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Should I Rom

Should i Rom
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Um...that depends. Do you want to?
If you're comfortable with flashing then I would, if not then probably no.
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should you rom?
if you have to ask....
NO.
you should read.
then decide for yourself.
and know what you are doing before you are the 4th person in 24 hours to PERMANENTLY brick thier phone.
rom? no.... not yet at least...
read yes.

TRusselo said:
should you rom?
if you have to ask....
NO.
you should read.
then decide for yourself.
and know what you are doing before you are the 4th person in 24 hours to PERMANENTLY brick thier phone.
rom? no.... not yet at least...
read yes.
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I absolutely agree with this answer. If you are thinking of flashing a ROM, what is the reason you are thinking about doing it? If you decide to go for it, then absolutely make sure you know completely what you are doing by reading as much as you can. Research first will save grief and frustration later. Let's just say I learned that the hard way. The only time I had any issues was when I didn't follow this advice.
Good luck with whichever way you decide to go.

TRusselo said:
should you rom?
if you have to ask....
NO.
you should read.
then decide for yourself.
and know what you are doing before you are the 4th person in 24 hours to PERMANENTLY brick thier phone.
rom? no.... not yet at least...
read yes.
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^^^THIS^^^

Damn 4 ppl in a day...wow
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Just take time to read and understand the while process before you start flashing. DO NOT try and figure out stuff as you go, as that is how stupid mistakes are made and you mess up your phone.
Check to make sure the 3 button combo for recovery and download modes are working, and just know and follow the steps laid out in the many tutorials you can find here on xda. If you can follow directions at all, your phone will soon be doing sweet ****, and you will probably become addicted to flashing and trying new things.
I am not all that knowledgeable about how stuff works, so I never try and modify stuff that hasn't been tried and tested by somebody else, and I've never run into any serious problems. I've flashed too many roms to remember, and never screwed up my phone beyond a simple fix, all thanks to a little careful reading.
Once you flash your first rom successfully, the process is simple and fun. Just make sure and read the thread for each rom you want to try carefully so that you know of all possible issues, and you shouldn't have any problems.
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Make sure you know all the worst things that can happen. Not to scare you from doing it. On the contrary, once you know what's the worst, and you know how to fix it or prevent it, you're good to go.
Like everyone here says (because it's true) READ everything. Read the WHOLE OPs and multiple pages of everything. If someone had problem with something, they probably already mentioned it somewhere in the 23482 pages (it sucks, but you rather spend some time reading than have a dead phone).
At first everything will be uncertain (first time watching the bar go across the download mode screen when flashing from Odin) and sometimes you'll feel like you've bricked your phone. Just read the threads about ACTUAL bricked phones to know what NOT to do.
Actually, what I suggest is to find a rom that you like, but more importantly has REALLY thorough documentation about how to install. Once you do it a couple of times it'll be smooth sailing from there, and you'll be able to work with any kind of rom easily (terminology and stuff becomes more familiar too).
glhf

I got an rma phone and i am not sure if i should rom

mwiz123 said:
I got an rma phone and i am not sure if i should rom
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So you ask the same question in a different format. Tell us that you at least read some of the replies above. Right?

Talk to people that have rommed (if that's a word. If not, then Copyright bdgiese90 2011). If they know your phone well and can help if you have questions beyond what is answered in OP's, then you can make a choice from that too. But seriously. Do your reading first. Installing a ROM isn't something other people decide for you.
And one more thing. Don't ask the same question again with different wording. Read what all of these intelligent people are posting to you. Believe it or not, they ARE helpful
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You sound ambivalent and unsure. Bad combination. Step away from the phone before you hurt it.

[Q] CyanogenMod

Is there a working CyanogenMod rom for the facsinate, I've read some post but just want a yes or no answer please?

Not totally working.
and.... wrong section.

go look at the cm7 thread in the development section. it makes it very clear what is working and what isnt.

Short answer: A lot of stuff in CM7 works. Somethings such as MMS do not. Whether you consider that build working depends on your needs.
Now, I don't say this to be mean. I say this to prevent you from numerous headaches and issues.
Basic reading comprehension and a willingness to search and research independently are required if you are going to successfully flash new software on your phone. That is to say little about bleeding edge Cyanogen which has its own set of eccentricities currently. If you don't have the time or patience to have those qualities then you should skip this process because you WILL end up with a "brick".
Again, I don't say this to be mean or cold-hearted. It is simply fact that if you aren't willing to invest the time to be painstaking in your steps and research that you will end up with a brick and very unhappy. Sorry to be a downer.

bobloblaw1 said:
Short answer: A lot of stuff in CM7 works. Somethings such as MMS do not. Whether you consider that build working depends on your needs.
Now, I don't say this to be mean. I say this to prevent you from numerous headaches and issues.
Basic reading comprehension and a willingness to search and research independently are required if you are going to successfully flash new software on your phone. That is to say little about bleeding edge Cyanogen which has its own set of eccentricities currently. If you don't have the time or patience to have those qualities then you should skip this process because you WILL end up with a "brick".
Again, I don't say this to be mean or cold-hearted. It is simply fact that if you aren't willing to invest the time to be painstaking in your steps and research that you will end up with a brick and very unhappy. Sorry to be a downer.
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Hate to be a downer but its not really any different than installing another rom. Not that doing your own research is a bad thing but you seem like you're trying to frighten people. This phone does not brick easily. The only difference here with cm7 is that you have to odin to get off it.
Sent from my kang banged fascinate, bro.

A person who can't take 30 seconds and read the first post in either of the two cyanogenmod threads and has to ask needs a dose of reality.
And yes, the phone is quite recoverable but only if you know what you are doing. We have seen enough of the "i've spent the last 12 hours trying to recover my phone because I flashed xyz incorrectly" to warrant some caution.
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Why so grouchy?
At least the question wasn't posted in the Dev forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116424
That is where the info for the closest-to-pure CM7 ROM there is on the site.
WARNING: If you don't like it or it happens to brick your phone, you will need odin and a good working image to go back to. These are available on the site. I strongly recommend you find them and familiarize yourself on the how-to of those before embarking down the road of CM7.
I ran TestBuild2 from the above link for sever days. It is nice but has too many stability defects to be reasonable for me because I use my phone for work.

stfu noob, reed some of the forum first

mikefrost702 said:
stfu noob, reed some of the forum first
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Really unnecessary from someone who.never posted before or anyone for that matter

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038478 'nuff said.
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[Q] Need advice on stock N1 before deciding to Root/Mod

Alright, please don't butcher me and be constructive before posting. I've noticed a lot of people posting in this forum getting bashed by others not really helping in anyway.
Anyway, I got a stock N1 2.3.4 and love it. The only issue I have with my N1 is storage. Now I have done the whole adb thing and set to go to the SD card, but I am app hungry as I am a systems engineer and have a lot of troubleshooting apps. Problem being, I have to constantly choose between what I need vs. what I want to use; and both conflict due to size. I have been looking at possibly rooting and even possibly going to a mod (Cyanogen) but do I really need to? My only issue is storage of the apps, so if I can get all the apps I need onto my N1 without having to do any of the previously mentioned, I rather do that.
Any ideas and help would be awesome.

If you root you can run a rom such as, cyanogen which allow moving app to sd-ext. (a script such as dark tremor's a2sd is required)
You could even move dalvik cache and data to the ext. Moving app to the fat 32 don't help much as data still reside internally taking up space.

I guess the follow up question would be then, does it do it natively or like you said, there will be some reading and tinkering to do?

I just rooted to CM7 for the same reason and I get like 100 to 200mb extra space with all my apps already installed before I used to have 25mb free. it does make a difference good luck rooting.

josemedina1983 said:
I just rooted to CM7 for the same reason and I get like 100 to 200mb extra space with all my apps already installed before I used to have 25mb free. it does make a difference good luck rooting.
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Did you do anything special?

ace0022 said:
Did you do anything special?
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follow this steps http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/...bootloader-modacos-rom-amon_ras-recovery.html instead of flashing the rom post it on the page flash this rom http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?type=stable&device=passion 7.0.3 also theirs alot of videos on youtube on how to unlock the bootloader and root the N1 so you can get the whole process. once running Cm7 you can go to setting and most of your apps to sd

Read the FAQ, question 9.
There is a good reason why some people are bashed on the forum - it's because they refuse to read and do their homework before they go around opening threads and asking the same question for 100000th time. Please try to avoid being one of those getting bashed, and before you ask - invest your time searching the forum for answers. Think of it this way: are you the first that is likely to ask that question? Does it seem like a rare question? And if both answers are "no" - then you'll most probably find your answer without asking.

ace0022 said:
Alright, please don't butcher me and be constructive before posting. I've noticed a lot of people posting in this forum getting bashed by others not really helping in anyway.
Anyway, I got a stock N1 2.3.4 and love it. The only issue I have with my N1 is storage. Now I have done the whole adb thing and set to go to the SD card, but I am app hungry as I am a systems engineer and have a lot of troubleshooting apps. Problem being, I have to constantly choose between what I need vs. what I want to use; and both conflict due to size. I have been looking at possibly rooting and even possibly going to a mod (Cyanogen) but do I really need to? My only issue is storage of the apps, so if I can get all the apps I need onto my N1 without having to do any of the previously mentioned, I rather do that.
Any ideas and help would be awesome.
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Some people are just cranky... there is always a bit of RTFM...but this is a forum.
I finally made the plunge about a month ago with CM7 for some very similar reasons as I was just running out of space to run any good applications. I still don't have it tweaked the way I want but doing more research on getting Darktremor to work best for my application.
I have been reading these forums since before I got my N1 and just did not have the need to install any of the ROM's...mainly as I did not think I had the time if things went sideways (usually happens with my projects it seems) but the instructions people have put out are really good and fairly easy. I might not have my mom try to root a device but it is surprisingly easy. I have not jumped over to the nighties yet and may do so in the future.
So my general summary is do it... Root... and get CM7 or the flavor of the month you will be surprised on how much you like it and wonder like I have why in the world you waited so long
Good luck
Chris

app2sd doesn't need a custom rom or anything like root to work 'n' its built in since froyo. anyway try the "pm setInstallLocation" process it might work even without root.
currently there are two different ways to root, with or without unlocking the bootloader.
anyway storage isn't necessarily a reason for choosing CM or whatever like MIUI/Modaco or anything.

Jack_R1 said:
Read the FAQ, question 9.
There is a good reason why some people are bashed on the forum - it's because they refuse to read and do their homework before they go around opening threads and asking the same question for 100000th time. Please try to avoid being one of those getting bashed, and before you ask - invest your time searching the forum for answers. Think of it this way: are you the first that is likely to ask that question? Does it seem like a rare question? And if both answers are "no" - then you'll most probably find your answer without asking.
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At this point I don't think people should really mind simple questions at this point of time. the N1 section doesn't really have that much traffic like before when good questions would get buried under the how to root or best roms questions.

It's actually not so much about the forum traffic, but about the quality of answers. People get tired of answering the same things over and over, and eventually they stop. As long as there are enough knowledgeable people that still answer - it won't matter, but when enough of them stop answering - there won't be good answers to keep this forum trustworthy.

Jack_R1 said:
Read the FAQ, question 9.
There is a good reason why some people are bashed on the forum - it's because they refuse to read and do their homework before they go around opening threads and asking the same question for 100000th time. Please try to avoid being one of those getting bashed, and before you ask - invest your time searching the forum for answers. Think of it this way: are you the first that is likely to ask that question? Does it seem like a rare question? And if both answers are "no" - then you'll most probably find your answer without asking.
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Instead of wasting your time and adding to your post count with wasteful information, why do you skip the thread and move along. You are not being helpful being the forums Dad. There are thousands of posts here and I'm not about to scour them for 2 simple questions that I have, which by the way I did go and look. There are follow up questions that I had as well, that some members, unlike you, have been very courteous in answering. I was wondering how long it would take you to post a useless post, since you seem to be the one bashing and scolding everyone here.

phoeagon said:
app2sd doesn't need a custom rom or anything like root to work 'n' its built in since froyo. anyway try the "pm setInstallLocation" process it might work even without root.
currently there are two different ways to root, with or without unlocking the bootloader.
anyway storage isn't necessarily a reason for choosing CM or whatever like MIUI/Modaco or anything.
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Trust me I wish this was the case. It leaves always files on the main memory and even though I really don't have that many applications the storage left is only 30mb. After a bit of browsing on the web on it, I get running out of space notifier too and I have done both the app2sd and the setinstall location.

Thank you for those who posted with useful info unlike some. Anyway, going back to the topic, I just ordered a class 10 card since mine are only 2 and 4. Did notice quite a few people mentioned that as a must. Now while reading on the CM7 rom, I did notice some saying they have nightlies but have failed to come up with what the heck is it. Any info on that version of CM7?

ace0022 said:
Thank you for those who posted with useful info unlike some. Anyway, going back to the topic, I just ordered a class 10 card since mine are only 2 and 4. Did notice quite a few people mentioned that as a must. Now while reading on the CM7 rom, I did notice some saying they have nightlies but have failed to come up with what the heck is it. Any info on that version of CM7?
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is a BETA rom it has bugs etc. I stick to stable Rom like 7.0.3 I want everything to work without the pain of major bugs or battery draining in 5hr.

ace0022 said:
Instead of wasting your time and adding to your post count with wasteful information, why do you skip the thread and move along. You are not being helpful being the forums Dad. There are thousands of posts here and I'm not about to scour them for 2 simple questions that I have, which by the way I did go and look. There are follow up questions that I had as well, that some members, unlike you, have been very courteous in answering. I was wondering how long it would take you to post a useless post, since you seem to be the one bashing and scolding everyone here.
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I guess you didn't read the FAQ after all, otherwise you would have known that all the "courteous members" of the forum that answered you, don't know a thing about A2SD - which wasn't mentioned anywhere in the thread - and all the space that CM7 helps you gain isn't nearly enough for most people with N1. Even using A2SD without Dalvik2SD flag is not enough for most people.
But since you insisted on calling the FAQ "wasteful info" and bashing me personally, instead of actually reading the required minimum - I'll move to other threads, and you'll get your help from others. If you'll find someone willing to help, that is.

The forum also has search for a reason.
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[Q] Should I root my Streak 7?

I want to root my Dell Streak 7, 16 GB, T-Mobile model but I've been hesitant to do so because I've heard of many people getting their devices bricked after attempting to.
What are the chances of me bricking my device in the process of rooting and is it worth taking the risk or not?
Thanks.

5uprem3 said:
I want to root my Dell Streak 7, 16 GB, T-Mobile model but I've been hesitant to do so because I've heard of many people getting their devices bricked after attempting to.
What are the chances of me bricking my device in the process of rooting and is it worth taking the risk or not?
Thanks.
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If you are on 2.2 then rooting it is simple and easy with very little trouble. Just use an app call Gingerbreak, it is fully reversible.

otnos said:
If you are on 2.2 then rooting it is simple and easy with very little trouble. Just use an app call Gingerbreak, it is fully reversible.
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If you're gonna root it would be much easier to just flash the Clockwork Mod and flash DJ Steve's custom ROM for Froyo that comes tweaked and all

otnos said:
If you are on 2.2 then rooting it is simple and easy with very little trouble. Just use an app call Gingerbreak, it is fully reversible.
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Yes, I'm on 2.2. And thanks for the info, I'll check it out.
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If you're gonna root it would be much easier to just flash the Clockwork Mod and flash DJ Steve's custom ROM for Froyo that comes tweaked and all
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Hm.. I'm very new to all this Android stuff so I have no idea what all of that means. If you could give me more input on how to do that and where I could find all of that, I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks for answering though guys

Allow me to be very frank and honest... the fact that you ask for the information to be spoon fed to you allows us all to assume you haven't done near enough reading, the LAST thing you should be doing is rooting. The act of looking for the information will acclimate you to the things you should know. There are several threads on modifying the Streak 7 and what to do should you run into a wall. Until you read AND UNDERSTAND ALL OF THOSE THREADS you should flash ANYTHING to your device, please heed the warning, if not you'll be one of the hundreds getting flamed because you refused to educate yourself before tinkering with your device.
Yes, I at one time was a noob, and each time you buy a different device you are somewhat of a noob. I just purchased a Galaxy S2 and a Note to replace my Streak, I spent 2 weeks reading articles, skimming through ROM threads and devouring hundreds of pages before I flashed anything so I wouldn't have any trouble...

I for one did lots of reading but could not find all the answers, so I posted in the General Section. Well, over 500 views and not one reply. Nobody has done a Nandroid backup/restore???

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I for one did lots of reading but could not find all the answers, so I posted in the General Section. Well, over 500 views abjuring not one reply. Nobody has done a Nandroid backup/restore???
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All the answers are in just a couple of threads

cdzo72 said:
All the answers are in just a couple of threads
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A needle in a big haystack! I can understand not wanting to explain with every move but all my question required a Y/N answer. Does that fit your repeated "spoon feed" answer?
As one posted, we are expected to read hundreds of posts to find one post where our question is answered. Is that just because that's the everyone is treated, so your expected to pass it along?

To answer your question would be a big fat YES! YOU ARE expected to read through those hundreds of posts that noobs such as yourself create because the answers to all your questions are in just a couple of threads posted by the more experienced. I read through those hundreds of threads to know what I know so what exempts the rest of you from the same adherence to the forum rules?
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cdzo72 said:
To answer your question would be a big fat YES! YOU ARE expected to read through those hundreds of posts that noobs such as yourself create because the answers to all your questions are in just a couple of threads posted by the more experienced. I read through those hundreds of threads to know what I know so what exempts the rest of you from the same adherence to the forum rules?
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Well Mr. more experienced, so far not one of the more experienced hasn't answered with a simple Y/N. Must be too difficult to press a few keys, I guess or it's the "I had to learn the hard, so they'll have to also" mentality? You are one bitter person!

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Well Mr. more experienced, so far not one of the more experienced hasn't answered with a simple Y/N. Must be too difficult to press a few keys, I guess or it's the "I had to learn the hard, so they'll have to also" mentality? You are one bitter person!
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CDZO72 is completely correct in that you SHOULD read hundreds of posts, not nessecerilly hundreds of pages.
How much is 100 posts? by default 1 page is 10 posts, so it's 10 pages of a thread. Usually you only need the OP and mabye the last 5 posts in a thread.
Then add in you should read half a dozen or so stickies. 50 posts of the RIGHT posts or so and you already can get an idea of what's good/bad, right/wrong. You can easily read several hundred in a sitting as skimming counts as reading for unimportant posts.
Who's fault is it when someone bricks their device because they didnt read everything? I'm pretty much the go-to guy for generating documentation and I rarely ever get any real suggestions to change/improve stuff.
All my stuff is medium-difficulty instructions as I refuse to hand-hold people though as most of my stuff is stuff that WILL BRICK you if done incorrectly. Many other guides tend to be easily broken, due to changes in stuff as hand holding is highly specific, generalized ones arnt easily broken, especially the ones I make.
The phrasing and tone that cdzo I dont agree with though, but until a certian threshold it's none of my concern. It's strongly worded but not rude yet. And he's completely right about the points, if you mess with a device and dont read everything, what is the next post you make? "HALP MY THNG DUN WORK"
I am assuming OP is new to android as a whole and now he's been pointed in the right direction to learn more.
OP hasnt implied he's refusing to read stuff, he merely implies that he has no idea what he should be reading. he SHOULD have read the stickies as they do cover most topics, he could have possibly read it and not understood it.
I always assume that the vast majority of users simply read the stuff and never post as they dont need to/have no issues with it. Often time the posters are the ones that dont understand/refuse to read for various reasons (and some of them could be legit reasons such as language barriers)
tl;dr: the vast majority of posts are issues that can be solved by thourghly reading the stickies, if they arnt they should tell me and we'll figure something out

Thanks to TheManii and explanation of my behavior
Thank you TheManii for backing me up to an extent, and I will be the first to apologize for my somewhat harsh answers at times but the points I want to make are the following:
1) If you don't have the time to do what TheManii just suggested then NO, no one should mod their device without feeling they can reverse what has been done
2) I have several devices.. my Streak 5, the Streak 7, Transformer Prime, SGS2 I9100 and an iPad 2... and lemme tell ya, comparitively speaking, these Streak forums are sleepy compared to the stupidity you see in some of those... especially the SGS2 forum, there are at least 100 NEW threads daily and 99% of them are JUNK, and 99% of the posts in existing threads are JUNK, so you can imagine how frustrating it is for someone such as myself when I acquire a new device and then have to weed through ALL THAT to find my answers, because I almost refuse to start a new thread because I doubt that anything I come across some developer has not already addressed, I just have to find it
3) so let me apologize to whoever may be offended by my sarcasm and rants, but if just a few people are motivated to alter their forum behavior by it, well I am more than willing to bear the burden of being lashed out at by the noobies that resent my responses
4) once again thank you TheManii for your support (I gave you a thanks for your post , once again you have proven you are TheManii

I dont believe you're doing it to be malicious, sometimes you dont really realize it until someone points it out.
Forums are always baised towards having users that are having trouble, as it's just as unproductive to make a post that says you got and understood everything. (unless it's some sort of thank you thread)
Actively saying you dont want to read is grounds for getting tarred and feathered by the mods (as in heavily chastized but nothing serious unless it's repeat offenses), I am not a mod though and fortunately dell devices dont get millions of posts an hour.
Just to repeat though, I always assume good faith in the OP, and he hasnt stated anything towards that yet.

hello friends, I saw the post and read because I thought it would help me to be root, I thought to find some link, I believe, and if they let me say that with a single link would suffice, or just see and pass by, I also have revealed with my htc and what would happen if they become damaged, and finally because of who will? for me is a language barrier, and read only the interesting threads but do not know much, a greeting
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I've read 100's of pages of posts after reading some of "cdzo72's"" rude rants to noobies. I believe sombody else mentioned why does "cdzo72" even reply to a thread but only to rant?
TheManii, I really like the one where you told somebody, "Well, I'll toss you a bone". Really??
Then there's a response from "giveen" where I questioned his video(s). His answer was a link to Google! I know you guys are developers and you guys make this Dell S7 section for the most part. I shouldn't be agitating you guys but neither of you are going to win a Mr. Congeniality Awards.
Do you guys have children? If they ask you a question, do you give them the same kind of response that "some" noobies get here? Gosh, I hope not!
I'm a moderator in another forum and you would have heard from me long time ago because this rudeness just isn't allowed, no matter who you are or even what you bring to the plate.
In reference to my replyless thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1516530, I don't really see how a simple yes/no would have killed you?

I am not a dev, but I CAN speak for some the old devs that left the S5 area, they stopped replying/deving because they kept getting inundated with stupid questions.
When every time you get bombarded with questions that were clearly answered somewhere else it tells you it's simply easier to not release something publicly. I personally know one dev that stopped making releases because he kept getting asked stupid questions.
I'm hesitatnt to release anything if I'm not willing to fully support it, hence why the great majority of my roms are never released/only released to a small group.
Anyone who's on xda is by definition not a child (even this isnt the case, I would be surprised if there wernt devs on xda under 15, but I expect that many of them learned entirely on their own at that age), there's a point where you should be able to learn on your own without assistance.
The State Of Our Site – Not An Official Statement But A Perspective this sums it up to a degree. I could have sworn there was an official announcement that xda was for devs and users were simply along for the ride, not the other way around. I cant find it, I may be mistaken though as that link isnt a binding statement.
Just as much I've seen forums that outright instant-ban you for a couple days for even the simplest dumb question. With the size of it I dont really blame them. Keep in mind some like somethingawful requires PAYING to register and the users know beforehand that being probated is really easy for making bad/dumb posts. Yet they still register and pay to do so.

Please help!

I feel like an idiot, I am personally a galaxy note 2 rooted and custom rom'd user. The G1 was my first android phone years ago. I got 2 g1's for my mom and dad and am trying to get a custom recovery on them. I have rooted both, (1 on 1.5 and the other 1.6) and cannot even see clockwork mod rom manager in the market. I'm guessing because it is such an old android build. What the hell do I do to get a custom recovery on these? All the sites I have found that host amon ra 1.7 do not have the file any more. I wish it was just as easy as installing rom manager, but I canot find it in the market. Please help me, my parents are without phones and I look like a fool.

First off try posting in the q&a section
Second always read the stickies
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36173807

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First off try posting in the q&a section
Second always read the stickies
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36173807
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Ok, first, I will say THANK YOU. As I have already ready that and every other thread and must have missed the section that I just now found.
Second, you need to learn how to talk to people, because at risk of sounding like a keyboard cowboy, I am not the type of person that people talk to that way. I am not trying to flame here, I am thankful that you just helped me, but please understand that there is a right and wrong way to talk to people.
Again,
Thank you for helping me see what I had preciously overlooked.

Seriously... No need to be on a high horse here fella, trying to help you understand how and when to post in a forum, if you spent any time in the stickies you would see rules on where to post, theyre very basic and usualy shouldnt even need to be said as theyre kinda obvious. When you hit the search key it may be kinda hard at first, but then you realize its sorted by date, and when "recovery" pops up 30 times in the past fews feeks you haved to assume thered might be something for you in there
And yes i am just trying to help so i appreciate you saying thank you but really, your on the internet, dont be tough, i and everyone else will talk to you however we want, no one is tough on the internet, dont pretend like people care who you are and just be happy you were pointed in the right direction
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Lol, I have been a member of this forum longer than you, if you want to talk to me, I will pm you my phone number. I will also fly to see you. I can afford that. I dont live in my parents basement. I would love to continue this conversation in person, and will arrange it if you oblige, pm me. Please.

Im glad you made it out of your parents basment, again no one cares, no one cares how much money you have or that you dont have a fear of planes. No one cares how long youve been on the internet or members of a forum. And especially no one cares how tough you are. Feel free to waste your time flying down to see me, i and no one else will care that you do.
And for the sake of pointing out the obvious again, saying youve been a member of xda longer than i just shows that you should know where and when to post and just be greatful you got help anyhow, how about you show how tough you are by fighting the urge to even repond to this and learn to let it go, be greatful, and most important, be quiet
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Again, thank you for your help I honestly appreciate it. I just thought you came across a little harsh originally. No point of getting tough like you said, thanks again.

you know i should apologize too, i used to be very hot tempered back in the day and have come down to a normal level over the years, i appreciate you responding in kind
to clarify my purpose is to help people here and some time i come off as harsh only because im busy at the moment or get tired of similar question being asked
anyhow if you need any further help just ask, im around frequently and enjoy helping - just remember this isnt a **** comparing contest so we can leave it at that
good luck on rooting your phones

My kind of guy, thats an expression I would have used myself lmao. KCCO BROTHER