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Most stable ROM?

If I wanted to root my G1, but retain the stability of the Tmobile ROM, which would be the best path to follow? Reason for rooting is for the tether ability.
I LOVE the Hero interface, but it sounds kinda dicey on stability. Lag doesn't concern me too much, as long as it doesn't affect calls.
I need BlueTooth to sync to my car stereo (actually not sure of the stock ROM does that, got my G1 yesterday). Another must is the WIFI. GPS is a major gravy item, but not a must have. Really diggin the Bubble application. Would love to have a cooler looking clock like I see on Hero, but the retro from the market is not bad.
I don't really care much about playing music, and I will probably never use the camera.
Glad to have found this site, I am having waaaay too much fun with this phone.

captsammy said:
If I wanted to root my G1, but retain the stability of the Tmobile ROM, which would be the best path to follow? Reason for rooting is for the tether ability.
I LOVE the Hero interface, but it sounds kinda dicey on stability. Lag doesn't concern me too much, as long as it doesn't affect calls.
I need BlueTooth to sync to my car stereo (actually not sure of the stock ROM does that, got my G1 yesterday). Another must is the WIFI. GPS is a major gravy item, but not a must have. Really diggin the Bubble application. Would love to have a cooler looking clock like I see on Hero, but the retro from the market is not bad.
I don't really care much about playing music, and I will probably never use the camera.
Glad to have found this site, I am having waaaay too much fun with this phone.
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Cyanogen's latest non-experimental builds are probably your best bet. They're fast, stable, bluetooth, GPS, and of course WiFi.
If you want the awesome Hero Clock, look on the market for Beautiful Widgets or Weather Widget - donate for $1.49 or something like that.

captsammy said:
If I wanted to root my G1, but retain the stability of the Tmobile ROM, which would be the best path to follow? Reason for rooting is for the tether ability.
I LOVE the Hero interface, but it sounds kinda dicey on stability. Lag doesn't concern me too much, as long as it doesn't affect calls.
I need BlueTooth to sync to my car stereo (actually not sure of the stock ROM does that, got my G1 yesterday). Another must is the WIFI. GPS is a major gravy item, but not a must have. Really diggin the Bubble application. Would love to have a cooler looking clock like I see on Hero, but the retro from the market is not bad.
I don't really care much about playing music, and I will probably never use the camera.
Glad to have found this site, I am having waaaay too much fun with this phone.
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First...welcome to XDA, second...just make sure you don't fall victim to useless Threads or Post (Like most Noobs do) without doing some extensive searching, pretend your a Ninja creeping through the Forums learning and observing and when you feel confident...Attack!!! (Meaning make your Thread or Post) Clearly I'm not talking about this Thread as you posted in the correct section...so on to your question, you say you want stability well look no further than CyanogenMod v. 3.6.8.1 but if your feeling edgy then upgrade to CyanogenMod v. 3.9.1...obviously Root your G1 first and then flash Cyanogen's Recovery Image v. 1.4 to complete the ROM. Everything you need is here in XDA-Developers/Dream...have fun.
P.S. Since your a fan of Hero also, once your done everything I recommend flashing the Dark Hero theme.

Im kind of a fan boy myself i would say try haykuro's 5.0.2h or g build they stable and are the best looking roms without needing a theme or skin. Features are great its way to go if you ask mr or try his ion rom its fast and very stable but you lose features like exchange and a pdf viewer, etc.

katsup2005 said:
Im kind of a fan boy myself i would say try haykuro's 5.0.2h or g build they stable and are the best looking roms without needing a theme or skin. Features are great its way to go if you ask mr or try his ion rom its fast and very stable but you lose features like exchange and a pdf viewer, etc.
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The benefit you get with Cyanogen though is that he is constantly updating his ROM to make it faster and more stable.

Diceman4 said:
The benefit you get with Cyanogen though is that he is constantly updating his ROM to make it faster and more stable.
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+1 cyan 3.6.8.1 is great

cyanogen's rom is the best very stable n fast.

Recommend the CRC1 Based ROM here Or cyanogen!

I appreciate all the suggestions. I am still waiting for my SD card to arrive I am receiving an 8 gig card, what partition layout would best suite Cynogenmod?

captsammy said:
I appreciate all the suggestions. I am still waiting for my SD card to arrive I am receiving an 8 gig card, what partition layout would best suite Cynogenmod?
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fat32, ext2 (upgrade to ext3 using upgrade_fs command in recovery console). You can throw in linux-swap but you'll have to configure it your self with a a2sd script.

What size for each? Can I not start with ext3? My desktop is running Ubuntu.

captsammy said:
What size for each? Can I not start with ext3? My desktop is running Ubuntu.
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Use gparted. Ext3 should be about 600-700mb so give the rest for fat32. You must start with fat32 and then ext3. Must be in that order.

I recommend the Rogers Roms, they are designed for the Dream (G1) hardware and have the HTC Dialer and Exchange support (which Cyans will probably never have). Are super fast and stable.

How does the HTC dialer differ? Is there a "best" Rogers ROM?

captsammy said:
How does the HTC dialer differ? Is there a "best" Rogers ROM?
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bump for an answer to this?

Best rogers rom is Soulife's... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523608
HTC Dialer looks up contacts as you are dialing, it's really slick. You can type out a name via the numbers, or a number, it'll sort and bring up the matches from contacts. Soulife's rogers is MEGA stable, no force closes, lightning fast with the bonus features like Exchange and HTC Dialer.
Plus there is a version that doesn't require the new SPL if you wish to not risk a brick. In my opinion, this outshines Cyan's.
It comes stock with normal/factory theme. If you want there is a kickass Hero theme available as well for the ROM.

vr24 said:
I recommend the Rogers Roms, they are designed for the Dream (G1) hardware and have the HTC Dialer and Exchange support (which Cyans will probably never have). Are super fast and stable.
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Cyans roms have exchange support through an app called Work Email (pulled from a MyTouch), even in the stable 3.6.8.1 build. Although, 4.0 Stable is just around the corner, and its been significantly improved since the last STABLE release. Depends what you are looking for.....I've become somewhat fond of Cyanogen's constant updating, but the choice is yours....+1 for open source and CyanogenMod STABLE release

zimphishmonger said:
Cyans roms have exchange support through an app called Work Email (pulled from a MyTouch), even in the stable 3.6.8.1 build. Although, 4.0 Stable is just around the corner, and its been significantly improved since the last STABLE release. Depends what you are looking for.....I've become somewhat fond of Cyanogen's constant updating, but the choice is yours....+1 for open source and CyanogenMod STABLE release
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Work Email is not a real exchange a solution. It doesn't sync contacts or calendar.

You can get replacement dialers as well that also serch contacts when dialing... Its certainly one feature I miss from my N95 along with fast global search. I used an app once which enabled global search on the homescreen and it worked like a charm, sadly I've forgotten what it was called as I now use QuickDial for direct calls, texts and as a shortcut home for most used apps.
Going back to the original question though I haven't flashed any Hero ROMs due to speed (no matter how tempting it is!) so can only vouch for the Cupcake releases. As it stands Cyanogen's is the most recent and stable out there however Dude is also returning soon. If I had to pick one ROM then it would be Cyanogen's (Stable version, unless you're happy to deal with issues then pick the Experimental one).

NeoBlade said:
You can get replacement dialers as well that also serch contacts when dialing... Its certainly one feature I miss from my N95 along with fast global search. I used an app once which enabled global search on the homescreen and it worked like a charm, sadly I've forgotten what it was called as I now use QuickDial for direct calls, texts and as a shortcut home for most used apps.
Going back to the original question though I haven't flashed any Hero ROMs due to speed (no matter how tempting it is!) so can only vouch for the Cupcake releases. As it stands Cyanogen's is the most recent and stable out there however Dude is also returning soon. If I had to pick one ROM then it would be Cyanogen's (Stable version, unless you're happy to deal with issues then pick the Experimental one).
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Dude is actually working on Soulife's Rogers ROM now.

Hero vs Cyan ROM

Hi,
I searched the forums but haven't found sufficient information on the comparison between hero and cyan roms.
I am using Cyan since day i've got mu G1 (which was about a month) and I'm happy with it. Had some problems with sat-nav due to 1.6 firmware, but otherwise, the phone does (and looks thanks to enoch) what I want.
But...
I hear (read) that hero has better music player and flash support. Also, HTC pdf viewer is better than any other pdf viewer alivaible right now (very important for me, I read a lot of OCRed and picture-scan pdfs, thinkfree pdf doesn't handle the scans very well).
I would like to hear your opinion on both roms. How good are the exlusive apps on HERO, is it fast on G1, whats the battery drain? What about google-nav or google-goggles on hero? Is the gui so much better (liked manila on WiMo)?
Some of you will say that i'll better flash and see myself, but i prefer to do research before i do something like that.
Thanks in Advance,
p.s Also, I'm using apps2sd, how can I backup my entire phone, as nandroid backups only stuff on handset.

Cybrasty said:
Hi,
I searched the forums but haven't found sufficient information on the comparison between hero and cyan roms.
I am using Cyan since day i've got mu G1 (which was about a month) and I'm happy with it. Had some problems with sat-nav due to 1.6 firmware, but otherwise, the phone does (and looks thanks to enoch) what I want.
But...
I hear (read) that hero has better music player and flash support. Also, HTC pdf viewer is better than any other pdf viewer alivaible right now (very important for me, I read a lot of OCRed and picture-scan pdfs, thinkfree pdf doesn't handle the scans very well).
I would like to hear your opinion on both roms. How good are the exlusive apps on HERO, is it fast on G1, whats the battery drain? What about google-nav or google-goggles on hero? Is the gui so much better (liked manila on WiMo)?
Some of you will say that i'll better flash and see myself, but i prefer to do research before i do something like that.
Thanks in Advance,
p.s Also, I'm using apps2sd, how can I backup my entire phone, as nandroid backups only stuff on handset.
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Apples vs Oranges.
I use both roms frequently and the difference of the two is vast.
Cyanogen Rom's
Have bluetooth
Fast!
Stable!
Running 1.6 firmware with a pinch of 2.0
No flash
GUI is meh
Hero (depending on which rom)
Flash! (only Flash 9)
Better UI
More social options integrated (such as twitter, facebook, etc)
SLOWER THAN STOCK ROM (my opinion)
May require a reboot when it gets laggy
No bluetooth
No homescreen orientation
Running on 1.5 firmware
Note... I'd hate to say it though... if you said that you can't find anything in your searches then I would not recommend trying Hero. It requires steps that may brick your phone. If you're not competent enough to find the answers above then you are likely not qualified to use Hero. I don't mean to be a jerk about it and I am not trying to flame you... I'm just trying to give you the cold, hard truth before you end up with a $200+ piece of garbage.
But... hey... who am I to say? It's yours to lose.

just wanted to chime in here... have you tried BeamReader - it's a pdf viewer and I've been using it since it came out. It's pretty slick and quite good.

nmw407 said:
just wanted to chime in here... have you tried BeamReader - it's a pdf viewer and I've been using it since it came out. It's pretty slick and quite good.
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What does that have to do with the subject at hand???

nmw407 said:
just wanted to chime in here... have you tried BeamReader - it's a pdf viewer and I've been using it since it came out. It's pretty slick and quite good.
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That was TOTALLY random LOL

I said chimed in cause he mentioned the HTC pdf viewer, I'm giving him an alternative since cyan's rom doesn't come with it. So if cyan is the way for him to go, then it's an alternative

nmw407 said:
I said chimed in cause he mentioned the HTC pdf viewer, I'm giving him an alternative since cyan's rom doesn't come with it. So if cyan is the way for him to go, then it's an alternative
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Htc viewer is ok, not all that great.

Cybrasty said:
Hi,
I searched the forums but haven't found sufficient information on the comparison between hero and cyan roms.
I am using Cyan since day i've got mu G1 (which was about a month) and I'm happy with it. Had some problems with sat-nav due to 1.6 firmware, but otherwise, the phone does (and looks thanks to enoch) what I want.
But...
I hear (read) that hero has better music player and flash support. Also, HTC pdf viewer is better than any other pdf viewer alivaible right now (very important for me, I read a lot of OCRed and picture-scan pdfs, thinkfree pdf doesn't handle the scans very well).
I would like to hear your opinion on both roms. How good are the exlusive apps on HERO, is it fast on G1, whats the battery drain? What about google-nav or google-goggles on hero? Is the gui so much better (liked manila on WiMo)?
Some of you will say that i'll better flash and see myself, but i prefer to do research before i do something like that.
Thanks in Advance,
p.s Also, I'm using apps2sd, how can I backup my entire phone, as nandroid backups only stuff on handset.
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You can backup your "entire phone", which I'm assuming consists of your phones memory and the ext partition of your SD card, using Amon_RA's latest Recovery. It's very easy to restore that way if you're trying different ROMs and want to switch back and forth. I have a "base" image of Dwang's ROM with all the apps I run and set the way I like, which I've backed up this way. I've tried a couple of Hero/Sense ROMs, other Donut/Eclair ROMs, and have been able to restore back to Dwang's within 5 minutes.

Tried Hero and it was way too slow for my liking.
Cyanogen is a total win over other roms from my experience.
I'm anxious to see a Hero rom run as fast and efficient as a Cyanogen Rom one day.

Thanks for all your answers!
From what I read - I will stay with cyan. I prefer speed over eyecandy, flash 10 is coming next year to android. And... I like my gimmicks from 1.6 and some apps for show off (google goggles kills iPhone users )
The pdf random answer was also appreciated! (unfortunately beam reader is too slow for my liking, thinkfree is much faster, yet dosn't handle the scans very well - OCR are ok. I'm still on a quest to find something as fast as foxit for WiMo).
I will check Amon_Ra's backup, also interested to see how well the gods know their coding (amon Ra was Egyptian god of sun i think)
Thanks community!

Newb Android and DualBoot Questions

I want to switch my phone over to Android from Win Mobile but tethering is very important to me.
1. Is there a performance drawback to use GenY DualBoot? Is it better to just install one of the Android builds?
2. I'm on a stock ROM. If I flash that will I lose my current Win Mobile build?
Thanks for any help.

jimbo42 said:
I want to switch my phone over to Android from Win Mobile but tethering is very important to me.
1. Is there a performance drawback to use GenY DualBoot? Is it better to just install one of the Android builds?
2. I'm on a stock ROM. If I flash that will I lose my current Win Mobile build?
Thanks for any help.
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Yeah, SDCard / HaRET / DualBoot generally has slightly worse performance in Android. It's not huge, but it is a little laggier. It really depends on your SDCard. I have a class 6 SDHC card, and I generally noticed it was about 70-80% as fast as NAND. Cheaper/lower performing SD cards will be worse.
You can still tether in Android. There's TetherBlue, EasyTether, and PDANet for Android.
I think with TetherBlue you need to be using the 480x320 resolution to see it in the Market. EasyTether is free, but the free version restricts secure http sites (https).
I've been using Android from NAND for about 2 weeks now, and I can say I have no desire to go back to 6.5.3. Android is so much more responsive. Gmail is great. Internet Browsing is much better. The best part is, it actually _works_ as a phone (using WinMobile phone features never was pleasant...).

Thanks! I have a good project for the weekend and maybe I'll start liking my phone again. I'll go the NAND route, and see what fun apps I can find.

jimbo42 said:
Thanks! I have a good project for the weekend and maybe I'll start liking my phone again. I'll go the NAND route, and see what fun apps I can find.
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Im a newb as well and I just did the SD card install of Myn's build. it was a lot easier than expected and works like a champ!

Android ROM

What do you guys think? Do you wanna have a Android ROM, and please tell why.

wesjeex3 said:
What do you guys think? Do you wanna have a Android ROM, and please tell why.
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Because in can make this phone useable...

Yes, because I would like to have a smooth operating system.

+1 to the idea but i think the problems with backlight should be top priority

Not yet, because many things are not working and for example now you can restart device and use WM for gps. This would not be possible with rom.
But when most things are sorted out, ROM would be a great option.

I agree with you matejdro, android is working okay now but not good enough. A couple of things aren't working which are important to use.

i think before a ROM can even be considered, android needs to be able to recognise all hardware and then it needs to be able to work with all hardware. once android is at this stage, it could then be made into a ROM.

Nice system to use and two xperia one with wm one with Android, but too manny issue yet

Yes, I would very much like to see an Android ROM for the Xperia, for the following reasons:
1. I don't like WinMo that much, and I would be happy to replace it on my Xperia altogether in favor of my favorite OS.
2. It's over a year since I last used the Xperia as my main device, and I mainly use it for experimentation now, so I wouldn't mind an Android ROM even if the port still is a bit buggy.
3. You wouldn't have to launch Haret in order to run it.
4. Correct me if I'm wrong, but when you launch Android through Haret, it isn't run concurrently with Windows Mobile, right? But still, having a dedicated ROM ought to speed up Android a bit, when it's not launched through WinMo.
5. The internal storage is faster than memory cards, so that would speed up things a bit as well.
I'm really looking forward to an Android ROM, just wish I could do more to help making it
Thanks

Yes, but, it is needed a working screen light/bluetooth/gps/headphones
it is still not working in android.
But, i wouldn't rewrite ROM to android. For me is better to use heater.exe. 2 minutes(just like windows) and android is ready!

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Yes, but, it is needed a working screen light/bluetooth/gps/headphones
it is still not working in android.
But, i wouldn't rewrite ROM to android. For me is better to use heater.exe. 2 minutes(just like windows) and android is ready!
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u mean HaRET not heater right? xD

indy.89 said:
i think before a ROM can even be considered, android needs to be able to recognise all hardware and then it needs to be able to work with all hardware. once android is at this stage, it could then be made into a ROM.
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but before making a ROM every thing wud e fixed then only a ROM can be made out of it not before fixing every thing

broknheart_008 said:
but before making a ROM every thing wud e fixed then only a ROM can be made out of it not before fixing every thing
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thats not true, you could probably make a ROM out of android as it is now, you just wouldnt have windows mobile to fall back on, and your battery would drain instantly!

Yes, but ill wait till all things will be fixed.

Xperia is the perfect phone for android rom.
The disign and construction is thinner and most elegant than any other android phone, even nexus....
I can donate for working rom, and also be an betta tester.

+1
Yeah I would really like to have an Android rom for my Xperia. There are no good phones with qwerty keyboards on Android. Couple of HTC phones have keyboard and Android on them, but their hardware is not impressive at all.
I might be getting a Xperia X10 soon, but it doesn't have a keyboard. I find keyboard is important for me, but there is no point in buying phones like HTC hero as I have X1.
As long as Samsung S pro doesn't comes out I would love have an Android ROM on my X1.

rom instead of windows
it would be nice to see it in reverse, android rom working as main boot and run windows on sd card
so if you need to have gps, or send mms (TP2 you cant) so if you can here I did not say a thing.
anyways whatever is not working and you really really need to use it then boot winmobile.
+1 on beta test. I do not have a gsm carrier, but if selected I will go and buy a prepaid sim or just pay month to month on the new tmobile plan
pm me thanks
but to answer your question why a rom, the battery is a drain huge. and just love to show it to the others "Droid" users, what their device CAN'T

I WANA HAVE IT I WANNA HAVE IT!!!!
But i WAnt to have the HERO interface on my X1..i really really like Hero...

circleofomega said:
I WANA HAVE IT I WANNA HAVE IT!!!!
But i WAnt to have the HERO interface on my X1..i really really like Hero...
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HERO INTERFACE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641021

dexteral said:
HERO INTERFACE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641021
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This didnt work for me :S
It booted but was stuck on the HTC Hero boot-up screen... Then it looped repeatedly...
Any help?

N00b question

I have my HTC Vogue Touch flashed to android... Just foud out I have a free upgrade from Sprint and thinking about the HTC Hero..
doing some research before I get it as I love customizing this stuff and there looks to be plenty of ROMs here...
my first question being: aside from apps2sd what is the main reason for booting these ROMs? It even looks like the camera doesn't work in many of them. (which surprised me considering the phone is droid - stock)..
second question: I can see the rooting guides but not how to flash the HERo to any of these ROMs.. or am I missing something here?
Thanks..

Sputnikk23 said:
I have my HTC Vogue Touch flashed to android... Just foud out I have a free upgrade from Sprint and thinking about the HTC Hero..
doing some research before I get it as I love customizing this stuff and there looks to be plenty of ROMs here...
my first question being: aside from apps2sd what is the main reason for booting these ROMs? It even looks like the camera doesn't work in many of them. (which surprised me considering the phone is droid - stock)..
second question: I can see the rooting guides but not how to flash the HERo to any of these ROMs.. or am I missing something here?
Thanks..
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get the evo or wait for the galaxy s pro

The Hero is still a worthy phone.

thanks for the advice..
an explanation as to why would be nice
and an answer to my other inquiries as well if possible..

i do love my hero but if i had an upgrade right now i wouldnt go to a "last gen" phone
evo is a step up from the hero in every spec and is 4G!!!!!
the samsung galaxy will be very comparable to the evo but seems a little faster on the processing side
most of these roms are 2.1 which is complete exept for a couple bugs here and there. The roms that are dev'ing are the 2.2 roms which needs to be made from the ground up.

Sputnikk23 said:
I have my HTC Vogue Touch flashed to android... Just foud out I have a free upgrade from Sprint and thinking about the HTC Hero..
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sweet good for you!
doing some research before I get it as I love customizing this stuff and there looks to be plenty of ROMs here...
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we do have a ton of roms...
my first question being: aside from apps2sd what is the main reason for booting these ROMs? It even looks like the camera doesn't work in many of them. (which surprised me considering the phone is droid - stock)..
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the custom roms are faster/better than the sprint rom.
the camera works in all the roms as far as i know? there was a time when the camera didn't work because HTC were being Dbags and withholding the kernel source, but toast solved that problem. the only rom atm without camera AFAIK is the froyo dev build.
second question: I can see the rooting guides but not how to flash the HERo to any of these ROMs.. or am I missing something here?
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once you root if you use the guides then they will show you how to flash a updated/custom recovery. then flashing roms is easy. boot into recovery and choose
Code:
flash update.zip
BOOM isn't that easy.
Thanks..
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welcome.

Sputnikk23 said:
I have my HTC Vogue Touch flashed to android... Just foud out I have a free upgrade from Sprint and thinking about the HTC Hero..
doing some research before I get it as I love customizing this stuff and there looks to be plenty of ROMs here...
my first question being: aside from apps2sd what is the main reason for booting these ROMs? It even looks like the camera doesn't work in many of them. (which surprised me considering the phone is droid - stock)..
second question: I can see the rooting guides but not how to flash the HERo to any of these ROMs.. or am I missing something here?
Thanks..
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question 1. besides apps2sd the main reason for booting roms is looks and customization in my oppinion. you can change around the keyboard the lock screen the menu options even remove the terrible bloatware included on the phone. plus an upside is speed - remove the files eating all your battery life and take that battery life and put it to overclocking the cpu.
as for the camera i don't know what you are talking about. almost every rom i've installed has the camera working correctly. sometimes a file is removed to make the phone run faster and the camera doesn't work but most of the times the camera is fixed pretty fast.
question 2. rooting your phone gives you access to files on your phone otherwise not able to delete. i.e. bloatware. by rooting your phone you can remove these files or adjust them how you want. now the ROM is a customization of android x.x that you flash to your hero that otherpeople have customized themselves. like removing the bloatware for you or using a custom kernel to make your phone run faster. or just changing around the entire look of android.
The Hero is a fantastic phone and can do many things. i would say upgrade and don't look back. but if you want a snapdragon CPU get the Evo. which is also an awesome phone. (but quite a bit more expensive)

lv2bll said:
get the evo or wait for the galaxy s pro
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totally ignore the last part. Samsung is terrible also am I crazy or doesn't need to be in a different section?

I see someone else posted about the camera..
Every single current rom we have, has a working camera. Aside from froyo 2.2, that hasnt been publicly released yet (it will soon though).
And rom currently up-to-date within the past month, should have everything working. You might run in to a few bugs, but most are user errors or can be simply fixed.
The hero is still a great phone with many months left in it. The Evo though is still the #1 choice, and i would get one if i could.
And person above me.. No you are not crazy. Should be in general section or Q & A

lv2bll said:
get the evo or wait for the galaxy s pro
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vetvito said:
The Hero is still a worthy phone.
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both of these statements are completely true.
the Hero is actually quite awesome, lots of potential in it still, and my guess is the 2.2 will run on it just swimmingly.
that being said... if you can get one cheap, do it! But frankly, if you have upgrade credit coming to you, use it on a newer gen phone... or I would anyway. sadly, there will be less ROMs/mods/community/whathaveyou for it, balanced by a sense of adventure exploring new territory with other ROMflash addicts and ROMcookers!

thatguythatdid said:
totally ignore the last part. Samsung is terrible also am I crazy or doesn't need to be in a different section?
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ya know what? your right!

Hero's a great phone.
Unbeatable combination of style, size, power, and functionality.
EVO's only better if you have no aesthetic considerations to ahm... consider.

thedudejdog said:
sweet good for you!
once you root if you use the guides then they will show you how to flash a updated/custom recovery. then flashing roms is easy. boot into recovery and choose
Code:
flash update.zip
BOOM isn't that easy.
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still a bit confused. probably will make more sense once I get the phone.
for instance i'm looking at this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583291
point me to another one if there is something better...
I assume I put the ROMs on the SD card (andboot folder maybe? thats what it was on my vogue) and going into recovery console to select the "flash update.zip" will wipe the phone and install the custom ROM?
also, where can I gain clarification on these new acronyms to me such as JIT?
I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually.. Afterall, I am a certified MS Server Admin and CCNA network admin.. hhaha
thanks for your help. great community here. hopefully i'll be sticking around.

Sputnikk23 said:
still a bit confused. probably will make more sense once I get the phone.
for instance i'm looking at this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583291
point me to another one if there is something better...
I assume I put the ROMs on the SD card (andboot folder maybe? thats what it was on my vogue) and going into recovery console to select the "flash update.zip" will wipe the phone and install the custom ROM?
also, where can I gain clarification on these new acronyms to me such as JIT?
I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually.. Afterall, I am a certified MS Server Admin and CCNA network admin.. hhaha
thanks for your help. great community here. hopefully i'll be sticking around.
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that guide is old.
THIS ONE
will work for 2.1 which is what the hero has now.
you can google JIT. google google google. all the questions have been answered at some point or another, its better to read someone's post than make a new post about the same thing thousands of other people have already asked about.

Ok found it. At first all I got were links to roms with JIT on it.
So after rooting, I basically get back into the recovery console and select flash from zip sdcard? Heck of alot easier than the Vogue I tell you that...
Thanks for the link
Another edit: Do the custom roms have multiple home page screens you can scroll to? On my vogue 1.6 droid I have like 5 home screens I can put shortcuts on. I just watched a HTC hero video on sprint and on the customizing video it didn't look like that was there.

I'm not saying the Hero isn't a good phone.. I'm saying if you have an upgrade, get the Evo or you'll be upset later. The phone is so much faster... 4g.. double cameras..big screen...
Bad better life, and it's a brick. I wouldn't use an upgrade on an old gen phone.
I just become a Sprint Preferred or whatever.. by having a plan over $70 and paying on time for 6 months.. I get my free upgrade in February. I definitely won't even consider the Evo.. I'll be looking at the next big thing.

Sputnikk23 said:
Ok found it. At first all I got were links to roms with JIT on it.
So after rooting, I basically get back into the recovery console and select flash from zip sdcard? Heck of alot easier than the Vogue I tell you that...
Thanks for the link
Another edit: Do the custom roms have multiple home page screens you can scroll to? On my vogue 1.6 droid I have like 5 home screens I can put shortcuts on. I just watched a HTC hero video on sprint and on the customizing video it didn't look like that was there.
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there are 7 screens you can put apps and widgets on. 1 home then 3 to the left and right.

Remember the movie Mad Max? Or was it the Road Warrior? It doesn't matter. The quote is still valid.
Speed is a question of money. How fast can you afford to go?
If you can afford it, get the Evo. If you want a cheaper, yet still awe phone, get the Hero. Then use your savings for a bigger SDHC card and Bluetooth headphones and other coolness.

I agree that the phone has a lot left in it, but a lot of devs from several phones have jumped shipped to the Evo. I'm sticking with my Hero for another year atleast, unless a real good deal comes up.
If you want to save money I would get ther Hero as it it a lot cheaper than the Evo and you will also save the $10 extra a month. That and the Evo is too damn big. To me it was uncomfortable to hold and use with one hand.
Not only can you flash /install new roms, but with a little research you can mod the rom your self and theme it how you want. Also wireless tether is awesome and the Overclocking and Undervolting is making the phone better and faster.

Ok so I spent a few days trolling.
Looks like I'm going to have to flash the old RUU since I did the 2.1 update, then follow guide, then the custom ROM.
Question though, I'm stuck on picking one: Some are very nicely featured but I don't like the default look on any of them or the themes available in a 2nd/3rd post of the ROMs thread; generically speaking, is any themes compatible with any ROM? For instance, the Cyanogen mods you can Google to dark corners of the internet...