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web2go vs. unlimited data plan

Greetings all,
I keep hearing this web2go and internet2.voicestream.com plan, and I remembered having this awhile back before I switched to the new plan. Can anyone explain the difference between this and the 24$ unlimited data plan that T-Mo offers? is this limited internet? can you surf the net like you can with the unlimited data plan?
Is it true that you are limited to edge and 2g when you have tzone or web2go? I hear different stories from different people, so I wonder if any of you know the facts about this? I've searched for a bit, got a headache and decided to post the question here instead to save me some time. LOL
Thanks in advance for your replies!

They all route to the same servers.
They are brokedown by phone at the sales level.
On the tech level, they are all the same. Except the sidekick data, that one uses a different server altogether.
I can tell you for a fact you can have access to full 3g if you are grandfathered from the T-Zones Era. They ripped the wapping of data streams on their side a long time ago.

So if they are pretty much the same. Can we ( Nexus one users )use this then? Its a big difference in price. I had tzones but upgraded to the new plan, so does that mean I'm screwed?
muncheese said:
They all route to the same servers.
They are brokedown by phone at the sales level.
On the tech level, they are all the same. Except the sidekick data, that one uses a different server altogether.
I can tell you for a fact you can have access to full 3g if you are grandfathered from the T-Zones Era. They ripped the wapping of data streams on their side a long time ago.
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More or less.
Your t-zones were grandfathered in. Once you upgraded they won't offer it again.
You could call and try weasel them into changing it back though. A couple of people have claimed to have managed it.

Thanks a lot bro. Ill see what I can do.
muncheese said:
More or less.
Your t-zones were grandfathered in. Once you upgraded they won't offer it again.
You could call and try weasel them into changing it back though. A couple of people have claimed to have managed it.
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throttling by tmo?

anyone feel like theyre being throttled by tmo? im in the socal region and i dont even have 500mB used for unlimited data. i think i read somewhere they will hold your speed back if youve used over a gig or two, but 500megs?
btw, i usually get >2mb/s, but recently have been getting .5mb/s..

No throttling in Dallas. I tethered my laptop to download a ~700 Mb file this past weekend (I don't usually do that, but I needed to). Still pulling anywhere from 2-4 Mb/s

Possibly network upgrades happening.
(Give them a call and find out)

Bandwidth can be throttled by the number of users, more users less bandwidth to go around.

I Just talked to a csr at tmo and if you have unlimited data with the nexus you will not be throttled OR capped.
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hopefully there are network updates/upgrades being done. this has been the case since friday.

yeah, it's not throttling. they would push you below 500 kb/s if that were the case.
in my city, 500 kb/s is the most we get on T-Mo's 3G.. oh well.

I use around 5 gbs a month, no throttling here

Wouldn't they just shut off your 3g and force you to use edge speeds?

coldchillen said:
hopefully there are network updates/upgrades being done. this has been the case since friday.
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Same issue here - Chicago area. Dropped calls, no service, Emergency calls only and lousy 3G coverage. On G1 and N1. Hoping it's an upgrade....

I seriously doubt t-mobile is throttle speeds. On ATT in la I pull down 2.5 mbps though.

btw are you guys on the android plan?

i doubt it... tmobile has half of the subscribers that ATT does and has just as good of a network... they have no reason to throttle people...

JHaste said:
i doubt it... tmobile has half of the subscribers that ATT does and has just as good of a network... they have no reason to throttle people...
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i would say they are better, they know they have android power users and treat us as such, not like childish data wasters like AT&T has done. They also have been recently updating their network that surpasses AT&T soon enough.

^agreed, their network upgrades makes my n1 worthwhile, also I've been with them for about 6.5 years because they're the cheapest and they've got pretty good customer service

New Pre-Paid Player in the Game (US) - Aio Wireless

It looks like AIO wireless just opened up for all of the US. Until a few days ago they were only available in a hanful of states but I just checked today and it looks like they are now nation wide. Uses AT&T network. Unlimited text and talk. Prices include taxes and fee's.
$55 - 2GB high speed (LTE capped @ 8mbs and HSPA+ capped at 4mbs) then throttled to slower speeds when monthly limit is reached.
$70 - 7GB high speed (LTE capped @ 8mbs and HSPA+ capped at 4mbs) then throttled to slower speeds
I just got my N4 last week and signed up with Straight Talk (AT&T sim) for a month but knew I would be switching to AIO when they were available. I have read to many horror stories about Straight Talks sneaky ways with what they call unlimited data. I would rather go with a company that tells you exactly what you are really getting up front rather then lying about it or possibly disconnecting your service.
I tried T-Mo but the service was terrible...Now just need to wait to the end of the month to make the move...Post your thoughts here if you sign up. Also will give the 3rd month free on new activations!
This seems like a really good option for people with unlocked phones and require a nice amount of data.
http://www.aiowireless.com/home.html

Finally! I've been waiting for them to go nationwide. I use GoPhone right now and it's great, but I'm always looking for newer, better deals. I might try AIO for the 7gb plan for a month or two. If I don't end up using nearly that, I'll either switch to the $55 plan, or back to GoPhone, depending on AIO's speeds/service. One thing to note: they throttle your speeds even before your cap. I can't remember exactly, it's in the terms and conditions. Something like 6 mb/s or so. After your data cap, I think it's throttled to 2G speeds.

Johmama said:
Finally! I've been waiting for them to go nationwide. I use GoPhone right now and it's great, but I'm always looking for newer, better deals. I might try AIO for the 7gb plan for a month or two. If I don't end up using nearly that, I'll either switch to the $55 plan, or back to GoPhone, depending on AIO's speeds/service. One thing to note: they throttle your speeds even before your cap. I can't remember exactly, it's in the terms and conditions. Something like 6 mb/s or so. After your data cap, I think it's throttled to 2G speeds.
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Now that you mention it I think I did read something about the speeds they offer and it might be around 6-7mbs. That is more then enough speed to do anything you really need to do anyway.

I believe they throttle LTE down to 8mb/s. It is a shame they throttle before you hit your cap. Otherwise the 5 dollar difference in price over GoPhone is not worth it to me.

bozzykid said:
I believe they throttle LTE down to 8mb/s. It is a shame they throttle before you hit your cap. Otherwise the 5 dollar difference in price over GoPhone is not worth it to me.
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Yes, it is 8mbs capped which is pretty fast. What can you not do at those speeds anyway? You can stream Netflix or Youtube. I think Netflix for my TV says it only requires 5mbs for streaming.
I guess for the smaller plan it might be a wash although it is still more then $5 for GoPhone after taxes and fee's but if you want 7gigs of data, $70 for Aio vs. Go Phones $70 for 3gigs it seems like a no brainer.

From their page on data speeds:
4G LTE service currently offers download speeds up to 8 Mbps and our 4G HSPA+ service currently offers download speeds up to a maximum of 4 Mbps. On our 3G HSPA/UMTS service, typical download speeds range from approximately 700 Kbps up to 1.7 Mbps.
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What are the speeds on GoPhone?

Dynotrick said:
From their page on data speeds:
What are the speeds on GoPhone?
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On Straight talk I just speed tested at 5.3mbs on an AT&T sim. I have gotten faster then that though.
Hmmm, capping HSPA+ at 4mbs. I will still try it next month to see how it is although I am sure we will have more feedback by then.

Dynotrick said:
From their page on data speeds:
What are the speeds on GoPhone?
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GoPhone doesn't throttle when you are under your data cap. LTE can get 20-30mb/s easily.

bozzykid said:
GoPhone doesn't throttle when you are under your data cap. LTE can get 20-30mb/s easily.
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Not with the N4, you can't

[email protected] said:
Not with the N4, you can't
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Sure you can. You need to be in an area that uses band 4. Granted their aren't many.

bozzykid said:
Sure you can. You need to be in an area that uses band 4. Granted their aren't many.
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But you cannot get an LTE connection on the N4 through AT&T.....So even if they did not throttle an LTE connection it would not do any good for an N4 user anyway.

[email protected] said:
But you cannot get an LTE connection on the N4 through AT&T
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Sure you can. What do you mean?

bozzykid said:
Sure you can. What do you mean?
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There is no LTE for AT&T with the N4. You can use an older radio on T-Mobile to get LTE but it will not work for AT&T. You can only get HSPA+.

[email protected] said:
There is no LTE for AT&T with the N4. You can use an older radio on T-Mobile to get LTE but it will not work for AT&T. You can only get HSPA+.
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Not true. Like I said earlier, you can get LTE on AT&T in the few areas that use band 4 which the N4 supports.

[email protected] said:
Also will give the 3rd month free on new activations!
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I had seen the third month free advertised on their website before they went nationwide, but I don't see it there anymore. Does anyone know if it's still being offered? If so, it's a no-brainer to at least try it out.
Another big question will be whether discounted refill cards start showing up online, the way they do for other prepaid options. You can easily get a $60 GoPhone plan for $57 at Callingmart.com. Right now someone's offering a $60 refill for $51 on eBay, but that always seems a little shadier to me. If those kind of deals don't pop up for Aio, it's a little less compelling.

dan in la said:
I had seen the third month free advertised on their website before they went nationwide, but I don't see it there anymore. Does anyone know if it's still being offered? If so, it's a no-brainer to at least try it out.
Another big question will be whether discounted refill cards start showing up online, the way they do for other prepaid options. You can easily get a $60 GoPhone plan for $57 at Callingmart.com. Right now someone's offering a $60 refill for $51 on eBay, but that always seems a little shadier to me. If those kind of deals don't pop up for Aio, it's a little less compelling.
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Yup, it's on the page...Scroll through on the first page to the right in the center of the screen.

[email protected] said:
Yup, it's on the page...Scroll through on the first page to the right in the center of the screen.
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I saw it earlier today but it is gone for me as well.

[email protected] said:
Yup, it's on the page...Scroll through on the first page to the right in the center of the screen.
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Yes, you're right. It's still there, I just didn't read the rotating ads at the top of the page quickly enough. Here's a direct link to the offer: http://www.aiowireless.com/3rd-month-free-promo.html
You have to activate by September 29. According to the terms, you just have to sign up and keep your account active for two months, and five days before your second month expires, they'll automatically credit you with a third month free. It makes me a little nervous that you just have to trust that they'll credit your account, but what are you going to do.
Unfortunately, I just renewed with Net10 yesterday, but I'll probably port over to Aio just before the September 29 deadline. Still worth it for a free month even if I lose a week with Net10.

dan in la said:
Yes, you're right. It's still there, I just didn't read the rotating ads at the top of the page quickly enough. Here's a direct link to the offer: http://www.aiowireless.com/3rd-month-free-promo.html
You have to activate by September 29. According to the terms, you just have to sign up and keep your account active for two months, and five days before your second month expires, they'll automatically credit you with a third month free. It makes me a little nervous that you just have to trust that they'll credit your account, but what are you going to do.
Unfortunately, I just renewed with Net10 yesterday, but I'll probably port over to Aio just before the September 29 deadline. Still worth it for a free month even if I lose a week with Net10.
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Nice find. I ordered the Sim and $55 plan last night so when it gets here I can hopefully activate it and get that month free.
Thanks.
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What is their policy for roaming? On T-mobile prepaid, you don't get any coverage in roaming if T-mobile itself doesn't have coverage. In post-paid, it can use other operator's network while roaming.

Sign my Petition to improve throttling

Please Everyone Sign my Petition to improve Throttling with AT&T MVNO and T-Mobile itself!
https://www.change.org/petitions/t-mobile-and-at-t-improve-throttling-after-passing-data-allotment
WE ONLY NEED 100!
Lets get what we want back :good:

how do you improve throttling? youre either data speed throttled or not..

simms22 said:
how do you improve throttling? youre either data speed throttled or not..
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lighten the throttle just a bit 0.07Mbps is way to slow and almost unusable. Perhaps 256Kbps or 0.25Mbps is better suited.

signed, but should have put some conditions such as without raising any prices and without lowering the limited caps.
Let says carriers listened, they'll advertise "this is what consumers wanted, but here are new prices!"
we'll see how it goes though, nice approach.

sharpehenry said:
signed, but should have put some conditions such as without raising any prices and without lowering the limited caps.
Let says carriers listened, they'll advertise "this is what consumers wanted, but here are new prices!"
we'll see how it goes though, nice approach.
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T-Mobile and AT&T literaly almost spends nothing on these Bandwidth charges with these amount of customers they have especially AT&T
I have no experience with the wireless industry but at my home i pay TWENTY Dollars a month for 10Mbps Download internet that's UNLIMITED
I can torrent like 300GB of P0rn and they dont give a dam
Whats preventing me from starting my own wireless company and using local isp's in the area for backhaul
If i look into my local ISP's pricing they have 50Mbps of Unlimited internet for 79.95. well damn i can just get like 2 modems from them combined them in a switch some how and boom id have 100Mbps line
my point is data is cheap carriers are taking advantage of this and saying bandwidth costs alot.

markdapimp said:
lighten the throttle just a bit 0.07Mbps is way to slow and almost unusable. Perhaps 256Kbps or 0.25Mbps is better suited.
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oh, ok. thats understandable.
before i got the completely unlimited high speed data plan from tmobile, when i got throttled often, id change my data connection to edge(2g). when on edge, id get speeds of about 200kbps. on 3g/4g it averaged about 56kbps.

simms22 said:
oh, ok. thats understandable.
before i got the completely unlimited high speed data plan from tmobile, when i got throttled often, id change my data connection to edge(2g). when on edge, id get speeds of about 200kbps. on 3g/4g it averaged about 56kbps.
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Well its the concept were talking about here look @ t-mobile's 500MB plan, and look @ their facebook page most of it is filled with T-Mobile sucks comments or T-Mobile is slow most of the consumer market does not understand data usage Mbps or MB/s what they care is if Facebook loads or if Instagram loads.
Take a look @ the petition page i have revised it.

simms22 said:
oh, ok. thats understandable.
before i got the completely unlimited high speed data plan from tmobile, when i got throttled often, id change my data connection to edge(2g). when on edge, id get speeds of about 200kbps. on 3g/4g it averaged about 56kbps.
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Also EDGE and HSPA and LTE is almost the same its a hard throttle of 0.10Mbps

Why do companies do what they do? For profit. They want throttling to really hurt to entice the user to upgrade their data package. Simple as that.

markdapimp said:
T-Mobile and AT&T literaly almost spends nothing on these Bandwidth charges with these amount of customers they have especially AT&T
I have no experience with the wireless industry
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at least you admit you know nothing about the wireless industry. but it doesn't work the same way as wired internet. sorry bro

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Enddo said:
at least you admit you know nothing about the wireless industry. but it doesn't work the same way as wired internet. sorry bro
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Clearwire is a home ISP and they provide unlimited data and data that is throttled but not to 2G speed its more like 3G speed

markdapimp said:
Please Everyone Sign my Petition to improve Throttling with AT&T MVNO and T-Mobile itself!
https://www.change.org/petitions/t-mobile-and-at-t-improve-throttling-after-passing-data-allotment
WE ONLY NEED 100!
Lets get what we want back :good:
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As this post has NOTHING to do with a specific device I have moved to the off-topic section.

Unlimited Data offered by AT&T

Well it looks line AT&T is offering the unlimited data plan again. If you have direct TV then you qualify for it. You can switch to direct TV and qualify for it. Reports say that you will be throttled after 22gb during congestion hours. Has anyone else seen this.

Yes. http://www.cnet.com/news/at-ts-new-unlimited-data-plan-everything-you-need-to-know-faq/

Not only have I seen it, I actually have it. Works fantastic, I mean my family never goes over 22GB but, If you do they don't slow it down as much as people think. It just goes from 4G LTE to Standard 4G. It was only 20 more bucks to my bill with 2 Lines. All I did was go to the myAT&T app changed plan to unlimited. Done, It won't even be added until the next bill. Hope that helps.

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Not only have I seen it, I actually have it. Works fantastic, I mean my family never goes over 22GB but, If you do they don't slow it down as much as people think. It just goes from 4G LTE to Standard 4G. It was only 20 more bucks to my bill with 2 Lines. All I did was go to the myAT&T app changed plan to unlimited. Done, It won't even be added until the next bill. Hope that helps.
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Dies it offer tether with the plan?

dirtydodge said:
Dies it offer tether with the plan?
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No tethering at all. Not happy about it