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SPL ??

how do you find out what spl you have ?
can someone breifly explain to me what SPL is
and i right in thinking SPL is what can make a brick ?

hold camera and power to boot in to the SPL (when the phone is off) and it will tell you. A rainbow screen means it's stock.
The SPLs other than stock allow you to use fastboot to flash things like splash images and restore nandroid backups. Haykuro's SPL (aka "Danger SPL") allows you to run HTC based ROMs like Hero and Rogers. Make sure you have the cupcake/1.5 radio (which you should already have) before flashing, otherwise it will brick.

Downgrade to Hard SPL from Danger SPL??
AdrianK said:
hold camera and power to boot in to the SPL (when the phone is off) and it will tell you. A rainbow screen means it's stock.
The SPLs other than stock allow you to use fastboot to flash things like splash images and restore nandroid backups. Haykuro's SPL (aka "Danger SPL") allows you to run HTC based ROMs like Hero and Rogers. Make sure you have the cupcake/1.5 radio (which you should already have) before flashing, otherwise it will brick.
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When I rooted my phone I installed Haykuro's danger spl with the latest radio. I didn't know it can potentially brick your phone (hence the danger part lol). I'm running cyanogen 4.0.1 and it's working just fine so far but I had 3 questions
1) Is Hykuro's Danger SPL only risky during the installation process or can it still possibly brick your phone after a successful installation (in other words, elaborate on the "danger" part please)
2) Can I downgrade to Hard SPL after installing the Danger SPL
3) How would I downgrade to Hard SPL?
Thanks guys!!!

If you are using Haykuro's spl there is no need to downgrade, it will allow you to run anything the hard spl will and more. The only "danger" with haykuros spl is when you flash it, if you successfully flashed it then you have nothing to worry about.

Rodey is correct, that H's SPL does everything hardSPL does (fastboot ect) and sloows you to run HTC Based ROMs. I don't know why you would want to downgrade but if you do it should be as simple as flashing the hardSPL update.zip. Get a secind opinion on that though if you want to try it, I'm no hardSPL expert.
You will only brick your phone with haykuro's SPL if you dont have a PVT board (camer+power to boot in to SPL, it will tell you) and if you dont have to 1.5 radio. To check either in the SPL or Settings > about phone check the baseband is version 2.22.19.26 (if you go to about phone there will be some crap before the number, ignore it).
IMO H's SPL is just handy to have. As long as you have the new radio and a PVT board nothing *touch wood* should go wrong.
One more thing, when flashing the SPL, don't play hot potato with your phone ;-)

rondey- said:
If you are using Haykuro's spl there is no need to downgrade, it will allow you to run anything the hard spl will and more. The only "danger" with haykuros spl is when you flash it, if you successfully flashed it then you have nothing to worry about.
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AdrianK said:
Rodey is correct, that H's SPL does everything hardSPL does (fastboot ect) and sloows you to run HTC Based ROMs. I don't know why you would want to downgrade but if you do it should be as simple as flashing the hardSPL update.zip. Get a secind opinion on that though if you want to try it, I'm no hardSPL expert.
You will only brick your phone with haykuro's SPL if you dont have a PVT board (camer+power to boot in to SPL, it will tell you) and if you dont have to 1.5 radio. To check either in the SPL or Settings > about phone check the baseband is version 2.22.19.26 (if you go to about phone there will be some crap before the number, ignore it).
IMO H's SPL is just handy to have. As long as you have the new radio and a PVT board nothing *touch wood* should go wrong.
One more thing, when flashing the SPL, don't play hot potato with your phone ;-)
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Thank you guys! In that case I'll just keep H's SPL seeing that I already installed it successfully without bricking my phone (yay)
Really appreciate both of your time!

You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!

nephron said:
You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!
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Unless you are Unrooting and flash the original spl. I've done this many times so I know it works.

Does SPL: 1.33.2005 help the regular ROMS run better (Cyanogen's)?
I use dxTop, seems to run out of memory quickly.

nephron said:
You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!
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Thanks for the warning!

i've installed CM 4.0.1 and Recovery 1.4 (wit Recovery Flasher), but without Hard SPL and OTA Radio, after that installed Dark Hero Theme and all works ok.
can some1 tell me do i need reinstall everthyng and install hard spl and ota radio, and how can i do that?
thx

sasa3791 said:
i've installed CM 4.0.1 and Recovery 1.4 (wit Recovery Flasher), but without Hard SPL and OTA Radio, after that installed Dark Hero Theme and all works ok.
can some1 tell me do i need reinstall everthyng and install hard spl and ota radio, and how can i do that?
thx
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If you didn't downgrade to RC29/7 then you should have the 1.5 radio. Check by going to Settings > About Phone and baseband version. It should be 2.22.19.26I.
I think you can just flash HardSPL as update.zip as you are, but I' not completely sure...

nephron said:
You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!
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I swear I've heard people say they have, but dowgrading the radio after installing Danger SPL did cause bricks...
I'll go check
You WILL brick your phone if you attempt to downgrade your radio after flashing the new SPL or if you do not have the latest radio installed before flashing the new SPL
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Hmm can't find anyone that said they did :-(

FYI
FYI
@Adrian K and nephron
When I unrooted my spare G1, I got it completely back to stock (circa October original shipment stock)
I downgraded my SPL successfully from the danger SPL all the way back to the original SPL. Also when I downgraded back DREAIMG.nbh, I confirmed at the time that the radio downgraded with it. My original post was on the unlockr.com when I was trying to help David of unlockr.com with some tutorials.
My original quote from unlockr
BTW: I have confirmed via the bootloader that the radio DOWNGRADES back to stock by applying the DREAIMG.nbh update FYI
From the bootloader I am now at
DREA100 PVT 32B
HBOOT-0.95.0000
CPLD-4
RADIO-1.22.12.29
Sep 2 2008
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nephron said:
You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!
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I think it's downgrading the Radio, while on Danger SPL that will brick your phone b.

I have also gone from Hard to Danger back to Hard again with no issues.

if i use the 1click root method and then install cyanogens 4.0.1... do i actually need to do the hardspl and the radio or is that all taken care of? that's the only thing that's confusing me a little bit...

polarbearmc said:
if i use the 1click root method and then install cyanogens 4.0.1... do i actually need to do the hardspl and the radio or is that all taken care of? that's the only thing that's confusing me a little bit...
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If you are talking about the one click method that is know on the market as recovery flasher, that only takes care of granting root access and flashing cyanogen's recovery image. The radio and spl upgrades are on you.
Try here for more explanation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550050

yea that's what i'm talking about... now don't get me wrong, i believe you guys here on xda first and foremost... but theres a video tutorial on android and me, and it doesn't show them installing the radio and spl between using the recovery flasher and then installing cyanogens 4.0.1... are they not doing it right in the video or are the radio and spl optional? all the guides on here seem to say you do have to flash them but the video clearly shows them not stopping to do it. so maybe their video just sucks haha. but any idea on that?
thanks so much

I have 1 click rooted and installed Cyanogen 4.01, I am on CRC1, my understanding was as I was already on 1.5 Cupcake, my current SPL and Radio were current.
I read somewhere that the 1 click method is only temporary root. But if someone could elaborate on this it would be very helpful. Also what is this hard spl ?

un root a root ?

is there anyway at all that you can unroot a rooted phone without knowing.
if you can, what would you have to do to do it ?

binkatonka said:
is there anyway at all that you can unroot a rooted phone without knowing.
if you can, what would you have to do to do it ?
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Only if you don't understand how your phone works.

binkatonka said:
is there anyway at all that you can unroot a rooted phone without knowing.
if you can, what would you have to do to do it ?
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Do you think you've lost root or something? Type 'su' in to the terminal to check.

no no alls fine here
its just something that sprung to mind this eve when installing a theme
what sort of thing would i have to do to do this ?

binkatonka said:
no no alls fine here
its just something that sprung to mind this eve when installing a theme
what sort of thing would i have to do to do this ?
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Flash RC29 dreaimg.img and the original bootloader.

uansari1 said:
Flash RC29 dreaimg.img and the original bootloader.
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RC29 will downgrade the SPL to the original (and radio, too).

AdrianK said:
RC29 will downgrade the SPL to the original (and radio, too).
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I heard that you shouldn't download the radio(due to brick), but is it ok to downgrade the radio using the RC29 img?

shaolinx said:
I heard that you shouldn't download the radio(due to brick), but is it ok to downgrade the radio using the RC29 img?
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Basically, if you have the 1.33.2005 SPL and you don't have the 1.5 radio you'll brick. Be it flashing without the new radio or downgrading the radio after SPL flash. You can flash a different SPL (say, HardSPL) and it will go fine, but you must not downgrade the radio first.
The RC29 img basically wipes your entire nand and reflashes the stock SPL, installs the RC29 firmware and flashes the 1.1 radio image. What it will *not* so is reflash the splash_2 image (it might do flash_1) so if you have a custom splash image then use fastboot to fix that first.
That understanding was put together by reading pages upon pages of the brick thread before flashing 1.33.2005 (as I was scared poop-less of bricking) so hopefully it's all correct.

questions for updating radio

xda community,
sorry if it dosent belong here but if anything move it or lock it but really need help....
i received a replacement phone from tmobile with the radio 2.22.19.261 and that is the radio update we need...well i bricked 1 phone because i tried doing this and didnt notice that it had already the radio......what im concerned about is if i should skip the update radio step and just install the spl???? please some feedback would be greatly appreciated and once again sorry if it dosent belong here.
plz and thank you

the 2.22.26I is the radio that is needed to flash the 1.33.2005 spl. also make sure phone is a pvt instead of dvt by booting the phone into bootloader (camera and power) and find out on that screen. if you have both of those then the 1.33.2005 *should* (being the keyword) flash without problems.

it is a PVT board so you are suggesting i just flash the spl since the radio already came with the phone?

djcookiedj said:
it is a PVT board so you are suggesting i just flash the spl since the radio already came with the phone?
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if you want to be on the really safe side, then you should flash the radio first

i tried it with another phone i had that was shipped with the same radio and then it got bricked......thats my fear of bricking this phone

djcookiedj said:
i tried it with another phone i had that was shipped with the same radio and then it got bricked......thats my fear of bricking this phone
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if you have any doubts then if i was you, i would flash the radio first just to make sure.

djcookiedj said:
i tried it with another phone i had that was shipped with the same radio and then it got bricked......thats my fear of bricking this phone
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You should flash the Radio haykuro posted. I did just to be safe. I believe i saw one person brick even though he had the 26I radio, but i dont think he knew what he was doing.
if your gonna flash the .2005 spl, you might as well be extra safe and flash the radio. its only a few minutes more

quick update :
i went ahead and prayed that this went well.....since my g1 was pre-shipped with the newest RADIO version in an older g1 that had the newest radio i tried applying the Radio update and it bricked.....so this time i went ahead and (thanxz for the feedback) just flashed the SPL and VOILA !!! now i am testing the hero ROMs and BLUR rom.....thanks guys

djcookiedj said:
quick update :
i went ahead and prayed that this went well.....since my g1 was pre-shipped with the newest RADIO version in an older g1 that had the newest radio i tried applying the Radio update and it bricked.....so this time i went ahead and (thanxz for the feedback) just flashed the SPL and VOILA !!! now i am testing the hero ROMs and BLUR rom.....thanks guys
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your welcome, glad that your phone is still booting and flashing strong

update radio
I wanted to update the radio pls send the link or step by step how to upgrade radio cause i try in the forum and i found a difference methode .... there's nbh, ota,... i didn't understand ... pls make a simple link and how to
thanks

SPL reverting?

Is it possible for an SPL to downgrade without bricking a device? I ask because I recently had to reflash DREAIMG.nbh and my SPL seems to have gone back to 0.95.0000.

Do you mean DREAIMG.nbh?

evilkorn said:
Do you mean DREAIMG.nbh?
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yah, my bad. nbh is what i mean. i'm so smrt

May i ask why though?
Just wondering why you want to go back to stock.

Ace42 said:
May i ask why though?
Just wondering why you want to go back to stock.
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i don't want to go back to stock. i had to reflash dreaimg.nbh because i flash the htc recovery image and accidentally rebooted before i flashed cyanogen, so i lost root. had to redo everything. so now i'm wondering if it's possible that my spl went back too.

grandomegabosses said:
i don't want to go back to stock. i had to reflash dreaimg.nbh because i flash the htc recovery image and accidentally rebooted before i flashed cyanogen, so i lost root. had to redo everything. so now i'm wondering if it's possible that my spl went back too.
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Yeah the image is bundled with a Radio.But you need to downgrade your spl.

grandomegabosses said:
i don't want to go back to stock. i had to reflash dreaimg.nbh because i flash the htc recovery image and accidentally rebooted before i flashed cyanogen, so i lost root. had to redo everything. so now i'm wondering if it's possible that my spl went back too.
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If you would like to check the SPL version you have on your phone currently, power off your phone and power back up by pressing the camera button + the power buttons ... check you SPL version that your phone has on it. I believe you exit after checking by pressing call+menu+end buttons...
peace

robbie725 said:
If you would like to check the SPL version you have on your phone currently, power off your phone and power back up by pressing the camera button + the power buttons ... check you SPL version that your phone has on it. I believe you exit after checking by pressing call+menu+end buttons...
peace
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i've checked the spl. i used to have 1.33.2005, but upon checking last night and this morning, i have 0.95.0000.

Ace42 said:
Yeah the image is bundled with a Radio.But you need to downgrade your spl.
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so dreaimg.nbh downgraded my spl?

grandomegabosses said:
so dreaimg.nbh downgraded my spl?
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yes.................

Make sure you flash the radio after doing the NBh and getting a recovery image.

sooooooo one more question.. would it be possible to upgrade me spl again? i'm at 0.95.0000 again, but i want to make sure it's safe before doing anything.

grandomegabosses said:
sooooooo one more question.. would it be possible to upgrade me spl again? i'm at 0.95.0000 again, but i want to make sure it's safe before doing anything.
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make sure you update your radio first. it will be fine
You also do not have to downgrade your SPL before flashing the DREAIMG.nbh as Ace suggests....

B-man007 said:
make sure you update your radio first. it will be fine
You also do not have to downgrade your SPL before flashing the DREAIMG.nbh as Ace suggests....
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thanks. i just wanted to be sure before i screwed up my phone.

just an update for anybody who wants to know, it worked. :] thanks guys

Changing SPL

Is it safe to "revert" to HardSPL from Danger SPL?
-I use the OpenEclair ROMs, and the newest ones seem to not require Danger SPL anymore...do you think I should change the SPL?

Baalzamon said:
Is it safe to "revert" to HardSPL from Danger SPL?
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yes.. its safe
Baalzamon said:
-I use the OpenEclair ROMs, and the newest ones seem to not require Danger SPL anymore...
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OE 1.2.2 needs Danger SPL, ignore what the changelog says it's wrong
http://code.google.com/p/openeclair... Type Status Priority Owner Component Summary
Baalzamon said:
do you think I should change the SPL?
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nope .. why would you want/need to downgrade it?
you only need to downgrade the SPL if you are going to downgrade the radio
( wrong(old) radio + Danger SPL = Brick )
you are only likely going to need to downgrade the radio to get back to stock

Baalzamon said:
Is it safe to "revert" to HardSPL from Danger SPL?
-I use the OpenEclair ROMs, and the newest ones seem to not require Danger SPL anymore...do you think I should change the SPL?
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There's almost no point in reverting. What's the harm in having the extra space for future necessities?

Firerat said:
yes.. its safe
OE 1.2.2 needs Danger SPL, ignore what the changelog says it's wrong
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Nope. It may be broken, but that is a very minor tweak to fix.
nope .. why would you want/need to downgrade it?
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Protection from accidental bricking...
There is no telling if any FUTURE RADIO will be compatible with the DEATH SPL -- the only thing guaranteed is that future radio images will be compatible with the 0.95.x000 SPLs.
Note: I suggest NOT using the so-called HARDSPL. It really doesn't offer anything over the stock engineering spl 0.95.3000. Why use a hack when not needed?

lbcoder said:
Nope. It may be broken, but that is a very minor tweak to fix.
Protection from accidental bricking...
There is no telling if any FUTURE RADIO will be compatible with the DEATH SPL -- the only thing guaranteed is that future radio images will be compatible with the 0.95.x000 SPLs.
Note: I suggest NOT using the so-called HARDSPL. It really doesn't offer anything over the stock engineering spl 0.95.3000. Why use a hack when not needed?
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Why revert and have to risk another potential brick when he's already using the DangerSPL and successfully installed it without a brick?

lbcoder said:
Nope. It may be broken, but that is a very minor tweak to fix.
Protection from accidental bricking...
There is no telling if any FUTURE RADIO will be compatible with the DEATH SPL -- the only thing guaranteed is that future radio images will be compatible with the 0.95.x000 SPLs.
Note: I suggest NOT using the so-called HARDSPL. It really doesn't offer anything over the stock engineering spl 0.95.3000. Why use a hack when not needed?
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accidental bricking? How do you accidentally flash an old radio with out knowing? The newest radio that was just posted in the dev section is compatible. Basically the reason why the old radio wasnt compatible with the Danger SPL is because the Danger SPL is simply the MT3G SPL just modified to be used on the G1. The MT3G was never compatible with the older radio since it came out after the radio update. Also there are advantages to having the Hard SPL do some research before bashing SPLs.
http://code.google.com/p/android-roms/wiki/SPL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625886

Joe333x said:
accidental bricking? How do you accidentally flash an old radio with out knowing? The newest radio that was just posted in the dev section is compatible. Basically the reason why the old radio wasnt compatible with the Danger SPL is because the Danger SPL is simply the MT3G SPL just modified to be used on the G1. The MT3G was never compatible with the older radio since it came out after the radio update. Also there are advantages to having the Hard SPL do some research before bashing SPLs.
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I have looked into your future.. I see a long, aggressive post from lbcoder detailing EXACTLY why you're WRONG.
He's quite passionate about this spl.

goldenarmZ said:
I have looked into your future.. I see a long, aggressive post from lbcoder detailing EXACTLY why you're WRONG.
He's quite passionate about this spl.
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I am not wrong our opinions just differ. I use to be against the Danger SPL also until I flashed it myself and seen that it was safe if you could follow directions which is why I made a How-To for others.

Joe333x said:
I am not wrong our opinions just differ. I use to be against the Danger SPL also until I flashed it myself and seen that it was safe if you could follow directions which is why I made a How-To for others.
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I'm not saying you are wrong, but I'm pretty sure he will.
Personally, I think the 2005 spl is pointless on a g1, but I flashed it ages ago and see no point reverting. There definitely is an advantage to the hardspl for non-US users though.. Some of the european people in particular need the ability to flash international images to get root in the first place.

goldenarmZ said:
I'm not saying you are wrong, but I'm pretty sure he will.
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lol i will agree with you on that one

goldenarmZ said:
Some of the european people in particular need the ability to flash international images to get root in the first place.
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... and do tell how you can flash the SPL ***BEFORE*** you get root....

lbcoder said:
... and do tell how you can flash the SPL ***BEFORE*** you get root....
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"......"
I'm sure I had a point there, but until I remember what it was, I'll just hang my head and walk away quietly.

goldenarmZ said:
"......"
I'm sure I had a point there, but until I remember what it was, I'll just hang my head and walk away quietly.
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Your point was that the Hard SPL is required to flash images from another region and you are correct.

Joe333x said:
Your point was that the Hard SPL is required to flash images from another region and you are correct.
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Get ready for more action! I sense lbcoder cooking something up...

Joe333x said:
Your point was that the Hard SPL is required to flash images from another region and you are correct.
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..but I can't remember why that was useful. I thought I knew when I typed it but I don't anymore.. I blame this evil beverage in my hand.

grandomegabosses said:
Get ready for more action! I sense lbcoder cooking something up...
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http://code.google.com/p/android-roms/wiki/SPL said:
HardSPL is a modification of the Engineering SPL by cmonex. In addition to the functionality of the Engineering SPL, HardSPL also allows NBH files to be used without matching the CID (carrier ID) check. At the current time the main benefit of this is to allow European G1s flash American NBH files and vice versa.
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http://code.google.com/p/android-roms/wiki/SPL

goldenarmZ said:
..but I can't remember why that was useful. I thought I knew when I typed it but I don't anymore.. I blame this evil beverage in my hand.
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You typed it be lbcoder said that there is no advantage to using the Hard SPL.

Firerat said:
yes.. its safe
OE 1.2.2 needs Danger SPL, ignore what the changelog says it's wrong
http://code.google.com/p/openeclair... Type Status Priority Owner Component Summary
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lbcoder said:
Nope. It may be broken, but that is a very minor tweak to fix.
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OP wants OE 1.2.2 , you need danger to flash, 'bugged' OE 1.2.2 means that danger is needed, OP downgrades, OP can't flash 1.2.2 therefore no point downgrading... No point downgrading fullstop... even if not 'broken' it would still flash over Danger.
tbh OE Devs/beta testers should have at least confirmed danger was not needed by downgrading and flashing.
Firerat said:
nope .. why would you want/need to downgrade it?
you only need to downgrade the SPL if you are going to downgrade the radio
( wrong(old) radio + Danger SPL = Brick )
you are only likely going to need to downgrade the radio to get back to stock
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lbcoder said:
Protection from accidental bricking...
There is no telling if any FUTURE RADIO will be compatible with the DEATH SPL -- the only thing guaranteed is that future radio images will be compatible with the 0.95.x000 SPLs.
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you only need to downgrade the SPL if you are going to downgrade the radio
( wrong radio + Danger SPL = Brick )
you are only likely going to need to downgrade the radio to get back to stock
removed the old, is that better?
lbcoder said:
Note: I suggest NOT using the so-called HARDSPL. It really doesn't offer anything over the stock engineering spl 0.95.3000. Why use a hack when not needed?
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errm, Hardspl lets you flash things you wouldn't normally be able to flash, that is why Hardspl is needed..
your comments were largely pointless, you don't score any points for not full quoting me

Firerat said:
you only need to downgrade the SPL if you are going to downgrade the radio
( wrong radio + Danger SPL = Brick )
you are only likely going to need to downgrade the radio to get back to stock
removed the old, is that better?
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Don't forget that a radio flash can be included in ANY update.zip archive.
That includes the possibility of accidentally flashing a MALICIOUS system image designed to cause bricks.
And as I've said before, there is no guarantee AT ALL regarding what some future radio will be compatible with. Just because HTC has ***LATELY*** been releasing radio images compatible with both SPLs does NOT mean that this trend will continue in the FUTURE. The ONLY guarantee you have is that HTC WILL NOT release RADIO UPGRADES for DREAM that ARE NOT compatible with the STOCK 0.95.x000 SPLs.
errm, Hardspl lets you flash things you wouldn't normally be able to flash, that is why Hardspl is needed..
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No... it doesn't.
It only lets you flash foreign NBH files.
If you have an engineering SPL, there is NO REASON AT ALL to flash NBH files!!!
In fact, if you have an engineering SPL, you SHOULD NEVER flash an NBH file because then you LOSE your ENGINEERING SPL as well as ROOT!!!!
your comments were largely pointless, you don't score any points for not full quoting me
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Did I quote you enough this time?

lbcoder said:
Don't forget that a radio flash can be included in ANY update.zip archive.
That includes the possibility of accidentally flashing a MALICIOUS system image designed to cause bricks.
And as I've said before, there is no guarantee AT ALL regarding what some future radio will be compatible with. Just because HTC has ***LATELY*** been releasing radio images compatible with both SPLs does NOT mean that this trend will continue in the FUTURE. The ONLY guarantee you have is that HTC WILL NOT release RADIO UPGRADES for DREAM that ARE NOT compatible with the STOCK 0.95.x000 SPLs.
No... it doesn't.
It only lets you flash foreign NBH files.
If you have an engineering SPL, there is NO REASON AT ALL to flash NBH files!!!
In fact, if you have an engineering SPL, you SHOULD NEVER flash an NBH file because then you LOSE your ENGINEERING SPL as well as ROOT!!!!
Did I quote you enough this time?
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Where on Earth would you be downloading malicious update.zips from? If you don't trust the source, you probably shouldn't try it. Also, you can open the zip and check for a radio image. And future radio images are not pushed to you anymore because you're on a custom rom. Why would you flash a random radio image you found here without other people trying it first?
Your arguments really do make sense. I'm not trying to say you don't have logical points. All I'm saying is if you use the brain, you probably won't brick your phone.