I am just wondering if the chefs are going to be making a fully tested windows mobile 6.5 rom anytime? If they will, will there still be bugs in them and especially the lock screen?
In before the abuse.
There are plenty of Windows Mobile 6.5 ROMs out there but unlike desktop operating sytems there are many many different versions.
Even official roms are going to have bugs, all we can do (as Touch HD users that will likely never get an official 6.5 rom) is find an active chefs whose work we like and give feedback on their releases...
...although even then I doubt we can "fully test" them.
7896zx said:
I am just wondering if the chefs are going to be making a fully tested windows mobile 6.5 rom anytime? If they will, will there still be bugs in them and especially the lock screen?
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agree with E Punk... the chefs test as best they can then it's up to us. when i hear "fully tested", i think of a high-level test strategy, detailed test plans (positive/negative tests), unit test, integration test, use case, debug-fix, user-acceptance-test, more debug-fix, etc., etc. that's simply a lot of work... once we get a hold of a ROM, load it, use it and report findings the chefs can review posts to look for consistent errors and those are generally fixed pretty fast. bottom line: if we wanna play, we have to be willing to accept that there will be bugs, behavior quirks or whatever you want to call it. the problem some of us have is knowing when to STOP flashing, lol!!!
i think that a version without major bugs will be out when htc releases official winmo6.5 rom updates for touch diamond2 and touch pro2, as those phones share 99% hardware with our hd
wm6.5 Downloads
Hi all
It is all very well 4 u experts. All these talk about flashing rom and WM6.5. However, no mention of where really this WM6.5 download is, the guy on youtube points to places that do not exist on xda developers site. I open Mary one thing it does not show any of the things he talks about. Also the hard spl he talks about caused me to waste 2 full days trying to restore my phone to its original function. Yes it was grbaged until with pere=severance I figured out a simple download to restore it. Can any one please make simple straight forward steps to find the WM6.5 download?
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Hi all
It is all very well 4 u experts. All these talk about flashing rom and WM6.5. However, no mention of where really this WM6.5 download is, the guy on youtube points to places that do not exist on xda developers site. I open Mary one thing it does not show any of the things he talks about. Also the hard spl he talks about caused me to waste 2 full days trying to restore my phone to its original function. Yes it was grbaged until with pere=severance I figured out a simple download to restore it. Can any one please make simple straight forward steps to find the WM6.5 download?
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With all due respect, I can only assume based on your post count that you are new to the HD, you need to read this forum more. Find the wiki and and read it. I was on this forum for 4 months before I flashed my first rom. Windows 6.5 is not meant for our HDs. A lot of the issues that people are complaining about may or may not affect you. I have no problem with daily use with most of the roms I read and read before and after I flash. I don't expect anyone else to do the dirty work for me but there will always be someone who gets there before me. All these posts are inundated with "does this feature work" or "in the last rom I could do this can this rom do it". I know it is a pain in the backside to flash you phone all time but that is why we are hear. If you are just wanting the perfect rom then you are probably in the wrong place.
I hope this does not come across to hard but I read this forum almost every day. The best advice I can give you is to read then read some more. Or you could end up with an expensive brick.
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Hi all
It is all very well 4 u experts. All these talk about flashing rom and WM6.5. However, no mention of where really this WM6.5 download is, the guy on youtube points to places that do not exist on xda developers site. I open Mary one thing it does not show any of the things he talks about. Also the hard spl he talks about caused me to waste 2 full days trying to restore my phone to its original function. Yes it was grbaged until with pere=severance I figured out a simple download to restore it. Can any one please make simple straight forward steps to find the WM6.5 download?
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had myself a HD for a week, and with the help of XDA wiki flashed it (like about 50 times right now). Just read, and if you need any help just pm me
7896zx said:
I am just wondering if the chefs are going to be making a fully tested windows mobile 6.5 rom anytime? If they will, will there still be bugs in them and especially the lock screen?
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This isn't an attack.
You don't understand the extent to which a cook has control over most bugs (or doesn't). Most of the bugs you see in the ROMs you're looking at are way beyond the cooks control. Remember, they don't have the source code -- they can't fix the software. What they can do is look for updated versions from the developers that might have fixed a problem (but maybe introduce new ones). The biggest control chefs have is over things that can be controlled in the registry: things like visual layou, etc. In addition, some optimization options are available when packaging the ROM, however, I'd advise that you just understand that 6.5 is still an unreleased beta product (even if plans for release have been finalized) at this point.
Your friendly community (volunteer) chefs have done all they can to bring us interesting samples of this upcoming product. The bugs are not a result of lack of testing at all.
Rob
dhatw said:
With all due respect, I can only assume based on your post count that you are new to the HD, you need to read this forum more. Find the wiki and and read it. I was on this forum for 4 months before I flashed my first rom. Windows 6.5 is not meant for our HDs. A lot of the issues that people are complaining about may or may not affect you. I have no problem with daily use with most of the roms I read and read before and after I flash. I don't expect anyone else to do the dirty work for me but there will always be someone who gets there before me. All these posts are inundated with "does this feature work" or "in the last rom I could do this can this rom do it". I know it is a pain in the backside to flash you phone all time but that is why we are hear. If you are just wanting the perfect rom then you are probably in the wrong place.
I hope this does not come across to hard but I read this forum almost every day. The best advice I can give you is to read then read some more. Or you could end up with an expensive brick.
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Judging from how "4" and "u" are not words, and the way this unknown "youtube" guy has given him the impression that he's a representative of xda-dev, I'd say he's new the HD, and somewhat new to life -- maybe 14 or so years old.
Reminds me of the tone that AOL users had when they first came onto the "Internet". They used to angrily demand tech support for the Internet from ops in IRC as if those people worked for some "service" that they were paying for. Oh, those were the days.
Your advice was perfect.
Rob
Slightly going off orginal query topic which has already been answered well in my opinion by both Electronic Punk & cortez.i. Not much else needs to be discussed on that topic
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RE: Anyone who has questions about landscape on 2.5
Now I am by no means able to make or create any of these roms. I am no chef. But I am a very much fan of all the chefs here that create what makes our experiences better. So yes I would first like to say thank you. This place has a strong importance and so do everyone a part of it. I will always appreciate it.
Okay so from what I been told before and what has been said from the senior members developing the roms the we use now is that htc did not make 2.5 with landscape mode except for the music and pictures tab. 2.5 was not made for the tp2 but for the leo. Its been ported to our phones along with our roms. Read the description of the roms and they will tell you flat out if they are using 2.1 or 2.5
With that said the is a developer who has been working on a 2.5 landscape hack and it is functional. Now it is not perfect as he says but it does work.
Go to the applications section to check it out yourself.
As said, go see the thread by rotastrain .
Closed - no need for a seperate discussion here.
Dave
I should know better. However, I HAVE to know................I spent over a year on the Raphael boards really enjoying the endless supply of .cabs and later ROM releases. After my Fuze crashed I talked ATT into sending me a Tilt2. It seems like there remains a lot more activity on Raphael ROM development. I have noticed some of the same threads for ROM's on that board as the ones posted here. Here goes the knock the knuckleheads block off question. Are the ROM's developed for the Raph useable on the Rhodium?; And are there .cab programs that I liked for the Raph that I can use on the Rhod? With what I have found available I kinda miss my little phone.
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I should know better. However, I HAVE to know................I spent over a year on the Raphael boards really enjoying the endless supply of .cabs and later ROM releases. After my Fuze crashed I talked ATT into sending me a Tilt2. It seems like there remains a lot more activity on Raphael ROM development. I have noticed some of the same threads for ROM's on that board as the ones posted here. Here goes the knock the knuckleheads block off question. Are the ROM's developed for the Raph useable on the Rhodium?; And are there .cab programs that I liked for the Raph that I can use on the Rhod? With what I have found available I kinda miss my little phone.
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The ROMs are not useable; the Raphael would have different drivers.
Any CAB files that are applications may (or may not work). Cab files that make changes to the operating system will probably not work.
I don't suppose anyone knows of a handful of keyboards that are compatible with CM7 eh?
I've been trying to find, but everything I try and flash over doesn't work.. If someone could possibly point me in the right direction for keyboards that are confirmed to work for CM7 on the captivate that would be much appreciated.
Any help would be appreciated, as I've spent hours trying to screw around with keyboards and haven't been able to get anything working on this rom.. And no offense to the dev team at CM, but the keyboard blows lol.
Other than that the rom is awesome.
So if anyone could point me in the right direction, or post anything that is confirmed to work, that would be great.
Thanks all.
Any reason you couldn't ask this in the CM7 sticky at the top of this forum?
Yes, because that one gets cluttered, and this is just keyboard specific. I thought this might be my best chance at getting an answer..
Any particular reason why it matters? Once I have my keyboards the thread can be closed/locked w/e
Because the forum doesn't operate on your rules. The ROM-specific stickies are here for a reason. Use them.
Ok guys lets keep it cool. Your best bet would be to Read through the CM7 thread and ask there as the CM7 builds dont use any Samsung drivers so while it may not be an issue, It could be. So is rom related.
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MODS PLEASE MOVE THIS POST. I AM SORRY FOR POSTING IT IN THE WRONG SECTION.
I don't mean to be a downer on people who've done the hard work in porting or making a working custom rom but is there point to AOSP Roms if there is no working camera? I mean isn't it a pretty big functionality that needs to be working for the ROMS to be actually released as working?
Perhaps maybe its just me who thinks if you buy the Z1 based on the fact that it has a good camera you'd want that one minor feature.
Just a thought I decided to share.
(PS: When I say camera isn't working I mean complete functionality not "It just can't focus. It does work!"
Now you have seen the point of the Q&A thread (i.e. its a place for posting questions that is better than the original dev forum) I think its time to answer your question.
the point is this is a developers forum, for developers and by developers. Not every single rom in this forum is a finished article but are works in progress. They are not here for you to be able to pick through and make your phone "cool"
They are here as on going pieces of work for people to help develop and work on.
Please read this
This is the highlight of that post and should be the last word in this thread
XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.
XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.
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Well, work done now doesn't have to be done in the future anymore so if they iron out all the issues already that saves a lot of time in the future right? Sure, without a working camera there will not be a lot of people using them, but I still hope sony fixes this issue in the future and when they do we at least have a bit to choose from already.
That and the fact that it might be more for themselves, to develop and get some experience or work on things, then for the end user.
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Now you have seen the point of the Q&A thread (i.e. its a place for posting questions that is better than the original dev forum) I think its time to answer your question.
the point is this is a developers forum, for developers and by developers. Not every single rom in this forum is a finished article but are works in progress. They are not here for you to be able to pick through and make your phone "cool"
They are here as on going pieces of work for people to help develop and work on.
Please read this
This is the highlight of that post and should be the last word in this thread
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Well said my friend.
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