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I see all these posts about MEdiaMax and the HTC phones, but what about MediaNet Unlimited? Are you legally allowed to use it with a PDA?
In the Terms/Conditions it says that the Media bundles are not to be used with a PDA, but MEdiaNet Unlimited is only MEdiaNet, no messaging, so it's not a bundle, right? As long as I don't tether the device, I'm legal, correct? (I don't have a laptop and my home is not in a 3G area, so what's the point?)
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I see all these posts about MEdiaMax and the HTC phones, but what about MediaNet Unlimited? Are you legally allowed to use it with a PDA?
In the Terms/Conditions it says that the Media bundles are not to be used with a PDA, but MEdiaNet Unlimited is only MEdiaNet, no messaging, so it's not a bundle, right? As long as I don't tether the device, I'm legal, correct? (I don't have a laptop and my home is not in a 3G area, so what's the point?)
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You dont want MediaNet Unlimited. What a bunch of marketing doublespeak!! I quote from the AT and T website:
"For full details on Messaging or MEdia Net, see the AT&T MEdia brochure, att.com/mediaterms. Pay-Per-Use Charges: Text/Instant Messaging 15¢/message; Picture/Video Messages 25¢/message; MEdia Net Browsing 1¢/KB. MEdia Net and MEdia Bundles are not available on PDAs/Pocket PCs, RIM® devices or LaptopConnect cards. If your usage of the Services (including unlimited data plans) on other carriers' wireless networks ("offnet usage") during any two consecutive months exceeds your offnet usage allowance, AT&T may at its option terminate your wireless service or access to data Services, deny your continued use of other carriers' coverage, or change your plan to one imposing usage charges for offnet usage. Your offnet usage allowance is equal to the lesser of 6 megabytes or 20% of the kilobytes included with your plan and for messaging plans the lesser of 3000 messages or 50% of the messages included with your plan. AT&T will provide notice that it intends to take any of the above actions and you may terminate your agreement."
To me that says you have unlimited use as long as you pay for usage at thier highest rate. Also, it specifies it does it is not for pocket PC's.
This plan is NOT intended for Pocket PC's (like yours) and since you only pay for the data you use (no free data at all) you pay top dollar for all the data you DO use. That means things like the weather plugins etc on yer phone that want to grab data off of the network on a regular basis you will pay for every kilobyte at the most expensive rate.
Technically its not legal, and even if it was, it is probably not in your best interest.
Its the same thing. Unlimited MediaNet was changed to Media Max 200. it was unlimited media net and 200 texts. They decided not to combine them anymore, so its media net again.
pdas can be used on media net, technically. its the same ip address and settings, but siince PDAs use more data, at&t charges a premium on PDA Max. I dont know what at&t will do if they audit your line.
I use media max 200 btw
so which is the maximum-unlimited and economical plan worth your recommendation other than the 200?
I don't have a reason to get the SMS bundles because I already have the Family Messaging Unlimited. I called and told the CRS I wanted Unlimited Internet usage added to my line, didn't specify which package, and that's what he told me I needed and he added it. If they overcharge me, you can better believe that they will have a phone call.
Just change it yourself on the extranet. Easy as pie.
Why would I change it? If they put me on the $15 plan, I'm going to use it, if they charge me then it's their CSR's fault, not mine.
Why pay more if that's what they gave me?
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Its the same thing. Unlimited MediaNet was changed to Media Max 200. it was unlimited media net and 200 texts. They decided not to combine them anymore, so its media net again.
pdas can be used on media net, technically. its the same ip address and settings, but siince PDAs use more data, at&t charges a premium on PDA Max. I dont know what at&t will do if they audit your line.
I use media max 200 btw
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mostly correct, however...
They didn't really "change" them, the Unlimited MediaNet w/o text was designed for peolpe whom have an old texting plan, family texting, or otherwise a seperate texting plan and did not want to change it (or couldnt, for family unlimited)...
So they created MediaNet unlimited for the same price, without texting, to allow people to keep these plans..
I have 1000 texts for $10 (retired feature), so I went with MediaNet Unlimited seperatly
i'm on MM200 w/ tilt.... Icalled in and they did it for me so how was I supposd to know?
Do you have any idea how spoiled you all are in the US with those plans and offers. I envy you
Living in Taiwan , the kingdom of technology, I paid +700 USD for my Tytn II as we do not have combined offers at that level.
And as for Media... there is Emome from Chunghwa. 10 USD games from 5 years ago platforms.
And a monhtly minimal fee is here around 20-25 US without any Freebies.
ceevee369, why should you complain, too? Visit Myanmar to see how much it costs!!!
I have had MediaNet Unlimited @ $20/month for close to 2 years now (on a Treo 650, 680, 750 and now Tilt). It truely is unlimited, never had any issues.
ive had $20/unlimited since the 8125 and never had any issues either.. with the lovely 3g i do 300-400mb a day with mobitv+xm radio+google maps its great to have full 3g @ work and mostly everywhere.. granted i only pull 1 bar @ home of 3g/H outside of the house is 3-4 bars no issue.. never had a problem paying.. never been late so maybe that helps? who knows.
I use AT&T MediaNET unlimited with Tilt.
I downloaded the internet sharing tool (AT&T deleted it from the Tilt). Disabled proxy in the network connection - and voila, I have a wireless modem for my laptop with unlimited traffic. Speeds with enabled HSDPA go up to 80 KB/s where I'm using it. It's probably different in other areas.
I play BF 2142 through it (it's not bad, around 120 ping), download files, do all my regular stuff. I talked to the supervisor in AT&T and I'm pretty much sure that they will never impose "too much traffic" or find out that it tethers to the laptop.
I pay $20/mo for it for one phone.
Just my $.02
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I use AT&T MediaNET unlimited with Tilt.
I downloaded the internet sharing tool (AT&T deleted it from the Tilt). Disabled proxy in the network connection - and voila, I have a wireless modem for my laptop with unlimited traffic. Speeds with enabled HSDPA go up to 80 KB/s where I'm using it. It's probably different in other areas.
I play BF 2142 through it (it's not bad, around 120 ping), download files, do all my regular stuff. I talked to the supervisor in AT&T and I'm pretty much sure that they will never impose "too much traffic" or find out that it tethers to the laptop.
I pay $20/mo for it for one phone.
Just my $.02
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Same here.
Went from a sony ericsson in 2002-3 which the plan was originally signed up for to a ipaq 6515 then to kaiser.
Still paying $19.99/mo for unlimited HSDPA speeds here in DC.
i get unlimted medianet/ internet and 1500 text (unlimited m to m) for $20
well, hopefully ill be fine. I have been with cingular/att for almost 5 years with a perfect record and now running four lines on my family plan with unlmtd texts and now medianet unlimited on one line. plus I just extended my contract to pick up a tilt for 150 dolars... whaaaat?
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well, hopefully ill be fine. I have been with cingular/att for almost 5 years with a perfect record and now running four lines on my family plan with unlmtd texts and now medianet unlimited on one line. plus I just extended my contract to pick up a tilt for 150 dolars... whaaaat?
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Tell them the Tilt is for one of the other lines, not the one with medianet unlimited. As we've seen above it probably doesn't matter but I figure it's one less way to draw attention to your account. I got my Tilt as an upgrade on my daughter's line. I "upgraded" to a RAZR that my wife uses on her work-provided line and that's the phone with the medianet plan (I've got the MediaMax 200) assigned to it.
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i get unlimted medianet/ internet and 1500 text (unlimited m to m) for $20
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I have the exact same plan, i just went online and changed my plan, been this way for almost 2 years now. Never had an issue, I also run agile mobile and sync with 2 email accounts that are pretty active. On the website it doesn't say what plans you can or can't use, so thats my arguement if it ever comes up.
inneyeseakay: what has led you to believe that there is some kind of law that prevents you from using a data plan with your PDA phone? Certainly you are "legally" allowed to do so.
DarkDvr: when I had the stock AT&T Tilt ROM, I did find out that Internet Sharing was in the Windows folder, AT&T had just deleted the shortcut in your start menu. It should be called IntShrUI.exe. I believe someone on the forum here brought that to my attention. I just wanted to let you know in case you do a hard reset that you do not have to go through the trouble of downloading the Internet Sharing application again.
iPhone users only pay $20 a month for their unlimited data. The iPhone's browser displays far more data than Windows Mobile's default browser. Not only that, but Youtube is built in to the iPhone's interface, and videos certainly require a lot of data transfer. I have had Medianet unlimited for almost 2 years with PDA phones. If it is somehow against their terms, it is up to them to take action. I certainly do not feel as if I am "ripping off" AT&T somehow by continuing to use the plan I have had for quite a while. Last month I only used 5 MB of data, so I am not abusing it either.
AT&T has had a history of bias against PDA phones and smartphones. They let me pay $5 a month for 6 months for insurance for my phone which they did not even cover. I did not even know how to get to the page which showed the excluded phones, someone posted it on a forum. Regardless they didn't even refund my money.
What type of plan do you have? And which options do I look for in order to maximize the capabilities of the Kaiser on Rogers' network?
I have the 3 yr vid calling plan (free for 3 years on contract) not sure if they have that now. Its weird to be saying this but overall, u should check out the rogers section at howardforums. Aside from that I am using a basic data plan that still works (10 megs for $5) but it can be tricky to get, especially now that rogers has Windows mobile data plans.
Good luck!
Thanks for the reply. A couple more questions. What is the difference between a data plan and the Unlimited On-Device Mobile Browsing Plan for $7 that is offered? This is my first time owning a phone that will be able to access the internet so I'm not sure what I need.
This is basically what I want to use in addition to the plan I have now (which is 250 anytime minutes, and the $11 Communicate value pack). I want to be able to use the GPS, 3G network, be able to read and send emails, browse the internet occasionally (youtube, etc.) and use Windows Live Messenger.
everything will basically need data except what u use for gps will determine if you need data or not
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Thanks for the reply. A couple more questions. What is the difference between a data plan and the Unlimited On-Device Mobile Browsing Plan for $7 that is offered? This is my first time owning a phone that will be able to access the internet so I'm not sure what I need.
This is basically what I want to use in addition to the plan I have now (which is 250 anytime minutes, and the $11 Communicate value pack). I want to be able to use the GPS, 3G network, be able to read and send emails, browse the internet occasionally (youtube, etc.) and use Windows Live Messenger.
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Don't go with the unlimited mobile browsing plan as it's not applicable with non rogers devices =/ (the csr's might not tell you that either) you'll still incur data charges. (check howard forums to confirm)
Your best bet is to wait for the tiered data plan that's coming out in a few weeks.
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Don't go with the unlimited mobile browsing plan as it's not applicable with non rogers devices =/ (the csr's might not tell you that either) you'll still incur data charges. (check howard forums to confirm)
Your best bet is to wait for the tiered data plan that's coming out in a few weeks.
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I'll be carefull with that as well. I have the same plan but on Fido and for the past 2 months, i havent been charged any extra (although i accumulated about 32 mb avg for both months).
Im still watching my data consumption... so hopefully nothing will change in the future.
Hello folks.
Twice recently I've looked at my Vario III and noticed it displaying the H for HSDPA at the top, rather than 3G.
Clicking on to open the connectivity bubble reveals that yes, I am indeed connected to "T-Mobile Internet (HSDPA)".
The only thing is, I'm on their Web 'n' walk data plan, not the Web 'n' walk plus which includes HSDPA.
On both occasions the H has reverted back to 3G after a few minutes.
Does anyone know if T-Mobile are tinkering with their service, perhaps planning to include the faster data to all users, not just the "plus" people?
Or was my phone itself just teasing me and displaying H when it was really regular old 3G?
Any answers welcome.
HSDPA
I too have the same phone on T-Mobile and also use the standard web 'n' walk and I often use HSDPA to connect... Have also connected to the internet with my laptop and get speeds up to around 1.6MB/s.
I think the idea with the web 'n' walk plus and HSDPA is that you are ALLOWED to use it as a computer internet connection and get those higher speeds but with the standard one you get those speeds but only on your mobile.
Phil
Cheers Phil.
I wonder why I've only been connected to it twice though.
Perhaps I've only noticed it twice!
*** UPDATE ***
I woke up this morning, my woman done left me......
ooops, sorry, force of habit.
I woke up this morning and I noticed that I was connected to HSDPA again.
This time the connection remained constant and I still have it now.
Perhaps I can expect it all the time now.
HSPDA is being built through as the new standard of mobile networks all over the world (where currently supported of course) orange UK have been doing this for the past couple of months, so yes I would imagine T-Mobile are upgrading the signal across the network
I'm on Flext with web n walk, i called T-mobile to have HSDPA enabled, generally its pretty stable, but it's not totally uncommon for it to drop back to 3G randomly. I'm not surprised, as im sure the coverage isn't yet 'finished'
i had to upgrade to get it in feb, never came up i upgraded and boom it was there, if everyone is getting it i may just downgrade n save myself £5
It certainly seems to be the case, meandu.
If there are no other advantages to the 'plus' service you should downgrade back to the regular.
No point paying an extra blue one for feck all.
Thanks to everyone that replied.
As far as I am aware, you don't have even have to have web 'n' walk to get the HSDPA speeds - so long as it is enabled then you can use (obviously you will pay more if not on w 'n' w!!). You certainly don't need 'plus' to get it. The reason it fluctuates is that it only shows the 'H' if firstly, you are in an HSDPA area and secondly, it is actually downloading something. The rest of the time it will just show 3G or G, depending on where you are.
I have been with T-Mobile Uk for about six months on their standard W+W package. Until two weeks ago I was only able to get 3G but since then I too have been on HSDPA. They must have changed their policy. If only they'd let windows live work...
The reason you are seeing "H" instead of "3G" is because T-Mobile are now defaulting 3G services onto HSDPA.
The change over happened in Plymouth about 2 weeks ago, I thought it was a blip because sometimes the icon got stuck but soon found out that HSDPA was being enforce.
This is all to do with T-Mob and 3 merging their 3G networks over the course of the year allowing most of us to be able to access the new 7.2Mb Turbo network and later next year the 14Mb Uber Turbo network
Oh and windows live does work for me on default web and walk lol
Thanks for the information.
Frustratingly for me windows live will not work via GPRS, 3G or HSDPA. Synchronisation just takes a while then fails. My understanding was that this was due to T-Mobile port blocking on W+W basic, am I misinformed? I am using Dutty’s 6.1 with version 10.6.34.800, wifi connects with no problem but it means I need to use PIE to access the web based one when out and about. I have encountered the same problems with other ROMs and Windows Live versions.
Is this anyone else’s experience?
I'm on WnW 'basic' and dont have that problem, im pretty sure they dont block it... although i do have random problems connecting to MSN sometimes.. but im sure thats just a signal/software issue.
We had this issue with our work mobiles when using Live and other chat progs, but only with t-mobile. They'll deny it point blank if you call the helpdesk, although that's probably more down to them not knowing anything about port blocking I would think. No issue with O2 or Orange and the chat progs work fine when cradled or via wireless. Incidentally, it's not permanent either, they'll occasionally work for a day or two. I wonder if some sort of usage monitoring is taking place
I am also on T-Mobile UK with a Vario III.
Joined them in Oct 07 on Flext 30 with Web N Walk. I've had HSDPA appearing when downloading since day one - when not downloading it goes to 3G or G if out of 3G coverage.
I am also able to use Windows Live with no problems. I have attached the version I use currently for anyone having an issue with theirs.
Cheers
Zippyioa
See below for T&C's for W&W
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Flext + web'n'walk plans
Subject to connection to Flext or U-Fix + web 'n' walk. Minimum term contract and credit check apply. Subject to coverage. Compatible handset required. Roaming charges apply. Not applicable to connection via CSD. *To ensure a high quality of service for all our customers a 1GB (of data both sent and received in the UK) per month fair use policy applies. If you exceed 1GB per month, we may tell you to reduce your future use. If you again exceed 1GB per month, we may tell you that we are going to apply network protection controls, resulting in a reduced network speed for 14 days. If you exceed 1GB per month for a third time , we may tell you that we are going to apply further network protection controls, resulting in a reduced network speed until you upgrade your price plan to include a larger data allowance. We do not permit use of this service to provide modem access for a computer or for peer to peer file sharing, internet phone calls or instant messaging. Roaming charges apply.
Flext + web'n'walk Plus plans
Subject to connection to Flext + web 'n' walk Plus. Minimum term contract and credit check apply. Compatible laptop and handset required. Not applicable to connection via CSD. Subject to coverage. To ensure a high quality of service for all our customers, a fair use policy of 3GB (of data sent and received in the UK) per month applies. If you exceed 3GB per month, we may tell you to reduce your future use. If you again exceed 3GB per month, we may tell you that we are going to apply network protection controls, resulting in a reduced network speed for 14 days. If you exceed 3GB per month for a third time, we may tell you that we are going to apply further network protection controls, resulting in a reduced network speed until you upgrade your price plan to include a larger data allowance. We do not permit use of this service for internet phone calls. Roaming charges apply.
Flext + web'n'walk Max plan
Subject to connection to selected Flext + web'n'walk Max price plans. Minimum term contract and credit check applies. Compatible laptop and handset required. Not applicable to connection via CSD. Subject to coverage. *To ensure a high quality of service for all our customers, a fair use policy of 10GB (of UK data both sent and received) per month applies. If you exceed 10GB per month, we may tell you to reduce your future use. If you again exceed 10GB per month, we may tell you that we are going to apply network protection controls, resulting in a reduced network speed for 14 days. If you exceed 10GB per month for a third time, we may tell you that we are going to apply further network protection controls, resulting in a reduced network speed until you upgrade your price plan to include a larger data allowance. Roaming charges apply.
Hi ray.andy
Thanks for the legal on this one
I have always known that the T&Cs state you can't use instant messenging on WNW standard. Strangely I and many other customers have always used Windows Live on the standard WNW tariff without issues.
Cheers
Zippyioa
zippyioa said:
Hi ray.andy
Thanks for the legal on this one
I have always known that the T&Cs state you can't use instant messenging on WNW standard. Strangely I and many other customers have always used Windows Live on the standard WNW tariff without issues.
Cheers
Zippyioa
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I would say that as long as you don't go over the usage limit as specified in each tariff then you can use it for anything that you want.
T-Mobile have no way to see what programs/applications are using Data. This is just purely to make customers pay more for the tariffs as they think they are getting a better deal.
I had W&W for £7.50 per month - I used it for internet through my laptop & skype for over a year without any letters/warnings from T-Mobile.
I still think that HSDPA from T-Mobile is fast and well worth the money compared to Orange.
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Ray.Andy: are you sure about that? I'm on T-Mo UK as well, and I remember putting win live on before and it said that the service is blocked. However, I still can use Skype!
I *think* they can monitor ports like on PCs, and stop traffic on certain well-known ports, which then in turn block services.
Personally, I only use IM over wifi with my Tytn II, so it's all far game!
Thanks zippyioa for cab.
Have installed and testing. Seems to perform initial sync with no problems, this was my experience with the other versions also, but then is very tempremental after that. Sync sometimes but not others. I wonder if there is some usage/time limits on this from t-mobile. Those of you with no problems what are your settings for windows live? (ie sync frequency or manual, how often do you sync, does it always succeed, do you sync through windows live or send/receive in messages)
Cheers
This question has already been asked previously, but it was so long ago that the response is out of date.
Does anyone know T Mobiles official policy on HSDPA browsing. Is it available to regular webnwalk customers? Do you need to upgrade to Webnwalk plus or max to browse at those speeds? Are speeds capped on regular webnwalk?
Does anyone have any idea? Because I would rather save myself the extra £5 every month.
You do not get access to HSDPA with regular WNW, you must upgrade to Plus or Max. The only way you may be able to browse at HSDPA speeds with regular WNW is if you were one of the first batch of customers to sign up when they released their' 'unlimited' services (as opposed to the old 40mb service), although a sweep removed this from the majority of accounts.
I was told by two seperate T Mobile Employees that I should get HSDPA on regular WNW and restriction of the standard service was only on content not speed.
However I was told by a third employee that I would need to stay on WebnWalk plus for HSDPA. Yet I cannot see these terms referenced on their website at all.
Think I have a case if I downgrade?
Mmm...
Well i started a new Contract with tmobile (already have an exisiting one, but impatient waiting for the Diamond!) and I used to have the Web and Walk plus added to my account.
However, ive noticed that I get HSDPA on my new phone using the standard web n walk £7.50 package.
This is also what I found out when looking at the tmobile website:
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/services/mobile-internet/on-your-phone/
Scroll to the bottom and then click on
Web n Walk Legal Stuff.
For the £7.50 a month Web n Walk Package
"Fair use policy applies: Subject to coverage. Compatible handset required. Roaming charges apply. Not applicable to connection via CSD. *To ensure a high quality of service for all our customers a 1GB (of data both sent and received in the UK) per month fair use policy applies. If you exceed 1GB per month, we may tell you to reduce your future use. If you again exceed 1GB per month, we may tell you that we are going to apply network protection controls, resulting in a reduced network speed for 14 days. If you exceed 1GB per month for a third time , we may tell you that we are going to apply further network protection controls, resulting in a reduced network speed until you upgrade your price plan to include a larger data allowance. We do not permit use of this service to provide modem access for a computer or for peer to peer file sharing, internet phone calls or instant messaging. Roaming charges apply."
and for the Plus package
"If your pay monthly plan already includes web'nwalk, Mobile Broadband Plus will be £5.00 extra a month and if you don't, it will be £12.50 extra a month. Mobile Broadband Plus will stay on your account until you ask us to remove it. You'll need a compatible laptop, compatible phone and mobile broadband coverage. Remember that you can't use your plan to make internet phone calls. If you use your plan outside of the UK, we'll add roaming charges to your pay monthly account, please see t-mobile.co.uk//broadband for more details. This plan comes with a fair use policy of 3GB a month. We'll monitor how much you send and receive each calendar month so that we can protect our network for all our Mobile Broadband customers. If you use more than your fair use policy amount, we won't charge you any more, but we may restrict how you can use your plan, depending on how often you go over your amount and by how much."
and for the Max Package
"Mobile Broadband Max is £22.50 extra a month and is for use in the UK only. You'll need a compatible laptop, a compatible phone and mobile broadband coverage. If you use your plan outside of the UK, we'll add roaming charges to your pay monthly account. This plan comes with a fair use policy of 10GB a month. We'll monitor how much you send and receive each calendar month so that we can protect our network for all our Mobile Broadband customers. If you use more than your fair use policy amount, we won't charge you any more, but we may restrict how you can use your plan, depending on how often you go over your amount and by how much."
Now i dont see anywhere suggesting that the speed increases with the more you spend, but the Data Allowance and restrictions eg Using Instant Messaging and VOIP are added on with the more you pay.
Hope this is of some use
Unfortunately incosistent information is an issue with T-Mob. Gets on my nerves! I've been with T-Mob for 4 years now so not much experience with the other operaters so I don't know if you get the same issues there.
You are restricted on content with regular WNW, but also on the speed. This was the case a few months ago at least, with further restrictions on P2P e.t.c. being implimented I don't think they would have reversed this policy.
You won't really have a case if you downgrade unfortunately, you'll just be told to move back to Plus or Max.
Hmm.. I know someone else with a Diamond on T Mobile who has regular web n walk (he joined two weeks ago via expansys deal). He gets the big H and little H on his screen in the central London area. Does this not mean hes getting HSDPA?
Sounds like he is getting it. Strange, as I deifnately read that they were no longer including it. Plus I have a friend with an N95 on regular WNW, who doens't get it.
As mentioned I will double check!
Web and Walk definitely includes HSDPA browsing, I've sold the product ever since it was launched. Web and Walk plus just allows you to use your phone/pda as a modem and increases fair useage policy to 3gb. Web and walk max allows 10gb and allows VOIP which other plans do not. They rarely restrict your speed unless you really take the p*ss on your usage. One customer used 8gb on the standard web and walk package and they didn't even notify him, let alone reduce his speed ! They can however tell if you start to use your phone as a modem or use VOIP, they will then eventually ask you to change your package accordingly.
hope this helps
Mickey
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Web and Walk definitely includes HSDPA browsing, I've sold the product ever since it was launched. Web and Walk plus just allows you to use your phone/pda as a modem and increases fair useage policy to 3gb. Web and walk max allows 10gb and allows VOIP which other plans do not. They rarely restrict your speed unless you really take the p*ss on your usage. One customer used 8gb on the standard web and walk package and they didn't even notify him, let alone reduce his speed ! They can however tell if you start to use your phone as a modem or use VOIP, they will then eventually ask you to change your package accordingly.
hope this helps
Mickey
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Thanks.
Is there any documentation you could scan in or a link on the T Mobile website that confirms all this. I hate getting different answers from different employees whenever I call T..
I have always been told (by Tmob shop staff and tele customer services) that HSDPA is included on WNW and I have always had access to HSDPA on WNW without paying for WNW plus or Max.
I agree that T Mob can sometimes be a little inconsistent. But their customer service phone staff and shop staff have always been willing to help. That could be because I am on a reasonably hefty tariff and was one of the first to have an Ameo (ouch!) but I don't think so
PS I don't work for TMob!
In the terms and conditions of web and walk:
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/services/mobile-internet/on-your-phone/
There is nothing that differentiates on what speed you connect with, only how you connect. It actually costs t-mobile less to carry data across a HSDPA or UMTS network than across a GSM network (i.e GPRS), so they are happy to let you connect at any speed. The only reason that web and walk plus and max exist is so t-mobile can make extra cash from people connecting to their high speed networks with their laptops via their phone or PDA as a modem. Otherwise their mobile broadband products (dongles) at £15 per month just wouldn't sell. Max exists just to stop people using VOIP instead of normal calling plans for free and gives them a share of the revenue when people use VOIP to call abroad.
hope that makes sense
Mickey
oh and by the way, T-mobile are in the final stages of sharing their 3g and HSDPA networks with three (who have by far the largest HSDPA coverag in the UK) so t-mobile's HSDPA will get much better in the next couple of months.
Mickey
Yes HSDPA is standard with T-Mobile - and is HSUPA now as of a couple weeks ago if you have a compatible handset which the Diamond is. And it is whippet fast I can tell you!
On the £7.50 option you can actually still use your phone as a modem but if that was detected they have the right to ask you to stop or move up a level. I've occasionally used it as a modem after I moved down from the £12.50 tariff and never had any issues with them over it. If you stay within your usage of 1gb I hardly see as it makes any difference to them.
Hi Everyone,
I'm moving to the UK at the end of the month. And would like to know who would be the best phone provider to go with.
I don't want to go on a contract (prefer pay-as-you-go)...
I would like to use my handset as a mobile broadband modem as well...
I will only need about 300 minutes per month for calls.
Let me know if you need anymore info.
Thanks,
Dave
o2 is the least worst IMO
On the assumption you are only planning on getting a new SIM then check out all of the operators SIM only 30 day tariffs.
In all cases you get inclusive minutes and SMS, the ability to add extras, a data tariff being the biggie, and all for a fixed monthly fee but with no long term commitment.
As for which operator, ask the people in the area you will be moving to as to which has the best coverage. Don't trust the operator's web site for this info.
deedee's spot on with finding out someone in area to see about signal..
The 2 i would recommend if you was going "pay as you go" would be:
o2 £15 p/m unlimited data and unlimited texts, really it's 1000's of texts and 500MB data per month, who i currently use, one prob is taht they cut down certain features on pay as go internet so i have set up full internet email but no MMS, imagine wouldn't allow tethering?
T-Mobile £10 p/m Unlimited Data & Internet, can't find any terms regards texts but the internet is 40MB per day, i will be moving to T-Mobile very soon as it runs out in 31 January the offer.
Hope that helps.
thanks guys.. looks like the included internet (500mb / month) won't cut it for me...
i might have to get a mobile broadband usb dongle + SIM for my mobile
T-mobile's policy is "Fair Usage" they won't and I'm pretty sure Can't do anything if you go over the limit.
They'll just continuously hassle you to upgrade to the next package, blacklist 150 or something