I know ppl use GPS test to get the GPS to be activated then launch google maps afterwards, is there not a reg key or another way other than having to launch 2 apps to get one to work?
Frontline said:
I know ppl use GPS test to get the GPS to be activated then launch google maps afterwards, is there not a reg key or another way other than having to launch 2 apps to get one to work?
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The reason people are using another app to initialize the GPS is because Google Maps default timeout is riduclously low. As someone who has read 99% of the GPS-related posts in the Kaiser forum, I do not believe there is any other way to do it.
That being said, I am far from a master of Windows Mobile, so if someone knows different, please correct me.
Treo is right. the google time out is pretty shallow, and and about 25-30 seconds. Just use Live Search, its a lot better in terms of the amount of crap it allows you to search for.
Plus, the time out isn't as shallow's as google. As long as you have COM4 selected you'll get a signal within 50-60 seconds from a soft reset. Otherwise once the port is already open its a matter of seconds.
Hmm... strange...
With Google maps installed, I have a GPS signal within about 10 seconds (7 or so), but with Windows Live I don't connect for almost 1 minute. I personally was thinking the new "my location" feature was helping the GPS in some way to narrow the search area.
I have also noticed that I can get a signal within my house without much trouble using google, but again Live Search rarely hooks up.
Am I alone in this finding?
pyro9219 said:
Hmm... strange...
With Google maps installed, I have a GPS signal within about 10 seconds (7 or so), but with Windows Live I don't connect for almost 1 minute. I personally was thinking the new "my location" feature was helping the GPS in some way to narrow the search area.
I have also noticed that I can get a signal within my house without much trouble using google, but again Live Search rarely hooks up.
Am I alone in this finding?
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what rom and radio are you using?
1.62.502.0 ROM
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not unhappy with it! I could care less if the GPS works in my house, I think I've mastered the bathroom and kitchen locations
Just noting an opposing observation I've had with my phone in the Portland Oregon Area.
Another observation I've had (it's been a few months since I have used Live Search) is that I can't find a person's house using the Live Search, while I can using the Google.
Finally, I find neither program really what I'd like - Google's only real downfall in my eyes is the lack of auto-updates when not on course (Live Search does this with a prompt). Live search fails because I know products can be faster to get the satellites, as well as lack of residential directions. Google also loads faster, and is the only one that could find the Intel location I work at (one of the largest and well known, would figure it's in both services!) Google also has the aerial view which is nice when trying to figure out massive parking lots (such as at an Intel Campus). Live Search won a few points back because I liked the movies listings, buggy voice searching and auto-updates, but not enough to make me use the product. I will probably be loading it up again sometime before the summer though just to see what sort of progress they have.
And that stoopid connection error poop
I have just gotten used to opening QuickGPS weekly, and gps tool each time. It takes just a few seconds to open GPSTool and start the thing, then close it, and most apps will work after that.
I find GoogleMaps to be poorly designed, albeit free. My biggest issue by far is the connection error. There's a place on the way to work where Google maps just stops, throws a "you have to have a connection" error, and the only option is quit. I quit, immediately restart, and it works from there. I've had that error in some very densely populated areas (River Oaks is the highest price homes, you can bet they have cell antennas in abundance around there, yet it happened around there yesterday.) If it needs to download maps, it can just keep tracking, and get the map when it can, or mention "waiting for map". Idealy you'd be able to cache, best would be able to define certain areas, and it wouldnt even have to download the maps if they havent updated.
Dont get me wrong, as usual Google has done some neat work here, but there are disctint design flaws that make it nearly unusable. So much so that if I dont need the traffic, and just want to see streets, I use tomtom.
sunglint said:
There's a place on the way to work where Google maps just stops, throws a "you have to have a connection" error, and the only option is quit. I quit, immediately restart, and it works from there. I've had that error in some very densely populated areas (River Oaks is the highest price homes, you can bet they have cell antennas in abundance around there, yet it happened around there yesterday.)
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What version of Google Maps are you running?
Frontline said:
I know ppl use GPS test to get the GPS to be activated then launch google maps afterwards, is there not a reg key or another way other than having to launch 2 apps to get one to work?
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The question is not WHY people open GPSTest before opening Google Maps.
The question is how to open both apps via a script, batch file, etc...
I would also like to know if it is possible....
If you think this is a fraud, please don't read any further. If you're an admin and think this is inappropriate, please delete this post. I just want to share my finding.
This may help you guys to get free trial for Sirius and XM radio for a while.
1- use this legally link to create a new email path for your real email.
2- Then use this new email address to register for your free account (3 days on Sirius and 7 days on XM radio).
3- You shouldn't abuse it too much, according to the rule, you can only create 1 account per email address
I don't think this is illegal, or considering as crack or hack... since they offered it to people who has an email address
So that you know, I did subscribe for a full year package on Sirius, but it's just damn too expensive it's like getting another cellphone plan.
Why XM radio so expensive? more than $17/month. I paid $150/year.
PS: get your Sirius and XM radio player here
nice found this would probably be useful for pandora too
Keland44 said:
nice found this would probably be useful for pandora too
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Is there a free soft for Pandora on the Fuze?
well see in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407305&highlight=pandora they offer a cab from the incite for pandora which does work but it has you register with your email and it gives you a one day trial but using that jetable site you can probably give yourself a couple of days worth of use oh i forgot to mention that i think the cab will only work for ATT
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well see in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407305&highlight=pandora they offer a cab from the incite for pandora which does work but it has you register with your email and it gives you a one day trial but using that jetable site you can probably give yourself a couple of days worth of use oh i forgot to mention that i think the cab will only work for ATT
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Pandora doesn't let Canadian User to register anyway...
I use audio scrobbler/lastfm windows mobile client. Crappy interface but nice Pandora like song selection
This is pure silliness. You can get Free sirius radio on an actual sirius radio pretty easy if you are patient. Here is how to do it.
First some background.
The way the sirius, and xm for that matter work is, a signal is sent from the satellites telling it to activate, and what channels it can have. There is no way for the radio to communicate to the satellites, or to sirius or xm at all. The providers have to send a signal which turns if off after deactivation. If the radio never gets this signal, it will not deactivate.
Now, how long will they keep sending the deactivate signal. I'm not sure. Some say 3 months. but there is no way to actually know for sure without talking to them. It takes months. I also have a trick that will make sure you will get this to work.
Get sirius, and pay for service. You have to be out of trial. Or if you have sirius already...
Turn off the radio, disconnect the antenna.
Do not trun it on or connect antenna at ALL!
Call sirius and tell them your radio Broke. This is improtant, If the radio is broke, why keep sending a signal to it?
You will either have to purchase a new radio, or talk them into a free one. Most cases you will get a discount if you tell them you will cancel your subscription.
Once the new radio comes, Put it in your car, and activate it.
Take the old radio, keep it in the base and keep power to it, so it does not loose memory. The memory will keep for some time, but it will die at some point requiring reactivation.
No listen to your sirius, and keep paying for a bit.
wait 6 months, a year is safer.
Hook your disconnected radio back up to antenna and turn it on.
HOLY SMOKES ITS STILL ACTIVATED!!!!
Yes, this works. If you don't believe me, I don't care. Will just rock out for free and you wont.
How did I find this out? I had a radio where the antenna broke while active. I called up sirius and told them my radio didn't work any more and I wanted to cancel because I was not gonna spend any money on a new radio. They sold me one for $15 and credited me a few months, which took care of the cost of the radio and then some. I didn't think anything of this. Had that radio sitting on the shelf for a long time. Almost 2 years. Yes the memory held, but I wouldn't take a chance doing it a second time. About 6 months ago I put the radio in a base to see if it sill worked and to my surprise it was still activated. I did the math and figured how it worked. Still going free.
Do I feel bad about this? NO. Why? Because I still pay for sirius. I have 2 other vehicles I pay for. I use the free on in the house. I used to just take the receiver in every day because I have a base hooked to my stereo.
I can only listen to one at a time. So if I switch from one to the other, whats the difference. Anyway, whatever.:silly:
pandaboyy said:
If you think this is a fraud, please don't read any further. If you're an admin and think this is inappropriate, please delete this post. I just want to share my finding.
This may help you guys to get free trial for Sirius and XM radio for a while.
1- use this legally link to create a new email path for your real email.
2- Then use this new email address to register for your free account (3 days on Sirius and 7 days on XM radio).
3- You shouldn't abuse it too much, according to the rule, you can only create 1 account per email address
I don't think this is illegal, or considering as crack or hack... since they offered it to people who has an email address
So that you know, I did subscribe for a full year package on Sirius, but it's just damn too expensive it's like getting another cellphone plan.
Why XM radio so expensive? more than $17/month. I paid $150/year.
PS: get your Sirius and XM radio player here
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Free Sirius Lifetime 2.0
mchaos said:
This is pure silliness. You can get Free sirius radio on an actual sirius radio pretty easy if you are patient. Here is how to do it.
First some background.
The way the sirius, and xm for that matter work is, a signal is sent from the satellites telling it to activate, and what channels it can have. There is no way for the radio to communicate to the satellites, or to sirius or xm at all. The providers have to send a signal which turns if off after deactivation. If the radio never gets this signal, it will not deactivate.
Now, how long will they keep sending the deactivate signal. I'm not sure. Some say 3 months. but there is no way to actually know for sure without talking to them. It takes months. I also have a trick that will make sure you will get this to work.
Get sirius, and pay for service. You have to be out of trial. Or if you have sirius already...
Turn off the radio, disconnect the antenna.
Do not trun it on or connect antenna at ALL!
Call sirius and tell them your radio Broke. This is improtant, If the radio is broke, why keep sending a signal to it?
You will either have to purchase a new radio, or talk them into a free one. Most cases you will get a discount if you tell them you will cancel your subscription.
Once the new radio comes, Put it in your car, and activate it.
Take the old radio, keep it in the base and keep power to it, so it does not loose memory. The memory will keep for some time, but it will die at some point requiring reactivation.
No listen to your sirius, and keep paying for a bit.
wait 6 months, a year is safer.
Hook your disconnected radio back up to antenna and turn it on.
HOLY SMOKES ITS STILL ACTIVATED!!!!
Yes, this works. If you don't believe me, I don't care. Will just rock out for free and you wont.
How did I find this out? I had a radio where the antenna broke while active. I called up sirius and told them my radio didn't work any more and I wanted to cancel because I was not gonna spend any money on a new radio. They sold me one for $15 and credited me a few months, which took care of the cost of the radio and then some. I didn't think anything of this. Had that radio sitting on the shelf for a long time. Almost 2 years. Yes the memory held, but I wouldn't take a chance doing it a second time. About 6 months ago I put the radio in a base to see if it sill worked and to my surprise it was still activated. I did the math and figured how it worked. Still going free.
Do I feel bad about this? NO. Why? Because I still pay for sirius. I have 2 other vehicles I pay for. I use the free on in the house. I used to just take the receiver in every day because I have a base hooked to my stereo.
I can only listen to one at a time. So if I switch from one to the other, whats the difference. Anyway, whatever.:silly:
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There is an even better way.
1. Get a Radio (I got one cheap at a garage sale)
2. Pay for the ongoing monthly plan (approx. $15 per month + $15 activation)
3. Activate and listen for awhile
4. Once you know your radio is activated and working, turn it off and disconnect the antenna
5. Cancel the subscription, act as if the radio was broken AND/OR you are moving to an area with NO SERVICE. This will keep them from constantly annoying you with offers..
6. Wait approx. 3 months. I personally waited exactly 4 months + 1 day to be safe, but many other people have waited less.
7. Finally, turn on the radio and enjoy free (super-cheap) lifetime subscription
For those worried about wasting ~$40, Sirius regularly will try to give you discounted plans once you "quit". For example, I could have gotten 6 legitimate months for $20 AND free activation. In other words, if it doesn't work for you, you still have a good plan to go off of. For those trying this out, please post success stories regarding the time waited and other factors. Thanks and good luck!
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There is an even better way.
For those worried about wasting ~$40, Sirius regularly will try to give you discounted plans once you "quit". For example, I could have gotten 6 legitimate months for $20 AND free activation. In other words, if it doesn't work for you, you still have a good plan to go off of. For those trying this out, please post success stories regarding the time waited and other factors. Thanks and good luck!
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Does this also work for traffic subscription? Does this method keep this active?
On Cars and Traffic
Taboltini said:
Does this also work for traffic subscription? Does this method keep this active?
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As far as I know, yes. Essentially, all the data is being sent everywhere by 3-4 satellites. Everyone gets these signals, but your sirius device must be activated via code sent in through the satellites. Once you cancel your subscription or it otherwise runs out, the satellites send a "kill signal" along with the music and other data. If your particular radio is listening, it will read that signal and deactivate. I'm not 100% sure how doing this method with in-car devices would be different, but I'd imagine that you'd need to just cut the antenna and/or keep your actual radio powered off. I know that somebody put their motorcycle in a big garage over the winter and their subscription was canceled, and when he turned it on next spring everything worked. In short, unless the traffic costs extra or is something entirely separate, you would be fine. Good luck!
As far as I know, the method hasn't been extensively tested on in-car radios and such. I am not 100% sure cutting power to the radio would be enough to prevent the signal from killing your radio's subscription. Cutting the antenna should work, though. Please test in the future.:fingers-crossed:
But... is it possible to record and to emulate SXM activation signal?
Taboltini said:
But... is it possible to record and to emulate SXM activation signal?
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Technically, yes. You would probably need a software defined radio though, and there might be a problem if they cryptographically secure the activation using something time sensitive or one-time as to prevent replay attacks. What I would be interested in is a way to open the device and make it ignore all activation signals and think it's activated no matter what.
By the way, I'm gonna try this with the OnyX EZ that came free with our car subscription. I know there used to be XM and Sirius, so I'm not entirely sure if it will work with mine because most posts are like 2010, but I'll report back. Mine is SiriusXM. I will get the all access for a couple weeks, make sure it all works, unplug power and antenna, cancel saying it broke, wait ~5-6 months to be safe, and hopefully remember to report back here.
My only concern is that by now they broadcast a max length with activation, and the devices handle their own deactivation as well.
I have a 3 month all access to sirius xm that came qith my new vehicle. I like it but the monthly subscription is a killer. I only ever laiten to radio when Im in my car, which is only about 30 minutes a day. I also want to keep the subscription but they charge you arm and leg. Is the signal specific to the antenna. Can I change the antenna and just use normal radio sstations for a few months and reconnect the antenna after maybe 3 months? Has anyone tried this?
mchaos said:
This is pure silliness. You can get Free sirius radio on an actual sirius radio pretty easy if you are patient. Here is how to do it.
First some background.
The way the sirius, and xm for that matter work is, a signal is sent from the satellites telling it to activate, and what channels it can have. There is no way for the radio to communicate to the satellites, or to sirius or xm at all. The providers have to send a signal which turns if off after deactivation. If the radio never gets this signal, it will not deactivate.
Now, how long will they keep sending the deactivate signal. I'm not sure. Some say 3 months. but there is no way to actually know for sure without talking to them. It takes months. I also have a trick that will make sure you will get this to work.
Get sirius, and pay for service. You have to be out of trial. Or if you have sirius already...
Turn off the radio, disconnect the antenna.
Do not trun it on or connect antenna at ALL!
Call sirius and tell them your radio Broke. This is improtant, If the radio is broke, why keep sending a signal to it?
You will either have to purchase a new radio, or talk them into a free one. Most cases you will get a discount if you tell them you will cancel your subscription.
Once the new radio comes, Put it in your car, and activate it.
Take the old radio, keep it in the base and keep power to it, so it does not loose memory. The memory will keep for some time, but it will die at some point requiring reactivation.
No listen to your sirius, and keep paying for a bit.
wait 6 months, a year is safer.
Hook your disconnected radio back up to antenna and turn it on.
HOLY SMOKES ITS STILL ACTIVATED!!!!
Yes, this works. If you don't believe me, I don't care. Will just rock out for free and you wont.
How did I find this out? I had a radio where the antenna broke while active. I called up sirius and told them my radio didn't work any more and I wanted to cancel because I was not gonna spend any money on a new radio. They sold me one for $15 and credited me a few months, which took care of the cost of the radio and then some. I didn't think anything of this. Had that radio sitting on the shelf for a long time. Almost 2 years. Yes the memory held, but I wouldn't take a chance doing it a second time. About 6 months ago I put the radio in a base to see if it sill worked and to my surprise it was still activated. I did the math and figured how it worked. Still going free.
Do I feel bad about this? NO. Why? Because I still pay for sirius. I have 2 other vehicles I pay for. I use the free on in the house. I used to just take the receiver in every day because I have a base hooked to my stereo.
I can only listen to one at a time. So if I switch from one to the other, whats the difference. Anyway, whatever.:silly:
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This trick works ?
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This trick works ?
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Works like a charm. Disconnected old radios and deactivated them, a long time later, plugged them in, and they both worked.
wonder about the "never turn it off" theory?
First, I'm glad to see all these confirmations. I've been following threads like this for a while and hope it works, because I may need it soon. I'm on a fixed income now and can't afford the monthly charge, but like some of you i discovered that if you call and persist in requesting cancellation, they do offer some reasonable and affordable packages, around $20 for 5 or 6 months depending on whether you want sports packages or something. Especially if you've been a customer for a while. But last time I did this was around April of this year (2016) and they warned me that all their rates are going up around October, which is right around the time my 6 months expire. So if they have no more good final offers, I'll have to try turning the radio off for several months and cancelling.
I have a question though. I had also heard that these radios only "listen" for the authorization signals when they first power up. I guess that's possible, but I've never seen a confirmation. If its true, it wouldn't be a big deal for me to hook up my home base unit to an UPS, and leave it on all the time, or even wire it into an 'always on" power source in the car (doubt it would run the battery down). But I've never seen this theory confirmed. Any thoughts?
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First, I'm glad to see all these confirmations. I've been following threads like this for a while and hope it works, because I may need it soon. I'm on a fixed income now and can't afford the monthly charge, but like some of you i discovered that if you call and persist in requesting cancellation, they do offer some reasonable and affordable packages, around $20 for 5 or 6 months depending on whether you want sports packages or something. Especially if you've been a customer for a while. But last time I did this was around April of this year (2016) and they warned me that all their rates are going up around October, which is right around the time my 6 months expire. So if they have no more good final offers, I'll have to try turning the radio off for several months and cancelling.
I have a question though. I had also heard that these radios only "listen" for the authorization signals when they first power up. I guess that's possible, but I've never seen a confirmation. If its true, it wouldn't be a big deal for me to hook up my home base unit to an UPS, and leave it on all the time, or even wire it into an 'always on" power source in the car (doubt it would run the battery down). But I've never seen this theory confirmed. Any thoughts?
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I doubt it works reliably long term, I had a receiver last a few months after being disconnected (it was my summer car off the road, so it was a combination of events).
But sirius runs free trials a few times during the year where they activate ALL deactivated receivers as bait for old customers and off trial new vehicles. A week after the trial is over they shut down the entire list of inactive receivers (including your disconnected esn). So you would have to know when these trials occur because once they end your esn will be on the black list to get shut down.
The only theory that should work is to go after the onboard memory chip within the receiver, basically prevent it from erasing its channel lineup. A guy mentioned it on a different forum but no one has been able to confirm which pins on the sdrom chip needs to be grounded to prevent channel list erasing (its receiver specific). In principle this method would work flawlessly and the only downside would be being stuck with the same channels even if siriusxm updates their channel line up, you would still get the old channel lists but at least they would work. Each esn has an encryption key that gets renewed every so often and if that does not match up, it will once again fail to receive channels so its a shot in the dark but may be neat to look into as a mod hobby.
Personally I wouldnt bother with the disconnect trick, hunt for trials and enjoy the discounted rates, then ask them for another 6 months, or disconnect it for a while and try again for a trial. But they have the system pretty well figured out, after all its their business to ensure non paying radios are cut off. The worst part of it is having to pay for multiple vehicles, I can only drive one car at a time yet each one needs a separate unit, kind of silly on their part not to have a reduced rate for a 2nd/3rd receiver on the same account.
Maybe some experts can chime on how a 54 pin synchronous DRAM chip works.
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I doubt it works reliably long term, I had a receiver last a few months after being disconnected (it was my summer car off the road, so it was a combination of events).
But sirius runs free trials a few times during the year where they activate ALL deactivated receivers as bait for old customers and off trial new vehicles. A week after the trial is over they shut down the entire list of inactive receivers (including your disconnected esn). So you would have to know when these trials occur because once they end your esn will be on the black list to get shut down.
The only theory that should work is to go after the onboard memory chip within the receiver, basically prevent it from erasing its channel lineup. A guy mentioned it on a different forum but no one has been able to confirm which pins on the sdrom chip needs to be grounded to prevent channel list erasing (its receiver specific). In principle this method would work flawlessly and the only downside would be being stuck with the same channels even if siriusxm updates their channel line up, you would still get the old channel lists but at least they would work. Each esn has an encryption key that gets renewed every so often and if that does not match up, it will once again fail to receive channels so its a shot in the dark but may be neat to look into as a mod hobby.
Personally I wouldnt bother with the disconnect trick, hunt for trials and enjoy the discounted rates, then ask them for another 6 months, or disconnect it for a while and try again for a trial. But they have the system pretty well figured out, after all its their business to ensure non paying radios are cut off. The worst part of it is having to pay for multiple vehicles, I can only drive one car at a time yet each one needs a separate unit, kind of silly on their part not to have a reduced rate for a 2nd/3rd receiver on the same account.
Maybe some experts can chime on how a 54 pin synchronous DRAM chip works.
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Hmmm... everything you're saying makes sense, but so many have verified that they had continuous use after leaving the radio disconnected for a good while, I can't help wondering if your theory is missing something. Interesting idea about the memory though. I'm pretty proficient in electronics, and it sounds like an interesting "rainy day" project. I'd imagine though that a unless an XM-Radio receiver is a standard module, distributed only by Serius and incorporated into everything from ONYX dash mount radios to all inclusive GPS and Radio systems supplied by auto manufactures, every implementation will be different. In fact, based on a lot of system on chip (SOIC) packages I've dealt with, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of radios don't even have a separate memory chip. Lots of these ICs have Ram and flash storage sufficient for a lot of programming tasks built right into the same chip with the CPU, so you couldn't get to it. Besides, if anything authorization parameters would be stored in a FLASH rather than DRAM memory, or they would all be lost when power is dropped.
I do agree... and I have in fact had little trouble requesting a more affordable package from Sirius, at least so far. But if they ever stop offering it, I might as well be equipped to give my best shot to finding a way around it. Its true, as you say, that they have to try to prevent freeloaders to make money. But like everything else, there is an 80/20 rule in place. In this case it means that 80% of the freeloaders can be eliminated with 20% of the work, but blocking that last 20% will require 80% more effort on their part. for most companies, the payoff for stopping that minority is not worth the effort. In fact, their offer of reduced fees is probably a major reason you don't see much a black market for permanently "enabled" radios.
Just tried this and it works, couldn't believe it. Unsubscribed about 3 months ago and it fully updated all of my channels upon power on, plus the trial is only so many channels and with the trial it will flash there subscription number on the screen.
New radios do not do this. Modern XM radios need a reactivation signal once in a while. MY older Sirius radios are still active and running, but the 2 years old XM radio that was activated but not on when the kill signal was sent...... 2 years later I powered it up and it went to update the channel list and popped up "No activation" after it was playing howard stern for 3 minutes. I was expecting them to fix this hole and it looks like the more modern radios do.
I just wanted to make a thread to see if anyone else was experiencing an annoyance I've been dealing with for the past few days. I don't know if it's due to a new firmware version on the Chromecast, or the recent update to the Play Music app, but casting music hasn't been such an intuitive experience for me recently. As a relevant note, both my Chromecasts are running the latest Eureka-ROM.
As long as I've had the Chromecast, casting music from Play Music has been fluent and the connection between the Chromecast and my HTC One was hard to break, even as I switched between apps and let my phone go to sleep. Recently, this hasn't been the case. If I am listening to an album on the Chromecast while tethered to my phone, I may pause it for a number of reasons and step away, then come back and expect to resume it. When I pause the song, then walk away, my phone will obviously go to sleep (since my screen timeout is 1 minute). As of the last few days, when I return to my phone after such a break, I look at my TV and find my Chromecast back at the homescreen. I then look at my phone and the Play Music app thinks it is still connected and the song is paused. When trying to press play a dialog pops up and says something along the lines of "The song cannot be played at this time." The only way to resume playback is to click "Disconnect" in the app, then reconnect and it goes back to normal once I restart the song.
So anyway, I suppose this may be a Eureka-ROM thing, but I don't see the reasoning behind that line of thinking. Has anyone else been experiencing this or any other change of behavior in Play Music?
Just to make sure, double-check your Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep setting.
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Just to make sure, double-check your Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep setting.
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I could see that helping to keep control but if GPlay is working correctly he shouldn't have to be connected to the CCast with his device at all...
Does GPlay Music work differently than everything else does?
Asphyx said:
I could see that helping to keep control but if GPlay is working correctly he shouldn't have to be connected to the CCast with his device at all...
Does GPlay Music work differently than everything else does?
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Many of the playlist-enabled apps have some level of "ping back" to manage the playlist functionality if it's not handled server-side.
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Many of the playlist-enabled apps have some level of "ping back" to manage the playlist functionality if it's not handled server-side.
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Ahhh OK that does make some sense since no one seems able to do a proper playlist on the CCast that I have found...
Not the way it should work but I guess thats the workaround.
Google really should address this somehow...
Asphyx said:
Ahhh OK that does make some sense since no one seems able to do a proper playlist on the CCast that I have found...
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The alternative would be to maintain a queue at the server's end, like how YouTube does TV Queue. Problem is, when interfacing with locally-hosted media it raises some privacy issues as the location leaves your network. It also would incur Internet traffic for those on limited/paid connections, albeit tiny, it'll still add up.
And of course not every app has a login/server attached to it. Perhaps something could be rigged with a cloud-hosted playlist file or something via Google Drive or another location that Chromecast can directly access.
bhiga said:
The alternative would be to maintain a queue at the server's end, like how YouTube does TV Queue. Problem is, when interfacing with locally-hosted media it raises some privacy issues as the location leaves your network. It also would incur Internet traffic for those on limited/paid connections, albeit tiny, it'll still add up.
And of course not every app has a login/server attached to it. Perhaps something could be rigged with a cloud-hosted playlist file or something via Google Drive or another location that Chromecast can directly access.
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Or you could send the app a playlist of links to play one after the other...
Sort of the way the old ASF files used to work.
Asphyx said:
Or you could send the app a playlist of links to play one after the other...
Sort of the way the old ASF files used to work.
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I think some of the apps have moved to that buffered playlist model, though it still requires some callback and housekeeping in case the controller changes the playlist, etc.
bhiga said:
I think some of the apps have moved to that buffered playlist model, though it still requires some callback and housekeeping in case the controller changes the playlist, etc.
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I suppose...But they could allow changes via the control channel if they fleshed that channel out....
It definitely is one of the things Google has dropped the ball on in their design.
Thanks for the responses guys! Yeah, my Wi-Fi sleep policy is set to "Always", so that's not the issue. It's weird, my CCs have also not been showing up at all until a reboot sometimes. Something in the new GMusic or new CC firmware is not working as well as it used to.
For the sake of being thorough, give your router a reboot if you haven't already.
Also, do a ping test on your network to ensure it's not a faulty router/switch. I recently had to replace a switch (under lifetime warranty, luckily) because it had silently gone bad. It was still passing some traffic - enough for me not to notice immediately, but then my server lost its Gigabit connection (would only connect at 100 Mbps) and that got me investigating more.
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For the sake of being thorough, give your router a reboot if you haven't already.
Also, do a ping test on your network to ensure it's not a faulty router/switch. I recently had to replace a switch (under lifetime warranty, luckily) because it had silently gone bad. It was still passing some traffic - enough for me not to notice immediately, but then my server lost its Gigabit connection (would only connect at 100 Mbps) and that got me investigating more.
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That probably has a lot to do with it, now that you mention it. My AP is a crappy Linksys and I experience random connection drops occasionally. I've been meaning to replace it with something better for a while. I just power cycled it and I am casting fine now. I also paused a song and gave it a few minutes without touching my phone and it resumed alright. Then ten seconds later the song started back from the beginning. Since this isn't a known problem it probably is dropped packets from my AP or something similar.
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That probably has a lot to do with it, now that you mention it. My AP is a crappy Linksys and I experience random connection drops occasionally. I've been meaning to replace it with something better for a while. I just power cycled it and I am casting fine now. I also paused a song and gave it a few minutes without touching my phone and it resumed alright. Then ten seconds later the song started back from the beginning. Since this isn't a known problem it probably is dropped packets from my AP or something similar.
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If your AP is dropping out that can cause a number of problems. Is it one of the older WRT54G models? I used to run a bunch of those but there's a logging bug (even with logging turned off) that causes the router to go haywire. The third-party firmwares fixed it by flushing the logs via a cron job or firewall rule, I believe. I ended up with a pile of them after I moved to Pogoplugs for my VPN endpoints/servers.
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If your AP is dropping out that can cause a number of problems. Is it one of the older WRT54G models? I used to run a bunch of those but there's a logging bug (even with logging turned off) that causes the router to go haywire. The third-party firmwares fixed it by flushing the logs via a cron job or firewall rule, I believe. I ended up with a pile of them after I moved to Pogoplugs for my VPN endpoints/servers.
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That's interesting, I never knew that. I did actually used to have a WRT54G, but have since upgraded to a EA2700. I was playing around with the settings and I switched it over to "bridge mode" which I think fixed the issue. I use a router provided by Comcast so the Linksys was supposed to be acting strictly as an AP but it wasn't. Any casting I've done since has been working well.
So guys, I've just bought a nexus 6 last week, and I'm experiencing some strange issues with the WiFi.
Loading content is really slow, things like loading app list on google play, new videos from my subscriptions on YouTube or even a search on google using chrome can take minutes (not exaggerating here, on stopwatch to load the information and pictures of an app on play store the phone took more than 2 minutes).
And some notifications they don't come right away, (new emails, WhatsApp,etc...)
Although the internet where I live now is not the best and the modem/router is a single channel fritzbox, it's fast enough for a simple WhatsApp message to come through.
What I ruled out is:
Provider blocking ports used by google services < contacted the support and no ports are blocked, and things work fine with my mate 7 running kit Kat
Provider slowing down access to google < nope, it's illegal here and again my mate 7 works fine
Interference by other WiFi networks < I'm in a WiFi crowded place now, but my router is the only one on channel 13, tried other channels and no luck either, and again all other WiFi devices work fine here.
My nexus 9 shows the same symptom but not always.. So I assume it's a lollipop thing... Someome has some tips of things that I should try? Thanks a lot
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So guys, I've just bought a nexus 6 last week, and I'm experiencing some strange issues with the WiFi.
Loading content is really slow, things like loading app list on google play, new videos from my subscriptions on YouTube or even a search on google using chrome can take minutes (not exaggerating here, on stopwatch to load the information and pictures of an app on play store the phone took more than 2 minutes).
And some notifications they don't come right away, (new emails, WhatsApp,etc...)
Although the internet where I live now is not the best and the modem/router is a single channel fritzbox, it's fast enough for a simple WhatsApp message to come through.
What I ruled out is:
Provider blocking ports used by google services < contacted the support and no ports are blocked, and things work fine with my mate 7 running kit Kat
Provider slowing down access to google < nope, it's illegal here and again my mate 7 works fine
Interference by other WiFi networks < I'm in a WiFi crowded place now, but my router is the only one on channel 13, tried other channels and no luck either, and again all other WiFi devices work fine here.
My nexus 9 shows the same symptom but not always.. So I assume it's a lollipop thing... Someome has some tips of things that I should try? Thanks a lot
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Have you run a speedtest by chance?
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Have you run a speedtest by chance?
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Yes, and some times it never finishes it when trying the upload test, download speed is okay with 9Mbps but upload test stays in 0... Ping is not consistent between 23ms up to 83...
Will post a screenshot with a new test as soon as my PC is finished downloading updates .
Luinwethion said:
Yes, and some times it never finishes it when trying the upload test, download speed is okay with 9Mbps but upload test stays in 0... Ping is not consistent between 23ms up to 83...
Will post a screenshot with a new test as soon as my PC is finished downloading updates .
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Could you try running a speedtest on the nexus 6 and the. On the mate 7? This will help narrow things down a bit.
I'd say it's most likely a router issue. On my 100 Mbit/s broadband I just clocked 111 Mbit/s over Wi-Fi. In other words, the N6 is more than capable...