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restart after loss in service?

I just took a trip for the weekend and much of the area i travelled thru didnt have cell service. However I found that when my phone was in a cell service area it wasnt making calls. here is the scenario...
driving down the highway, my cell isnt finding a signal, it sets itself to the airplane setting & thus calls cant be made, my wife's curve has a signal & she's on the phone, so i turn the phone back on & try to make a call...it ends my calls before it rings. i try to wait to see if its a timing issue, 10 minutes lapses, wife still on phone, i try to make a call, no go.
i had to cut my phone off & cut it back on to get the phone to work?? it recognized a signal as i had 1 bar of signal reception on the tilt and my wife's curve had 2 bars. but it'd never start a call. i'd see that it said calling, 3-5 secs later it said call ended...
anyone have any idea as to why this would happen or why i'd be required to restart everytime i leave a cell service area & reenter one? any fixes? i searched for my title & found no results...

Are you on 3G or GSM when it fails? If it's on 3G, you could have that problem, try to switch to GSM only and see if it's better.

kilrah said:
Are you on 3G or GSM when it fails? If it's on 3G, you could have that problem, try to switch to GSM only and see if it's better.
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well as far as i know we're not getting 3g until may...but i do drive towards a 3g network, so it may have been switching over to 3g prior to driving into the back country?

kilrah said:
Are you on 3G or GSM when it fails? If it's on 3G, you could have that problem, try to switch to GSM only and see if it's better.
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i checked & the phone is actually set to gsm only already...so this cant be the issue. any other thoughts?

Wish I had an answer, but my phone does the same thing. I must reset the phone to get a signal

onemilehigh said:
Wish I had an answer, but my phone does the same thing. I must reset the phone to get a signal
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what rom are you on? the 162 htc/att rom? bcuz i know now i am having a problem i wasnt before. because there is a building downtown that doesnt get cell service in it, and i frequent that building. i never had the issue on my original tilt on the 158 (i believe) rom, but this rma came w/ 162 rom & now im having the issue in that bldg too. which goes to further prove its not the 3g network theory. its just a matter of losing signal & then getting signal back where i am experiencing the issue.
thanks for any help.

onemilehigh said:
Wish I had an answer, but my phone does the same thing. I must reset the phone to get a signal
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I had/have(?) the same problem. Called ATT and got a replacement. Hopefully this fixes it.

sharpja said:
I had/have(?) the same problem. Called ATT and got a replacement. Hopefully this fixes it.
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please post the results...bcuz i hope i dont have to rma yet again!!!

stanGib said:
please post the results...bcuz i hope i dont have to rma yet again!!!
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Today was day one with the new tilt and it didn't have the problem. However, my old one wasn't consistent one way or the other, either, so I'll have to give the new one some time.

(work for at&t) New phone will not fix this problem, nothin wrong w/ phone. U need to go to a local corp store and change the SIM and get someone who knows what they r doing so they put all of the SIM updates while plugged into the comp. OTA updates will never work w/o these initial updates.

I have an issue where i'm connected to the net (GPRS/hdspa) and occasionally i will lose the connection whislt the connection is still active..
No internet functions will work even when i reconnect
I have to then restart the phone to be able to use the internet again
Not the same issue but something similar

Same problem here. It is not possible to establish a 3G connection. If I set the BAND in the telephone Settings to GSM the connection is stable. If try to establish a 3g connection all further connection trys will fail.
I already changed my Kaiser, it did not help.
Update:
T-mobile will sent me a new sim card. Hope this will help...

my Kaiser do not work with 3G only works on GSM

Suddenly it had happened; NO 3G nor GPRS data transmission. I can see the 3G sign , but when I make calls the phone disconnects; when somebody call me, he received a message that my phone is off line. Only when 3G signal is on. But when normal GSM is on, everything will be OK. My phone can not get data from the internet, even though it shows that is is connected. I tried all of the above solutions to fix this problem but no helpand sometimes it shows 3g sign but as soon as i try to call some1 all the signals are gone.. I tried to hard reset and try it before installing any software, no help. I tried mostly all available ROMs and Radio ROMs; even the original, but not fixed. I do not what to do. Now, I am using the phone with GSM only, NO 3G. Please help!!!

nunu said:
Suddenly it had happened; NO 3G nor GPRS data transmission. I can see the 3G sign , but when I make calls the phone disconnects; when somebody call me, he received a message that my phone is off line. Only when 3G signal is on. But when normal GSM is on, everything will be OK. My phone can not get data from the internet, even though it shows that is is connected. I tried all of the above solutions to fix this problem but no helpand sometimes it shows 3g sign but as soon as i try to call some1 all the signals are gone.. I tried to hard reset and try it before installing any software, no help. I tried mostly all available ROMs and Radio ROMs; even the original, but not fixed. I do not what to do. Now, I am using the phone with GSM only, NO 3G. Please help!!!
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Might kinda help to tell folks where you live. Country? State/province?

UK,London
thnx for your reply i live in London,United Kingdom

Signal lost, this might help...
nunu said:
Suddenly it had happened; NO 3G nor GPRS data transmission. I can see the 3G sign , but when I make calls the phone disconnects; when somebody call me, he received a message that my phone is off line. Only when 3G signal is on. But when normal GSM is on, everything will be OK. My phone can not get data from the internet, even though it shows that is is connected. I tried all of the above solutions to fix this problem but no helpand sometimes it shows 3g sign but as soon as i try to call some1 all the signals are gone.. I tried to hard reset and try it before installing any software, no help. I tried mostly all available ROMs and Radio ROMs; even the original, but not fixed. I do not what to do. Now, I am using the phone with GSM only, NO 3G. Please help!!!
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Hi there nunu,
I had the same problem, went back to the store and nope not a known problem.... So I started to troubleshoot this
1. normal G connection
2. 3G appears or even H
3. signal lost and after 30 sec. the cycle starts again.
what worked for me was the changing the of the radio version. I am currently in the Netherlands and here the NEON_Radinly_1.65.24.36 works fine, I confirmed it by loading a rom with a different radio in it and the result was again the same.
hope this helped in any way...
Let me (us) know.
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life is good, but life get's much better with a Kaiser

are you trying to connect with [email protected] / cingular1 ?
this is the kinda information you should have put in your first post
I use the above and have zero problems in Philadelphia

My 3G went out for like a day here (Phone only worked on Edge), then it started working again. Cellular carriers do have outages from time to time. Has it been a long while since it stopped working?

nunu said:
Suddenly it had happened; NO 3G nor GPRS data transmission. I can see the 3G sign , but when I make calls the phone disconnects; when somebody call me, he received a message that my phone is off line. Only when 3G signal is on. But when normal GSM is on, everything will be OK. My phone can not get data from the internet, even though it shows that is is connected. I tried all of the above solutions to fix this problem but no helpand sometimes it shows 3g sign but as soon as i try to call some1 all the signals are gone.. I tried to hard reset and try it before installing any software, no help. I tried mostly all available ROMs and Radio ROMs; even the original, but not fixed. I do not what to do. Now, I am using the phone with GSM only, NO 3G. Please help!!!
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Flash to a different compatible radio. If you do not get 3G/H service back, then you have a hardware issue with your radio, and will need to have the phone serviced.

what newtwork are you on?
have you tried your sim in a different handset?
what happens when running in gsm only mode?
in settings phone network change selection to manual and tap find networks and reselect network (this is known as a manual roam) does this make a difference?

Same here!, im in montreal, canada with Rogers, and in 3g doesnt work, it detects the 3G network, but as soon as i try to make a call or go on the internet it looses the signal and i have to go on GSM mode.
and i'm using LKDV12 but i still had the same problem on AT&T Original rom, and Dual V2.
Anyone?

Major problem --
I have been travelling round the world for a year and have the same problem, Have tried many radios, if I use 3G( wscdma) or auto band then the signal drops everytime i try to make a call, and no data is possible however if I use gsm only data and voice work fine, thease symptoms are on many networks, Chile, Easter Island,Tahiti, NZ, Fiji, Optus ( OZ ), and m1 ( singapore ),
Radios tried
EMO 1.71.09.01
Neon 1.65.24.36
1.65.21.18 ( att )
I even loaded the generic dopod rom + radio and it didnt seem to help.
Is it possible something low level has changed whilst doing all this flashing ?
Or could the Hard SPL affect something.
I always try to buy a 3G USIM in each country and test the sim in a backup G800 to ensure the carrier has enabled 3g data okay.
Phone is Kaiser ( HTC TytnII )
ROM is varied but and usually lorentis series roms -- L26 12 light atm
Symptoms, 3G icon shows but data wont connect, if you try to call radio strength bar drops to zero and cell communications are lost , sometimes reestablishes comms but often needs soft reset to band switch to work.
If 3G icon not showing all calls and GPRS data works Okay.
Personally I would not expect this to be a hardware failiure as many others are experiencing teh same fault and for working hardware to fail in use is more erratic in the failiure mode, but a low level register, or some other type of protocol corruption could easiliy be the cause......
The proven "high GPS current consumption in standby" issue is also present as it seems to be on all Kaisers but afaik the root cause of this was never resolved either .....

my Kaiser do not work with 3G only works on GSM NEED HELP
HI I´m from mexico telcel gsm band and the same problm works on my kaiser tried changing the rom put the htc rom again the radio too
settingsROM 1.62.502.0 WINDOWS MOBILE 6 BUILD 1828.0.4.4
RADIO 1.27.14.09
PROTOCOL 22.45.88.07H
by the way how can i make it work on gsm only or edge or other than 3g that doesn't work
tks for your assistance iñm getting frustrated
edge

nunu said:
Suddenly it had happened; NO 3G nor GPRS data transmission. I can see the 3G sign , but when I make calls the phone disconnects; when somebody call me, he received a message that my phone is off line. Only when 3G signal is on. But when normal GSM is on, everything will be OK. My phone can not get data from the internet, even though it shows that is is connected. I tried all of the above solutions to fix this problem but no helpand sometimes it shows 3g sign but as soon as i try to call some1 all the signals are gone.. I tried to hard reset and try it before installing any software, no help. I tried mostly all available ROMs and Radio ROMs; even the original, but not fixed. I do not what to do. Now, I am using the phone with GSM only, NO 3G. Please help!!!
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i have the same problem did you make it work how you set a gsm band instead of the 3g on the phone tks for your assis
dr.vogel

I have the same problem. Already had it with WM6.0 original HTC ROM (Finnish ROM, but language set to English). Then sent it to service. It came back, they said they "reapplied software or smth" and it worked after that. Then after 6.1 update again, the same problem (even with the latest updated Radio ROM).
When I set band selection to auto, it picks up 3G or even H but tends to loose it and definetly looses connection to network if I try to make a call. Can't take any incoming calls either.
It works ok when I force it to use GSM (EDGE for data) on Band selection tab, in phone properties.
I probably won't bother taking it to service anymore cause there is no local service here in Estonia, they ship it to Finland and it will take a minimum of 3 weeks...
... so I'm waiting for Xperia X1 and hope it's not as much HTC.

nunu said:
Suddenly it had happened; NO 3G nor GPRS data transmission. I can see the 3G sign , but when I make calls the phone disconnects; when somebody call me, he received a message that my phone is off line. Only when 3G signal is on. But when normal GSM is on, everything will be OK. My phone can not get data from the internet, even though it shows that is is connected. I tried all of the above solutions to fix this problem but no helpand sometimes it shows 3g sign but as soon as i try to call some1 all the signals are gone.. I tried to hard reset and try it before installing any software, no help. I tried mostly all available ROMs and Radio ROMs; even the original, but not fixed. I do not what to do. Now, I am using the phone with GSM only, NO 3G. Please help!!!
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Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335074
Hardware problem, repair needed and unavoidable to get 3G functionality back.

I have the same problem.
I bought an O2 Stellar (Kaiser) from a work colleague and it worked fine on 3G/Auto on the day I bought it.
The next morning, when I switched on the phone, it had exactly the symptoms described (i.e. it would only work if forced into GSM mode).
My colleague took it back to O2 under warranty.
1 week later, it was returned as 'fixed', but it actually still had the problem, so my colleague returned it again to O2.
Another week later, O2 provided a replacement unit under warranty.
The replacement worked fine, until the next morning when I turned on the phone and had to force it into GSM mode again because it wouldn't work in 3G/Auto mode.
I'm on 3 in the UK and I suspect the problem is something to do with the roaming onto Orange GSM which happens when there is no 3G signal from 3UK. However, on the day each of the units worked, it was switching between 3G and GSM repeatedly because the 3G signal is fairly poor in my office.
I'm now waiting for my colleague to return from his holiday so that he can return this unit to O2 and we'll see if we get another replacement. If we do, I'm very reluctant to actually use it - I think I'll probably just sell it on and get something different. Shame because I really like the Kaiser.

as mentioned before, another thing that you should've tried is to call the helpline and see if there's an outage in your area. I've been experiencing the same problem in a very particular area (3G hand-off to EDGE problem only happens on campus). Tried different radios and problem still exist, so I gave them a call today and turned out that there is an outage here.

In my case, it's not caused by a network outage - 3G works fine on my Hermes in the same locations.
Good thought though.

Relax boys...I have'd the same problem... The only solution is to go with your phone for warranty return. There they will change your TyTN II mother board and all will be ok. IT IS THE ONLY WAY.
PS do the same thing I did http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418375

i post this thead and the solution
i post this tread an the solution came on tha answer of various of you great ideas i get the solution changing the rom and the wm to 6.1 and the rom is the dutty's it has worked almost perfectly in any wy itested only some install on the gps progrms but no mayor problem tks all you friens for a great support

The same thing has happened to me as well (Orange UK).
Initially I thought that it was an outage in my area as my friends had problems connecting to 3G as well, but their problem has been fixed but I still cannot.
I'll be contacting their tech support dept. later today and I'll post back.

3g Issue - UNUSUAL

Basically, my N1 when on stock worked perfectly with 3g, yes sometimes it was a bit patchy but it worked. I am using my old blackberry sim (UK), with the internet converted from bberry internet to normal.
Everything was going fine until I put my brother's orange sim in my phone (UK) [he also has a stock nexus, although at the time i was on 5.0.0.3 CM] to see if it was just his phone which had a 3g issue. I never managed to pick up 3g while his sim was in my phone, even though 2 blackberry bolds sitting next to it with orange sims in had perfect 3g.
ANYWAY THATS NOT THE ISSUE.
After replacing my sim in my phone, Ive never since had 3g, ever, even on routes I know the signal is immense.
What I want to know is 1) what would swapping sims have done to the phone, 2) what I can do to possibly reverse it so I can enjoy my 3g again
CM .6
Desire CAM + OC/UV
Cheers

I haven't had this same problem but if I were you I would go to your carrier and get a replacement SIM card. The last time I had a weird issue like this I replaced my SIM and all of a sudden I got pure 3G signals everywhere where I hadn't before. If you get the new SIM and it still doesn't work, try wiping and install a completely different ROM (perferably stock) and see what happens.
Hope this helps!

Sellitus said:
I haven't had this same problem but if I were you I would go to your carrier and get a replacement SIM card. The last time I had a weird issue like this I replaced my SIM and all of a sudden I got pure 3G signals everywhere where I hadn't before. If you get the new SIM and it still doesn't work, try wiping and install a completely different ROM (perferably stock) and see what happens.
Hope this helps!
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But before I put my brothers sim in my phone, my sim worked perfectly fine, so I was thinking it was more likely to be phone than my sim?

Anyone have any ideas?

his sim seems to have disabled 3g somehow in your phone, though I've never heard me that before. have you gone into the info menu and seen if your 3g is still enabled? *#*#4636#*#* on your dialpad.

WHOOPs, yeah I had it off [while we were testing etc] and sort of forgot :/ Which setting is it meant to be on, GSM/CDMA auto?

you want it to be on WCDMA Preferred.

I've set it correctly now, and am getting 'H'. I didn't actually realise that it is a type of 3g network, however I am SURE It used to say '3g'. UK O2 if it makes a difference.

well H stands for HSDPA which is what some ROMs show. so have you flashed to a different custom ROM? either way you are getting correct high speed network, so no worries. my nexus only says 3G even when i'm on HSDPA.

RogerPodacter said:
well H stands for HSDPA which is what some ROMs show. so have you flashed to a different custom ROM? either way you are getting correct high speed network, so no worries. my nexus only says 3G even when i'm on HSDPA.
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Yeah, CM 5.0.6, although I did see a real 3g today *strokes phone* goooood boy

[Q] Is it a radio problem or network problem?

I had CM 6.0 installed and everything was working great until a couple days ago. My phone would periodically have no service and I cannot send texts, make calls or have data. The 3G symbol shows upload and then the H symbol shows upload, but then no download bar. This problem got worse as the time went on. I also had the latest nightly installed but no luck.
I decided to wipe everything and revert back to stock. Everything was flashed back to stock, including recovery, the newest radio, etc. But my phone still doesn't work. When I turn on the phone, it just shows no service or no 3G symbol. However, when I put my roommates AT&T sim card in, it works on edge.
I am on T-Mobile, and it is really frustrating. So right now I have to use my old flip phone.
So is it my radio's problem or sim card?

hey same here my brother aswell

are you on the 2.2.1 update? I am having the same exact problem. I'm running stock rom, 2.2.1. This started 2 days ago for me. However when i switch my phone to 2G only under settings > network my phone works. I am using the 5.99 tzone are you? I am curious to see if this issue is only for 5.99 tzone 3G leechers or all users of the nexus one. a guy in seattle i spoke to has the same issue. so does my brother who also has the 5.99 tzone.

yea, im on the new 2.2.1 update too. but i have the unlimited data plan.
so i did some more testing with my friends samsung vibrant with my sim card, everything worked great. got like 2mb down.
i used his sim card in my phone, and same problem. it only shows upload and no download. but i was able to send and receive texts and make calls, but no data.

yea something is wrong for sure man just called my buddy and he has unlimited data and 3g is not working at all

internet2.voicestream.com works fine put it in apn in settings

that worked for me, but still only on 2G.
every time im on 3G, its so sporadic. and not reliable at all

is it possible for the radio hardware to die over time?

[Q] 3g problems nexus one

hello every body
i have this problem with my nexus one when i am connected to 3g service (umts,hsdpa,Etc'). i can't make calls or receive any calls, i can't use the internet (data) or get sms and Etc'. but i have full bars reception. when i check the vi in setting to "use only 2g" the phone work great.
i tried everything downgrade/upgrade roms,radios. i tried to go back to my first backup and even do PASSIMG but nothing help i googled it every where but nothing
please some one can help???
without 3g the smartphone is useless
thanks,
shushkis

What network you on? I would at least see how old the sim card is.
Lots of time if you have an older sim card it just can't handle a newer system.

I am connected through Orange IL
and i tried switching sims even with other networks.
and more the phone worked fine at the beginning it just happened i remember i switch to one of CY roms and it happened

Have you tried a full wipe and reinstall the rom?

yes of course i tried customized roms and stock roms but nothing helped

I would check your apn settings...

apn connected to taking or getting calls?
i thought it's just for internet connection

Its just a guess.
If its a problem on multiple ROMs, its likely to be either hardware or settings. Settings are cheaper and easier to test, and that's the only setting I can think of...?
Of course, doing a full wipe (including system), installing a new ROM, and testing before you restore any apps and settings may be another way to test, but since the apn settings are pre-baked into most ROMs, it wouldn't rule our the apn...?

OK I tried to put apn settings and it didnt help
you say hardware?
but when I check in settings "use only 2g" the transceiver works great .
maybe the nexus have two transceiver one for 2g and one for 3g?
seems un-logical

No there are two radios one for 3g and one for 2g because 2g is for calls and 3g for data but when 3G is unavailable the phone will use the 2g for the data.

The Same Trouble
shushkis,
I have the same trouble, my 3G connection works so bad, but if I use only 2g connection, all works good... I have no idea what happend with my N1. I have a N1 for 3G 850 (AT&T) model.
Thanks for advantage.

So maybe the problem is the hardware? if the N1 have two inidvidul transcivers?

I have also the same problem. I've tried many different roms and radios. I use 900/2100 3G. What's strang is that 3G works perfectly at home, but when moving to another tower I get emergency calls only warning. 2g works fine.

I just started having 3G issues at home. With 3G on the phone reboots like once an hour, but on 2G I've gone days without a reboot. My 3G signal is not the best at home, but I don't know why that would make the phone reboot. I'm on T-Mo USA.

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I just started having 3G issues at home. With 3G on the phone reboots like once an hour, but on 2G I've gone days without a reboot. My 3G signal is not the best at home, but I don't know why that would make the phone reboot. I'm on T-Mo USA.
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Go get a new SIM card...

danger-rat said:
Go get a new SIM card...
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The one I'm using is only a couple months old, and it works well in my Desire HD, and my Moto Defy. It's only the N1, but I guess maybe it could be that. I'll look into more.

If it's only a few months old, then it may nor be the SIM that is the problem. I suggested it because a number of T-Mo users were having similar problems after a recent network upgrade, and a new SIM seems to fix the issue for most...