Database Develop

Slingplayer freezing and choppy (AT&T Tilt)

I'm currently running the stock AT&T Rom (Windows Mobile 6.0) without bloatware on my Tilt. I'm running the newest Slingbox (1.6) for Pocket PC.
I currently have 2 "H" signal where I watch my slingplayer, but either my phone or the signal is screwy.
When watching I will have bursts of good framerate, but constant freezing, and choppy playback.
I've tried all sorts of combinations of settings.
I've tried the slingplayer auto optimization, I've set my bit rate to a variety of amounts, and frame rates, as well as with and without the GDI rendering. I've tried just about every combo of settings in the player. I do know that this is not on the slingbox's end though, as it works great from computers when remote viewing..
I've changed my KaiserTweak settings (such as TCP windows size) but none of those improve it.
I've even set my bitrate to the lowest possible it still freezes off and on. I've gotten to the point where I think it must be the phone that is causing this.
I'm surprised I don't see more people with this issue.
Does anyone have any suggestions that may improve this for me?

what is the lowest bw that slingplayer have? if you are using edge, you'll have to be able to go as low as 40kbps... also, what is your upstream bw limited to? try connecting via wifi & see if you are still having problems.
i use orb to stream my tv tuner & prefer not to waste money on slingplayer...

If you want to see if it's the phone or the signal, plug it into a computer on the network of your SlingBox and use the ActiveSync connection. At least that way, if it works great you know it's a singal/bandwidth issue, and if it's still screwy, you know it's your phone.
Personally, mine ran fine on the AT&T stock Rom for quite a while, and I didn't really notice any issues....but I usually had at least 3 or 4 H bars when I was using it. Right now I'm running a cooked 6.1 rom and it works great on that too, but you should still be able to get decent playback with stock.
Another thing to try (this might sound odd), but try disabling HDSPA. There could be a chance that you actually get better signal with 3G than with H (and 3G is still enough speed for a smooth picture).

Have you tried it on a Wireless LAN? Mine works no problem at all either on 3g or wireless lan.

odd.... I have edge so I dont sling unless I find wifi or travel out of my city to a 3g or better area. But when I was on "H" it was near wifi quality with no hiccups. Try wifi and try ruling out at&t's network.
SlingBox Rules. One of the greatest purchases I've ever made. I like connecting to my friends slingbox in oregon to watch Pac 10 college football games! Go Trojans

Well I connected my phone to my wifi at home (network my box is on) - and it was better, but still not great. Maybe I'm just expecting too much.
Even at home my frame-rate was fairly choppy. I tried Auto optimization, and many variations of bit-rate and other settings (GDI).
Is there any setting in KaiserTweak that may actually slow internet? Such as TCP window size, or resends (Data/Connect)? (Would the GDI/Font Cache help with slingplayer any since it's using GDI rendering?
Thanks for the suggestions so far guys. It may just be this spot were I sit at work has a shakey signal strength or something.
If anyone has any other suggestions please let me know - Thanks.
@Valtamr: I did try disabling H once a few weeks back, and for that day I thought it was better, but later it started acting up again. Do you know why H might sometimes be worse?

nogardtilt said:
@Valtamr: I did try disabling H once a few weeks back, and for that day I thought it was better, but later it started acting up again. Do you know why H might sometimes be worse?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not really sure why that could be the case. I just know that in certain places I can get a very different level of signal strength between E and H (E is full strength, but only 2 bars of H), so I thought that could possibly also be the case between H and 3G (maybe you could get 4 bars of 3G where you only could get 2 bars of H). So yeah....I don't have a whole lot of knowledge behind that, but I figured it was an easy enough test to try....just trying to help you troubleshoot.

Have you tried it in non full screen? Full screen I get crappy playback but in non full screen its pretty much perfect.

netboy said:
Have you tried it in non full screen? Full screen I get crappy playback but in non full screen its pretty much perfect.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not surprised by that, when you do that it's a smaller resolution - which uses less bandwidth.
I'll try again next work-week (couldn't test today) to see if any of these suggestions helped. At the point I'm assuming that I have some network issues where I sit.

Well, I did try the suggestions a few weeks back but no change. I still assume where I sit at work has some signal issues.
I did notice however that even at home on my wifi my frame-rate was still choppier than it should have been. This I have attributed to the poor video playback on the Tilt.
In any case, I did discover something helpful here: I updated to the official AT&T 6.1 ROM and noticed a drastic improvement. Although the video playback is not where it should be for the phone, it did improve the Slingplayer quality greatly.
I could instantly notice the video looked smoother and more consistent. I now can go 1-2 hours of slingplaying with only 1 or 2 hiccups, and those have been very minor.
I think my earlier troubles were a mix of the phone performance and the signal. But the 6.1 change has really helped out.
I need to try the HTC CA drivers and see if it helps anymore. I did notice that the Samsung Omnia ones "seemed" to help some (back on 6.0) - but I know it was not supposed to, so maybe I just had a lucky streak of good signal or something.

Can't Find Any Info
I am having trouble using Orb on my Tilt. I can watch videos/tv through my wifi but not on the gprs EDGE network. You guys are saying that it's working for you. What am I doing wrong? Every time I click on video or tv channel it opens up WMP and says "paused" then eventually says "The server is busy or is not responding. Try again later." I have tried everything.

rileytrotter said:
I am having trouble using Orb on my Tilt. I can watch videos/tv through my wifi but not on the gprs EDGE network. You guys are saying that it's working for you. What am I doing wrong? Every time I click on video or tv channel it opens up WMP and says "paused" then eventually says "The server is busy or is not responding. Try again later." I have tried everything.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, I can't speak for Orb.....but yeah, I said streaming video is working for me. What I DIDN'T say is that streaming video is working for me on EDGE. So what are you doing wrong?.....you are trying to get streaming video to work over a connection that is too slow for it. You need to have a decent 3G (preferably HSDPA) connection to be able to use this sort of thing - EDGE simply wasn't made to do what you are trying to do.

I am experiencing the same issue on a brand new Sprint Touch pro with slingplayer 1.6. The phone is an EVDO rev-a device and I still get low framerate, dropping datarate, etc, then sometimes it falls back to the 1x network. I tried wifi connected to a WRT54g and it definitely stabilized but the kbps averaged 245 to 330 at 14 FPS. My Windows xp client averages about 745 kbps on the same internet connection.
I tried it at home where the slingbox truly resides, connected to wifi and there were still low results. I thought for sure it would go over 1000 kbps. There has to be some network throttling going on on Windows Mobile.
Any others out there experiencing this? Any other tweaks that someone else may discovered?

I get the same, tethered to my laptop I get impeccable performance.
The same 3g connection on my tilt stutters on full screen, i generally enable slingstream optimisation and gdi rendering which helps.
There is a new Mobile Client in the pipeline.... although if its a driver issue the tilt is screwed either way, because on my Blue Angel over wifi slingplayer is perfect, as good as a portable tv.
Im assuming its a combination of bad drivers and slingplayer throttling the bandwidth for battery purposes.
Id like to be able to have a slider much like the wifi performance one, because a lot of the time my tilt is externally powered, so power usage is not an issue.

I kinda had this problem when I switched from my 8525 to the tilt, I just switched all the setting back to default and it is pretty much flawless as long as I'm in 3g and also pretty damn good in the edge network as long as I have at least 3 bars. Have you tried reinstalling Slingplayer mobile/ Also make sure you dont have any background application running in your active programs list.

USB tethering

What program are you using to achieve this?
Does this wear the battery down like wifi tether or if your phone is on usb the battery never drains faster than it can charge?

If the USB port you are connected to can supply the full 500mA, it will be enough power to run the tether and charge G1 (albeit very slowly). The battery will also warm up quite a bit (to about 50C). Sometimes the phone may get into a situation where it has not properly requested power from the USB controller and it will drain battery. Simply unplug and replug to fix that. It is also possible to charge faster than drain using Bluetooth tether.
The go to programs for root users would be Wireless Tether for Root and Wired Tether for Root. For stock users, check out PDAnet.

Thank you. It sounds like if I was going to set up a always on internet connection the BT is the way to go.
Here's what I'm thinking, when 7.2 becomes available from T-mo, make that my constant 24/7 connection for my desktop.
What's wrong with that plan?

jlacy76 said:
Thank you. It sounds like if I was going to set up a always on internet connection the BT is the way to go.
Here's what I'm thinking, when 7.2 becomes available from T-mo, make that my constant 24/7 connection for my desktop.
What's wrong with that plan?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There's still a hidden cap for the bandwidth I believe. Also, if you do any activity that requires low latency, wireless (as in cell, not wifi) probably won't work well.

Since this is sorta on the topic.. anyone know how to get the usb tethering feature an cyans rom to work? i click it, it makes sound on my lap top.. but then what?
edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580181&highlight=usb+tethering

cigar3tte said:
There's still a hidden cap for the bandwidth I believe. Also, if you do any activity that requires low latency, wireless (as in cell, not wifi) probably won't work well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My thinking was just another g1 and use my other g1 for telephone etc. This would just replace my dsl.
Wifi tether drains my battery faster than it can charge, so what are my options?

jlacy76 said:
Wifi tether drains my battery faster than it can charge, so what are my options?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Use a dual input USB cable, like those for portable hard drives (example here). Or go over bluetooth. Or go over USB in cyan's roms.

jlacy76 said:
Thank you. It sounds like if I was going to set up a always on internet connection the BT is the way to go.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You'd probably want to use the USB instead of BT, as using the BT radio will cause additional heat generation. BT 2.1+EDR also has a hard bandwidth cap of 3Mbps (your actual thoroughput may be even lower depending on the amount of WiFi interference in your area)
Here's what I'm thinking, when 7.2 becomes available from T-mo, make that my constant 24/7 connection for my desktop.
What's wrong with that plan?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As stated already, the first problem would be the 10GB bandwidth cap/throttle. Secondly, it's likely you'll be getting less than 7.2 at times other than at night if you are in an urban area. Finally, your rt ping will be pretty poor compared to a wired internet service. That can translate into a sluggish browsing experience.
I can say all of the above because I am actually using HSDPA as my home internet access now (not staying where I am long enough to justify a DSL installation and contract).

I saw that in the Cyan roms and that was one of the things that triggered this search.
Even if I had 1.5 down that would be fine. 7.2 would be better but we'll have to wait and see on the cap.
The real question for me is which method won't run the battery down faster than it can charge?

slow tether

weather it be wifi or wired tether, it loads websites extremely slow, despite the fact of a good test speed on my phone, any idea of why this is happening?

jad011 said:
weather it be wifi or wired tether, it loads websites extremely slow, despite the fact of a good test speed on my phone, any idea of why this is happening?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wifi thether or whichever cant procees your IC's full speed. The G1 is limited by the data chip inside, so internet speeds wil be slower then your desktop/laptop.

Same for me. I've done a lot of testing on this. Any sort of tethering, for me, will not yield xfer speeds in excess of about 700k. That's over USB or BT. My phone itself is capable of around 3000k on Wifi (using the Speedtest apk), but much slower through the browser. Max speed tethering over Wifi won't be known till T-Mo starts rolling out HSDPA. But based on the 3000k link over the phone's Wifi, I'm hopeful that a HSDPA-to-Wifi speeds could be in excess of 700k.

3g how long before connection issues?

how long can you browse or stream on 3g before the connection dies when you have full signal?
I'm getting three or four pages, then I have to enable airplane mode to reset the connection. actual speed is great, and signal strength good, but connection time is never over five minutes. does froyo contribute to this?
i'm using the default (no root, nothing special) froyo with the included radio on a stock non-root n1.

So far, I don't see an upper limit on how long my connection will last. It has never cut out on me. So I say I can load an infinite amount of pages before it cuts out...
What Radio/Software are you using?
I'm on stock rom, stock browser on Fido. Latest Radio.

ohgood said:
how long can you browse or stream on 3g before the connection dies when you have full signal?
I'm getting three or four pages, then I have to enable airplane mode to reset the connection. actual speed is great, and signal strength good, but connection time is never over five minutes. does froyo contribute to this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Newest 2.2 Froyo and newest radio. No 3G dropping issues on ROgers in Halifax, Nova Scotia,

Clarkster said:
So far, I don't see an upper limit on how long my connection will last. It has never cut out on me. So I say I can load an infinite amount of pages before it cuts out...
What Radio/Software are you using?
I'm on stock rom, stock browser on Fido. Latest Radio.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i should have input my current config... updating original post
it doesn't matter if i use the default browser, or dolphin, or any other application. after 4-5 views/pages/whatever it will end up with a non working connection. it appears that the is UP travel, for 30 seconds to a minute or more, but no DOWN travel at all. during this time pages will disply "No Connection at this time, try again later" or a similar message.
I'm using my n1 on tmobile, with 3-4 bars of 3G coverage, while stationary. doesn't seem to matter if i'm on a tower i usually use @ my home, or at work, or where. it's a pretty consistant failure of traffic.

I can go hours. In fact I've never had this issue I've read about.

It sounds like you've eliminated all other options. i.e. does the same thing no matter where you are or what the signal strength is.
Which normally should mean it is on your end. Do you have any apps installed that could interfere? Maybe some data transfer meter, or some apps that are auto syncing?

Ive had this same problem no matter what rom or radio im using. My phone shows a 3g connection with full signal but pages wont load.

Clarkster said:
It sounds like you've eliminated all other options. i.e. does the same thing no matter where you are or what the signal strength is.
Which normally should mean it is on your end. Do you have any apps installed that could interfere? Maybe some data transfer meter, or some apps that are auto syncing?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
none nope
hmmm

My connection could get stuck some times, but that was before I updated to Froyo. What would happen was that it would seem to be constantly uploading and I couldn't use the connection for anything so I had to go airplane-mode and back.
Don't really know what the issue you have is though, especially since mine went away with Froyo. I've been browsing for _long_ periods of time after I got Froyo without any issues so...

[Q] Tethering speeds drop when charging. Why?

Hey folks, I can probably guess at why this happens, but I was hoping someone would have a definitive answer and a possible solution.
I work in remote parts of Australia where the only internet is Telstra 3G, so I use my phone as a modem to surf the net on my lap-top. Obviously when fully charged I don't need to have the phone plugged into the wall or USB port, so I get normal speeds. But as soon as I plug her in, the speeds drop immediately. I've done multiple speedtest.net tests so I know it's happening. It even happened when I had an iPhone4 (yeah, I know...) so it seems to be something to do with charging. Is it an elctromagnetic thing that affects the aerial reception? Is there a way to reduce this interference? Kinda sucks when you want to download and charge at the same time. Or play WoW and not get too much lag...
Thanks in advance.

Never tried Wi-Fi tether but with usb it never went slow for me
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

I would say that your charger is introducing a source of interference. About WoW though, you shouldn't really be peaking your bandwidth in games, it's more about latency there, so that shouldn't be affected by this unless you're dropping packets when charging (could be).