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Wassup guys, just wanted to see if anyone can suggest what they believe to be the "Best Eclair ROM" right now. I am currently using Manups Eclair ROM v. 1.5 which is good and all but it is also the only Eclair ROM I've tried and I don't really feel like flipping through all these Eclair ROMs so if anyone can be so kind as to suggest that would be great, so I'll just go with the one everyone suggests more or at least try it...Thanks in advance.
It depends on what you'd like.
I'd recommend trying out KingKlick's eclair ROM and the OpenEclair one too. You might like one of those.
Macrophage001 said:
It depends on what you'd like.
I'd recommend trying out KingKlick's eclair ROM and the OpenEclair one too. You might like one of those.
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Basically everything that Eclair should have plus some nice additions if possible, but I'll give those a try for now...thanx...keep the suggestions coming please.
Or...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=448
try searching through here.
Macrophage001, what was the point of your response? I found this thread in a Google search because I pretty much asked the same thing the author did. I'm no developer and I don't have time to spend thumbing through the thousands of threads and responses within XDA. In spite of what you may want to believe, it's people like us who make sites like this a success People with questions. In all honesty why can't you just help? Why be a smart ass? I can't convey my frustration enough.
Why? Because part of the site rules are to not ask for the best rom. It doesn't matter whether you are a dev or not, you can still read the first 3-5 pages in the dev forum, download roms, copy them, backup your current, and flash away. Which leads to you formulating your own opinion.
After trying out three different 2.1 roms for Eclair .. I find that Cannon has the best one out, its had the least errors and is lightning fast..
Check out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633957
Stop reviving old questions please...
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Macrophage001, what was the point of your response? I found this thread in a Google search because I pretty much asked the same thing the author did. I'm no developer and I don't have time to spend thumbing through the thousands of threads and responses within XDA. In spite of what you may want to believe, it's people like us who make sites like this a success People with questions. In all honesty why can't you just help? Why be a smart ass? I can't convey my frustration enough.
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Ehh...sticks and stones =/
Cannon202's Eclair is def the most stable and fastest Eclair ROM Just needs video support like all the others and it would be my everyday ROM
i personally like king klicks his last the longest
I've never posted but I can't figure this out. I searched Google but the only sense roms I found were from February. In xda-nexus-development there are a bunch of themes stock roms, but I don't see any full sense roms. I remember when I had the g1 and the sense roms were slow but everything except Bluetooth worked. I'm sure by now there's a Rom that pretty much makes my nexus into a desire, I really want to try out full sense. But I can't find one anywhere. I know the question sounds dumb but ive seriously looked, I even downloaded Rom manager and looked through its lost. I know it exists because it existed for the g1 and the nexus blows the g1 away. Sorry, I need help.
I call bull**** that you've searched.
As of right now, the sense rom thread is holding a very prominent position in its respective forum.
Not all that helpful, but here's a few tips ronjeremy. Use the advanced search, you can narrow your search out with it (choose only the forum sections you need). Second, look in the development section, you usually find all roms there.
For instance, for Nexus One try here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=559
Why don't people use the search bar? It takes even longer to wait for people to respond than to just "search" the damned thing.
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I call bull**** that you've searched.
As of right now, the sense rom thread is holding a very prominent position in its respective forum.
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can you link me to "the sense rom thread"? I believe you that it exists, but it must not have the word in the title because when i searched on google, i found "sense" roms that were very old, when i searched this forum there was 1 thread with the word "sense" in it, none with the word "desire". No Bull****. So I dont know what to tell you, maybe i should look in every rom post and if there arent screen pics maybe i should flash every rom? Because its definitely a lot faster to post a question than open every single rom thread.
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Why don't people use the search bar? It takes even longer to wait for people to respond than to just "search" the damned thing.
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i tried, i just want a plain sense rom and i couldnt find it
Not gonna link you to it, you'll never learn how to search. I'm glad others aren't spoon feeding it to you either.
Just head into the right forum, hit CONTROL+F and search for "sense" or "desire." Even without searching, I can see TWO sense rom threads within the first page of the appropriate forum.
And when you search in the forum, just search for titles only and just search for "sense" or "desire" in the right forum.
@erikikaz you are too cool
dont know why you would even want sense (unless you absolutely need the htc facebook app or the FM radio)... sense was great about 2 years ago
vanilla froyo + adw/qd, etc have far surpassed the sense UI
I'm using CM 6 with black notification bar, imported sense live wallpaper and launcher pro plus (which is adding sense-like widgets constantly), and the weather and clock widget and I get a sense-like experience without the graphical glitches and Rom bugs. Yeah I paid for some of it, but supporting developers is never a bad thing and once purchased the app is mine across any Rom I install. Unlike sense.
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Not gonna link you to it, you'll never learn how to search. I'm glad others aren't spoon feeding it to you either.
Just head into the right forum, hit CONTROL+F and search for "sense" or "desire." Even without searching, I can see TWO sense rom threads within the first page of the appropriate forum.
And when you search in the forum, just search for titles only and just search for "sense" or "desire" in the right forum.
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You have no friends. Is this supposed to be some sort of lessen that you are blessing me with? Because I think you're a douche bag getting some sort of loser-jollies from withholding a link to an internet thread, its sad. But its also funny, but I'm sure you're no stranger to people laughing at you. So what are you fat? Got a lazy eye? Maybe your boyfriend told you that your peckers tiny? Get over yourself, I did search, I'm not allowed to post links, but believe me I'd post the link for you. Now I'm on my nexus one, when I press "search forum" the search box appears and disappears so what next? Maybe you could hit me with another one of your life-changing, eye-opening, "this hurts me more than it hurts you" queer lessens? i see one by "evil" which isnt right, i see one in a guide by paul which is 2.1, is that as new as it gets? no flash on sense on nexus one?
well. i think the closest rom you'll find is the MCR, Modaco Custom Rom. i waited for those rom too, but idk why, it seems the development was canceled. i don't know for sure. try to look for MCR in android development.
In fact there was/is no completed Sense Froyo port until now.
evil's NXSense ROM is almost complete now (besides USB mount notification and some small BT quirks).
There's Alpha of kingclick's Desire Froyo port (not on the forum).
Look them up, flash, compare, see what you like.
thanks for the replies, i tried modaco it was pretty great, but i instantly missed flash and wifi hotspot setting. But the rom was really smooth, if a froyo one pops up im in. Is the evil one you are talking about going to be themed like his current one or will it be the way it is supposed to be?
Oh no, you've hurt my feelings. It's just terribly unfortunate that none of your descriptions fit me. I've tutored many kids like yourself. You try to teach them through the Socratic method and all they do is reverse their inability or unwillingness to work through a problem on you, blaming you for their failures. Nothing new.
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Is this supposed to be some sort of lessen that you are blessing me with?
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So tell me, did control+F work for you or not? And if it didn't, did you heed my advice and actually just head over to those forums to look at the first page of posts? If so, you're welcome.
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Now I'm on my nexus one, when I press "search forum" the search box appears and disappears so what next? Maybe you could hit me with another one of your life-changing, eye-opening, "this hurts me more than it hurts you" queer lessens?
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Don't be so easy, sheesh. Here comes a lesson, ready?. Try using the search bar at the top of the page. Guess what? When you click it, it won't disappear! And I already told you to search under titles only. Hopefully all this information isn't already over your head.
ronjeremy11 said:
i see one by "evil" which isnt right, i see one in a guide by paul which is 2.1, is that as new as it gets? no flash on sense on nexus one?
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Complain much? You asked for sense roms and you got them. And if you actually did some more prodding you'd find that modaco actually has a 2.2...ahh, screw it, find it yourself
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thanks for the replies, i tried modaco it was pretty great, but i instantly missed flash and wifi hotspot setting. But the rom was really smooth, if a froyo one pops up im in. Is the evil one you are talking about going to be themed like his current one or will it be the way it is supposed to be?
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It's themed the same as his previous ROMs, but there are themes that you can flash over it to get the original sense ui theme. I believe the theme is even posted in evil's thread.
I've been running evil's Q&D NXSense v.1.04 rom since it was posted and so far it seems really complete (besides BT issues and no FM radio - which I never use anyway).
Hi
Soooo I've just setup a Captivate with CM7 and find it pretty slick, but one thing that REALLY bugs me (and I wonder how it's not bugging others too) is the loss of BLN notifications. I hate having to turn on my screen just to check for a new msg/alert and BLN was great at providing a quick visual cue of something waiting on the phone. How do others deal with not having BLN...is there some other app (other then NoLED) that achieves something similar...or is 'just deal with it' the standard response to this? I see a user by the name of kang has done some custom CM7 kernels but these are all for voodoo sound AFAIK. Any thoughts?
Thanks
Jason
It would be nice to have but for obvious reasons its not high on the priority list compared to other needed fixes
CM7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982776
Just in case you didnt see this at the top of the forum. It was a known issue and you didn't need to flash CM7 seeing as how you should have read that BLN was not an option. I have sound notifications enabled which work just fine for me. Also the lack of notification awareness helps me unplug from the online world for a short period of time.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982776
Just in case you didnt see this at the top of the forum. It was a known issue and you didn't need to flash CM7 seeing as how you should have read that BLN was not an option. I have sound notifications enabled which work just fine for me. Also the lack of notification awareness helps me unplug from the online world for a short period of time.
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Funny how some people justify the flaws of CM7. You have a smart phone thats sole purpose is to keep you in constant touch with the online world, yet you say the lack of BLN is your way to get away from it. Like you can't just put it down and not look at it, lol.
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Funny how some people justify the flaws of CM7. You have a smart phone thats sole purpose is to keep you in constant touch with the online world, yet you say the lack of BLN is your way to get away from it. Like you can't just put it down and not look at it, lol.
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I didn't see anyone justifying a "flaw". if you flash cm7 & don't know bln is not an option at the moment, well reading must not be a strong suit.
BLN does not rank high on the priority list of either the cm7 devs or the devs making kernels. Since it is a beta and there are many compatibility issues between the nexus s and the captivate, such as no ext sd in nexus s, more important things are being worked on.
To throw in there, that cm7 has several features (many of which are much more useful than bln) in it that none of the 2.2 or 2.2.1 , roms have. The fact that they dont have the features are not "flaws". Just differences
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axis01 said:
Funny how some people justify the flaws of CM7. You have a smart phone thats sole purpose is to keep you in constant touch with the online world, yet you say the lack of BLN is your way to get away from it. Like you can't just put it down and not look at it, lol.
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Uhhh...just because I have a smart phone does t make it my sole purpose for staying in touch. Your priorities must be skewed a bit on what "I" do with "my" phone. And highlight where I was defending cm7 and its flaws? Pointing out the proper thread to post in? No. Saying the op should have read before flashing? No. Stating that I have sound notification and the lack of bln keeps me from checking my phone when I get a message? No. Hmmm...strange. Why do you defend the need for bln considering the captivate went months without it...and for the longest period No led was the best option available. Sorry for not needing an option of little importance to me.
This is my Captivate. There are many like it but this one is mine
flashman2002 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982776
Just in case you didnt see this at the top of the forum. It was a known issue and you didn't need to flash CM7 seeing as how you should have read that BLN was not an option. I have sound notifications enabled which work just fine for me. Also the lack of notification awareness helps me unplug from the online world for a short period of time.
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Woah, at no point in time did I say I was forced into flashing CM7, nor did I state that I wasn't fully aware of the lack of BLN support...I was simply opening a discussion on how others handle not having a proper LED and now not having BLN...like in your case, you just dont care, fine, that's one valid solution. Another might be to just turn up the audio notification volume very high. I was hoping for some application suggestions, like perhaps one that would do recurring audio notifications until it was acknowledged or something...you know, discussion without picking about and posturing...sorry for being so confused about the nature of this forum.
And I figured and read multiple times that BLN wasn't a core concern for the devs, but I'm sure a number of us users would like to see it...that's all...and I did give props to CM7 right off the hop in my OP, no?
Cheers to those who get it.
J
grasshands said:
Woah, at no point in time did I say I was forced into flashing CM7, nor did I state that I wasn't fully aware of the lack of BLN support...I was simply opening a discussion on how others handle not having a proper LED and now not having BLN...like in your case, you just dont care, fine, that's one valid solution. Another might be to just turn up the audio notification volume very high. I was hoping for some application suggestions, like perhaps one that would do recurring audio notifications until it was acknowledged or something...you know, discussion without picking about and posturing...sorry for being so confused about the nature of this forum.
And I figured and read multiple times that BLN wasn't a core concern for the devs, but I'm sure a number of us users would like to see it...that's all...and I did give props to CM7 right off the hop in my OP, no?
Cheers to those who get it.
J
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First, you didn't really need to create a new thread on a topic that has been discussed before. Second, if you need light notification get that app I mentioned in my second post (No LED). I don't use it anymore so I can't say for sure if it works with Gingerbread. It worked just fine when I was on Froyo. I am not posturing anything, just informing you about a Q&A thread that you should have posted in. I am glad you did read the thread and you had expectations of what was working and not working. If I seem like I am posturing that's ok, just helping you understand how some threads pop up when they really don't need to be. Try out No LED as I think that is the main option still available for lack of BLN.
Edit: I never said you were forced to flash CM7 as you said. I said you didn't need to flash CM7 knowing what worked and didn't work. I just don't understand starting a thread on a topic which has been known; you clearly stated you read the issues with CM7 and still flashed. It doesn't make any sense honestly. Tell me what I am missing here?
flashman2002 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982776
Just in case you didnt see this at the top of the forum. It was a known issue and you didn't need to flash CM7 seeing as how you should have read that BLN was not an option. I have sound notifications enabled which work just fine for me. Also the lack of notification awareness helps me unplug from the online world for a short period of time.
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And just because we're all playing so nice...nowhere in that link is BLN specifically mentioned.
Just saying....
Thanks
J
flashman2002 said:
First, you didn't really need to create a new thread on a topic that has been discussed before. Second, if you need light notification get that app I mentioned in my second post (No LED). I don't use it anymore so I can't say for sure if it works with Gingerbread. It worked just fine when I was on Froyo. I am not posturing anything, just informing you about a Q&A thread that you should have posted in. I am glad you did read the thread and you had expectations of what was working and not working. If I seem like I am posturing that's ok, just helping you understand how some threads pop up when they really don't need to be. Try out No LED as I think that is the main option still available for lack of BLN.
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Yes, I would have loved to post in the Q&A thread, but due to new user restrictions, I was not able to and thus I posted in this, the Q&A forum.
I believe I mentioned specifically against NoLED as I've tried it as one possible solution and didn't really like it...but I didn't say it wasn't valid by any means and again, thanks for a suggestion.
Thanks.
J
grasshands said:
And just because we're all playing so nice...nowhere in that link is BLN specifically mentioned.
Just saying....
Thanks
J
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You will learn eventually. What do you think Q&A means? This is not the only thread that talks about CM7 IE: Dev thread. The Q&A thread is used for questions and answers. So if it isn't in that thread because you finally searched, maybe you would have asked about BLN and options as a replacement. I gave you a link to where this thread and question should have been asked! Got it yet?
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Edit: I never said you were forced to flash CM7 as you said. I said you didn't need to flash CM7 knowing what worked and didn't work. I just don't understand starting a thread on a topic which has been known; you clearly stated you read the issues with CM7 and still flashed. It doesn't make any sense honestly. Tell me what I am missing here?
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What you're missing is the fact that I wasn't bashing CM7, or complaining, but opening a discussion, with the other users of CM7 and the captivate in general, on how they handle notifications...
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You will learn eventually. What do you think Q&A means? This is not the only thread that talks about CM7 IE: Dev thread. The Q&A thread is used for questions and answers. So if it isn't in that thread because you finally searched, maybe you would have asked about BLN and options as a replacement. I gave you a link to where this thread and question should have been asked! Got it yet?
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Ok thankyou.
grasshands said:
What you're missing is the fact that I wasn't bashing CM7, or complaining, but opening a discussion, with the other users of CM7 and the captivate in general, on how they handle notifications...
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This is my last post in your thread. Again you put words in my mouth. I didn't say you bashed CM7 and I am not defending CM7. I am giving you the proper forum for asking your question. That is why there is a Q&A thread for CM7. No offense to you but you obviously don't understand my intent which was to inform you first that there was a better thread for asking your question. Second was to see why you flashed when it has been known that BLN was not compatible with CM7.
Yes, the Q&A thread does not mention BLN. It has been discussed in the Dev thread. By asking your question in the Q&A thread you would have posted in the proper location and still got answers. Sorry for being forum police but that is how it works with forums. Hopefully you will see I am not trying to be an ass and I get what you were wanting, and I gave you a possible solution that I personally have not tried since Froyo. (No LED). Give it a shot.
Sorry for the negative Nelly's
I think that in all the hustle and bustle to iron out technical difficulties and the like the ultimate goal is often lost. Creating an open and effective operating environment for mobile devices that benefits the user and facilitates quick and effective communication with the development team and those who use the software on a daily basis.
If you have not already found a solution, I have the same desire for BLN on Cyanogen. I found that using another Kernel that sits on top of Cyanogen provides that functionality as well as CPU overclocking. I like Le Kernel Du Jour for example and it can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982337
I hope this was helpful.
grasshands said:
Yes, I would have loved to post in the Q&A thread, but due to new user restrictions, I was not able to and thus I posted in this, the Q&A forum.
J
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Just as a clarification for anyone else reading this thread, there are no restrictions for posting in the Q&A subforum or in any of its stickies. This should have been in the CM7 sticky from the beginning and there's no excuse as to why it wasn't. The Development subforum is the only one with any restrictions.
Miami_Son said:
Just as a clarification for anyone else reading this thread, there are no restrictions for posting in the Q&A subforum or in any of its stickies. This should have been in the CM7 sticky from the beginning and there's no excuse as to why it wasn't. The Development subforum is the only one with any restrictions.
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Half of the spam generated on this forum is from people telling the op why they need to search more or post in a different section. Let the mods sort it out and spend your time with constructive posts.
I for one missed bln when I had cm7 but it was never a game changer for me
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Half of the spam generated on this forum is from people telling the op why they need to search more or post in a different section. Let the mods sort it out and spend your time with constructive posts.
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A. The mods can't be everywhere all the time.
B. Educating the noobs and keeping the forum tidy is not SPAM.
C. The mods appreciate the help.
can any one give me the rom for ics for nexus one and blackrose?
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can any one give me the rom for ics for nexus one and blackrose?
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First of all, I am going to assume (perhaps wrongly) that you are 14 years-old (from your user name), and believe me when I tell you: I know that age is hard, and I know because I've been there, however, no matter how hard it was for me I knew that if I dared asking my mother what a word meant, I'd get immediate attention and instructions to f-off and check up on a dictionary (there was no wikipedia nor google back then) and that no-one else was going to do for me what I didn't do by myself, it is with such background that I want to tell you something:
Last saturday I decided to try ICS on my N1, I had no idea where to start since it had been over 8 months when I last did anything to my phone. Still it took me 25 minutes to not only find the right thread, read it, understand it, download the stuff I needed, and read again to make sure I am not doing something dumb, it also was enough time to actually do the whole process.
Now, considering you already found your way into XDA-Developers and you know how to read threads and know how to post questions, I'd say you have wasted approximately 1 hour thinking somebody is actually going to give you the ROM for ICS and Blackrose, let alone baby-walk you through the process.
I am going to assume that most devs are ignoring this thread (and rightly so) as well as most respected members (and I'd like to consider myself a quiet, self-respected member) but still, I do believe its good to take a bit of time from everyday routine to let someone else know "hey! you are doing it wrong" and hopefully get into that person's head and make that little switch go click.
If after all of this you still feel entitled to have someone hand you over a couple of files, please by all means head over to this location: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
Thanks and have a great life!
srry im very new here and i couldnt get my way around and ive been checking for hours on the files for ics on the N1 and had nothing but thanks for ur reply
as i said, again im extremely new to all of this and i dont know how to put ROMs in the phone and how to just do any of this if anyone can just give me something from where i can start i will be gladly appreciated
See, now that is different and worth of paying at least a little bit of attention. However I don't believe you have spent hours without making some sense of anything, at least you know about ICS and Blackrose, you may have a rough idea of what you want to accomplish, and so I'll point you in the right direction by telling you to look for the very first thread on the android development forum for nexus one, the one referring to the wiki and to now read it instead of skipping it as you probably did the first time. I'm sure if you read through it you'll understand the basics and will be able to figure it out really soon.
Good luck.
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Dnt be discouraged...everyone was once a noob. Just as the above user said check out texasice ics and bcm ics.we will help u in every way..read the forums and POSTs ...not just the first and 2nd..
thank you for the reply and i will check the first android development on the n1 and go step by step understanding everything
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darknecro98 said:
can any one give me the rom for ics for nexus one and blackrose?
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I use this one in my (now replaced by SGS3) nexus one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366897
You should read the instructions carefully, the process involves a few steps...
Note that there are 2 o 3 ICS ROMs for Nexus One, and they all have some glitches (USB tethering, camera, SoDs) but they are quite usable.
classicnerd ics butta hd... webCM9 w/ cornerstone... light n tasty...
are there any clear winners between all these different roms?
currently running one of the previous stable cm9 builds. since all 3 of those roms recently got updated, im not sure which direction to go.
jonen said:
classicnerd ics butta hd... webCM9 w/ cornerstone... light n tasty...
are there any clear winners between all these different roms?
currently running one of the previous stable cm9 builds. since all 3 of those roms recently got updated, im not sure which direction to go.
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I use the unofficial cyanogenmod nightlies plus harsh's kernel, oc'd to 1.7 max, 384 min.
I wouldn't say there's a clear winner, though.
For me, eyeballer's nightly has been completely rock solid. Any time I've ventured into territory of someone else's versions, I find lots of problems.... and if you report bugs people accuse you of being ungrateful. So, I just stick to Nightly since it works and I never have to report problems
Yet again, sometimes I wish people would use the SEARCH FUNCTION to find that this question has been asked many times before now.
PLEASE USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION PEOPLE !!!
QUIT CLOGGING THE BOARDS WITH THE SAME QUESTION OF "Which rom shuld I use guyse?"
Pick one, try it, if you don't like it, try another. But STOP THIS BOARD CLOGGING, please.
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Please.
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Yet again, sometimes I wish people would use the SEARCH FUNCTION to find that this question has been asked many times before now.
PLEASE USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION PEOPLE !!!
QUIT CLOGGING THE BOARDS WITH THE SAME QUESTION OF "Which rom shuld I use guyse?"
Pick one, try it, if you don't like it, try another. But STOP THIS BOARD CLOGGING, please.
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Please.
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lol
ve6ay said:
Yet again, sometimes I wish people would use the SEARCH FUNCTION to find that this question has been asked many times before now.
PLEASE USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION PEOPLE !!!
QUIT CLOGGING THE BOARDS WITH THE SAME QUESTION OF "Which rom shuld I use guyse?"
Pick one, try it, if you don't like it, try another. But STOP THIS BOARD CLOGGING, please.
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Please.
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Who dipped your dildo in tobasco, bro?
Id like to take a moment to thank ve6ay for his overly-helpful, highly intellectual post. I dont know how the community could survive without you.....