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from hard spl to stock rom

i have a tmobile wing and have a hard spl on it how do i go stock again??????

unpapi_4u said:
i have a tmobile wing and have a hard spl on it how do i go stock again??????
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Back to the stock SPL? The only thing I can think off and it MAY NOT WORK OR BRICK YOUR DEVICE because I haven't tested it is using USPL to flash the stock RUU and hopefully that will overwrite the SPL.

From my understanding, the stock Tmo Wing RUU does have SPL and will over write it back to stock.

duprade said:
From my understanding, the stock Tmo Wing RUU does have SPL and will over write it back to stock.
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Except that the HardSPL is coded not to let another SPL overwrite it. Using USPL should overwrite this lock.

duprade said:
From my understanding, the stock Tmo Wing RUU does have SPL and will over write it back to stock.
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can't you strip the rom of the spl like on the wizard roms?

systematic said:
can't you strip the rom of the spl like on the wizard roms?
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Yes. That will let you use any ROM, but if he wanted to go back to the stock SPL for warranty reasons, that would be the way to go, I would hope.

any one have USPL?

unpapi_4u said:
any one have USPL?
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go to the open touch thread, you can find it in the first post there.

its not there.......anyone have a direct link?

unpapi_4u said:
its not there.......anyone have a direct link?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351966

i tried installing it but in step three the ruu dose work period.......any other way...or shuold i give up?

unpapi_4u said:
i tried installing it but in step three the ruu dose work period.......any other way...or shuold i give up?
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I'm sorry. Please restate your post. I didn't quite understand it.

i found a eaiser way and u dont need a uspl all u need to do is get the stock ruu and run it. your phone is going to restart...simply put it back into bootloader mode without taking off the usb and your done!!!!!

unpapi_4u said:
i found a eaiser way and u dont need a uspl all u need to do is get the stock ruu and run it. your phone is going to restart...simply put it back into bootloader mode without taking off the usb and your done!!!!!
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This will not overwrite HardSPL.

hey it just worked for me maybe some poeple should test it out 2

unpapi_4u said:
hey it just worked for me maybe some poeple should test it out 2
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I don't understand. You HAD the HARDSpl installed in your phone? You ran the stock RUU and it automatically wrote the HardSPL even though the HardSPL was purposely coded not to allow that?

SO you say when installing a official RUU WITH SPL.nbh - the HArd-SPL will be overwritten??
Please clarify your devicesttings.

i tried it again and i missed a step (my bad)
here are the steps that worked for me......
step 1 :run the uspl (in the botton link of these steps) but in step 3 of the uspl program the ruu isnt going to work..
step 2 : put ur phone in bootloader run the stock ruu and at 1% the phone is going to restart and get out of bootloader..
step 3:simply put it back into bootloader (without disconnecting it to your computer) and let the stock ruu run...after go thru the steps...the align the screen put a pasword ect.. let it update the windows (if u dont want it to update then just soft reset the phone before it starts) and then your done.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351966

just thot i'd co-sign for unpapi_4u
verified: wing can go from hard-spl to stock spl via uspl
1. download uspl aka flash center and wing factory ruu
2. copy RUU_signed.nbh and SPL.nbh from wing factory ruu to flash center
3. run it
completed successfuly with no intervention, didnt have to put in boot loader
after flashing i checked (soft reset while holding camera button)
spl was 4.10.0000

Bootloader--Stuck
Hi,
After trying the above, I now get the bootloader screen... showing IPL 4.17.0001 and SPL 4.10.0000.. Try flashing it with
Stock--RUU_Herald_DOPODASIA_WWE_1.7.707.3_02.69.90_Ship_R.exe [Error 226 Flash Write] &
HTC_P4350_WWE_4.17.405.2_4.1.13.44_02.94.90_Ship.exe [Invalid Vendor ID] & RUU_Herald_HTC_WWE_5.4.405.1_4.1.13.34_02.79.90_Ship.exe [Invalid Vendor ID].
I also tried alot of the cooked rom v4.0/V4.4/OpenTouch 2.4/
HERALD.ASERG.23F.WM6.RUS.PS6.rar but also get error message as file corrupt [#270]
I had the hardSPL installed before this..Trying to got back to stock rom because I am selling the phone. Do you guys have any suggestion?
Which ROM can I use to make it work.
My phone is the Dopod C800
Thanks in advance..
Eddie

Question about updating radio and SPL

Right now I am running Cyanogen 3.6.5 with the radio and SPL that have not been updated for a while (they are not the latest ones for sure).
Anyway in case I want to try out a Hero rom I want to update the radio and SPL, can I just update those with my current rom without having to reflash the rom?

I haven't touched my SPL, but I can tell you the radio is easy. Same as any flash - rename to update.zip and drop it on the sdcard. Reboot to recovery and flash. ROM will be fine.
Go to Settings > About phone
Check the Baseband version -- If it ends with .26I you have the latest.
I do know, when flashing the "DangerSPL" for Hero builds, you need to boot into fastboot mode (Camera+Power) and look for the text "PVT" in the first line on the rainbow screen. If you don't see PVT, you have the revision that bricks when flashed to DangerSPL

gecko666 said:
Right now I am running Cyanogen 3.6.5 with the radio and SPL that have not been updated for a while (they are not the latest ones for sure).
Anyway in case I want to try out a Hero rom I want to update the radio and SPL, can I just update those with my current rom without having to reflash the rom?
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When you flash the new SPL you will have to reflash your rom because the SPL will overwrite your rom.

supremeteam256 said:
When you flash the new SPL you will have to reflash your rom because the SPL will overwrite your rom.
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Ok I kinda understand that part but if after flashing the radio and SPL I flash the same rom (Cyanogen 3.6.5) again without wiping will all my settings and apps remain as they were before the update?

gecko666 said:
Ok I kinda understand that part but if after flashing the radio and SPL I flash the same rom (Cyanogen 3.6.5) again without wiping will all my settings and apps remain as they were before the update?
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Use the method in post #3 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517593 it worked perfectly for me and yes your settings and apps remain the same.

One last question before I do this. I went into settings as well as checked at the fastboot screen and seems like I have the latest radio already and from what I read on this topic I should NOT reflash it right? About the SPL though how can I check what version I have? And if I already have the latest one and flash it again will I end up with a brick? Thanks everyone for your help.

gecko666 said:
One last question before I do this. I went into settings as well as checked at the fastboot screen and seems like I have the latest radio already and from what I read on this topic I should NOT reflash it right? About the SPL though how can I check what version I have? And if I already have the latest one and flash it again will I end up with a brick? Thanks everyone for your help.
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Don't flash Radio again if you have the latest. (2.22.19.26I) Power off your phone then hold the Camera button down and press the On button (red button) you should see a white screen with 3 lil' Androids on skateboards, up top it should say DREAM PVT (32B ENG S-OFF) <---might be different but second lines shows your SPL, for example mine is HBOOT-1.33.2005 (DREA10000) and if you have the latest SPL then don't flash it again your good to go. One more thing MAKE SURE IT SAYS (PVT) AND MAKE SURE YOU FLASH RADIO BEFORE FLASHING SPL IF BOTH UPDATES ARE NEEDED! Can't stress this enough because if you do this wrong you'll definitely get a Brick.

Cool thanks. I do have PVT and the latest radio, guess it's just the SPL. Thanks again for your help.

SPL ??

how do you find out what spl you have ?
can someone breifly explain to me what SPL is
and i right in thinking SPL is what can make a brick ?

hold camera and power to boot in to the SPL (when the phone is off) and it will tell you. A rainbow screen means it's stock.
The SPLs other than stock allow you to use fastboot to flash things like splash images and restore nandroid backups. Haykuro's SPL (aka "Danger SPL") allows you to run HTC based ROMs like Hero and Rogers. Make sure you have the cupcake/1.5 radio (which you should already have) before flashing, otherwise it will brick.

Downgrade to Hard SPL from Danger SPL??
AdrianK said:
hold camera and power to boot in to the SPL (when the phone is off) and it will tell you. A rainbow screen means it's stock.
The SPLs other than stock allow you to use fastboot to flash things like splash images and restore nandroid backups. Haykuro's SPL (aka "Danger SPL") allows you to run HTC based ROMs like Hero and Rogers. Make sure you have the cupcake/1.5 radio (which you should already have) before flashing, otherwise it will brick.
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When I rooted my phone I installed Haykuro's danger spl with the latest radio. I didn't know it can potentially brick your phone (hence the danger part lol). I'm running cyanogen 4.0.1 and it's working just fine so far but I had 3 questions
1) Is Hykuro's Danger SPL only risky during the installation process or can it still possibly brick your phone after a successful installation (in other words, elaborate on the "danger" part please)
2) Can I downgrade to Hard SPL after installing the Danger SPL
3) How would I downgrade to Hard SPL?
Thanks guys!!!

If you are using Haykuro's spl there is no need to downgrade, it will allow you to run anything the hard spl will and more. The only "danger" with haykuros spl is when you flash it, if you successfully flashed it then you have nothing to worry about.

Rodey is correct, that H's SPL does everything hardSPL does (fastboot ect) and sloows you to run HTC Based ROMs. I don't know why you would want to downgrade but if you do it should be as simple as flashing the hardSPL update.zip. Get a secind opinion on that though if you want to try it, I'm no hardSPL expert.
You will only brick your phone with haykuro's SPL if you dont have a PVT board (camer+power to boot in to SPL, it will tell you) and if you dont have to 1.5 radio. To check either in the SPL or Settings > about phone check the baseband is version 2.22.19.26 (if you go to about phone there will be some crap before the number, ignore it).
IMO H's SPL is just handy to have. As long as you have the new radio and a PVT board nothing *touch wood* should go wrong.
One more thing, when flashing the SPL, don't play hot potato with your phone ;-)

rondey- said:
If you are using Haykuro's spl there is no need to downgrade, it will allow you to run anything the hard spl will and more. The only "danger" with haykuros spl is when you flash it, if you successfully flashed it then you have nothing to worry about.
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AdrianK said:
Rodey is correct, that H's SPL does everything hardSPL does (fastboot ect) and sloows you to run HTC Based ROMs. I don't know why you would want to downgrade but if you do it should be as simple as flashing the hardSPL update.zip. Get a secind opinion on that though if you want to try it, I'm no hardSPL expert.
You will only brick your phone with haykuro's SPL if you dont have a PVT board (camer+power to boot in to SPL, it will tell you) and if you dont have to 1.5 radio. To check either in the SPL or Settings > about phone check the baseband is version 2.22.19.26 (if you go to about phone there will be some crap before the number, ignore it).
IMO H's SPL is just handy to have. As long as you have the new radio and a PVT board nothing *touch wood* should go wrong.
One more thing, when flashing the SPL, don't play hot potato with your phone ;-)
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Thank you guys! In that case I'll just keep H's SPL seeing that I already installed it successfully without bricking my phone (yay)
Really appreciate both of your time!

You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!

nephron said:
You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!
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Unless you are Unrooting and flash the original spl. I've done this many times so I know it works.

Does SPL: 1.33.2005 help the regular ROMS run better (Cyanogen's)?
I use dxTop, seems to run out of memory quickly.

nephron said:
You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!
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Thanks for the warning!

i've installed CM 4.0.1 and Recovery 1.4 (wit Recovery Flasher), but without Hard SPL and OTA Radio, after that installed Dark Hero Theme and all works ok.
can some1 tell me do i need reinstall everthyng and install hard spl and ota radio, and how can i do that?
thx

sasa3791 said:
i've installed CM 4.0.1 and Recovery 1.4 (wit Recovery Flasher), but without Hard SPL and OTA Radio, after that installed Dark Hero Theme and all works ok.
can some1 tell me do i need reinstall everthyng and install hard spl and ota radio, and how can i do that?
thx
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If you didn't downgrade to RC29/7 then you should have the 1.5 radio. Check by going to Settings > About Phone and baseband version. It should be 2.22.19.26I.
I think you can just flash HardSPL as update.zip as you are, but I' not completely sure...

nephron said:
You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!
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I swear I've heard people say they have, but dowgrading the radio after installing Danger SPL did cause bricks...
I'll go check
You WILL brick your phone if you attempt to downgrade your radio after flashing the new SPL or if you do not have the latest radio installed before flashing the new SPL
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Hmm can't find anyone that said they did :-(

FYI
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@Adrian K and nephron
When I unrooted my spare G1, I got it completely back to stock (circa October original shipment stock)
I downgraded my SPL successfully from the danger SPL all the way back to the original SPL. Also when I downgraded back DREAIMG.nbh, I confirmed at the time that the radio downgraded with it. My original post was on the unlockr.com when I was trying to help David of unlockr.com with some tutorials.
My original quote from unlockr
BTW: I have confirmed via the bootloader that the radio DOWNGRADES back to stock by applying the DREAIMG.nbh update FYI
From the bootloader I am now at
DREA100 PVT 32B
HBOOT-0.95.0000
CPLD-4
RADIO-1.22.12.29
Sep 2 2008
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nephron said:
You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!
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I think it's downgrading the Radio, while on Danger SPL that will brick your phone b.

I have also gone from Hard to Danger back to Hard again with no issues.

if i use the 1click root method and then install cyanogens 4.0.1... do i actually need to do the hardspl and the radio or is that all taken care of? that's the only thing that's confusing me a little bit...

polarbearmc said:
if i use the 1click root method and then install cyanogens 4.0.1... do i actually need to do the hardspl and the radio or is that all taken care of? that's the only thing that's confusing me a little bit...
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If you are talking about the one click method that is know on the market as recovery flasher, that only takes care of granting root access and flashing cyanogen's recovery image. The radio and spl upgrades are on you.
Try here for more explanation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550050

yea that's what i'm talking about... now don't get me wrong, i believe you guys here on xda first and foremost... but theres a video tutorial on android and me, and it doesn't show them installing the radio and spl between using the recovery flasher and then installing cyanogens 4.0.1... are they not doing it right in the video or are the radio and spl optional? all the guides on here seem to say you do have to flash them but the video clearly shows them not stopping to do it. so maybe their video just sucks haha. but any idea on that?
thanks so much

I have 1 click rooted and installed Cyanogen 4.01, I am on CRC1, my understanding was as I was already on 1.5 Cupcake, my current SPL and Radio were current.
I read somewhere that the 1 click method is only temporary root. But if someone could elaborate on this it would be very helpful. Also what is this hard spl ?

un root a root ?

is there anyway at all that you can unroot a rooted phone without knowing.
if you can, what would you have to do to do it ?

binkatonka said:
is there anyway at all that you can unroot a rooted phone without knowing.
if you can, what would you have to do to do it ?
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Only if you don't understand how your phone works.

binkatonka said:
is there anyway at all that you can unroot a rooted phone without knowing.
if you can, what would you have to do to do it ?
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Do you think you've lost root or something? Type 'su' in to the terminal to check.

no no alls fine here
its just something that sprung to mind this eve when installing a theme
what sort of thing would i have to do to do this ?

binkatonka said:
no no alls fine here
its just something that sprung to mind this eve when installing a theme
what sort of thing would i have to do to do this ?
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Flash RC29 dreaimg.img and the original bootloader.

uansari1 said:
Flash RC29 dreaimg.img and the original bootloader.
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RC29 will downgrade the SPL to the original (and radio, too).

AdrianK said:
RC29 will downgrade the SPL to the original (and radio, too).
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I heard that you shouldn't download the radio(due to brick), but is it ok to downgrade the radio using the RC29 img?

shaolinx said:
I heard that you shouldn't download the radio(due to brick), but is it ok to downgrade the radio using the RC29 img?
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Basically, if you have the 1.33.2005 SPL and you don't have the 1.5 radio you'll brick. Be it flashing without the new radio or downgrading the radio after SPL flash. You can flash a different SPL (say, HardSPL) and it will go fine, but you must not downgrade the radio first.
The RC29 img basically wipes your entire nand and reflashes the stock SPL, installs the RC29 firmware and flashes the 1.1 radio image. What it will *not* so is reflash the splash_2 image (it might do flash_1) so if you have a custom splash image then use fastboot to fix that first.
That understanding was put together by reading pages upon pages of the brick thread before flashing 1.33.2005 (as I was scared poop-less of bricking) so hopefully it's all correct.

Is there a way to modify DREAIMG.nbh

This might sound like a dumb question but I ask it because I was previously on the .11 radio and my phone wouldnt upgrade the radio at all no matter how many times i flashed it. I unrooted and rerooted and im at the .29 radio right now thanks to DREAMIMG.nbh but now i cant even upgrade to the .11 .26i or the latest radio through Amon_RA recovery, im still stuck on Stock SPL so i cant fastboot the radio....is there a way to modify DREAIMG.nbh so that it automatically flashes the latest radio?

Nope, its signed and changin it would remove the signiture.

Is it possible to resign it?
If not then is there any other way to force a radio update on the phone while running stock spl? My radio only downgrades and it refuses to upgrade any further..the call quality is just awful now, I really need some help please!

speedysilwady said:
Is it possible to resign it?
If not then is there any other way to force a radio update on the phone while running stock spl? My radio only downgrades and it refuses to upgrade any further..the call quality is just awful now, I really need some help please!
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No, you can't resign it in a way the stock spl would recognise. Why can't you use the engineering spl?

goldenarmZ said:
No, you can't resign it in a way the stock spl would recognise. Why can't you use the engineering spl?
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Doesn't the engineering spl require the latest radio?

speedysilwady said:
Doesn't the engineering spl require the latest radio?
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No, only the deathspl is incompatible with old radios.. engineering will work with anything.

Hmmm so you're saying I should flash hard/engineering spl, then I can fastboot a radio update from my computer?

speedysilwady said:
Hmmm so you're saying I should flash hard/engineering spl, then I can fastboot a radio update from my computer?
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Yep, precisely.

Ah thank you so much! Ill try that when I get home, all I have to worry about now is getting those usb drivers working on my computer. I appreciate the advice! =]