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I just bought the TMO Wing and i was just curious where does it fall under compared to all the other HTC phones? I thought the wing was a high-end phone until i saw all the other phones HTC makes(Trinity, Atom, Charmer, etc.) So I just wanted to know whether my phone is at the bottom of the list or is it up there? Thanks in advance!!!
Nate
T-Mobile Wing is not HTC Wing. HTC Wing is a smartphone and TMO Wing is a Pocket PC. T-Mobile Wing is pretty good although there are some new PPCs that are better.
Wait what? I don't get it how do i know which phone i got? I got this phone...
http://www.samstores.com/_images/products/wing.jpg
It's a TMO wing but it says HTC on the back so how would I know?
You have the T-Mobile HTC Wing yes. Wings is a nickname for some other HTC Smartphone. Yours is a Pocket PC phone.
Both are made by HTC.
There is no thread for the HTC Wing. They use Herald for the Wing.
Confused Yet?
Ok I think I get it.....so I'm guessing this wouldn't be the right forum to post any questions about my phone?
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Ok I think I get it.....so I'm guessing this wouldn't be the right forum to post any questions about my phone?
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yeah. Find a The Herald forum and you'll be in the right place. It would be nice if the Moderators made and HTC Wing Forum.
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I just bought the TMO Wing and i was just curious where does it fall under compared to all the other HTC phones? I thought the wing was a high-end phone until i saw all the other phones HTC makes(Trinity, Atom, Charmer, etc.) So I just wanted to know whether my phone is at the bottom of the list or is it up there? Thanks in advance!!!
Nate
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To Answer your original question -- yes the Wing is High End -- however there are better phones. The Kaiser is better but not whole lot. For the price -- you get what you pay for.
Oh ok thanks a lot, you've been really helpful.
t-mobile wing is in the herald thread
the t-mobile wing is grouped with the herald threads you can find what you need here just search for herald you will find roms for the wing and answers to your questions just read and read some more
Yeah you're right it is the Herald forum, sorry for the miss info. See, I don't even know.
ANYONE CONFIRM THAT THEY HAVE A DIAMOND WORKING ON THE 850 3G BAND FOR ATT?
I have been told that the "DIAM130" diamond will work for the 850 3g att band but I am yet to have anyone confirm this! I really wanna get a diamond but 3g is a must for me, so please let us know ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
Yes, I HAVE MY DIAMOND RUNNING ON 3G ON BOTH AT&T FREQUENCIES, 850 AND 1900. It runs perfect with no issues whatsoever. So Lewi, all you have to do is buy any tri-band or quad-band Diamond and not modify it one bit, it'll work flawlessly in the United States. Go get it buddy, it's yours for the taking!
(note: for any user besides lewi, this will not work. don't waste your money.)
Please spend more time searching and less time double posting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414492
Also, your subject is misleading with the ! instead of ?
These are the answers I give to anyone who wants to post the same question over and over all across the forum. Good luck Lewi!
GEEZ
Thanks you all so much for your kindness, yes I have double posted about this and I continue to get a mixed review. If you would spend more time helping then being a jack [email protected]# then maybe you would not only help me but others as well. For the record here are the replys to my threads:
poedgirl posted: I've got 850MHz on 3G here with the 1.00.25.05 radio ROM which came on my device (works on Telstra NextG here in Australia which is 850MHz HSDPA).
MrCalico posted: just got my Diamond Touch today and it came with the
RADIO: 1.00.25.05
ROM: 1.93.456.2 WWE Dated (7/10/08)
O/S: CE 5.2.19965 (Build 19965.1.2.3)
I'm only getting (E)dge on AT&T
No (G) or (H)
My upgraded TILT/TYN II connects to G3 and H at my location here in Los Angeles.
I hope someone figures out a way to get at least a G3 and 850Mhz radio.
Does it just need to be unlocked ??
I have read the many many threads that have been posted about this topic and like most everyone else I am still on the fence as to if there is indeed a DIAMOND that works for the us 3g 850 band! In the same threads that you guys have blasted for me not reading I have seen that supposly there is a "DIAM130" that gets the 850mhz hsdpa 3g band. I am just trying to get someone to confirm it. I am sorry if I have offended anyone, I am just trying to clarify something not just for me but for everyone else!
I think this statement is not only stupid but rude, as I am just merly trying to clarify something:
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Is this guy serious? Can we just like, vote to ban him now? 2 posts in the Diamond section asking the exact same question, so here's the answer you get.
Yes, I HAVE MY DIAMOND RUNNING ON 3G ON BOTH AT&T FREQUENCIES, 850 AND 1900. It runs perfect with no issues whatsoever. So Lewi, all you have to do is buy any tri-band or quad-band Diamond and not modify it one bit, it'll work flawlessly in the United States. Go get it buddy, it's yours for the taking!
(note: for any user besides lewi, this will not work. don't waste your money.)
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Black93300ZX I AM NOT GOING TO STOOP TO YOUR LEVEL AND DOWN YOU IN ANYWAY, I AM GOING TO PRAY AND ASK GOD TO BLESS YOU!
Remember these threads are here to help others and maybe this will answer the same ? for someone else and save them the HARD ACHE AND BLASTS that they may recieve!
I would like to say thank you to everyone in these forums that continue to help and make this a great place to gather info.
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Also, your subject is misleading with the ! instead of ?
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Lewi, I would reiterate what jomo says here and ask that you please update the title of your thread to include a question mark instead of an exclamation point. I for one know that I opened the thread very excited thinking that I was getting new info on a subject that's been discussed so much for the past few weeks.
Thanks.
You think we are only trying to be obnoxious in our replies. You misunderstand. This thread only serves to FURTHER THE CONFUSION. If everyone would just keep the conversation in the limited number of threads, then there won't be so much mis- or incomplete information.
I posted the links to the other relevant and fully vetted threads. Answering the same questions here will not serve any purpose and increases the chances of conflicting information.
Whether you believe it or not, my direct and abrupt post was meant to improve your chances of getting the right answer.
And yes, for the love of all that is good, you shouldhave at least changed the thread title. Or let's just let this one die and keep the conversation in the other, original threads.
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You think we are only trying to be obnoxious in our replies. You misunderstand. This thread only serves to FURTHER THE CONFUSION. If everyone would just keep the conversation in the limited number of threads, then there won't be so much mis- or incomplete information.
I posted the links to the other relevant and fully vetted threads. Answering the same questions here will not serve any purpose and increases the chances of conflicting information.
Whether you believe it or not, my direct and abrupt post was meant to improve your chances of getting the right answer.
And yes, for the love of all that is good, you shouldhave at least changed the thread title. Or let's just let this one die and keep the conversation in the other, original threads.
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Never mentioned you being obnoxious jomo25, I actually thank you for posting the already posted threads for those who havent read them just wish I would have done it first =o)... I am sorry if i mislead anyone on the title description and I just changed it, apparently alot of people still are like me and really cant wait to have some one verify WE DO HAVE A 850 3g diamond that will work for the US! (Noticed the 168 views already for this tread)
lewi1032 -
Your example of the two posts with contradictory information is a perfect example of why your creation of a new post to discuss an issue already covered in other posts is a problem.
If just ONE post exists and people reply rather than create a new post, contradictions such as you experienced will be apparent and can be rectified. If there are multiple posts, there is a good chance people following only one of the post threads will only see half of the discussion and contradictory information will not be apparent and so not rectified.
This is a problem in this forum since many people are posting in a hurry without searching first to see if their question has already been asked. Continuation of this pattern will diminish the usefulness of this forum, to everyone's detriment. This is a BIG concern for long time posters who are trying to help people like yourself get answers, so as episodes of this behavior increase, their tempers flare.
It is considerate to understand the informal and formal rules of any group of people and abide by them, including a newsgroup, especially if you are asking for something. Not doing so sends the message that you don't care about something they value - don't be surprised if they respond negatively.
You can also try doing resarch outside this forum - for example, if you're interested in finding out about the existance of a US 3G Diamond, you might want to try searching using Google. You might be surprised what you find.
lewi - thanks for asking about this. I have a Diamond with the .05 radio and it is working on EDGE with AT&T for sure. I'd love it to work on 3G! It's not at all clear to me a) whether it would switch to 3G automatically if it could, or b) if it would need some configuration. Moreover, it's not clear to me how one can tell which frequency the radio is currently operating on.
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lewi1032 -
Your example of the two posts with contradictory information is a perfect example of why your creation of a new post to discuss an issue already covered in other posts is a problem.
If just ONE post exists and people reply rather than create a new post, contradictions such as you experienced will be apparent and can be rectified. If there are multiple posts, there is a good chance people following only one of the post threads will only see half of the discussion and contradictory information will not be apparent and so not rectified.
This is a problem in this forum since many people are posting in a hurry without searching first to see if their question has already been asked. Continuation of this pattern will diminish the usefulness of this forum, to everyone's detriment. This is a BIG concern for long time posters who are trying to help people like yourself get answers, so as episodes of this behavior increase, their tempers flare.
It is considerate to understand the informal and formal rules of any group of people and abide by them, including a newsgroup, especially if you are asking for something. Not doing so sends the message that you don't care about something they value - don't be surprised if they respond negatively.
You can also try doing resarch outside this forum - for example, if you're interested in finding out about the existance of a US 3G Diamond, you might want to try searching using Google. You might be surprised what you find.
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Thank you for your great post, I have been on google and have done a ton of research outside of these forums, and like i have posted in one of the forums I have not seen anyone saying they have a diamond working here in the us on 3G! It is so hard to go by what "websites" say on the specs because so much of there information is just cut and pasted and usually wrong. For instance COMP USA had on there site where they were selling the diamond that worked for US 3G and they got so many orders and calls on it that they finally relized that they were wrong and it didnt actually work, so they changed it.
here is the link about that http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/...-surfaces-at-compusa-with-quad-band-connecti/
here is a link saying that there isnt any diamond that is compatible with the hspa 850 band at this time:
http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/07/25/diamond.gets.gsm.850.edge/
THIS WOULD EXPLAIN THE PEOPLE SAYING THEY ARE ONLY GETTING GSM (EDGE)
but here is also another link saying that the fcc has approved the us 3g band diamond:
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/07/2...ts-fcc-approval-with-us-3g-hsdpa-support.html
BUT THIS WOULD EXPLAIN THE PEOPLE SAYING THAT THERE IS A 3G BAND DIAMOND "DIAM130"
AS YOU CAN SEE I HAVE DONE ALOT OF SEARCHING AND STILL IT IS HARD TO GET A STRAIGHT ANSWER.
Thanks for all the input from everyone and maybe one day we will get someone to actually post "I HAVE A DIAMOND IN THE US AND ITS WORKING JUST GREAT ON 3G" =o)
Until then I guess I will just have to live without the beautiful VGA screen and make do with my tilt.
Okay, Lewi, you want a PERFECTLY CLEAR CUT AND HONEST ANSWER...
Here we go, it's been said a million times...
THE NEWEST ROM FOR THE DIAMOND...
ENABLES 850MHZ GSM ONLY...
THEREFORE...
YOUR DIAMOND NOW HAS...
850/900/1800/1900 GSM....
900/2100 UMTS...
WHICH WILL NOT WORK ON AT&T'S 3G BANDS OF 850 OR 1900.
Case closed, no matter how many times you ask in this section, the ROM development section, or any other for that matter, this is what is known.
Thank you for your POSITIVE reply =o) So does anyone have any news on this http://www.intomobile.com/2008/07/29...a-support.html or when it might be available?
lewi1032 said:
Thank you for your POSITIVE reply =o) So does anyone have any news on this http://www.intomobile.com/2008/07/29...a-support.html or when it might be available?
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Black93300ZX said:
Error 404 - Requested page not found
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http://www.intomobile.com/2008/07/29
RavenGirl said:
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/07/29
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Well THAT'S a disappointment. Just confirmed that no Diamond, unless made for the US, will work with US 3G bands ever. Good luck to those people who bought European versions to have them early.
Howeverrr, if I do recall, I think the Touch Pro has all radios in it... Didn't someone post on here about the project leader for the Diamond saying how they had to remove the US radio to make it so slim? Hmm...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2471618&postcount=54
It seems he's right.
And things just get curiouser and curiouser... Why doesn't the Touch Pro FCC test mention WCDMA? Is it because the ROM is locking it like 850 GSM in the original Diamond, or was it left out of that too?
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http://www.intomobile.com/2008/07/29
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Well that might be good for some US folks. But doesn't cut it for me. I need tri-band 3G. I travel to Asia way too much to go without 2100 3G. Heck this new phone won't even work in Korea or Japan. Sad how they are taking a step back in functionality here. My current TC works almost everywhere in full 3G glory. No TD will be able to do that. Truly disappointing if true. Between this and the Omnia drama, I might be done with WM.
I just don't understand at all how this phone works on Telstra NextG (850MHz HSPA) with the 1.00.25.05 radio ROM and yet it doesn't work on the US carriers, doesn't make sense to me.
US TD
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=23369
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Well that might be good for some US folks. But doesn't cut it for me. I need tri-band 3G. I travel to Asia way too much to go without 2100 3G. Heck this new phone won't even work in Korea or Japan. Sad how they are taking a step back in functionality here. My current TC works almost everywhere in full 3G glory. No TD will be able to do that. Truly disappointing if true. Between this and the Omnia drama, I might be done with WM.
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The Touch Pro should work everywhere with 3G... If it still has the radio like we suspect it does.
I see one CDMA Rom and surely there are more. Please, where are they located? Just a suggestion, why not make a section for just CDMA Roms.
i have a cdma touch pro and i love my energy rom, before energy i used mighty rom and it was really nice but i didnt care for the touch flo.
Check out my thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544837 and i've got many more at my website (at the bottom of my thread)
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I see one CDMA Rom and surely there are more. Please, where are they located? Just a suggestion, why not make a section for just CDMA Roms.
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ppcgeeks.com is where the CDMA stuff is usually at. XDA is the master of the GSM phones
everythingdiamond.info is starting to take off as well for CDMA phones.
Have you seen ppc geeks lately? Login doesnt work right. Updates are non existant, sucks really....
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Have you seen ppc geeks lately? Login doesnt work right. Updates are non existant, sucks really....
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try again, i been on there all day, no probs here. and everythingdiamond.info is one of the best right now. good luck
What the difference between the CDMA Rom section and the MDA Compact Rom section?
/wiki/T-Mobile_MDA
/wiki/CDMA
(isnt letting me post links, but just put en (dot) wikipedia (dot) org before the above links)
But maybe if you are asking this question, you should not be attempting to flash your phone. If you dont know what you are doing, you can **** stuff up.
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/wiki/T-Mobile_MDA
/wiki/CDMA
(isnt letting me post links, but just put en (dot) wikipedia (dot) org before the above links)
But maybe if you are asking this question, you should not be attempting to flash your phone. If you dont know what you are doing, you can **** stuff up.
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I have been flashing my vogue for about 2 years now. I am very well aware of how to do it. I just notice that the cdma (sprint) link only has 1 rom and the MDA compact link has TONS!
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I have been flashing my vogue for about 2 years now. I am very well aware of how to do it. I just notice that the cdma (sprint) link only has 1 rom and the MDA compact link has TONS!
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Apparently we can just answer peoples questions without assuming there idiots.
HTC Touch Diamond P3051 CDMA (DIAM500)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1389&c=htc_touch_diamond_cdma_p3051_htc_diamond
T-Mobile MDA Compact IV (DIAM200)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1305&view=1&c=t-mobile_mda_compact_iv_htc_diamond_
Comparison Chart
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=1305&id2=1389
Comes down to the "T-Mobile MDA Compact IV (DIAM200)" is GSM.
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Apparently we can just answer peoples questions without assuming there idiots.
HTC Touch Diamond P3051 CDMA (DIAM500)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1389&c=htc_touch_diamond_cdma_p3051_htc_diamond
T-Mobile MDA Compact IV (DIAM200)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1305&view=1&c=t-mobile_mda_compact_iv_htc_diamond_
Comparison Chart
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=1305&id2=1389
Comes down to the "T-Mobile MDA Compact IV (DIAM200)" is GSM.
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Thanks for all this info BUT I know what the difference between CDMA and GSM is. My question is.... How come there are so many roms posted under the GSM thread and NOT the CDMA thread. I would like to flash to a new rom with my CDMA diamond and not sure which is best to use. I only use my phone for texting and basic internet. I dont need all the bells and whistles. Would like it to be windows mobile 6.5.x version. Any suggestions? Again, this is a Sprint PCS CDMA Diamond.
PPCGEEKS has more CDMA ROMS to try
TKG26 said:
PPCGEEKS has more CDMA ROMS to try
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Done. Thank you.
I am curious who would like to see a US ONLY CDMA ONLY htc one forum or perhaps sub-forum? I believe it would help organize and separate the US device from the International ones for clarity and ease of forum use.
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I am curious who would like to see a US ONLY htc one forum or perhaps sub-forum? I believe it would help organize and separate the US device from the International ones for clarity and ease of forum use.
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+1 I have to agree.
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I am curious who would like to see a US ONLY htc one forum or perhaps sub-forum? I believe it would help organize and separate the US device from the International ones for clarity and ease of forum use.
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Yes definitely. There will be bootloader issues on American devices
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I am curious who would like to see a US ONLY htc one forum or perhaps sub-forum? I believe it would help organize and separate the US device from the International ones for clarity and ease of forum use.
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I agree 100 % , separation is needed.
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+10000000000
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Yes. I'm a Limey and I'm tired of all you Yanks ... Yanking up the joint
[Q] Who would like to see a US ONLY htc one forum?
I would also agree if the differences are that much of a problem. Ill be getting one from AT&T as a upgrade and if there is significant differences between unlocking and other types of things I don't want to be confused and asking if something works on US version of phone or not.
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Yes. I'm a Limey and I'm tired of all you Yanks ... Yanking up the joint
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Thanks for your feedback. It's going to get really cluttered in this forum if they don't seperate stuff as the US launch is imminent.
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They wouldn't separate the international and us one x+ even tho the ROMs were incompatible so I doubt this one will be separated
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There are loads of other phones that don't have separate forums to distinguish different regions and frequencies....don't recall it being a problem before. ROM developers sorted things out just fine. If this is just because people don't want to have to sort through the different international release dates then that is a bit short sited thinking no?
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There are loads of other phones that don't have separate forums to distinguish different regions and frequencies....don't recall it being a problem before. ROM developers sorted things out just fine. If this is just because people don't want to have to sort through the different international release dates then that is a bit short sited thinking no?
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We had issues in the past in the evo 3d forums where the cdma roms/themes/mods did not work on the gsm version and vice versa. I think it would at least be good to have seperate subforums for US/Carriers so that people dont flash gsm radios by mistake on their cdma versions and brick their phones. If the international version is the same as US T-Mobile and ATT then that can be one subforum with the other being for Verizon (if verizon gets its) and Sprint. So maybe a GSM vs CDMA subforums could work.
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We had issues in the past in the evo 3d forums where the cdma roms/themes/mods did not work on the gsm version and vice versa. I think it would at least be good to have seperate subforums for US/Carriers so that people dont flash gsm radios by mistake on their cdma versions and brick their phones. If the international version is the same as US T-Mobile and ATT then that can be one subforum with the other being for Verizon (if verizon gets its) and Sprint. So maybe a GSM vs CDMA subforums could work.
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Excellent point.
Where do you have the information from that there will be a CDMA version of this phone? Can you link one, please?
Sprint is cdma only, so is Verizon of they get one.
http://www.sprint.com/landings/htco...3:HTC:Tablet&adSelectData=1:Module_HTC_022213
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I don't know when its coming out. I've read next week or may something... link to an article http://goo.gl/2lToZ
I'd suggest waiting till more information about the phone is available. If it is a redesign like the butterfly and DNA then a separate form. Else, i'd vote for a sub forum. Whatever makes most people happy.
I don't care how you do it but it needs to be done, I'm tired of wading through the international topics/discussion just to find the few US relevant info.
Yeah, should definitely happen.
If necessary, you can bring up the forums that have been split to the site managers, like the 2 s3 forums for the different carriers as well as the international s3 being separated from the carrier specific one
You could tell them that its to prevent bricks from flashing roms, which depending on how its set up will most likely be an issue anyway
Basically i agree, +1 on this
I'm all for a subforum! Maybe not necessarily a separate forum, since I think the majority of "discussion" will be pretty unified, as the device itself is similar when not focusing on radios in specific.
Something like this will probably happen in the future. I've seen it for the majority of other devices, at least.
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Where do you have the information from that there will be a CDMA version of this phone? Can you link one, please?
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Right on Sprint's website.
Sprint is a US carrier that ONLY operates on CDMA. Like the EVO 3D, it was EXTREMELY nice to have GSM & CDMA forums separate as flashing stuff on the wrong hardware could brick it in a second.
While having a separate CDMA section might be ok (depending on if the roms are in fact incompatible), I think the AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus & international variants should share the same section.