weather it be wifi or wired tether, it loads websites extremely slow, despite the fact of a good test speed on my phone, any idea of why this is happening?
jad011 said:
weather it be wifi or wired tether, it loads websites extremely slow, despite the fact of a good test speed on my phone, any idea of why this is happening?
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Wifi thether or whichever cant procees your IC's full speed. The G1 is limited by the data chip inside, so internet speeds wil be slower then your desktop/laptop.
Same for me. I've done a lot of testing on this. Any sort of tethering, for me, will not yield xfer speeds in excess of about 700k. That's over USB or BT. My phone itself is capable of around 3000k on Wifi (using the Speedtest apk), but much slower through the browser. Max speed tethering over Wifi won't be known till T-Mo starts rolling out HSDPA. But based on the 3000k link over the phone's Wifi, I'm hopeful that a HSDPA-to-Wifi speeds could be in excess of 700k.
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I was wondering if everyone experienced the same thing as I am regarding data speeds.
I use the wap.cingular access point and when I use Internet Connection sharing to tether my phone I generally get speeds ranging from 150-750kbps down and 100-350kbps up.
Tonight for instance I am at a location with EDGE network access (full bars) and am getting about 150 down 100 up when tethered.
These speeds were measured with speakeasy.net speedtest.
However, when I am just using my Tilt by itself (untethered) with PIE, or Google Maps, or another application my speeds seem much much slower.
For instance, when using tethering it took about 10 seconds to load the mail xda-developers.com forum page from scratch. On my device it can take well over a minute (or two) to download the page and become responsive enough for me to scroll it.
Even when i have a 3G connection and get tethered speeds in the 500-800 range my PIE connections seem to be slow like this as well.
I realize that the CPU power of the phone may mean slightly longer loading times to render a page, but the speed difference seems tenfold.
It also seems strange that if I were to download like a 3Mb file it would transfer at speeds more closely matching my tethered speeds, but HTML website browsing is very slow. Bringing up anything other than google usually takes at least a minute to get a usable page.
Am I alone in this? If so...any suggestions. If not...any explanations?
thx
I ran a speed test at mobilespeedtest.com and got this
I think its way too good to be true, is anyone else at this speed?
kylez64 said:
I ran a speed test at mobilespeedtest.com and got this
I think its way too good to be true, is anyone else at this speed?
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If it goes through a proxy it will screw things up. I once did a GPRS test (on an SE W580i) and got 40kbps with the SE browser. On opera mini it would tell me I was on 56MB
I did the test off and on now with around the same results
it says compared to other isps its about 9 times faster, i thought for sure there was an error, or just extremely lucky.
kylez64 said:
I did the test off and on now with around the same results
it says compared to other isps its about 9 times faster, i thought for sure there was an error, or just extremely lucky.
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try some other speed test site
mobilespeedtest.com says my 3g speed is 11907 Kbps oO
lukluk says my max speed is 619 Kbps
Xtreme lab's speedtest app says my d/l speed is 447 Kbits/s
speed testing - the badass way
Okay if you want to do this right, first turn off any compression you may have enabled in Connections. Tether up a laptop with wmwifirouter (grab a trial). Might as well turn up your wifi strength on the phone but that may not matter. On the computer make sure you've got no crap running in the background that uses bandwidth including IM and p2p obviously on either the phone or the computer. Fire up a browser and do multiple tests from multiple servers on http://speakeasy.net/speedtest.
When you're done, for good measure, repeat but tethering through usb not wifi. I believe wifi may be faster than wifi and it does matter when you're testing a connection with possible but very unlikely throughput in the neighborhood of six bonded T1 lines.
Doug
edit: Sometimes carriers and ISPs cheat on their customers' bandwidth testing by packet bursting, shaping, throttling and proxy tricks. Since you're seeing insane (and most likely erroneous) speed results and if you want to bother getting to the bottom of this, in addition or instead of doing what I said, tether up with your computer, install this little simple bandwidth meter (on the computer) which I attached and download this 256.5MB copy of OpenBSD from this mirror on your computer:
ftp://filedump.se.rit.edu/pub/OpenBSD/4.5/amd64/install45.iso
And watch your bandwidth meter. Also fire up your best stopwatch and clock the full download and do some math to get the speed.
While you're at it figure out a way to upload a >10MB file somewhere and clock that too. Be advised your throughput testing may be confounded by the time of day and your carrier's network saturation in addition to your signal strength which might vary if you've got your laptop screen in between your phone and the path to the nearest tower.
Wow I guess I turned this into a big project.
edit: if you don't have access to another machine or are too lazy to do the tethering thing at least use dslreports/mspeed to download a 1MB test as opposed to mobilespeedtest.com's 512KB.
d0ugie said:
Okay if you want to do this right, first turn off any compression you may have enabled in Connections. Tether up a laptop with wmwifirouter (grab a trial). Might as well turn up your wifi strength on the phone but that may not matter. On the computer make sure you've got no crap running in the background that uses bandwidth including IM and p2p obviously on either the phone or the computer. Fire up a browser and do multiple tests from multiple servers on http://speakeasy.net/speedtest.
When you're done, for good measure, repeat but tethering through usb not wifi. I believe wifi may be faster than wifi and it does matter when you're testing a connection with possible but very unlikely throughput in the neighborhood of six bonded T1 lines.
Doug
edit: Sometimes carriers and ISPs cheat on their customers' bandwidth testing by packet bursting, shaping, throttling and proxy tricks. Since you're seeing insane (and most likely erroneous) speed results and if you want to bother getting to the bottom of this, in addition or instead of doing what I said, tether up with your computer, install this little simple bandwidth meter (on the computer) which I attached and download this 256.5MB copy of OpenBSD from this mirror on your computer:
ftp://filedump.se.rit.edu/pub/OpenBSD/4.5/amd64/install45.iso
And watch your bandwidth meter. Also fire up your best stopwatch and clock the full download and do some math to get the speed.
While you're at it figure out a way to upload a >10MB file somewhere and clock that too. Be advised your throughput testing may be confounded by the time of day and your carrier's network saturation in addition to your signal strength which might vary if you've got your laptop screen in between your phone and the path to the nearest tower.
Wow I guess I turned this into a big project.
edit: if you don't have access to another machine or are too lazy to do the tethering thing at least use dslreports/mspeed to download a 1MB test as opposed to mobilespeedtest.com's 512KB.
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well I did this and got around 1-2 mbps witch is still very good for me
one can always dream though lol
So I have a quick question about wired tether. For those of you that use it, does yours keep a steady download rate? Mine fluctuates anywhere from 15kb up to 1.0mb but doesnt stay at one speed consistently. I dont have cable so I watch alot of hulu videos but the fluctuation causes it to stop the video randomly. I have full bars of signal so I dont see why it cant keep a constant speed. Any advice would be appreciated.
Edit: Now im noticing that it completely drops the speed to zero and then back up. This is happening at the same time to the upload speed.
kbizzle said:
So I have a quick question about wired tether. For those of you that use it, does yours keep a steady download rate? Mine fluctuates anywhere from 15kb up to 1.0mb but doesnt stay at one speed consistently. I dont have cable so I watch alot of hulu videos but the fluctuation causes it to stop the video randomly. I have full bars of signal so I dont see why it cant keep a constant speed. Any advice would be appreciated.
Edit: Now im noticing that it completely drops the speed to zero and then back up. This is happening at the same time to the upload speed.
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Does your PC have a wireless card? If so, get Wireless Tether, I use it and it works great for me. I haven't tried streaming any movies while using it, but I would imagine it would be good. You could also try PdaNet. I think the latter is slower, but I just use my regular internet when I'm at home. Hope this helps
Twolazyg said:
Does your PC have a wireless card? If so, get Wireless Tether, I use it and it works great for me. I haven't tried streaming any movies while using it, but I would imagine it would be good. You could also try PdaNet. I think the latter is slower, but I just use my regular internet when I'm at home. Hope this helps
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Thanks for the response. Unfortunately, I have found that wireless tether seems to run slower than the wired tether. I think it may be rom related cause it works better on some roms then others.
kbizzle said:
So I have a quick question about wired tether. For those of you that use it, does yours keep a steady download rate? Mine fluctuates anywhere from 15kb up to 1.0mb but doesnt stay at one speed consistently. I dont have cable so I watch alot of hulu videos but the fluctuation causes it to stop the video randomly. I have full bars of signal so I dont see why it cant keep a constant speed. Any advice would be appreciated.
Edit: Now im noticing that it completely drops the speed to zero and then back up. This is happening at the same time to the upload speed.
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I use wired tether everyday, for both it's speed and the fact it doesnt turn my phone into a small battery powered heater like wifi tether does. I have noticed fluctuations in download rates, and it seems to occur more often with streaming than it does with a straight download. It is somewhat normal for a phone's signal to fluctuate some even if you have full signal bars. When I watch youtube or hulu I simply turn the quality down. It caches faster this way and thus is not as affected by the drops in speed.
In the past month or so, I've surpassed 15GB of data due to lots of video streaming and some torrent downloading. Since then, it seems that any time I try to download another torrent, my speeds are throttled to less than 10KB/s. I usually use ADownloader, and find it more convenient and (previously) much faster than from my home connection, but now when I resume a torrent, ALL data suffers, and am unable to even browse the web or run a basic speed test without timing out. As soon as I pause/stop the download, speeds ramp back up. I should note that if I switch to Wifi, and use my home connection, speeds come back up to what I would expect. So it doesn't appear to be an issue with the software.
I haven't noticed anyone pointing this out, but it does seem that they will throttle torrent users. What I don't understand is why throttle to such a ridiculously slow speed? At least bring me down to 3G speeds (~1MB/s). To drop me to less than 10KB/s is an insult.
What's next? Will they throttle heavy Netflix users? Amazon Prime streaming? etc. Is there really not enough bandwidth to go around? I might call Verizon to confirm/deny my findings so I can figure out what they actually care about. I have a feeling I'm not going to get a straight answer, or they will just not know what is actually taking place
Are you using tTorrent or another client that will randomize the port? Try picking another random port, it usually fixes it.
Those apps are not gentle on your wireless modems. I wouldn't necessarily assume it was Verizon doing it.
I had talked to a verizon customer service lady over the phone and asked her about throttling and she say there poloicy is to never throttle there customers connection. she uses her hot spot on here thunderbolt and exceeds 10g all the time and has never seen throttling so I would think more that it was your software like the aboved has mentioned
having a lot of simultaneous connections like torrents do can cause issues with the modem and wireless hardware, I've crashed my router a few times getting too torrent happy, I assume doing it with something that wasn't made really to handles such traffic would cause issues as well.
I say slow because they are much slower that a Galaxy S4 and Note 3. At work today we were testing out a Belkin AC router to a cable modem. Using the Speedtest.net app the galaxy's were reliably hitting 200-210 Mbs download speeds. My new One was only able to muster 95Mbs down. I come home and connect to my ASUS N66 router and I'm able to hit 104Mbs reliably. What gives? This makes no sense to me. I verified I had a 433 Mbs link when on the AC router at work, same as the Samsungs, we were all in the same location I even tried standing where they were and holding the phone differently in-case I was blocking the antenna. I never expected to be able to get 104 down at home standing one room and 30 feet for the router. Is there something weird going on with the app maybe?
petersbc said:
I say slow because they are much slower that a Galaxy S4 and Note 3. At work today we were testing out a Belkin AC router to a cable modem. Using the Speedtest.net app the galaxy's were reliably hitting 200-210 Mbs download speeds. My new One was only able to muster 95Mbs down. I come home and connect to my ASUS N66 router and I'm able to hit 104Mbs reliably. What gives? This makes no sense to me. I verified I had a 433 Mbs link when on the AC router at work, same as the Samsungs, we were all in the same location I even tried standing where they were and holding the phone differently in-case I was blocking the antenna. I never expected to be able to get 104 down at home standing one room and 30 feet for the router. Is there something weird going on with the app maybe?
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In WiFi advanced settings, disable WiFi optimization - other uses stated it helped them to increase the speeds.
Settings>WiFi>Advanced
davebugyi said:
In WiFi advanced settings, disable WiFi optimization - other uses stated it helped them to increase the speeds.
Settings>WiFi>Advanced
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Thanks I read that and tried it to no avail. Speeds were better yesterday at 150Mbs and inline with a coworkers brand new ONE running 4.3. I believe it is just a matter of how HTC deals with packet size (windowing) and not truly indicative of throughput capability. The test runs for a limited time and the throughput increased throughout the entire test. If it ran longer it would climb higher but just how high is the question.
It's a matter of curiosity more than anything as I never need those speeds nor are the repeatable anywhere but in that test"lab" In reality I only have a 100M connection at home and with power boost see speeds of 150 max. I get 100+ reliably (5Ghz N network) to the phone from my main living space and that's nothing to complain about.
I will have to say the range on the ONE is outstanding. My desk is 100 feet from the AP and I was able to obtain 125Mbs reliably from my desk. I didn't have the chance to compare it to the S4 at that distance but I can't complain about that speed.