Hi,
I searched the forums but haven't found sufficient information on the comparison between hero and cyan roms.
I am using Cyan since day i've got mu G1 (which was about a month) and I'm happy with it. Had some problems with sat-nav due to 1.6 firmware, but otherwise, the phone does (and looks thanks to enoch) what I want.
But...
I hear (read) that hero has better music player and flash support. Also, HTC pdf viewer is better than any other pdf viewer alivaible right now (very important for me, I read a lot of OCRed and picture-scan pdfs, thinkfree pdf doesn't handle the scans very well).
I would like to hear your opinion on both roms. How good are the exlusive apps on HERO, is it fast on G1, whats the battery drain? What about google-nav or google-goggles on hero? Is the gui so much better (liked manila on WiMo)?
Some of you will say that i'll better flash and see myself, but i prefer to do research before i do something like that.
Thanks in Advance,
p.s Also, I'm using apps2sd, how can I backup my entire phone, as nandroid backups only stuff on handset.
Cybrasty said:
Hi,
I searched the forums but haven't found sufficient information on the comparison between hero and cyan roms.
I am using Cyan since day i've got mu G1 (which was about a month) and I'm happy with it. Had some problems with sat-nav due to 1.6 firmware, but otherwise, the phone does (and looks thanks to enoch) what I want.
But...
I hear (read) that hero has better music player and flash support. Also, HTC pdf viewer is better than any other pdf viewer alivaible right now (very important for me, I read a lot of OCRed and picture-scan pdfs, thinkfree pdf doesn't handle the scans very well).
I would like to hear your opinion on both roms. How good are the exlusive apps on HERO, is it fast on G1, whats the battery drain? What about google-nav or google-goggles on hero? Is the gui so much better (liked manila on WiMo)?
Some of you will say that i'll better flash and see myself, but i prefer to do research before i do something like that.
Thanks in Advance,
p.s Also, I'm using apps2sd, how can I backup my entire phone, as nandroid backups only stuff on handset.
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Apples vs Oranges.
I use both roms frequently and the difference of the two is vast.
Cyanogen Rom's
Have bluetooth
Fast!
Stable!
Running 1.6 firmware with a pinch of 2.0
No flash
GUI is meh
Hero (depending on which rom)
Flash! (only Flash 9)
Better UI
More social options integrated (such as twitter, facebook, etc)
SLOWER THAN STOCK ROM (my opinion)
May require a reboot when it gets laggy
No bluetooth
No homescreen orientation
Running on 1.5 firmware
Note... I'd hate to say it though... if you said that you can't find anything in your searches then I would not recommend trying Hero. It requires steps that may brick your phone. If you're not competent enough to find the answers above then you are likely not qualified to use Hero. I don't mean to be a jerk about it and I am not trying to flame you... I'm just trying to give you the cold, hard truth before you end up with a $200+ piece of garbage.
But... hey... who am I to say? It's yours to lose.
just wanted to chime in here... have you tried BeamReader - it's a pdf viewer and I've been using it since it came out. It's pretty slick and quite good.
nmw407 said:
just wanted to chime in here... have you tried BeamReader - it's a pdf viewer and I've been using it since it came out. It's pretty slick and quite good.
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What does that have to do with the subject at hand???
nmw407 said:
just wanted to chime in here... have you tried BeamReader - it's a pdf viewer and I've been using it since it came out. It's pretty slick and quite good.
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That was TOTALLY random LOL
I said chimed in cause he mentioned the HTC pdf viewer, I'm giving him an alternative since cyan's rom doesn't come with it. So if cyan is the way for him to go, then it's an alternative
nmw407 said:
I said chimed in cause he mentioned the HTC pdf viewer, I'm giving him an alternative since cyan's rom doesn't come with it. So if cyan is the way for him to go, then it's an alternative
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Htc viewer is ok, not all that great.
Cybrasty said:
Hi,
I searched the forums but haven't found sufficient information on the comparison between hero and cyan roms.
I am using Cyan since day i've got mu G1 (which was about a month) and I'm happy with it. Had some problems with sat-nav due to 1.6 firmware, but otherwise, the phone does (and looks thanks to enoch) what I want.
But...
I hear (read) that hero has better music player and flash support. Also, HTC pdf viewer is better than any other pdf viewer alivaible right now (very important for me, I read a lot of OCRed and picture-scan pdfs, thinkfree pdf doesn't handle the scans very well).
I would like to hear your opinion on both roms. How good are the exlusive apps on HERO, is it fast on G1, whats the battery drain? What about google-nav or google-goggles on hero? Is the gui so much better (liked manila on WiMo)?
Some of you will say that i'll better flash and see myself, but i prefer to do research before i do something like that.
Thanks in Advance,
p.s Also, I'm using apps2sd, how can I backup my entire phone, as nandroid backups only stuff on handset.
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You can backup your "entire phone", which I'm assuming consists of your phones memory and the ext partition of your SD card, using Amon_RA's latest Recovery. It's very easy to restore that way if you're trying different ROMs and want to switch back and forth. I have a "base" image of Dwang's ROM with all the apps I run and set the way I like, which I've backed up this way. I've tried a couple of Hero/Sense ROMs, other Donut/Eclair ROMs, and have been able to restore back to Dwang's within 5 minutes.
Tried Hero and it was way too slow for my liking.
Cyanogen is a total win over other roms from my experience.
I'm anxious to see a Hero rom run as fast and efficient as a Cyanogen Rom one day.
Thanks for all your answers!
From what I read - I will stay with cyan. I prefer speed over eyecandy, flash 10 is coming next year to android. And... I like my gimmicks from 1.6 and some apps for show off (google goggles kills iPhone users )
The pdf random answer was also appreciated! (unfortunately beam reader is too slow for my liking, thinkfree is much faster, yet dosn't handle the scans very well - OCR are ok. I'm still on a quest to find something as fast as foxit for WiMo).
I will check Amon_Ra's backup, also interested to see how well the gods know their coding (amon Ra was Egyptian god of sun i think)
Thanks community!
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If I wanted to root my G1, but retain the stability of the Tmobile ROM, which would be the best path to follow? Reason for rooting is for the tether ability.
I LOVE the Hero interface, but it sounds kinda dicey on stability. Lag doesn't concern me too much, as long as it doesn't affect calls.
I need BlueTooth to sync to my car stereo (actually not sure of the stock ROM does that, got my G1 yesterday). Another must is the WIFI. GPS is a major gravy item, but not a must have. Really diggin the Bubble application. Would love to have a cooler looking clock like I see on Hero, but the retro from the market is not bad.
I don't really care much about playing music, and I will probably never use the camera.
Glad to have found this site, I am having waaaay too much fun with this phone.
captsammy said:
If I wanted to root my G1, but retain the stability of the Tmobile ROM, which would be the best path to follow? Reason for rooting is for the tether ability.
I LOVE the Hero interface, but it sounds kinda dicey on stability. Lag doesn't concern me too much, as long as it doesn't affect calls.
I need BlueTooth to sync to my car stereo (actually not sure of the stock ROM does that, got my G1 yesterday). Another must is the WIFI. GPS is a major gravy item, but not a must have. Really diggin the Bubble application. Would love to have a cooler looking clock like I see on Hero, but the retro from the market is not bad.
I don't really care much about playing music, and I will probably never use the camera.
Glad to have found this site, I am having waaaay too much fun with this phone.
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Cyanogen's latest non-experimental builds are probably your best bet. They're fast, stable, bluetooth, GPS, and of course WiFi.
If you want the awesome Hero Clock, look on the market for Beautiful Widgets or Weather Widget - donate for $1.49 or something like that.
captsammy said:
If I wanted to root my G1, but retain the stability of the Tmobile ROM, which would be the best path to follow? Reason for rooting is for the tether ability.
I LOVE the Hero interface, but it sounds kinda dicey on stability. Lag doesn't concern me too much, as long as it doesn't affect calls.
I need BlueTooth to sync to my car stereo (actually not sure of the stock ROM does that, got my G1 yesterday). Another must is the WIFI. GPS is a major gravy item, but not a must have. Really diggin the Bubble application. Would love to have a cooler looking clock like I see on Hero, but the retro from the market is not bad.
I don't really care much about playing music, and I will probably never use the camera.
Glad to have found this site, I am having waaaay too much fun with this phone.
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First...welcome to XDA, second...just make sure you don't fall victim to useless Threads or Post (Like most Noobs do) without doing some extensive searching, pretend your a Ninja creeping through the Forums learning and observing and when you feel confident...Attack!!! (Meaning make your Thread or Post) Clearly I'm not talking about this Thread as you posted in the correct section...so on to your question, you say you want stability well look no further than CyanogenMod v. 3.6.8.1 but if your feeling edgy then upgrade to CyanogenMod v. 3.9.1...obviously Root your G1 first and then flash Cyanogen's Recovery Image v. 1.4 to complete the ROM. Everything you need is here in XDA-Developers/Dream...have fun.
P.S. Since your a fan of Hero also, once your done everything I recommend flashing the Dark Hero theme.
Im kind of a fan boy myself i would say try haykuro's 5.0.2h or g build they stable and are the best looking roms without needing a theme or skin. Features are great its way to go if you ask mr or try his ion rom its fast and very stable but you lose features like exchange and a pdf viewer, etc.
katsup2005 said:
Im kind of a fan boy myself i would say try haykuro's 5.0.2h or g build they stable and are the best looking roms without needing a theme or skin. Features are great its way to go if you ask mr or try his ion rom its fast and very stable but you lose features like exchange and a pdf viewer, etc.
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The benefit you get with Cyanogen though is that he is constantly updating his ROM to make it faster and more stable.
Diceman4 said:
The benefit you get with Cyanogen though is that he is constantly updating his ROM to make it faster and more stable.
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+1 cyan 3.6.8.1 is great
cyanogen's rom is the best very stable n fast.
Recommend the CRC1 Based ROM here Or cyanogen!
I appreciate all the suggestions. I am still waiting for my SD card to arrive I am receiving an 8 gig card, what partition layout would best suite Cynogenmod?
captsammy said:
I appreciate all the suggestions. I am still waiting for my SD card to arrive I am receiving an 8 gig card, what partition layout would best suite Cynogenmod?
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fat32, ext2 (upgrade to ext3 using upgrade_fs command in recovery console). You can throw in linux-swap but you'll have to configure it your self with a a2sd script.
What size for each? Can I not start with ext3? My desktop is running Ubuntu.
captsammy said:
What size for each? Can I not start with ext3? My desktop is running Ubuntu.
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Use gparted. Ext3 should be about 600-700mb so give the rest for fat32. You must start with fat32 and then ext3. Must be in that order.
I recommend the Rogers Roms, they are designed for the Dream (G1) hardware and have the HTC Dialer and Exchange support (which Cyans will probably never have). Are super fast and stable.
How does the HTC dialer differ? Is there a "best" Rogers ROM?
captsammy said:
How does the HTC dialer differ? Is there a "best" Rogers ROM?
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bump for an answer to this?
Best rogers rom is Soulife's... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523608
HTC Dialer looks up contacts as you are dialing, it's really slick. You can type out a name via the numbers, or a number, it'll sort and bring up the matches from contacts. Soulife's rogers is MEGA stable, no force closes, lightning fast with the bonus features like Exchange and HTC Dialer.
Plus there is a version that doesn't require the new SPL if you wish to not risk a brick. In my opinion, this outshines Cyan's.
It comes stock with normal/factory theme. If you want there is a kickass Hero theme available as well for the ROM.
vr24 said:
I recommend the Rogers Roms, they are designed for the Dream (G1) hardware and have the HTC Dialer and Exchange support (which Cyans will probably never have). Are super fast and stable.
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Cyans roms have exchange support through an app called Work Email (pulled from a MyTouch), even in the stable 3.6.8.1 build. Although, 4.0 Stable is just around the corner, and its been significantly improved since the last STABLE release. Depends what you are looking for.....I've become somewhat fond of Cyanogen's constant updating, but the choice is yours....+1 for open source and CyanogenMod STABLE release
zimphishmonger said:
Cyans roms have exchange support through an app called Work Email (pulled from a MyTouch), even in the stable 3.6.8.1 build. Although, 4.0 Stable is just around the corner, and its been significantly improved since the last STABLE release. Depends what you are looking for.....I've become somewhat fond of Cyanogen's constant updating, but the choice is yours....+1 for open source and CyanogenMod STABLE release
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Work Email is not a real exchange a solution. It doesn't sync contacts or calendar.
You can get replacement dialers as well that also serch contacts when dialing... Its certainly one feature I miss from my N95 along with fast global search. I used an app once which enabled global search on the homescreen and it worked like a charm, sadly I've forgotten what it was called as I now use QuickDial for direct calls, texts and as a shortcut home for most used apps.
Going back to the original question though I haven't flashed any Hero ROMs due to speed (no matter how tempting it is!) so can only vouch for the Cupcake releases. As it stands Cyanogen's is the most recent and stable out there however Dude is also returning soon. If I had to pick one ROM then it would be Cyanogen's (Stable version, unless you're happy to deal with issues then pick the Experimental one).
NeoBlade said:
You can get replacement dialers as well that also serch contacts when dialing... Its certainly one feature I miss from my N95 along with fast global search. I used an app once which enabled global search on the homescreen and it worked like a charm, sadly I've forgotten what it was called as I now use QuickDial for direct calls, texts and as a shortcut home for most used apps.
Going back to the original question though I haven't flashed any Hero ROMs due to speed (no matter how tempting it is!) so can only vouch for the Cupcake releases. As it stands Cyanogen's is the most recent and stable out there however Dude is also returning soon. If I had to pick one ROM then it would be Cyanogen's (Stable version, unless you're happy to deal with issues then pick the Experimental one).
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Dude is actually working on Soulife's Rogers ROM now.
I am planning on buying a HTC G1, but after I read that there is only 192mb RAM I decided to wait.
I have a few questions:
1. Can you make a swapfile on the G1?
2. Would there be a big speed/stability difference with 192 and 256 RAM?
3. How does 2.0/2.1 run compared to 1.6?
I will be using this as a PDA, not a phone and will be doing lots of gaming and web browsing on it.
Thank you,
~moonscapex
Buy a Nexus......
I would, but I can't afford one
moonscapex said:
I would, but I can't afford one
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save up for one. Don't get a g1, it's already too outdated. save up and buy a good phone that'll last a while. By the time you have the money tucked away I'm sure you'll see phones even better than the nexus one.
Yes, I already have a high-end winmo PDA, so I am looking for a lower end Android phone.
I agree with others that say to get a different phone. I love my G1 to death, but there's no way I'd buy one today if I were in the market. It's just too limited.
That said, I'll try and answer your questions.
1. Yes, running swap is possible using a rooted phone and custom ROM. It's debated whether this actually helps any.
2. The 192 vs. 256 MB difference helps a great deal. There's just not a lot of memory left to run many apps and do much task switching on the newer iterations of the OS with only 192MB. The number of apps you can install is also limited by this number (unless you're running a rooted phone and installing apps to your SD card.)
3. On a G1, 2.0/2.1 is pretty slow. At this point I wouldn't use it as a daily use ROM.
The two functions you listed as your primary activities are the two things that the G1 does the worst. It's underpowered for a lot of games (not to mention the horrible battery life when you start playing games) and browsing the web can be a chore given the limited memory and CPU. It works great for basic things like email, maps/navigation, music, productivity apps, but it's pretty slow for other stuff.
OK, thank you. That is the kind of answer I was looking for. I will look into some other phones.
The G1 is ideal for what your looking for. Man people love to drift off don't they
Yeah they do...
Has anyone else tried Android 2.1 on their G1?
If you root it, in addition to the debatable swapping to the SD for more ram and cache, you can overclock the things. Probably a bit hard on your battery and might generate unacceptable heat, don't know. You might just get it up to 2/3's to 3/4th's the speed of a Nexus for the cost of a bigger battery. Maybe then you could run 2.1 effectively. Who knows.
I'd buy it used. They go for about $175 on ebay unlocked. If you screw it up you've not lost that much. You can resell your broken one on ebay for about $75
Regards, PK
Overall the G1 for me has just been fun to root and flash multiple roms. =P Some roms are moderately fast, but are limited to games as we have no video drivers
Thanks for the good answers. So the Open GL drivers are not available on the G1? And how easy is it to brick a G1. Ive flashed many roms on winmo with no problem.
EDIT: Yes I will overclock. Are the Vid drivers available on the Magic?
moonscapex said:
Thanks for the good answers. So the Open GL drivers are not available on the G1? And how easy is it to brick a G1. Ive flashed many roms on winmo with no problem.
EDIT: Yes I will overclock. Are the Vid drivers available on the Magic?
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Yeah they are
Personally
I preordered a G1... rooted it early in the beginnings of Haykuro and JF... and 16 months later I still say there isnt a replacement... I got a full upgrade and I still havent taken advantage... The N1 is nice, if you can live wo the hard keyboard... If you want a low end android, the G1 is a good starter phone...
I run both 2.1 and 1.6 roms.. The 1.6 roms are really fast, The 2.1 roms are worth having on your phone to show off... I can stream music on 3G from 8am to about 230-3pm at work on either so batt life is fine either way on a normal day...
I dont know what kind of gaming you do, but my old school emulators do the trick nicely run on any rom and with the hard keyboard controls are great... I use a ram hack that removes the 3d accelerator for another 8mb of usable ram, so I cant comment on 3d games...
Bricking a G1 is almost impossible now with all the good tutorials... the G1 is the easiest to root, hack, flash, customize... all that in my own eyes... Ive brought noobs down the rabbit hole and now they are cookin up roms and themes like crazy...
I on the other hand still patiently wait for a new bigger better stronger phone (with a hard keyboard) to replace my G1 and I know it will not be in the low end android bracket..
protomanez said:
Overall the G1 for me has just been fun to root and flash multiple roms. =P Some roms are moderately fast, but are limited to games as we have no video drivers
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My setiments exactly. Hate to say it but it's just fun to see or learn somthing new.
Good thread for Android noobes.
Regards, PK
So far I'm convinced about the G1, thanks everybody. When I found out that the keyboard on the magic would not work with a stylus, and only your fingers, it made it obvious for me.
PS: Can you disable the RAM hack without reflashing?
moonscapex said:
So far I'm convinced about the G1, thanks everybody. When I found out that the keyboard on the magic would not work with a stylus, and only your fingers, it made it obvious for me.
PS: Can you disable the RAM hack without reflashing?
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Not really. You must replace the kernel, so it's basically just as complicated as reflashing.
I'ts simple.
Flash the boot.img and reboot.
All gone.
(and vice versa)
you wont loose any data or anything.
I've recently purchased an HTC Vogue (Bell) and wasn't recommended to stray to Android ROMs as this is really my first time around, however, I was really impressed by the themes and how clean the interface looked.
I am currently on WM 6.1 and contemplating updating to 6.5+ or to Android. Some problems about 6.1 that I really didn't like were: the SMALL keyboard, bland looking threaded txt msgs, inability to play youtube (among other video/audio files) out the box.
I'd love to give Android a go, but wouldn't know where to start (must have apps/games, familiarity with OS, etc).
Any suggestions and help would be awesome.
Thanks!
r3ddrag0nx said:
I've recently purchased an HTC Vogue (Bell) and wasn't recommended to stray to Android ROMs as this is really my first time around, however, I was really impressed by the themes and how clean the interface looked.
I am currently on WM 6.1 and contemplating updating to 6.5+ or to Android. Some problems about 6.1 that I really didn't like were: the SMALL keyboard, bland looking threaded txt msgs, inability to play youtube (among other video/audio files) out the box.
I'd love to give Android a go, but wouldn't know where to start (must have apps/games, familiarity with OS, etc).
Any suggestions and help would be awesome.
Thanks!
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Go with an SD card build mate, you can test android out while leaving windows mobile untouched!, plenty of FAQ's and stuff on this forum to sort you out
Just install Android on Nand. It takes 10 minutes to flash back to winmo if you don't like it.
mfpreach said:
Just install Android on Nand. It takes 10 minutes to flash back to winmo if you don't like it.
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Run haret off the SD card first, all it takes to go back to winmo is a simple reboot
r3ddrag0nx said:
I've recently purchased an HTC Vogue (Bell) and wasn't recommended to stray to Android ROMs
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Who recommended you not "stray" to android roms? They must be crazy..... Honestly, from your dislikes of winmo, you will LOVE android, trust me. It has gotten to the point where it seems almost native to the device. I would look up tatnai's FAQ and try the sdcard/haret method just to get a good feel so you're not committed to a full flash. But I guarantee you'll be wanting to go to a full flash within no time.
See this thread for instructions, etc.: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628353
If you just want to try Android out, run it off of your SD card. Once you're ready to permanently move to Android, then you can install it to NAND. Keep in mind it's a bit laggier off of the SD card and the battery performance is worse.
Does Android support Divx, Xvid, quicktime, AVIs, and various other types of video/audio?
Well, it can play youtube videos. Divx and avi (not too sure about).
Personally, this is why i switched to android:
Apps! Apps! Apps!
Widgets and icons
Fast and fluid interface
Its modern and up to date
Vogue Community seems to be shifting android (personal gut feeling)
Not having to worry about customizing my phone as much as i did with windows mobile.
Subtle android features that windows mobile on vogue doesnt have (i.e. animation when you open and close apps, slide down notification curton, web based apps )
Android is Perfect for My everyday use
What i miss from Windows Mobile:
My Garmin GPS
Taking Higher resolution/ better quality pictures.
I may be missing things... someone who is android biased help me out!
One more reason to love android "Sense UI"
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Here are some screenshots.
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wow... sense is epic... sucks i just flashed to 6.5 too.
i kno winmo has a lot of apps too just gotta find some nice ones to install now on b-rom's release (mighty fine release too).
gps doesnt work on android yet?
r3ddrag0nx said:
wow... sense is epic... sucks i just flashed to 6.5 too.
i kno winmo has a lot of apps too just gotta find some nice ones to install now on b-rom's release (mighty fine release too).
gps doesnt work on android yet?
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gps works great on android, it actually gets a better fix on android then on winmo
I recently switched to Android on my vogue and love it! Sd card install just to make sure you like it, then nand.
i have been experimenting with droid since i got my Vogue a year ago with haret. the beauty of droid is its smooth and clean, and its not M$. there are pros and cons to both... first ill suggest get off 6.1- there is no hope for that build. there are plenty of builds either here or on ppcgeeks.com you can pick and choose what you want to or not to have. now you can also flash android NAND here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636024
i prefer android hero builds as i feel they are just 'cooler' but i ran into an issue with the last build i used and have been experimenting with some of the other builds out there. currently using MYN's warm donut located
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619980
there are some pretty cool themes there as well.
from the skeptics and paranoid perspective, i read and read for months until i flashed my first rom. dont do anything til you are ready. there are plenty of smart folks here to help you.
read read read, subscribe, and ask questions when you need to.
also remember, the search tab is your friend, i can almost guarantee, if you have a problem (android or otherwise) someone has morethan likely had it. there are a couple where there are new threads needed.
i cant express enough, there are alot of good folks here to help if you need it. they made a believer out of me!!
do your research, and move at your own comfort level.
best of luck
YEahh.. i'm in the same boat as you.. like i love android, and all my friends have it on there droid eris.. but i'm affraid to flash, and not be able to go back (if needed). Like can i go back? and is everything working on 1.6 android build?? (like texts, calls, and camera?) i'm reading, but some of this stuff is just SO confusing..
MarkkInNj said:
YEahh.. i'm in the same boat as you.. like i love android, and all my friends have it on there droid eris.. but i'm affraid to flash, and not be able to go back (if needed). Like can i go back? and is everything working on 1.6 android build?? (like texts, calls, and camera?) i'm reading, but some of this stuff is just SO confusing..
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Just use haret, it's not rocket science, or even hard.
MarkkInNj said:
YEahh.. i'm in the same boat as you.. like i love android, and all my friends have it on there droid eris.. but i'm affraid to flash, and not be able to go back (if needed). Like can i go back? and is everything working on 1.6 android build?? (like texts, calls, and camera?) i'm reading, but some of this stuff is just SO confusing..
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i thought everything was pretty confusing at first too. its actually all pretty simple. everything works on 1.6 except camcorder/mms(sending works on verizon and receiving works on sprint)/wifi. i was scared to death when i flashed android to my phone but its as easy as 123. just try android from your sdcard first and if you like it(which you will) then you can do some research on how to flash it.
Can I use a 4GB card to try Android from SD on a Bell Vogue (XV6900?) or do I require a 2GB micro sd card?
Also, if I decide to actually flash the phone, do I need to unlock it first, then install Android to NAND?
I have been doing so much reading, I am getting confused...easy to confuse an old guy!
dsmturbo said:
Can I use a 4GB card to try Android from SD on a Bell Vogue (XV6900?) or do I require a 2GB micro sd card?
Also, if I decide to actually flash the phone, do I need to unlock it first, then install Android to NAND?
I have been doing so much reading, I am getting confused...easy to confuse an old guy!
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you can install android with any sd card, but you can only flash a rom from sd card with a 2gb size and lower.
if you do just a haret run then you don't need to unlock, however when you install to NAND you do have to unlock it inorder to flash a rom
Made the jump from SD to NAND today and have to say its running faster and better than ever. Its worth the jump.
cp0020 said:
i thought everything was pretty confusing at first too. its actually all pretty simple. everything works on 1.6 except camcorder/mms(sending works on verizon and receiving works on sprint)/wifi. i was scared to death when i flashed android to my phone but its as easy as 123. just try android from your sdcard first and if you like it(which you will) then you can do some research on how to flash it.
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Hmm.. maybe thats why i cant recieve a text on my sd lol i have verizon. But people can get them but it gives me an error message. But i need texting..
Hmmm..
I have an HTC Hero and one of my many questions is do you think Sprint and HTC will make a Hero 2 ... maybe with a 3.5" or lil bigger (not a monster sized phone) with either a good 1ghz processor or even a dual core and maybe keep the "track Ball" but lose all the other buttons make them all capacitive touch ..... thoughts or opinions ?
I do believe that the Hero has been very successful for both HTC and Sprint.
Ok back to me and My Hero I am not a developer and I am new to the rom switching game. I love the crisp look of the factory Sense UI, but I am one of those types that sees things differently. I look at things and say to myself how could we improve on this or how can we make it faster and keep it looking good. I found this website, and pretty much changed my Hero into a Super Hero so to say.
I also would like to say thanks to all of the great developers on the CDMA Hero side, so far I have tried almost every variety of rom and different mod on my Hero (have screenshots once I get out of the probation period I will post them)
So far I figured out the easiest way for me to root my hero is with one of two I found floating around these forums, Hero Root by regaw leinad or super1click v1.7 ..... I also figured out that firerat's mod is easier the data2ext if your nat really familiar with adb. I also have found three more programs to help a lot, droid explorer, android commander and qtadb.
My question to all Hero owners what do you think is the best all around ROM, Gapps, and other mods as of May 8th 2011? (I am just looking for opinions I read almost every thread on this site and I would just like to see it all together call me lazy)
All this and I have not "bricked" my Hero .... must be one tough s.o.b.
To answer your first question, I just don't see a revised Hero in the works. It has a been a great phone for many users and Sprint alike I'm sure, but the Hero is not likely to reappear simply because it doesn't really conform to what HTC is doing with most of their phones now (4-4.3 inches, capacitive buttons, similar super thin form factor). I definitely don't think they would put a trackball in, because even if there were a trackpad on a new device it's almost guaranteed to be optical. If there were to be a refresh, I definitely think we would have heard something by now considering the lifespan of the Hero.
As for roms, I'd definitely suggest playing around with AOSP or CM7 versions of Gingerbread. You may find that you prefer greater customizations than you get with Sense. However, if you really really dig Sense and would much rather have it, there's a great group of guys developing Sense 2.1 for Gingerbread on the Hero. It's in Alpha right now, but even considering that, it's a fantastic piece of work. As far as Gapps go, I would just stick to the latest ones provided at the Cyanogenmod wiki. I don't really apply other mods as I personally don't think I need any, but YMMV.
i for one love the design its the perfect size for me and as far as the processor goes once i overclocked it a little bit its plenty fast enough for me because i dont really install a ton of apps and as far as gaming goes i have a ps3 for that lol so it really is the perfect phone for me all the new ones are just to big i think.
and ive had the hero sense september and i had a mt3g before that.
OMGB
I have been running OMGB for the past 8 hrs I am using wifi only browsed the web for a while, cut grass listened to some MP3's and browsed the web some more and more MP3's I listened to MP3's for a couple hours (with the MIUI player found in the forums) and it shows pretty good battery life
I would also like to add that I am using the
opengles tweak to show supported version 1.1 (not 100% sure why I did it ... maybe just to say I did it successfully)
s0be's kernel AP5, unCoRrUpTeD data2ext V2.2, and the MIUI music player and camera apks
I like the bare minimalist look and feel this rom has, but I still dont have a true favorite .... variety is such a sweet thing and all these choices .... and most of the people I know dont even know what an HTC Hero is .... if its not a iLemon or if it doesnt say DROID (like in the commercials) they just dont "get it"
ok found the first flaw ..... lol
my market says verizon where i would normaly see Sprint and had my first FC
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jmphillips76 said:
ok found the first flaw ..... lol
my market says verizon where i would normaly see Sprint and had my first FC
Sent from my HeroC using XDA App
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If you like the Sense UI Look, Checkout my "ExEnHeroC" Rom, the Links Below... (In my Signature)
It's a 2.2 Froyo Rom, and I know you said your kind a New to all the Rom/Rooting stuff so I'll let you know Before hand when a (GSM) Phones Ported to our (CDMA) Hero Not Everything Works!! But Most of the Important Everyday things Work! Check it out, See if you like it!
But for the Most Part its...
Faster, Smoother, and Filled with a Whole Lot More Goodies...
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA Premium App
I did checked it out and I liked a lot also .... it is silky smooth and I liked the main clock widget and how the status bar wasn't white ...
PMGRANDS said:
If you like the Sense UI Look, Checkout my "ExEnHeroC" Rom, the Links Below... (In my Signature)
It's a 2.2 Froyo Rom, and I know you said your kind a New to all the Rom/Rooting stuff so I'll let you know Before hand when a (GSM) Phones Ported to our (CDMA) Hero Not Everything Works!! But Most of the Important Everyday things Work! Check it out, See if you like it!
But for the Most Part its...
Faster, Smoother, and Filled with a Whole Lot More Goodies...
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA Premium App
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I have had about enough of CyanogenMod. Been using it since 5, and every single version has had significant usability problems. Currently in 7.0.3 photos are bad, GPS is non-functional, it forgets settings like keyboard, and when I first answer the phone no one can hear me.
Terrible. There has got to be something better. If not I'm going to stock.
You can use MIUI ROM
Enomther's
It's not gingerbread but is by far the most stable and the fastest.
There's many ROM on this forum, you are free to use which ever make you happy.
CM7 has been great for me since the first nightly.
Autinhyeu seriously? Like RoDrIgUeZsTyLe, or straight MIUI?
Are most functions stable?
baseballfanz I'm glad you've had such luck. Many of us haven't. I'm looking for feedback of others' experiences on which ROMs seem to work the best. I already know which one I'm not using anymore.
Quantumstate said:
I have had about enough of CyanogenMod. Been using it since 5, and every single version has had significant usability problems. Currently in 7.0.3 photos are bad, GPS is non-functional, it forgets settings like keyboard, and when I first answer the phone no one can hear me.
Terrible. There has got to be something better. If not I'm going to stock.
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I'd never be able to go stock after i used CM for the first time . It might have some flaws but its the best there is & has no alternative .
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Autinhyeu seriously? Like RoDrIgUeZsTyLe, or straight MIUI?
Are most functions stable?
baseballfanz I'm glad you've had such luck. Many of us haven't. I'm looking for feedback of others' experiences on which ROMs seem to work the best. I already know which one I'm not using anymore.
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Yes, MIUIMOD from Rod
i had use MIUI Stock 4 months ago, then i use CM 7 nightly build, and now, i comeback MIUI with MIUIMOD ROM, after a week use, with some tutorial, i think its best for my phone at the moment, hehe... some user dont want use MIUI, because it like as iOS but i dont care, it gives me comfort & i use it...
With MIUIMOD, you will have more than free Internal memory and RAM memory...
anyway, i saw dont more difference between the CM7 and MIUI, you can choice
With CM all I had to do was wipe and use Amon Ra to flash zip.
There are no instructions with RoDrIgUeZsTyLe except "MIUIMOD D2SD HowTo", which only seems to do with partitioning. Do partitions actually need to be changed, and if so why?
How to apply the ROM and why aren't there instructions?
Also he says, " (Please Read the D2SD HowTo)", but there's no link and a search doesn't turn it up.
MIUI is pretty good
Which one? I've found four so far, including one that seems to have Chinese buttons.
Quantumstate said:
With CM all I had to do was wipe and use Amon Ra to flash zip.
There are no instructions with RoDrIgUeZsTyLe except "MIUIMOD D2SD HowTo", which only seems to do with partitioning. Do partitions actually need to be changed, and if so why?
How to apply the ROM and why aren't there instructions?
Also he says, " (Please Read the D2SD HowTo)", but there's no link and a search doesn't turn it up.
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Goto Rod's thread i will help you, if i can :d
Sent from my MIUIMOD using XDA Premium App
You should definitely go for QND MIUI
Used it from the beginning and I'm loving it. It's stock MIUI with XJ's multilanguage pack, so it's just like MIUI is supposed to be. No junk or ugly themes added
I also get the delayed connection when I answer calls but besides that CM7 is the best there is.Some debate MIUI is better but its a matter of the individuals likes/dislikes. Also the themes and control of customization on CM7 IMO by far surpasses any other rom out there currently so you should prolly stick w/ CM. Hopefully the next stable release fixes the bugs your speaking of
Mouse I've been patient with CM since version 5, and I am fed up.
The good news is I am really digging this MIUIMod. Seems much more modern, smooth, and usable than CM. Have just now gotten things set up so it remains to be seen how well things work, but the camera is sure better and that's a biggie for me.
Takes forever to boot (no big deal) and I am missing my Galaxy wallpaper, but I am:
Digging it.
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Which one? I've found four so far, including one that seems to have Chinese buttons.
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flash away then and see what one you like the best thats what its all about...i would just use stock miui from either here or miui-dev if you are that finicky about roms
I just have so much to set up that it takes about a day. This is one thing that was so irritating abut CM; in order to correct atrocious usability bugs I'd have to completely reinstall each month and start all over again. I started with Rodriguez today and that's fine so far except for the lack of Galaxy wallpaper. Still have alot to learn about MIUI. Lucky it's Saturday...
You could always to CM6.x if you like CM's features.
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Autinhyeu seriously? Like RoDrIgUeZsTyLe, or straight MIUI?
Are most functions stable?
baseballfanz I'm glad you've had such luck. Many of us haven't. I'm looking for feedback of others' experiences on which ROMs seem to work the best. I already know which one I'm not using anymore.
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So much has been fixed and improved in the latest cyan nightlies over 7.0.3 that you prob should try that out first.
Have you given any of eVilD's sense roms? NXSense and NXSense HD have been working pretty well for me, although nobody can beat MIUI battery life and cuatomuzability
Haven't checked out the Sense ROMs.
MIUI is very nice so far. Desktops rotate like a cube and other nice effects. It's like a 21st century iPhone except without the restrictions, not a 20th century Windows-like CM phone. And I've found the Galaxy wallpaper in the market. My desktops are games|multimedia|default|appts/calendar|utilities. There is no launcher place where all the apps are; all apps are on desktops, but you can put apps inside a folder app which is very handy. Those apps I use are on desktops, those I rarely use are in Apps, Utilities, Multimedia, and Unused folders. No more screenshot app needed; it's Menu:VolDown now.
GPS still has problems, and still some things I haven't figured out. I need to put contacts into folders in the contacts app. With CM I'd put them into one contact and change the label to Custom with their name in it. That is only simulating folders though. Wish there were a better way or an app that could handle folders. Edit: Hey, Contacts has something called Groups, which just may be the ticket! Experimenting.
Does anyone know why DroidWall is no longer in the Market? That is my most valued app to keep out G**gle's prying eyes.