gives me Firefox (web browsing ability), then I can do that on one of the local computers
Thanks.
Also being in IT, I work a lot with terminal server environments via RDP. The sole reason I bought the lapdock was to access my company's and client's terminal servers from anywhere. I applied the webuntu mod to my device and installed rdesktop and tsclient. This gives me full access to administrate and maintain all of our servers from anywhere I happen to be.
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27245580[/URL]]Also being in IT, I work a lot with terminal server environments via RDP. The sole reason I bought the lapdock was to access my company's and client's terminal servers from anywhere. I applied the webuntu mod to my device and installed rdesktop and tsclient. This gives me full access to administrate and maintain all of our servers from anywhere I happen to be.
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It might be better if you setup a custom port in the client's firewall then just change the RDP port on the TS in the registry to that port. At any rate, we use a professional monitoring agent that handles remote connectivity for support, among other things (hardware alerts, update monitoring, etc.)
Sidenote, I am finding this very hard to type on. The keys must be pressed down hard, especially the spacebar and there is no delete key. I am typing this post on the lapdock right now, and it has taken over 5 minutes. I could have posted it in the same time using the XDA app.
I use my lapdock for a larger screen on the netflix app. Also, the dock works as a mobile hdmi monitor, so my brother uses it to play on his xbox in whatever room he wants.
Wow I never knew you could plug another HDMI source into it, that's awesome. Anyway, I use mine just for surfing the web and watching Netflix, but hopefully the ICS webtop brings some cool new features.
fn-backspace is your delete key.
In its current state, the webdock is only marginally useful. The firefox browser is glitchy and slow, and it seems to lock up and reboot pretty often. For $50 though, it is nice to have a full keyboard (using it now).
I guess I would say I bought it on somewhat of a gamble after seeing some of the previews of webdock 3.0 when Moto pushes ICS out to the Bionic. If it's slow and buggy, then I'm out $50 and still have a marginally decent keyboard and display. But, if it's decent, then it'll be $50 well spent.
But I really can't believe they sold these for $300 when they first came out. If you paid even half of that, then I truly feel sorry for you. The user experience is just downright frustrating.
+1 on the previous posts. I bought it because of the sale, but never would have at even $90. I'm trying to set up webtop to fart around with Ubuntu, and using the dock as an easier twitter keyboard at conferences until I get another tablet. After that, I'll prolly give it to my kid, who was unfortunate enough to have me buy him a Bionic as well.
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Last effing Moto phone, ever!
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Hey guys i Have a Samsung galaxy s2 (Which I love dearlyand am planning to go for some other phone(upgrade)! :cyclops: my friends suggested me to go for a LUMIA and i got convinced(Almost)...'Man Why Leave Android?'was the question That Pop-ed Up! in My head!!!.....
Should i Go for a Lumia Guys???Is It Worth The Money?
PLZZ sUggesT
ALL i want my Smart-Phone to do is :
Check Mail(Tons of 'em)
Stay connected to 3g/Wi-Fi Throughout The day
Hear Hours of Music!
And The Battery Should Last Me atleast 12 Hours of Heavy Usage!
So what do u Suggest!!!
Only you can answer that. In my opinion wp is the best phone / social hub out there. What it does out of the box is second to none, If you want to mod the crap out of a it and have what is essentially a pocket computer then it isn't perhaps what you want.
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Depending on your definition of "heavy usage" then it's quite possible that there is no smartphone which, out of the box, will meet it... but there's a huge difference between, say, playing an online game (CPU at full speed, GPU at full speed, screen on continuously, data on continuously, audio on continuously) and streaming music (data and audio, but not much else). My ATIV S can do the latter for 12 hours no problem (all day, if it's playing local music rather than streaming) and that's without turning off the automatic synch of six email accounts and a few other background tasks. Generally speaking, WP8 will be better about battery use than Android, although an Android phone that emphasized long battery life could still last longer than a Windows phone that does, all other things being equal.
Checking multiple mail accounts works very nicely. I keep them separate on my phone, but you can combine them if you want to.
Staying connected is no problem. WP8 does default to turning off WiFi while the phone is unplugged and the screen off, but you can override this behavior if you want to; otherwise, the switch between WiFi and cellular data is seamless anyhow.
Music is one of the main things I use my phone for; it works great. I mostly stream from Xbox Music (I have what used to be called a Zune Pass, which gives me all-you-can-eat music streaming and even downloading, valid for as long as you maintain the subscription) and the phone should come with a free trial of that service; Nokia also has their own music streaming service, plus there's apps for using third-party services (Pandora, etc.). Please do note that due to licensing BS, these services may or may not be available in your region; if you expect to use them, check first! In any case, just playing music off the internal storage or SD card works fine.
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Depending on your definition of "heavy usage" then it's quite possible that there is no smartphone which, out of the box, will meet it... but there's a huge difference between, say, playing an online game (CPU at full speed, GPU at full speed, screen on continuously, data on continuously, audio on continuously) and streaming music (data and audio, but not much else). My ATIV S can do the latter for 12 hours no problem (all day, if it's playing local music rather than streaming) and that's without turning off the automatic synch of six email accounts and a few other background tasks. Generally speaking, WP8 will be better about battery use than Android, although an Android phone that emphasized long battery life could still last longer than a Windows phone that does, all other things being equal.
Checking multiple mail accounts works very nicely. I keep them separate on my phone, but you can combine them if you want to.
Staying connected is no problem. WP8 does default to turning off WiFi while the phone is unplugged and the screen off, but you can override this behavior if you want to; otherwise, the switch between WiFi and cellular data is seamless anyhow.
Music is one of the main things I use my phone for; it works great. I mostly stream from Xbox Music (I have what used to be called a Zune Pass, which gives me all-you-can-eat music streaming and even downloading, valid for as long as you maintain the subscription) and the phone should come with a free trial of that service; Nokia also has their own music streaming service, plus there's apps for using third-party services (Pandora, etc.). Please do note that due to licensing BS, these services may or may not be available in your region; if you expect to use them, check first! In any case, just playing music off the internal storage or SD card works fine.
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Gee thanks guys.... But i dont do gamin in ma phone juz some lite gaming like temple run....and
i love photography
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Only you can answer that. In my opinion wp is the best phone / social hub out there. What it does out of the box is second to none, If you want to mod the crap out of a it and have what is essentially a pocket computer then it isn't perhaps what you want.
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Gee thanks guys.... But i dont do gamin in ma phone juz some lite gaming like temple run....and
i love photography
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If you love photography, you will go madly in love with a 920,925 or the beefier 1020(41mpx camera)
Yeah, if you want the best photos from your phone, then hands-down the 1020 is the device for you. It has a good battery life too. The performance should blow away your S2 as well.
Hi I am coming form a heavily used Note 2. As a business owner the Note 2 was my most important piece of equipment!!! Plus being always on the go it's flash video capabilities made being away from home easy. I never missed a basketball game or big fight. Watched them right on my phone. I remember being at a restaurant one Saturday night away from home and having the whole bar area crowd around my phone to watch a big fight. Pretty cool and useful. Unfortunately my Note 2 bit the dust and cant be fixed for reasonable money. Sprint store talked me into a Note 5 for my upgrade and contract renewal with a cheaper plan.
I was wondering if there are any ways to get similar apps or mods on my Note 5 Without rooting it. I am very dissapointed and feel like taking it back. Not impressed at all. Especially since I am out of pocket $200 and had to sign a 2 year plan. Maybe somebody can help or suggest some things. Or at least this can be a WARNING to potential buyers of the phones REAL LIFE CAPABILITIES AND LIMITS. Not some generic commercial hype or store sales pitch of since its a #5 it is better and does more things than the earlier numbered phones.
1. No live sports or new movie streams though web browsers
Lack of flash support ... I used flash websites to stream live sports or newer movies on my Note 2. I have downloaded the proper Adobe Flash version on the Note 5. I have also downloaded and enabled browsers like Firefox, Flash Fox, and Dolphin.
I have verified that flash is working. However, the sites for the live sports and movies DO NOT work. These sites all worked fine with the Note 2 stock browser.... Any other flash browser suggestions???? Anyway to download or install the Note 2 stock browser on Note 5?????
2. Mirroring. Watching EXACTLY what you see on your phone to a big TV.
All share Samsung data caster. I bought an expensive Samsung data caster that worked well to mirror my phone on to my living room TV.....Anyway to use this with my Note 5????? I don't see the option to on the phone.
Will a MHL cord to hdmi still mirror for a note 5??????
3. Using your internet and making a phone call at the same time.
Since I travel I use my phone as a modem for my laptop and computers....Tether... On my Note 2 with the PDA.net app it worked great. Was faster than any home internet I ever had. I could be on the phone and be browsing the web on my computer at the same time. It worked so well I cancelled my home ISP. It also came in handy even to just look things up on the phones internet while you were talking to clients.... I was VERY UPSET to find out that I can not do any of this on the Note 5. This is a major deal. I don't get this one at all. Any way to fix???????
4. Sound for music is not anything better.
5. Notifications and display are far less attention grabbing than on the Note 2. Easily miss texts or overlook them. The notification L.E.D.S are super WEAK.
6. My battery drains way faster! It does charge faster though. But I don't think this will be a good device to have where charging is not an option for a while.
7. You cant delete photos from the gallery... You have to open up the camera app to delete them... This seems so strange and pointless. Am I missing something here??????
Would appreciate any help or feedback on these issues. Thanks...
1. Not sure
2. Chromecast/Fire Stick, both work as I have personally tested this and both are available for under 50 dollars. (The screen mirroring option is in the quick toggles on your Note 5, mirrors everything on the screen not just compatible apps.)
3.Have not tested this
4. I think you need better headphones if you think it does not sound better.
5. Have not noticed this either
6. Disable unneeded apps, I am getting great battery life from mine.
7.QuickPic
whoamanwtf said:
1. Not sure
2. Chromecast/Fire Stick, both work as I have personally tested this and both are available for under 50 dollars. (The screen mirroring option is in the quick toggles on your Note 5, mirrors everything on the screen not just compatible apps.)
3.Have not tested this
4. I think you need better headphones if you think it does not sound better.
5. Have not noticed this either
6. Disable unneeded apps, I am getting great battery life from mine.
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Thanks for the info and response!!!!
2. I tried the the "quick connect" feature in the toggle down menu. IT WORKED with my DATA CASTER. I just don't like how it cuts the WI FI on too. i can live with that though. I now have mirroring without having to buy something else. Thanks!!!!
3. Yeah I have tested and confirmed with Sprint. Supposedly its a big deal and a lot of people are sending their phones back because of this. Literally just had a real life scenario where i needed to be on the phone and browse the web but couldn't..
4. I have $60 earbuds from Sienheiser. Maybe your ears work better or you have better head phones. I'm not willing to pay any more than $60 or buy another pair. They are less than a year old. But the sound is great. Just hard for my ears to pick up the difference. Both Note 2 and note 5 sound excellent though.
5. I also noticed that if you stay on a text message conversation screen and leave the screen on. . . . It will not ring or notify you if an additional text from that sender comes through. I don't like that at all. I want it to ring and vibrate for every text no matter what!
6. Can you clarify what you mean by disable????? Like delete???? Which ones did you get rid of????
7. I will look into QuickPic.....I'm guessing its an app in the play store?
Was your note 2 on lollipop? I have a feeling son of the things like notifications might be a lollipop thing not a note 5 thing
Go to your setting and adjust everything till it feels like your ideal phone.
If you're near wifi you can talk and be online at the same time l
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Was your note 2 on lollipop? I have a feeling son of the things like notifications might be a lollipop thing not a note 5 thing
Go to your setting and adjust everything till it feels like your ideal phone.
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No i didnt have lollipop. I tried and played with the notification settings. Those are more limited too. Using wifi isnt an option for me often because i cancelled my home isp because tethering was faster and more dependable.
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No i didnt have lollipop. I tried and played with the notification settings. Those are more limited too. Using wifi isnt an option for me often because i cancelled my home isp because tethering was faster and more dependable.
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just tried first row sports using the dolphin browser and dolphin jetpack, after a little tinkering and changing to desktop mode, auto enabling flash play it works on streaming sports with flash. Give that a go and let me know
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just tried first row sports using the dolphin browser and dolphin jetpack, after a little tinkering and changing to desktop mode, auto enabling flash play it works on streaming sports with flash. Give that a go and let me know
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I have tried first row sports. With no luck. Freezes after a second at best.
Are you able to go full screen?
What link is working for you?
What is Dolphin jetpack?
Thanks for the help!
Just an extension of dolphin browser in the marketplace. Give it a go
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Hi I am coming form a heavily used Note 2. As a business owner the Note 2 was my most important piece of equipment!!! Plus being always on the go it's flash video capabilities made being away from home easy. I never missed a basketball game or big fight. Watched them right on my phone. I remember being at a restaurant one Saturday night away from home and having the whole bar area crowd around my phone to watch a big fight. Pretty cool and useful. Unfortunately my Note 2 bit the dust and cant be fixed for reasonable money. Sprint store talked me into a Note 5 for my upgrade and contract renewal with a cheaper plan.
I was wondering if there are any ways to get similar apps or mods on my Note 5 Without rooting it. I am very dissapointed and feel like taking it back. Not impressed at all. Especially since I am out of pocket $200 and had to sign a 2 year plan. Maybe somebody can help or suggest some things. Or at least this can be a WARNING to potential buyers of the phones REAL LIFE CAPABILITIES AND LIMITS. Not some generic commercial hype or store sales pitch of since its a #5 it is better and does more things than the earlier numbered phones.
1. No live sports or new movie streams though web browsers
Lack of flash support ... I used flash websites to stream live sports or newer movies on my Note 2. I have downloaded the proper Adobe Flash version on the Note 5. I have also downloaded and enabled browsers like Firefox, Flash Fox, and Dolphin.
I have verified that flash is working. However, the sites for the live sports and movies DO NOT work. These sites all worked fine with the Note 2 stock browser.... Any other flash browser suggestions???? Anyway to download or install the Note 2 stock browser on Note 5?????
2. Mirroring. Watching EXACTLY what you see on your phone to a big TV.
All share Samsung data caster. I bought an expensive Samsung data caster that worked well to mirror my phone on to my living room TV.....Anyway to use this with my Note 5????? I don't see the option to on the phone.
Will a MHL cord to hdmi still mirror for a note 5??????
3. Using your internet and making a phone call at the same time.
Since I travel I use my phone as a modem for my laptop and computers....Tether... On my Note 2 with the PDA.net app it worked great. Was faster than any home internet I ever had. I could be on the phone and be browsing the web on my computer at the same time. It worked so well I cancelled my home ISP. It also came in handy even to just look things up on the phones internet while you were talking to clients.... I was VERY UPSET to find out that I can not do any of this on the Note 5. This is a major deal. I don't get this one at all. Any way to fix???????
4. Sound for music is not anything better.
5. Notifications and display are far less attention grabbing than on the Note 2. Easily miss texts or overlook them. The notification L.E.D.S are super WEAK.
6. My battery drains way faster! It does charge faster though. But I don't think this will be a good device to have where charging is not an option for a while.
7. You cant delete photos from the gallery... You have to open up the camera app to delete them... This seems so strange and pointless. Am I missing something here??????
Would appreciate any help or feedback on these issues. Thanks...
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1) You had an Android device from 2012. The internet and Google have since moved on to HTML5. Flash is dead. Very few OSs support flash anymore. This isn't a phone issue. The unfortunate issue is your websites still utilize flash which is dangerous and a battery hog. A lot of security flaws and too much memory usage.
2)DL AllCast from the Google Play store, it hacks into any casting device. I have an AppleTV (back when I used to be pro Apple) and I use it constantly. All your casting needs whether it's a movie, phone screen, music, gallery etc all at your fingertips.
3)This is a Sprint issue not a phone issue. Sprint uses CMDA technology which requires dual cellular radios in order to surf and talk. Every other carrier supports simultaneous voice and data. I have Verizon (also CDMA, but I have dual radios in my phone) and can do it with my phone. When the phones hit a particular carrier, they decide to upgrade the radios to do surf/talk. If they decide not to which Sprint did not. You can't. Some claim this is a way to keep they're network bandwidth higher. Its 2015, regardless the phone should be able to do it.
4) The Note 5 came with a lot of new audio support modes. One feature I would recommend is using adaptic. It recognizes your ears ability to sense particular frequencies and changes the sound to your ears which makes a lot of difference.
5) You change change your notification settings in the individual apps your speaking off. The LED notification can be adjusted to your liking within settings. If this doesn't work. You can always DL an app that uses your phones flash to flash when your getting a notification (I know, I know.... Like an iPhone but it works great).
6). Lollipop has not been kind to device batteries. A lot of unnecessary system processes and apps. There are other posts within the Note 5 category that will guide you on debloating and disabling those packages and apps to gain better performance. Again not a phone issue but a software issue. Android M (which these phones will be first in-line to get) will change a lot of the problems they created in Lollipop. The Note 5 is not the only phone that suffers from this problem. A lot of them do.
7) Yes you can, but its hidden behind a sub menu. Long press on the photo you want to delete and it will pop open the delete function in the top menu bar (see image attached)
Hope this all helps. I suggest dumping Sprint and coming to Verizon. While it's not cheaper. It certainly is much better. Speeds, tethering, and service pretty much everywhere.
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ok installed.
Same thing... Will play for a second then freezes with Link 2... Also will not go full screen. Tried mobile and desktop modes.
Are you able to watch for more than a few secs and @ full screen without freezing????
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1) You had an Android device from 2012. The internet and Google have since moved on to HTML5. Flash is dead. Very few OSs support flash anymore. This isn't a phone issue. The unfortunate issue is your websites still utilize flash which is dangerous and a battery hog. A lot of security flaws and too much memory usage.
2)DL AllCast from the Google Play store, it hacks into any casting device. I have an AppleTV (back when I used to be pro Apple) and I use it constantly. All your casting needs whether it's a movie, phone screen, music, gallery etc all at your fingertips.
3)This is a Sprint issue not a phone issue. Sprint uses CMDA technology which requires dual cellular radios in order to surf and talk. Every other carrier supports simultaneous voice and data. I have Verizon (also CDMA, but I have dual radios in my phone) and can do it with my phone. When the phones hit a particular carrier, they decide to upgrade the radios to do surf/talk. If they decide not to which Sprint did not. You can't. Some claim this is a way to keep they're network bandwidth higher. Its 2015, regardless the phone should be able to do it.
4) The Note 5 came with a lot of new audio support modes. One feature I would recommend is using adaptic. It recognizes your ears ability to sense particular frequencies and changes the sound to your ears which makes a lot of difference.
5) You change change your notification settings in the individual apps your speaking off. The LED notification can be adjusted to your liking within settings. If this doesn't work. You can always DL an app that uses your phones flash to flash when your getting a notification (I know, I know.... Like an iPhone but it works great).
6). Lollipop has not been kind to device batteries. A lot of unnecessary system processes and apps. There are other posts within the Note 5 category that will guide you on debloating and disabling those packages and apps to gain better performance. Again not a phone issue but a software issue. Android M (which these phones will be first in-line to get) will change a lot of the problems they created in Lollipop. The Note 5 is not the only phone that suffers from this problem. A lot of them do.
7) Yes you can, but its hidden behind a sub menu. Long press on the photo you want to delete and it will pop open the delete function in the top menu bar (see image attached)
Hope this all helps. I suggest dumping Sprint and coming to Verizon. While it's not cheaper. It certainly is much better. Speeds, tethering, and service pretty much everywhere.
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Thanks for all the info I really appreciate that!!!!!!:good:
1. Is 3 years really that long.... When you spend that much money for something i would expect to have that option. You don't have to use a or go on a flash site if you don't want to....Flash is alive and well. Like I had mentioned earlier, people who stream Live sports and recent movie releases are all still Flash sites. I do not know of one html5 site that live streams sports.... Would love to find one if its out there though
2. I got the stock app to work with my Samsung All share Data caster. It is really choppy though. Thanks I will give that one a try and see if its any better
3. Wow that makes me even angrier with Sprint. i have tried to go to Verizon and t-mobile. They both have said stick with Sprint. My bills would be over twice as much with them because they don't do true unlimited Data like sprint does. Even when they do offer it, they bottleneck and slow your speed down once you reach a certain amount of data... My data usage makes Sprint my only choice and the fastest for me.
4. Will try thanks!!!!!
5. Note 5 has that from factory. I have it turned on. but in the day light the white flash is not to visible. Also, not visible when the phone is screen up. I have played with the settings. The notification LED just isn't that bright, big, flashes frequent enough to work as well as the older one. The Flash notification though is super helpful at night or in the dark.
6. If I keep the phone I will look into that. However, I find all the battery life claims with factory settings....auto screen brightness, keeping all apps closed, with just normal daily use to be terrible. I find it hard to believe that getting rid of the bloat-ware will take it form terrible to acceptable, but i'll take your word for it ... I hope so.
7. No attached image is showing for me????? I tried tapping and holding the pic and nothing is happening.......still only gives the option to share.
I think dolphin browser still works with flash. you will have to find the flash apk download though.
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ok installed.
Same thing... Will play for a second then freezes with Link 2... Also will not go full screen. Tried mobile and desktop modes.
Are you able to watch for more than a few secs and @ full screen without freezing????
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trying to get the soccer streams to work isn't working for myself, but I was always able to get UFC to stream and NFL/CFL when I would try. I'll let you know later on if it works for me, might just be the streams are crap too.
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Thanks for all the info I really appreciate that!!!!!!:good:
1. Is 3 years really that long.... When you spend that much money for something i would expect to have that option. You don't have to use a or go on a flash site if you don't want to....Flash is alive and well. Like I had mentioned earlier, people who stream Live sports and recent movie releases are all still Flash sites. I do not know of one html5 site that live streams sports.... Would love to find one if its out there though
2. I got the stock app to work with my Samsung All share Data caster. It is really choppy though. Thanks I will give that one a try and see if its any better
3. Wow that makes me even angrier with Sprint. i have tried to go to Verizon and t-mobile. They both have said stick with Sprint. My bills would be over twice as much with them because they don't do true unlimited Data like sprint does. Even when they do offer it, they bottleneck and slow your speed down once you reach a certain amount of data... My data usage makes Sprint my only choice and the fastest for me.
4. Will try thanks!!!!!
5. Note 5 has that from factory. I have it turned on. but in the day light the white flash is not to visible. Also, not visible when the phone is screen up. I have played with the settings. The notification LED just isn't that bright, big, flashes frequent enough to work as well as the older one. The Flash notification though is super helpful at night or in the dark.
6. If I keep the phone I will look into that. However, I find all the battery life claims with factory settings....auto screen brightness, keeping all apps closed, with just normal daily use to be terrible. I find it hard to believe that getting rid of the bloat-ware will take it form terrible to acceptable, but i'll take your word for it ... I hope so.
7. No attached image is showing for me????? I tried tapping and holding the pic and nothing is happening.......still only gives the option to share.
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Flash is dead:
http://www.businessinsider.com/google-chrome-wont-autoplay-flash-ads-2015-8
In device terms with technology coming out. Yes 3 years is old enough.
With phone service you get what you pay for. I've never had a dropped call, network failure, or internet outtage. And from previous experiences living in the sticks of Kentucky. I still got 4G Verizon. Now I'm in Florida and never lower then 3 bars of coverage. I pay $234 a month for two phones and a tablet. I pay for 10gb and I get additional 5gb of data added to my plan per month for free as I am a loyal Verizon Customer. So it works out great.
Idk why it didn't post so my apologies.
Here are photos of the deleting procedure and my battery life on my phone after stream lining it. I average 18-22 hrs on a single charge. Depending on usage.
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I think dolphin browser still works with flash. you will have to find the flash apk download though.
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Stated that i have the correct flash apk and Dolphin+ tried 4 other "flash friendly browsers" too. Some flash works but not all. none of the live sports stuff works....
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trying to get the soccer streams to work isn't working for myself, but I was always able to get UFC to stream and NFL/CFL when I would try. I'll let you know later on if it works for me, might just be the streams are crap too.
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COOL you get exactly what i'm talking about!!!! :good: Yes please keep me updated... Was able to do this on my Note 2 all the time. Have not been able to get any stream to work full screen or at all past a second or 2 on my Note 5.
So you are saying you have gotten the ufc or nfl streams to work on your note 5????
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COOL you get exactly what i'm talking about!!!! :good: Yes please keep me updated... Was able to do this on my Note 2 all the time. Have not been able to get any stream to work full screen or at all past a second or 2 on my Note 5.
So you are saying you have gotten the ufc or nfl streams to work on your note 5????
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I hadn't tried as of yet, but it raises the question. It worked for my note 2 and 3 when I had them
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COOL you get exactly what i'm talking about!!!! :good: Yes please keep me updated... Was able to do this on my Note 2 all the time. Have not been able to get any stream to work full screen or at all past a second or 2 on my Note 5.
So you are saying you have gotten the ufc or nfl streams to work on your note 5????
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totally dependant on the stream, just tried a rugby stream and it was perfectly fine on first row, using dolphin with flash
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totally dependant on the stream, just tried a rugby stream and it was perfectly fine on first row, using dolphin with flash
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Still cant get flash, dolphin, and front row to work....
Some more updates
- Still cant get flash for front row to work with Dolphin.
More updates:
-LED notifications are super weak and almost not visible on bright sunny days
- Have missed several text because if I leave a text conversation open if a text from that sender comes through It wont notify you.
-Also all free messaging apps wont work while you are on the phone. Like KIK and others. You can not receive any of those messages until you get off the phone . Makes me wonder if Email is like this too???? How counter productive and backwards...
They literally have taken out more features and all multi tasking... So what do I care if the hardware is better????? IT DOES WAY LESS!!!!!
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I use hangouts dialer and a google voice line to place calls and keep my data line open....
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-Also all free messaging apps wont work while you are on the phone. Like KIK and others. You can not receive any of those messages until you get off the phone . Makes me wonder if Email is like this too???? How counter productive and backwards...
They literally have taken out more features and all multi tasking... So what do I care if the hardware is better????? IT DOES WAY LESS!!!!!
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Yeah that part is true and no mapping and no nothing about data when your on a call. But you can hear a cricket fart at 200 paces! But again that is a sprint thing. Sprint blames it onSamsung but Samsung builds to sprints specs.