looking to hero! Some questions - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello all,
I'm curious about somethings for turning my g1 to the hero (rosie?) rom (wow it looks beautiful).
The first being Where can I actually find it? I found two sites that offer it but doesn't seem like its from the developer themselves (who I'd trust more).
Secondly, which developer has the best performance (e.g. speed, ect.). I've read that it is a deadly slow Rom and I already lack patience for my g1 now (It's the stock firmware). The hero its self looks much smoother, am I wrong?
If I can't risk my phone being bricked should I bother trying it? (I had it JF rooted in the summer which I did successfully on my first try, and I un-rooted it.)
Is there a text document with how to install with a video that coincides?
Lastly, Is Cyanogen a better rom? (this has next to nothing to do with the hero rom )
Hopefully I didn't miss a thread on this I searched for like an hour.

skratched1 said:
The first being Where can I actually find it? I found two sites that offer it but doesn't seem like its from the developer themselves (who I'd trust more).
Hopefully I didn't miss a thread on this I searched for like an hour.
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You cant just start driving, you have to learn the basics.When you get in a car there a many things that you need to do first is learning and even taking test.
You must have root first and a recovery image and im guessing your all stock.The dream section has all the info needed to root now is up to you to decide if you want to read it.
-Best regards

Thank you. I am very comfortable with the rooting process. I just don't want to do it unless the rosie rom is worth it!

Basically, Hero is incomplete. It doesn't have Bluetooth nor full Google Voice integration, and it runs 1.5. However, at the rate the devs are going on Hero 2.1 the version it runs could change very soon.
For now, stick with Cyanogen as it is a better Rom. Hero doesn't really work on the G1, it's slow and there is a lot of core function missing. It will never be an everyday ROM. I think of it like a concept car. Its cool in a "look what we can do" sort of way, but just wait for the next HTC Android phone.

skratched1 said:
Thank you. I am very comfortable with the rooting process. I just don't want to do it unless the rosie rom is worth it!
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video here:follow in order
1.http://theunlockr.com/2009/07/05/how-to-unroot-your-t-mobile-g1/
2.http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/22/how-to-root-the-mytouch-3g-or-g1-in-one-click/
3.http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/22/ho...ps2sd-onto-your-g1-or-mytouch-3g-best-method/
-Best Of Luck To You!
P.s. Better get started

Wii60 said:
Basically, Hero is incomplete. It doesn't have Bluetooth nor full Google Voice integration, and it runs 1.5. However, at the rate the devs are going on Hero 2.1 the version it runs could change very soon.
For now, stick with Cyanogen as it is a better Rom. Hero doesn't really work on the G1, it's slow and there is a lot of core function missing. It will never be an everyday ROM. I think of it like a concept car. Its cool in a "look what we can do" sort of way, but just wait for the next HTC Android phone.
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Its not slow...You must be running a super old version..Hero 2.1 roms and 1.5 roms are both very fast...King's 2.1 is very fast and close performance to cyanogen, please dont misinform people.All current hero roms are fast, in a 2.1 rom you can achieve 20mb+ free ram which is about the same to a cyanogen rom. Maybe you used a old jac rom months ago.
-"Times are changing boy, you need to catch up"

Ace42 said:
Its not slow...You must be running a super old version..Hero 2.1 roms and 1.5 roms are both very fast...King's 2.1 is very fast and close performance to cyanogen, please dont misinform people.All current hero roms are fast, in a 2.1 rom you can achieve 20mb+ free ram which is about the same to a cyanogen rom. Maybe you used a old jac rom months ago.
-"Times are changing boy, you need to catch up"
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I'm sorry to say, but no I have tried many Hero configurations on my class 6 as recently as a month ago. The fact is that even if there were drivers for all of the hardware over time Hero really starts to bog down. It will not always perform after that post-setup peak it has.
If you want working hero wait until the first 2 weeks of January when the Passion comes out.

Ace42 said:
video here:follow in order
1.http://theunlockr.com/2009/07/05/how-to-unroot-your-t-mobile-g1/
2.http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/22/how-to-root-the-mytouch-3g-or-g1-in-one-click/
3.http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/22/ho...ps2sd-onto-your-g1-or-mytouch-3g-best-method/
-Best Of Luck To You!
P.s. Better get started
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Going to try this tonight. Read and watched the videos. seems very simple. thank you!

need help!
When following this guide http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/22/ho...ps2sd-onto-your-g1-or-mytouch-3g-best-method/ (I already did the one click root with no issues)
In part II of the guide
. Download the custom SPL for your device:
T-Mobile G1 – Here
MyTouch 3G – Unneccessary, skip this section and proceed to Section III.
3. Plug in your phone and mount the SD card (pull down on the notification bar and select the SD card notification then click Mount in the pop up window).
4. After the SD card shows up on the computer, put the SPL zip file on to the memory card.
5. Once it is done transferring to the memory card and you have renamed it, unplug the phone from the computer.
6. Turn off the phone and then turn it back on by holding down the Home and Power button to get to recovery mode (keep holding it until the recovery screen with the writing and black background come up). Here i get to the ! so I hit Alt + L to get to the recovery screen. It gives me the menu to reboot, apply zip, wipe. However at the bottom of the screen it says E: Can't open /cache/recovery/command
7. Once the recovery screen is up, click on Wipe Data. Once that is done, click on Apply Update.zip and wait for it to finish. I wipe the date and then apply zip. I then get this message __ Install from sdcard... Finding update package... Opening update package... Verifying update package... E: No signature (5 files) E: Verification failed Installation aborted
I'm assuming this means the SPL file is corrupt but I don't know much and probably am wrong.
How can I fix this? I got this far with no issues and so close to being done!

skratched1 said:
need help!
I'm assuming this means the SPL file is corrupt but I don't know much and probably am wrong.
How can I fix this? I got this far with no issues and so close to being done!
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Just rename to update not update.zip and make sure the sd is Fat32 not Fat or NTFS.
radio goes first i think make sure you did that section.

Ace42 said:
Just rename to update not update.zip and make sure the sd is Fat32 not Fat or NTFS.
radio goes first i think make sure you did that section.
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SD is fat32 and the update.zip just says update
My radio is 2.22.19.26I that is the most current, right?
tried again still the same message. Any other suggestions? should i unroot and start over again?

skratched1 said:
SD is fat32 and the update.zip just says update
My radio is 2.22.19.26I that is the most current, right?
tried again still the same message. Any other suggestions? should i unroot and start over again?
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Yes you have current radio no need to flash it again unless you want a new paperweight.

Def no paper weight!
I tried again and Still the same message. What do I Do? thanks for all the help.

skratched1 said:
Def no paper weight!
I tried again and Still the same message. What do I Do? thanks for all the help.
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Try to redownload the file.

did that twice once from the link in the video and once from http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/
both gave me the same results.

UP AND RUNNING JACHERO
Thanks a bunch ace. In the two minutes its been up it's looked as good as I wanted it to!

so my son grabbed it this morning, it froze i took the battery out. Now it keeps going to the hero screens over and over again. what should I do?

If I were you I would try re-flashing. Do you have a custom recovery.img? Like Cyan's or Amon-Ra's? If you do, try wipe cache, wipe ext part, wipe cache, and then re-flash. That's always the first thing I do when my phone starts getting buggy.

Related

Apologies - noob rooting questions

I did search, honest! I'm halfway thru rooting my phone (downgraded and hardspl's, now just trying to find an up to date image)
real quick - once i'm back up to date on a recent android build can I still:
1. use market?
2. buy apps?
3. use google apps (maps, gmail etc)?
seen various comments on these questions and just want to get the latest info...
thanks!
yes sir, you absolutely can. and if you have already purchased some paid apps, you will be able to recover them post upgrade via market without paying for them again. a very cool feature IMO
jomtones said:
I did search, honest! I'm halfway thru rooting my phone (downgraded and hardspl's, now just trying to find an up to date image)
real quick - once i'm back up to date on a recent android build can I still:
1. use market?
2. buy apps?
3. use google apps (maps, gmail etc)?
seen various comments on these questions and just want to get the latest info...
thanks!
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IM me if you need help
Cheers guys really appreciate the help!
trying to choose a rom now - are the new ones based on the Hero stable on a G1/ worth trying yet? Any major advantage to them?
Thanks again
JACHero is definitely worth trying.. but to use that you need to upgrade your radio and spl.
Just in case it hasn't been said enough times yet, YOU MUST FLASH THE RADIO BEFORE THE SPL OR BRICK WILL ENSUE!
Ok cool - saw some comments about lag / RAM deficiencies on the G1 - have these been ironed out?
Mostly.. jachero uses linux swap now and it's running pretty fast. Just follow the instructions in the first post of the thread to partition your card.
Ok thanks. Are there major advantages in the Hero ROM? It looked a bit 'gloss' in the video if you know what I mean.
Also how's the battery life working out?
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Ok thanks. Are there major advantages in the Hero ROM? It looked a bit 'gloss' in the video if you know what I mean.
Also how's the battery life working out?
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Main advantages to the hero rom are the swish interface, really useful widgets, integration with facebook, twitter and flickr, exchange imap and pop3 support, bragging rights.
I don't see much difference in battery life between this and cyanogen tbh.. but I keep my phone plugged in most of the day sp ymmv.
wow, sounds pretty good! I've started with a cyanogen just to begin with - weird though it's just been paused on the 'android' logo for about 15mins (still animating) ... he mentions:
17. It's taking forever to boot!
The first boot will take longer than normal because dexopt needs to run. If you are nervous, connect USB and run "adb logcat" to watch the progress.
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in the FAQ but is this normal? (I haven't installed all that adb stuff) ... Wary of pulling the battery and screwing things up ...
Just let it load it does take a bit the first time.
If not, go into recovery again and do a wipe ALT+W and then update ALT+S
that's one thing i would go into the first few times.
Thanks wddglr ... trying that now (it was hung for like 20mins)
Great, that worked straight away! Looking good, I'm gonna give Hero a blast soon
Just make sure you follow the SPL upgrade instructions to the letter. That thing has caused enough bricks to defend china from the Mongols.
Heh, ok! Update radio 1st right? ... btw is there any way to exit the recovery console other than pulling the battery?
hmmm ... ok went here: http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/
and installed radio, then rebooted and installed SPL - now it hangs on the G1 screen. Any ideas?
update: browsing another forum I tried booting with the camera button down and I get this skating android screen!
Home+power also works - Can I do an ALT+W without wiping the radio / SPL? ...
I got the same thing and I don't mind telling you that I was crapping myself
As long as you did the radio first (just in case there is anybody who didn't get that ) all I had to do was do another wipe (just wipes user data\apps etc - not radio or SPL or other "firmware stuff") and then that should work.
It didn't in my case but I just re-applied the ROM update and it worked OK but my heart was racing for a good 30 minutes
Also, you should look into flashing a recovery image onto there - I use Cyanogens (1.3.1 i think) and it's great - can do everything with the trackball etc...
Cheers,
Smiffy.
Home and back exits the recovery console and just incase you didn't know, the 2 phone buttons plus menu is like CTRL-ALT-DEL
Brilliant thanks Lordsmiff .. I just found these instructions along the same lines!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534461
Nice one
'jacHero' didn't work the 1st time, trying a wipe and reinstall now...
what threw me was I expected it to reboot each time I made a change, didn't realise I had to use a card reader to add the main rom!
cheers

Root for Rookies

Hey Guys
I really hope I'm posting this in the right place. Please forgive my ignorance
For the past few days I have tried to get simple and UP TO DATE instruction on how to root the G1. There is so much information scattered out there that its quite overwhelming. Unfortunately I only understand half of the stuff I'm reading (at best) and was hoping one of you smart folks can help a complete amateur in my desperate quest to get root
Can someone please help me with the following:
1) are these steps for downgrading to RC 29 and rooting still applicable for cupcake?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
2) what does it mean to update the radio, SPL, and ROM and how do I do that.
3) where can I find the latest versions of all the stuff I need?
4) will I be able to reinstall all the apps I've bought as long as sign in with the same email after rooting?
5) will some market apps be blocked for me after rooting?
I realize this sounds really ignorant but would appreciate any help I can get!
Think about how many times a day the same inquiries roll these boards. If you've been reading the boards for the past few days and didn't find the answer to the majority of those questions something ain't right meng. I'm not trying to be funny. I'm just saying. The foundation of everything you may or may not learn is slap dab one of the first posts in this forum.
I'm not going to get into that..but you need to. the answers to all your questions are here in front of you. It just gets frustrating (it was to me at least) at times because you might stumble upon 3 different but totally correct answers to one question. Thats exactly where i was right HERE. that was two weeks ago. jumped on the boards one friday night a wreck, by sunday night i was peacefully rooted. Slow down, think about what your doing and what you're reading. make sure you have some free time...TO YOUR SELF. get a pen and some paper right stuff down. take into consideration you might not make it in a day. yeah u might botch your way to ROOT, but unless you REALLLY understand and know how to get there...you could be setting yourself up for alot of frustration. thats all i have to say about that. you caught me on a good night...just had a glass of wine bout call it quits. sorry about any typos. good luck!
doctorfugazi said:
Think about how many times a day the same inquiries roll these boards. If you've been reading the boards for the past few days and didn't find the answer to the majority of those questions something ain't right meng. I'm not trying to be funny. I'm just saying. The foundation of everything you may or may not learn is slap dab one of the first posts in this forum.
I'm not going to get into that..but you need to. the answers to all your questions are here in front of you. It just gets frustrating (it was to me at least) at times because you might stumble upon 3 different but totally correct answers to one question. Thats exactly where i was right HERE. that was two weeks ago. jumped on the boards one friday night a wreck, by sunday night i was peacefully rooted. Slow down, think about what your doing and what you're reading. make sure you have some free time...TO YOUR SELF. get a pen and some paper right stuff down. take into consideration you might not make it in a day. yeah u might botch your way to ROOT, but unless you REALLLY understand and know how to get there...you could be setting yourself up for alot of frustration. thats all i have to say about that. you caught me on a good night...just had a glass of wine bout call it quits. sorry about any typos. good luck!
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off topic here.... but you may want to change your sig.....
SPL before RADIO = FAIL
1) downgrading to RC29 has not changed. it is only different if you do not have a us or uk g1 (you will need to use a goldcard method otherwise)
2)
radio is here
(ota-radio-2_22_19_26I.zip )
http://www.htc.com/www/support/android/adp.html#s3
HardSPL found here w/ descriptions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455860
3)what stuff?
4) yes your apps will be there
5) depends on the rom but most have all apps enabled
B-man007 said:
off topic here.... but you may want to change your sig.....
SPL before RADIO = FAIL
1) downgrading to RC29 has not changed. it is only different if you do not have a us or uk g1 (you will need to use a goldcard method otherwise)
2)
radio is here
(ota-radio-2_22_19_26I.zip )
http://www.htc.com/www/support/android/adp.html#s3
HardSPL found here w/ descriptions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455860
3)what stuff?
4) yes your apps will be there
5) depends on the rom but most have all apps enabled
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Thanks so much! I realize hearing these basic questions about root over and over must be increadibly frustrating for you and appreciate the patience!
Any recommendations as to what ROM I should install? Not quite sure how the different versions compare.
off topic here.... but you may want to change your sig.....
SPL before RADIO = FAIL
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OUCH! Good looking out.
OP, I followed the instructions you linked to just a few days ago and it worked like a breeze. Much easier that I thought it would, and i have no experience with this. I would suggest that when you get to the final part where you are upgrading to a new ROM to try cyanogen's stable build 3.6.8.1. It is just like cupcake (what you had) with a ton of new options.
also, his pimped out recovery.img can be used... version 1.4. I followed that guide to a T, then learned of this new and improved recovery.img file he made. So, basically the next day I changed to this version and it is a lot better.
Partition your sd card when you finish this and his rom will put all of your apps on your SD card, which frees up a ton of internal memory. I went and d/loaded about 60 apps after doing this. His rom does it for you automatically... like, no thought needed, you want even know unless you go to settings and look at the memory.... or, you may b/c of the speed of your phone. This was also much easier than I though, basically just keying a few lines of text in terminal emulator (which you will have after loading his rom above).
Any of the other experienced people have any issues with what I said?
I would also suggest cyanogen's builds. It has a lot of features and is both relatively noob friendly, feature-packed, advanced capabilities for advanced users, and fast. His 4.0 stable is just around the corner with even more features than his current stable version. There are many other ROM's out there as well, you'll have to try em out yourself and see if you like them or not. (Be careful of the ones that say you need the updated SPL, such as the hero ROM's. If your not careful when updating to that SPL [Haykuro's 1.33.2005 SPL] you could brick your phone. )
Cyan's recovery is a must
its great no matter what ROM you choose to use
If you need anything else, feel free to PM me or post here
This is how I got it to work!!!
(SD CARD READER NEEDED)
Got it to work using this tutorial. If I had found it before I wouldn't have started a new thread. Will look harder in the future!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533731
Followed steps until step 16
After step 16:
I had to install the JesusFreke rom cause it wouldn’t let me flash the cyanogen recovery image otherwise (permission denied problem as mentioned by author)
Installed cyanogen recovery image
I skipped partitioning the sd card at this point cause I didn’t plan on installing the Hero rom. If you want to flash the Hero rom you shouldn't skip partitioning
Installed latest Radio
Installed latest SPL
From here on I did my own thing:
Couldn’t boot after updating SPL cause rom got wiped by updating SPL. I had to put the new rom (Cyanogen v3.6.8.1) onto sd card, rename as update.zip and boot into recovery mode to flash it. This is were the sd card reader comes in handy.
You can find the Cyanogen ROM here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537204
After flashing the rom it was stuck on the loading screen so I rebooted into recovery mode and did a clean swipe. Loaded just fine after that.
Created ext2 partition using Paragon Partition Manager (see threat below), rebooted and was good to go
Partitioning using Paragon Partition Manager:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...artitioning+sd
Thanks again for your help guys!
I just used cyan's recovery 1.4 and loaded the radio.zip, spl.zip, and rom.zip onto my sdcard and flashed them in that order. I didn't need to take my sdcard at all
ThR1LL said:
I just used cyan's recovery 1.4 and loaded the radio.zip, spl.zip, and rom.zip onto my sdcard and flashed them in that order. I didn't need to take my sdcard at all
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lol i c u used my guide.
Hope it was helpful hahahaha
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lol i c u used my guide.
Hope it was helpful hahahaha
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There's a guide on this?!?! WTF!!! I like freaked out over a week trying to figure out how to flash the new SPL without taking out my SD card until I found this post and made it work with cyan's new recovery. Someone should sticky your guide bc I had no idea it existed lol.
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There's a guide on this?!?! WTF!!! I like freaked out over a week trying to figure out how to flash the new SPL without taking out my SD card until I found this post and made it work with cyan's new recovery. Someone should sticky your guide bc I had no idea it existed lol.
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ya . Right here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548924
o and right here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532719
(scroll down to fastboot)
nephron said:
ya . Right here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548924
o and right here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532719
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Ohh lol see I didn't bother reading that ADB guide since I already had adb since pre-cupcake when I attempted to root my phone the first time.

how to flash a new room to an already rooted phone?

Hi
I have flashed my G1 T-mobile following the the one-click process in here! i have now root access. The ROM is CyanogenMod-3.9.11.2
After all that i bought a trascend SDcard 8GB class 6, formatted about 600MB to EXT4 using gparted on a live cd, winxp and my G1.
The first thing i noticed is that the phone is slower to load up. it stays about 35secs on the G1 logo and then move to android for a total of about 1min to be ready.
Second thing my free space on internal memory went from 38MB to 68MB, i believe somehow the phone moved the cache on the sdcard...if i install new programs they get installed on the phone memory as far as i understand...however i could be wrong on this. i never started the phone without sdcard since, I'm not sure if this could damage the phone in some way.
I would like to have some feedback on this (the slow boot and memory thing) if someone has experienced a similar situation.
I'm thinking to flash my phone again and move to a stable version of Cyanogen so that i can use app2Sd and Cyanogen updater!!
- how can i flash a new room, considering that i have the latest radio but not HARDspl. (as far as i understand the oneclick method doesn't change the SPL)
I was looking at using again the small oneclick software and flash the Cyanogen 4.0 this time, would that make sense since i have already root access on the phone?
thank you for the help
kirk
update
After installing and unistalling few softwares i found out that all programs are actually on the SDcard however the Mobile uses still the internal memory for the cache. This doesn't bother me for now since i still have about 68MB free. Basically if you install CyanogenMod and you don't have a partitioned SDcard all software get installed on the internal memory however as soon as you put in an partioned card all programs get transfered automatically after the first boot. At least this is what happen to me. Somehow i got what i wanted and because of this i don't need to flash my phone anymore... maybe I'll flash it again when android 2 is out, if i don't have to change spl, image recovery or anythingelse too risky
I used the 1-click method as well, and I just download the latest cyanogen rom, rename it to update, boot into cm-recovery and apply the update.
One more thing, the latest versions of Cyanogen's rom have auto apps2sd built into the rom. It will automatically move all apps to the sd card as long as you have an ext2/ext3/ext4 partition on your sd card.
Your still going to have the same boot time. It's still going to take awhile to boot, just because you have a custom rom doesn't mean it will boot faster. And to load a new rom either rename to update.zip and update or if you have the newest recovery then you can just flash whatever rom without renaming because you can flash any .zip file.
In reading your post I think you said you wanted to use the small 1 click software to download cm4.0 You are done rooting your phone you no longer need to use the 1 click software.
Just copy new rom (cm4.0.4) to sd card
unplug phone from computer
turn off phone
boot into recovery (home and power at the same time)
flash new rom
when you use one root, it flashes cm-recovery 1.4 so there is no need to rename, just put on the root of your sd and flash from recovery
supremeteam256 said:
Your still going to have the same boot time. It's still going to take awhile to boot, just because you have a custom rom doesn't mean it will boot faster. And to load a new rom either rename to update.zip and update or if you have the newest recovery then you can just flash whatever rom without renaming because you can flash any .zip file.
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Are you aware of any reason for the slow boot after partition of the sdcard??
is it the stock 1GB sdcard?
Cause it has to read from the sd during boot up and it has to run the script for the apps2sd
Fingerlickin said:
is it the stock 1GB sdcard?
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no is a transcend 8GB class 6.
gridlock32404 said:
Cause it has to read from the sd during boot up and it has to run the script for the apps2sd
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As far as i know i'm not using app2sd yet. I partitioned my SDcard ONLY after i flashed my phone. however like i said i think the phone is somehow using the ext4 partition for something.
You reckon this would be a normal boot time i mean it takes between 50secs and 1.05 min to be ready. Phone is stable as far as i can tell.
I myself am not concerned with the boot time, the ext4 is another filesystem that it has to read and recongize, you basicly have a little mini computer in your hands so how long does your pc take to load up, there are many files and system checks that it has to go through starting up not to mention all the settings and components it has to turn on
Bottom line, if you want something to boot up quickly than get a basic phone because there is a very good way to speed up a mini computer to do the same
gridlock32404 said:
I myself am not concerned with the boot time, the ext4 is another filesystem that it has to read and recongize, you basicly have a little mini computer in your hands so how long does your pc take to load up, there are many files and system checks that it has to go through starting up not to mention all the settings and components it has to turn on
Bottom line, if you want something to boot up quickly than get a basic phone because there is a very good way to speed up a mini computer to do the same
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Well i'm aware of all this and i'm not concerned too much about the boot time. I'm only trying to gather information and learn a bit more from other ppl experiences. I come from windows mobile and android OS is all new world for me.
have you a similar configuration to my G1? Do you run app2sd? is yor boot time similar to mine??
maybeoneday said:
Just copy new rom (cm4.0.4) to sd card
unplug phone from computer
turn off phone
boot into recovery (home and power at the same time)
flash new rom
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Just a quick question for future reference...
do i need to put Cyanogen recovery image on the root of the sd card when i boot into recovery mode?
thank you
Kirk
Why did you root your phone? You have no desire to search to even do one of the most well documented things to your phone in these forums. What you need to do is take a DREAIMG.nbh file and put it in the root of your sdcard (or in no folders), then open up terminal emulator and type su then reboot bootloader once that happens wait for it to flash that image. Then you will have the most pimping room on your phone. Also you have amazing boot times. Everything you want.
david1171 said:
Why did you root your phone? You have no desire to search to even do one of the most well documented things to your phone in these forums. What you need to do is take a DREAIMG.nbh file and put it in the root of your sdcard (or in no folders), then open up terminal emulator and type su then reboot bootloader once that happens wait for it to flash that image. Then you will have the most pimping room on your phone. Also you have amazing boot times. Everything you want.
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Hi David
I had specific reason to root 2 different G1 and this is not to play with it or try a new ROM or even experiment new things. I may change my ROM again when a major relase is out (i.e. Android 2 if it has something that i need)
Going back to reflashing the phone.
You now suggest me to use DREAIMG.nbh which is actually mentioned on the guide "hoe to downgrade-root-flash your phone" here
....am I missing something here?? thank you for taking the time to reply anyway.
..I have read quite a bit on this forum and i decided to use the one-click method (because is the quickest and safiest one). I thought reflashing should be as easy. go in safe mode wipe and reflash it. Anyway for my nature i tend to ask/investigate one thing before go and actually do it. My questions are:
- if i press home power right now, considering that i have nothing on my sdcard would it take me to the safemode screen?
- Consequently do i need to have Cyanogen image revovery together with the ROM on my sd card in order to flash a new version of CyanogenMod?
Thank you
Kirk
you can boot into recovery at any time by pressing home and power when the phone is powered down. it will go into recovery no matter what is on the sdcard.
Also the recovery image you have on your phone does not determine what rom you can flash.
wow... i am at a loss for words...... do you even know why you did any of the things you did? did you even read the release notes for cyan's rom's? ALL OF THE ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS ARE THERE...
if you have an ext partition on your sd card....it WILL AUTOMATICALLY be used for apps2sd with 80%-90% of the ROM's out there today... ITS IN ALL OF THE ROMS' CHANGE LOGS/RELEASE NOTES
I had specific reason to root 2 different G1 and this is not to play with it or try a new ROM or even experiment new things. I may change my ROM again when a major relase is out (i.e. Android 2 if it has something that i need)
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if you didnt root to try a new rom or experiment with new things, your better off with the stock firmware...which is why david suggested you flash DREAIMG.nbh
go in safe mode wipe and reflash it
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going into safemode wont flash anything.... i suggest you search and find out what exactly safemode is, especially since there was a thread only a few threads below yours detailing it.
All you need to flash a new ROM is the rom on your sd card and a working recovery, as well as anything that the ROM your installing has required which are noted in the changelog/release notes....
nothing else is needed on your SD card, except maybe specific partitioning, which will be noted in the ROM's requirements.
I try to help out here as much as i can when i have time (most of my posts are in Q&A helping out people) but it seems as though no one even bothers to look at the actual forums anymore. They just create an account, create a thread, bug people till a simple question is answered, and disappear forever.....
I came to this site simply to get roms, but i stayed because there was so much to learn and i created an account to help out people as well...i did all of my major modifications without asking any questions....all the questions are already answered somewhere...
i understand its hard to go through all the clutter, but it is starting to look as if no one even cares anymore
@B-man007 i am starting to feel like you do, i had my phone rooted and all that good stuff at least a month before i made an account just to download something uploaded to the forum. I wish i could see how many post i have in a ceratin forum bc i imagine at least 450 or 500 of them would be in this one helping people. Its getting to the point where i no longer care to help people and i thought i had a lot of patience. I porbably do but people are sinking to new lows with the questions they ask...
I think I have maybe 5 posts in dev, most of my posts are q&a and general, but then again half of those posts are from hijacking threads. I just got tired of answering the same questions over and over and over
gridlock32404 said:
I think I have maybe 5 posts in dev, most of my posts are q&a and general, but then again half of those posts are from hijacking threads. I just got tired of answering the same questions over and over and over
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u hijack the hell outa threads. there should some type of entrance exam for xda. like do u know how to search, can u read do u have a brain. i mean god i actually helped a guy who couldnt open the terminal

G1 to Hero Firmware?

I haven't messed with root or any type of firmware in a while.
I have a G1 with firmware 1.5 CRB43 and kernel 2.6.27.24.
I was wondering about that new HERO firmware that was released recently that is supposedly really fast, is it possible to flash this onto a G1? Does anyone here use it, if so how do I upgrade to it.
I find the android development section really messy and hard to understand, there is so many versions of everything and its pretty overwhelming - if anyone could help it would be appreciated
gt5oh said:
I haven't messed with root or any type of firmware in a while.
I have a G1 with firmware 1.5 CRB43 and kernel 2.6.27.24.
I was wondering about that new HERO firmware that was released recently that is supposedly really fast, is it possible to flash this onto a G1? Does anyone here use it, if so how do I upgrade to it.
I find the android development section really messy and hard to understand, there is so many versions of everything and its pretty overwhelming - if anyone could help it would be appreciated
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Yes this is possible. I'm currently running JACxHEROSki-v1.8 with no problems, other than typical HERO issues. [No Blue Tooth] Make sure you do your research.
I. 3 Part partition your sd card. (FAT32, EXT3/EXT4, Linux-Swap 64 or 96MB)
II. Install latest Radio
III. Install latest SPL
IV. Wipe Phone
V. Install Hero Rom
VI. Bliss!
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Yes this is possible. I'm currently running JACxHEROSki-v1.8 with no problems, other than typical HERO issues. [No Blue Tooth] Make sure you do your research.
I. 3 Part partition your sd card. (FAT32, EXT3/EXT4, Linux-Swap 64 or 96MB)
II. Install latest Radio
III. Install latest SPL
IV. Wipe Phone
V. Install Hero Rom
VI. Bliss!
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you're last step is so optimistic. you might want to include though that if there was a cupcake rom installed and a2sd was previously running that a wipe of the ext3 is needed as well.
@gt5oh
you need to wipe your ext3 partition any time when switching between a hero and cupcake rom. or at least the app_s folder and dalvik cache
Ive never had my SD card partitioned - I have a class 6 8gb card - how do I split it 3 ways like mentioned above?
(no wonder I get so much lag, everything is running off my phone memory and not my SD card..)
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you're last step is so optimistic. you might want to include though that if there was a cupcake rom installed and a2sd was previously running that a wipe of the ext3 is needed as well.
@gt5oh
you need to wipe your ext3 partition any time when switching between a hero and cupcake rom. or at least the app_s folder and dalvik cache
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Thank you "senior member" for crapping on me, a "junior member". I didn't create a full detailed guide for the whole process. Next time I will, with color pics and everything, LOL!
gt5oh said:
Ive never had my SD card partitioned - I have a class 6 8gb card - how do I split it 3 ways like mentioned above?
(no wonder I get so much lag, everything is running off my phone memory and not my SD card..)
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here you go
SG_Shadow said:
Thank you "senior member" for crapping on me, a "junior member". I didn't create a full detailed guide for the whole process. Next time I will, with color pics and everything, LOL!
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haha. just realize you were a "junior" member. just stating something that could possibly save a few post and besides... people like black and white pics now.
and i wasn't crapping, more like selective excrement placing lol.
gt5oh said:
Ive never had my SD card partitioned - I have a class 6 8gb card - how do I split it 3 ways like mentioned above?
(no wonder I get so much lag, everything is running off my phone memory and not my SD card..)
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http://androidandme.com/2009/08/news/how-to-manually-partition-your-sd-card-for-android-apps2sd/
Im sure you can also find a guide inside of these forums as well, but I used this one. Very simple, with pics too. If your thinking about running HERO, just make sure your Linux-Swap is around 64-96MB. I run mine at 128MB linux-swap and I have no HTC loading screens or lag what so ever.
wow that first guide is huge..
My phone is already rooted, I have an older hacked version of the 1.5 firmware - where should I start from if I want to go to the new Hero firmware (Whos firmware should I DL there is a million threads?)
gt5oh said:
wow that first guide is huge..
My phone is already rooted, I have an older hacked version of the 1.5 firmware - where should I start from if I want to go to the new Hero firmware (Whos firmware should I DL there is a million threads?)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519523
...all questions can be answered there. For the record, I'm running JACxHEROSki-v1.8. I know there is an experimental 2.1 version out, but its not worth it. The next time I flash a ROM will be for HERO w/ Blue Tooth support.
SG_Shadow said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519523
...all questions can be answered there. For the record, I'm running JACxHEROSki-v1.8. I know there is an experimental 2.1 version out, but its not worth it. The next time I flash a ROM will be for HERO w/ Blue Tooth support.
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How is it on the G1? Is it fast?
Whats the diff between these?
RUU_Hero_HTC_WWE_1.76.405.6_WWE_release_signed_NoD river.exe
RUU_Hero_HTC_WWE_2.73.405.5_WWE_release_signed_NoD river.exe
gt5oh said:
How is it on the G1? Is it fast?
Whats the diff between these?
RUU_Hero_HTC_WWE_1.76.405.6_WWE_release_signed_NoD river.exe
RUU_Hero_HTC_WWE_2.73.405.5_WWE_release_signed_NoD river.exe
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The ROM I'm using is just fine. No loading screens or real lag. The only thing that would make it perfect is blue tooth support. That's it. I'm not sure about those other files your looking at. Maybe a "senior member " can tackle that....
gt5oh said:
How is it on the G1? Is it fast?
Whats the diff between these?
RUU_Hero_HTC_WWE_1.76.405.6_WWE_release_signed_NoD river.exe
RUU_Hero_HTC_WWE_2.73.405.5_WWE_release_signed_NoD river.exe
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where did you get those files from? .exe doesn't go on the phone. the numbers are for the version.
someone likes to through up the "senior" member status a lot don't they lol.
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where did you get those files from? .exe doesn't go on the phone. the numbers are for the version.
someone likes to through up the "senior" member status a lot don't they lol.
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I was looking at this:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/14/htc-hero-firmware-update-peps-up-the-sense-experience-to-somethi/
Get the roms from XDA look in the dev section. Like david said no rom's should be an .exe file.
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where did you get those files from? .exe doesn't go on the phone. the numbers are for the version.
someone likes to through up the "senior" member status a lot don't they lol.
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Dude, I saw .exe and I was like . Im thinking to myself, where did he get these from. Most ROM, SPL, RADIO, AUDIO, THEME etc are .zip
those were on engadgnet, are there any roms based on that new firmware yet? its supposed to be really smooth
Im pretty computer savy and I still cant figure out where to get started on updating my phones firmware to a fast Hero build.
I need to get the ball rolling and everything I read just confuses me more, there seems to be a million ways to do everything - does anyone have a solid guide that worked for them?
you're making this so much harder than it really is
partition your sdcard (fat32, roughly 500mb ext3, linux-swap)
(if it is already partitioned wipe your ext3 partition with mke2fs -j /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 )
put the hero rom on your phone. i hear the newest jacski is good or akiarah
wipe your phone
flash the rom
reboot
give it a while to boot up, then give it a while to start the setup wizard (basically go make a sandwich and eat it)
set up your phone
yay you now have hero. (if you're me, 30 minutes later say screw this and go back to cyanogen's rom)
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you're making this so much harder than it really is
partition your sdcard (fat32, roughly 500mb ext3, linux-swap)
(if it is already partitioned wipe your ext3 partition with mke2fs -j /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 )
put the hero rom on your phone. i hear the newest jacski is good or akiarah
wipe your phone
flash the rom
reboot
give it a while to boot up, then give it a while to start the setup wizard (basically go make a sandwich and eat it)
set up your phone
yay you now have hero. (if you're me, 30 minutes later say screw this and go back to cyanogen's rom)
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Yep, no Hero rom is stable enough if you actually need your phone out in the wild to function near perfectly. If you rely on it for anything business related then stick with cyan or xrom.

Cyanogen 4.2.11.1 Issues

Hi there Android people.
I am having some issues with running the current Cyanogen *4.2.11.1*.
Phone: G1 Drea100 PVT 32B with stock 1GB SD
using anmon RA 1.5.2 recovery image
-wipe all available in menu.
-created a new partition- FAT32, Ext1 (upgraded to 4), Swap 32MB
-wiped all again.
-repair SD: ext
-flash signed-dream-devphone-userbug-ota-14721
-Once the flash above completed I did not restart, I simply flashed to update-cm-4.2.11.1
-reboot
Once it boots, my home process stops responding if I touch anything. This last for about 15 seconds, after that it seems to responds fine, but the browser and market place seems to auto-close on me from time to time, and I get random phone reboots, after a few reboots my phone simply stops turning on. I have to wait about 10 minutes to get into recovery and try to flash all over again.
I tried fix_permissions in the terminal, no luck.
I did some reading and noticed a lot of people are running different Radio/SPL versions other than stock, I am no super user, so I don't know if any of this effects ROMs, or if I should be flashing either for any sort of benefits I am missing out on? could this be the issue? Current SPL/Radio below:
HSPL10.95.3000
CDLP-4
Radio-2.22.19.261
Any input would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
D3AD PIX3L said:
Hi there Android people.
I am having some issues with running the current Cyanogen *4.2.11.1*.
Phone: G1 Drea100 PVT 32B with stock 1GB SD
using anmon RA 1.5.2 recovery image
-wipe all available in menu.
-created a new partition- FAT32, Ext1 (upgraded to 4), Swap 32MB
-wiped all again.
-repair SD: ext
-flash signed-dream-devphone-userbug-ota-14721
-Once the flash above completed I did not restart, I simply flashed to update-cm-4.2.11.1
-reboot
Once it boots, my home process stops responding if I touch anything. This last for about 15 seconds, after that it seems to responds fine, but the browser and market place seems to auto-close on me from time to time, and I get random phone reboots, after a few reboots my phone simply stops turning on. I have to wait about 10 minutes to get into recovery and try to flash all over again.
I tried fix_permissions in the terminal, no luck.
I did some reading and noticed a lot of people are running different Radio/SPL versions other than stock, I am no super user, so I don't know if any of this effects ROMs, or if I should be flashing either for any sort of benefits I am missing out on? could this be the issue? Current SPL/Radio below:
HSPL10.95.3000
CDLP-4
Radio-2.22.19.261
Any input would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
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Why did you use "signed-dream-devphone-userbug-ota-14721"
I'm no pro but I used the base image that cyanogen recommends on his wiki page. The DRC83 defanged located here:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Latest_version#Defanged_DRC83
staunty said:
Why did you use "signed-dream-devphone-userbug-ota-14721"
I'm no pro but I used the base image that cyanogen recommends on his wiki page. The DRC83 defanged located here:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Latest_version#Defanged_DRC83
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He used that because it is the proper image to use. A defanged file simply means that it has been rendered safe to download with no fear of infection. The link on his site is to the file used by the OP, so no worries there. Also, your radio is good, so do not worry about that either.
I have to ask, because you did not mention part of the process that should be happening. You flash the HTC image, then you do not reboot and flash the CyanogenROM. At this point you reboot. What happens? It should flash the radio, go to an HTC screen, stay for awhile, then reboot itself back to recovery where it gives a message regarding the cache being cleared. At this point you reboot for the actual boot process. Is this not happening for you?
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He used that because it is the proper image to use. A defanged file simply means that it has been rendered safe to download with no fear of infection. The link on his site is to the file used by the OP, so no worries there. Also, your radio is good, so do not worry about that either.
I have to ask, because you did not mention part of the process that should be happening. You flash the HTC image, then you do not reboot and flash the CyanogenROM. At this point you reboot. What happens? It should flash the radio, go to an HTC screen, stay for awhile, then reboot itself back to recovery where it gives a message regarding the cache being cleared. At this point you reboot for the actual boot process. Is this not happening for you?
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You are correct- after flashing CM the phone will flash the radio and reboot to the recovery screen where I will reboot again. Sorry for not including that detail.
Home process hanging in the beginning is not a problem, most people have that happenning. Eventhough home screen is shown, Android is still booting up, you just have to wait a little bit for everything to finish up.
Problems with stock apps usually indicate that something went wrong with instalation of the rom (i.e HTC 1.6 rom was not installed properly) so you may want to re-flash that again followed by CM rom of your choice.
Next time you phone reboots itself, try to get a log (there's more on how to do it in Cyan's thread), it's the only way to find out what happens.
Last, but not least, stock 1GB card is not advised for swap/apps2sd because if it's slow speed (it's class 2). Get one that's faster (class 6 preffered) and try that out, it may be the source of your problems after all.
Good luck.
how do i install this Cyanogen on my G1 with 1.6 firmware ?
simple007 said:
how do i install this Cyanogen on my G1 with 1.6 firmware ?
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http://tinyurl.com/yjuy6u3
But in all seriousness
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_G1/Dream_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod
This would work. Please use search, this is such a n00b question.
Did another fresh install, so far no issues.
I will get a log the next time I install to see if I can track down the issue.
Also had time to install Enoch 4.2.11.2 theme. <3 this theme.
I will be heading to Frys today to pick up some cooling fans for the old PC, I will take a look for new mini SD
thank you to everyone that responded.
Just got home from Frys Electronics.
Purchases an A-DATA 8GB Class 6 microSD.
wiping/flashing again.
I am having a hard time learning about the swap file part of all this... I can find guides on how to create a Swap Partition, but not sure how to make it work and/or optimize it.
So I created a 32MB Swap- Previously I read the commands to enable Swap through the terminal- "linux_swap_en=1" I have used this and it does indeed turn on swap, but is there some sort of command to optimize? I believe tweaking the swap files is adjusting the "swappiness"?
The other way I enabled the Swap file was from the spare parts menu- Enabling Compache enabled my Swap file. Does this need adjustment? for size? or any other parameters? Or is this kind of an auto on for Swap?
Sorry I am a total noob, and want to know if I am missing out, I just keep loving this phone more and more.
I will be buying Cyanogen some beer soon ^_^
I've played with swap a long time ago and never quite understood it neither. As of lately, I've been running 10mb hack (in the developement section) and it works great. If you're inclined to get the swap thing going I suggest you read this thread. This will give you an idea of how to enable and tweak swap-related tasks.
Glad to hear that you have original problems taken care of (so far at least).
Good luck.
I think I just may have bricked my phone...
I did all the steps stated in my first post while flashing to 4.2.12.2 and got things going great. Flashed Enoch's Theme 4.2.12.2. Everything was rocking.
Then today, it shut it self off, I rebooted. Got to Enoch load screen then shut off, tried it again, and it won't even get past the G1 splash screen. I have had this happen a few times before, where it would power off randomly and I had to pull the battery, wait like 5 minutes and then get into recovery and clear/flash again. Now I am getting into recovery but after a minute or so it just shuts itself off again.
Can't wipe, Can't flash, cant even get into Cam+power to flash back to previous RC...
Not really sure what to do at this point...
If I do manage to get it running again, I do wonder why its doing this.
I use Cachemate to clear my catche and task killer to kill apps. Could Cachemate be the culprit in this mess, its the only app that I own that uses root? Not sure what else to blame it on other than the G1 one being one big POS and is only good if you can even get a ROM to run on it. I am 5 minutes away from ordering a Nexus.
once again thanks in advance for any input you can provide.
D3AD PIX3L said:
I think I just may have bricked my phone...
I did all the steps stated in my first post while flashing to 4.2.12.2 and got things going great. Flashed Enoch's Theme 4.2.12.2. Everything was rocking.
Then today, it shut it self off, I rebooted. Got to Enoch load screen then shut off, tried it again, and it won't even get past the G1 splash screen. I have had this happen a few times before, where it would power off randomly and I had to pull the battery, wait like 5 minutes and then get into recovery and clear/flash again. Now I am getting into recovery but after a minute or so it just shuts itself off again.
Can't wipe, Can't flash, cant even get into Cam+power to flash back to previous RC...
Not really sure what to do at this point...
If I do manage to get it running again, I do wonder why its doing this.
I use Cachemate to clear my catche and task killer to kill apps. Could Cachemate be the culprit in this mess, its the only app that I own that uses root? Not sure what else to blame it on other than the G1 one being one big POS and is only good if you can even get a ROM to run on it. I am 5 minutes away from ordering a Nexus.
once again thanks in advance for any input you can provide.
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This sounds like a hardware issue, and not a bricking. Try a new battery, this may fix it, otherwise I am not sure.
cloverdale said:
This sounds like a hardware issue, and not a bricking. Try a new battery, this may fix it, otherwise I am not sure.
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I will try the other battery I have at home in my other G1 and report back
D3AD PIX3L said:
I will try the other battery I have at home in my other G1 and report back
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I tried it.
Same issue.
I did noticed that the batter pins were abnormal... One was sticking out more which was normal according to my other G1, the other 2 were shoved down. I tried to mess with the 2 to get them to pop back up to their normal position with no luck.
I am thinking about ordering a replacement.
okay, so tonight I am going to take the G1 apart and see if I can get those pins straightened out. Not sure if it will help, but its better than declaring it a paper weight.
will post the outcome.
Just out of curiousity (and I don't exactly know where I'm going with this) will your phone turn on and stay on if you plug it in (usb or charger)?
borodin1 said:
Just out of curiousity (and I don't exactly know where I'm going with this) will your phone turn on and stay on if you plug it in (usb or charger)?
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It does not.
I think i will take both phones apart and swap out the screen since that is why I don't use the one. I watched a visual walkthrough seems easy enough
Has anyone disassembled their G1 and reassembled successfully? any tips?
Started to take apart the non-cracked bricked G1.
Once I removed the motherboard and started on the next step, I realized how bad it would be to end up getting the parts swapped and then have it not work... Put it back together and loaded up the latest Cyanogen on my working cracked G1.
*shrugs* it will do for now.
Waiting till the end of next month to order my Nexus 1, then I will have fun ripping apart both G1's and hopefully end up with one great looking, fully functional G1 to possibly sell or keep as an extra phone...
thanks to all who replied!

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