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I have read lots about the Diamond in the last couple of days with many conflicting views. But it seems like this site is full of tweaks that might actually improve the phone.
Can the users here tell me if they think I should get one and give just one reason why?
Thanks,
Jon
please read before you bother to post
this is asked all the time....
you need to take the time to read and make up your own mind
i am more than happy with my diamond
welcome to the forum
Same here happy as a dog with my Jewel.
I believe all my fellow Forum members are 100% happy of the powerful Jewel they own.
Trust us you wont be disappointed specially after a visit to the kitchen
Im happy with mine coming from a nokia n95, ok the diamond could do with a flash and a better battery.
Other than that its all good....
There are loads of posts about this dotted over the forum, granted they are a bit of a trek to find.
It all depends on what you want to use the phone for. For my needs its great. Plays music, cameras ok, the VGA screen is really really nice and I do actually like TouchFlo 3D.
Good luck with the searching, and hope you find the answers to help you decide.
And I have to say the Diamond is the best phone ive owned, and ive had a lot of mobiles and pdas in the past. Its mainly thanks to this forum for that. So many dedicated people. Thanks xda!
Part of the reason for me leaning towards the Diamond is the existence of this forum. When I found it, I thought to myself, "Wow! Loads of help at hand, regular ROM updates, tweaks, the lot!"
Currently I have an old Sony Ericsson K750i and the joystick barely works now, so it would be a big step up.
Jon12345 said:
Part of the reason for me leaning towards the Diamond is the existence of this forum. When I found it, I thought to myself, "Wow! Loads of help at hand, regular ROM updates, tweaks, the lot!"
Currently I have an old Sony Ericsson K750i and the joystick barely works now, so it would be a big step up.
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Well im sure it would better than the current SE phone. Heres some of the reasons why i love my diamond.
1. So many app / utils / tweaks available and very cheap to buy extra programs for it. (donations to developers are all good to!)
2. Activesyncing my phone to my pc, always been an easy task with Windows Mobile.
3. Being able to control my phone using my PC (MyMobiler - excellent little program)
4. The Small size of the phone, it really is very small! Easy to use one handed
5. Screen Quality - VGA, you wonder how you coped before!
6. Easy to transfer info to and from the phone - Activesync or Removable Drive (USB Flash drive)
7. GPS - Tomtom on your mobile, excellent! Works very well
8. 4GB Storage - Plenty of space for what i need.
There are tons more! Post would be the longest on here if i kept on talking! hehe!
Here's my 2 cents. Got my Diamond yesterday, loved it, it look so wonderful. Just bear in mind that I am coming from a Trinity with a fast ROM.
I started to play around with the phone for awhile and took me back to when Winduhs released that beta testing Vista. It looked nice and pretty but it was a pain to use after you've been using XP for a while.
Regardless of what i just said, i love the Diamond and I might keep it. It makes my Trinity looks like a monster but it lags too much as it is.
If support and constant updates/improvements is what you're looking for, you've found the right phone. This forum is above and beyond any community I've ever seen when it comes to tweaks, ROMs, and any sort of improvement you could possibly make to your device. Just make sure to read all directions and pay attention closely, a lot of these things can turn your beautiful Diamond into a $700 brick.
Mainly because it's a tool which simplifies my work/life...not a mere toy to be shown on saturday evening (any reference is casual )
But in any case those are all personal opinions, I think you should make your own considerations and evalutions of a product before to buy that or another.
Be a subject talking about an object, not viceversa
Got mine last Thursday on Vodafone... it was nice, but a little laggy, then I updated it with a cooked ROM (swiftBL I think it was) and its a little beast now! Best phone ever!
Trying to get TomTom 7 on it at the mo.
For my first WinMo (coming from a Motorola KRZR) its just superb! And with a little READING the instructions, its pretty easy to update the ROM, add apps etc...
Get one and never look back!
Please don't be a fanboy!
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And with a little READING the instructions, its pretty easy to update the ROM, add apps etc...
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Someone who reads the directions and finds it easy to do, without asking 500 times how to flash a ROM?
Edited to maintain my reputation of not being gay. Hah.
Jon12345 said:
I have read lots about the Diamond in the last couple of days with many conflicting views. But it seems like this site is full of tweaks that might actually improve the phone.
Can the users here tell me if they think I should get one and give just one reason why?
Thanks,
Jon
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If you have no problem to spend some extra money in missed calls, in general is a good toy.
THERE IS A UNSOLVED BUG WITH THE PHONE ON SCEEN BUTTONS. Every time when you receive a call and put it out of the pouch you answer or loose the call automatically. This is a bull****.
Just use the Diamond tweak tool thingy and I can see vast improvements already, you guys don't mess around huh? I want my diamond to perform, i have a bad habit of using my phone while driving, which is a bit hard to do on a touchscreen. I think my Diamond is almost there.
I really don't want to flash this puppy, kinda scared of ruin my warranty.
RingTone01 said:
I really don't want to flash this puppy, kinda scared of ruin my warranty.
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Just be cautious in whatever you do, and make sure you don't brick it... Whatever you do, as long as it's done correctly, can be reversed later on. Original SPL, original ROM, 100% warranty okay. But hey, if you're happy with the performance now, leave well enough alone. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Thanks for the heads up, I figured that if everyone is trying to get a diamond ROM why should I do anything, except for tweaking it of course.
I was surprised to see that the ROM I have on my Trinity isn't the same as the real thing. It works, and works well and that is all that matters.
Hello,
I realy dont know if this is the right forum to ask those questions
but I would appriciate if someone will help me
1) I couldnt understand how the contacts works. I realize there is
a special favorites section wich looks amzing. but what about
all the other contacts? Do you go back to the old and ugly WM screen?
and if so, is it finger friendly or you have to use the stylus? and if so,
are there any programs I can install so it will be finger friendly?
same for calendar sms and mails?
2) Is it realy that slow as the critics says??
thank you all and Im sorry for my bad English
My personal experience is great. Here's my thoughts regarding your questions:
1 - Yes, when you click on a contact, it does use the windows mobile contact screen..but I find it completely usable. Very finger friendly.
2 - Slow? Mine isn't slow at all, unless I have a ton of programs open. Whoever says its slow must not have ever used a Windows Mobile phone before. I haven't seen a Touch HD or Pro yet, but I believe this is the best WinMo phone currently. As far as the Diamond vs iphone vs android..they all have strengths and weaknesses.
I love my Diamond, and would recommend it to anyone. Although I would also recommend the touch HD and pro also (for people who either need a bigger device or a keyboard). For me, I wanted the Diamond for it's size, but the HD looks nice!
thank you for your answer
HD is far to big for me, altough it is amazing
Pro is far to thick for me, and i dont need the keyboard.
is there any porgram that makes a better interface to the
calendar and the contacts list? iPhone's interface much better then
the diamond's.
i am sure i have seen a program called iCotact or something like it
i'd suggest u wait for the g1.....it has a larger capacitive touchscreen, digital compass, etc.... and I'm sure someone would port WM on to G1 incase if you are worried about android being short of 3rd party apps.
thank you for your answer
but it is not answering my questions.
im preety locked about the diamond.
i do consider the iPhone insted - but it is to big.
I couldnt find cool games and apps for the diamond like there
are for the iPhone. WM programs are less designed.
okay , how about if you could have an iphone that runs on both WM & MAC ?
check this out
personally i'd suggest(again) you wait for the G1 , the android UI is almost as slick & soft as iphone's.
Try Funcontacts
http://solsie.com/2008/01/funcontacts-20-released/
Had it on my Artemis but don't 'need' it on the Diamond
I'd also recommend that you buy a second battery though as the battery life stinks on this phone. Good phone BUT ....
don't waste your money on an htc product until they stop using qualcomm chips
i would say contacts are really finger friendly, of course you could always just hit send and start typing the name/phone number and winmo will auto search it. keep in mind as well ANYTHING in winmo is customizable so of course you could get iphone like contacts (just google a theme).
battery is crap- but you can get extended batteries (including an official one) or just keep a car charger/spare around . phone itself varies in speed depending on the software, the original release software that the phone came with when it was reviewed by everyone was PAINFULLY slow. later updates (especially the 1.83 WWE roms) are MUCH better, and of course cooked roms might improve battery a bit.
its hard not to love the phone, its one of the best looking out there, REALLY nice feel/form factor and just packed with EVERYTHING. Best Phone thus far In my opinion
personally the way i look at it is
- You buy an iPhone if you like apple and have a mac computer/ you don't know any better/ your going to buy an ipod anyway
- You buy a Blackberry because its linux- it will never die/crash but it doesn't look good and its not meant for media (exception being the Bold)
- You buy windows mobile because its windows, it has its flaws,shortcomings and glitches, but it does ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING and its customizable
Ok, so I had the choice between the iPhone and the X1, and I think the X1 would we better for me as I would be able to flash custom roms on it and fix mos t of the lag. I'm about to order the X1 off of ebay. I live in the US and there at&t doesn't carry the X1 AFAIK (correct me if I'm wrong). Now, I have a bunch of questions regarding ROMs and other things.
Would I have to update my X1 before installing a custom ROM or would it come updated?
On average, how long would the battery last?
I heard it's supposed to have like 6 days standby time.
What are the risks of flashing a custom ROM?
I heard that Hard-SPL-ing it could "brick" your phone. I also heard that even after Hard-SPL, if you flash a custom ROM wrong or one that's messed up you could render your phone useless forever. If this is true, what are the precautions I should take before flashing my ROM (I plan to do it when I first get my phone, as I know it's laggy. I'm also running windows 7 so please tell me if I need to run XP or Vista for it to work)
Is there a way to fix a bricked phone?
What are some really good apps that enhance the experience of the X1? Such as maybe a volume enhancer? (as the sound is very low from what I know)
I already know of some, like Opera Mini, Touchflo 3d (comes with custom ROMs AFAIK) and Sbp mobile shell.
Even after flashing a custom ROM like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524043 , would it still be laggy when changing panels or while loading apps?
Does the case scratch easily? Is it necessary for me to buy a case if I don't want it to be all scratched up?
Do cab files that work on WM 6.1 also work on WM 6.5? Because I saw this: http://xperiancers.com/2009/04/22/how-to-use-your-xperia-x1-a-little-guide-to-windows-mobile/ , and I was wondering if the speed ups mentioned in that post work with WM 6.5?
If you guys think I'm making a bad decision by not buying the iPhone, please let me know what you think
Do you guys know if at&t offers the X1 so I can get a better deal? because I'm going to switch from T-Mobile to at&t very soon. (I live in the US)
Is there a way to make the phone landscape without a sliding the keyboard? Because AFAIK the Xperia lacks an accelerometer.?
I heard you can assign "shortcuts" or something to quickly switch from landscape to portrait. Need more info. on this.
Is it possible to Hard-SPL and flash a custom rom to ANY Xpeira? Like are there any that are "blocked" where you can't Hard-SPL it?
Thanks in advance.
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Ok, so I had the choice between the iPhone and the X1, and I think the X1 would we better for me as I would be able to flash custom roms on it and fix mos t of the lag. I'm about to order the X1 off of ebay. I live in the US and there at&t doesn't carry the X1 AFAIK (correct me if I'm wrong). Now, I have a bunch of questions regarding ROMs and other things.
Would I have to update my X1 before installing a custom ROM or would it come updated?
On average, how long would the battery last?
I heard it's supposed to have like 6 days standby time.
What are the risks of flashing a custom ROM?
I heard that Hard-SPL-ing it could "brick" your phone. I also heard that even after Hard-SPL, if you flash a custom ROM wrong or one that's messed up you could render your phone useless forever. If this is true, what are the precautions I should take before flashing my ROM (I plan to do it when I first get my phone, as I know it's laggy. I'm also running windows 7 so please tell me if I need to run XP or Vista for it to work)
Is there a way to fix a bricked phone?
What are some really good apps that enhance the experience of the X1? Such as maybe a volume enhancer? (as the sound is very low from what I know)
I already know of some, like Opera Mini, Touchflo 3d (comes with custom ROMs AFAIK) and Sbp mobile shell.
Even after flashing a custom ROM like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524043 , would it still be laggy when changing panels or while loading apps?
Does the case scratch easily? Is it necessary for me to buy a case if I don't want it to be all scratched up?
Do cab files that work on WM 6.1 also work on WM 6.5? Because I saw this: http://xperiancers.com/2009/04/22/how-to-use-your-xperia-x1-a-little-guide-to-windows-mobile/ , and I was wondering if the speed ups mentioned in that post work with WM 6.5?
If you guys think I'm making a bad decision by not buying the iPhone, please let me know what you think
Do you guys know if at&t offers the X1 so I can get a better deal? because I'm going to switch from T-Mobile to at&t very soon. (I live in the US)
Is there a way to make the phone landscape without a sliding the keyboard? Because AFAIK the Xperia lacks an accelerometer.?
I heard you can assign "shortcuts" or something to quickly switch from landscape to portrait. Need more info. on this.
Is it possible to Hard-SPL and flash a custom rom to ANY Xpeira? Like are there any that are "blocked" where you can't Hard-SPL it?
Thanks in advance.
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You firmware version can not be verified until you verify it yourself DUH. What a dumb question. Your ROM IS YOUR VERSION. If you update the phone with the latest official ROM, and then flash a different ROM than you obviously lose the official ROM so update is pointless.
Phone lasts 3 days on standby now. It lasts 4-5 hours on usage.
No risks at all. But if you're not good at doing simple stuff such as flashing ROM don't get into it. PLEASE! It took me 24 hours NON STOP too help some clueless person flash his NIKE because he just kept doing it wrong and yet I gave him straightforward and in depth instructions. Other than that, flashing your from or updating your phone with an official ROM will delete all personal data.
If hard spl bricked your phone than you're obviously doing something wrong. If it bricked your phone, the developers wouldn't even release hard spl....
I won't suggest any Apps.
Yes, CAB files work on 6.5.
Don't get an iPhone. Don't get Xperia. Touch Pro2 is much better (especially they keyboard).
ATT does not offer. But you can buy the American version that works well on ATT's 3G.
Since when does a phone need an accelerometer to rotate? And yes you can use programs to rotate the screen (even tho accelerometer is not necessay....i guess you have absolutely no idea what an accelerometer is). But yes you can assign shortcuts or modify physical buttons. One program for example is AEBPlus.
All Xperia's can be hard spl'd.
NeoXerO said:
Ok, so I had the choice between the iPhone and the X1, and I think the X1 would we better for me as I would be able to flash custom roms on it and fix mos t of the lag. I'm about to order the X1 off of ebay. I live in the US and there at&t doesn't carry the X1 AFAIK (correct me if I'm wrong). Now, I have a bunch of questions regarding ROMs and other things.
Would I have to update my X1 before installing a custom ROM or would it come updated?
No you can flash it with a custom rom whenever you like.
On average, how long would the battery last?
On average with a fair bit of wifi usage it'll last 3-4 days, less with constant voice usage.
I heard it's supposed to have like 6 days standby time.
Probably 6 days without using it
What are the risks of flashing a custom ROM?
I heard that Hard-SPL-ing it could "brick" your phone. I also heard that even after Hard-SPL, if you flash a custom ROM wrong or one that's messed up you could render your phone useless forever. If this is true, what are the precautions I should take before flashing my ROM (I plan to do it when I first get my phone, as I know it's laggy. I'm also running windows 7 so please tell me if I need to run XP or Vista for it to work)
To be honest i've flashed loads of phones and even if it bricks it temporarily you can always reflash it. Windows 7 makes no difference if you flash from the memory card.
Is there a way to fix a bricked phone?
I would guess if this happens you can always reflash the standard rom, however I have no experiance with this.
What are some really good apps that enhance the experience of the X1? Such as maybe a volume enhancer? (as the sound is very low from what I know)
I've got no problems with the volume but there are probably volume increasers out there.
I already know of some, like Opera Mini, Touchflo 3d (comes with custom ROMs AFAIK) and Sbp mobile shell.
Even after flashing a custom ROM like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524043 , would it still be laggy when changing panels or while loading apps?
The trick with reflashing is going for the best rom for you. I use the bare version of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509891. However with most roms you will loose the panels but honestly I dont think that its much of a sacrifice.
Does the case scratch easily? Is it necessary for me to buy a case if I don't want it to be all scratched up?
No in my experience the case is pretty tough but if you put it in the same pocket as your keys bits of the sony logo will come off. Having said that the build quality is miles better than any other phone with a similar spec.
Do cab files that work on WM 6.1 also work on WM 6.5? Because I saw this: http://xperiancers.com/2009/04/22/how-to-use-your-xperia-x1-a-little-guide-to-windows-mobile/ , and I was wondering if the speed ups mentioned in that post work with WM 6.5?
All cabs i've installed have worked on 6.5 fine.
If you guys think I'm making a bad decision by not buying the iPhone, please let me know what you think
The iphone is a good bit of kit but it depends on what you want to use it for. If you want a replacement mp3 player and phone and you like itunes the the iphone is probably best for you. If you prefer a phone that you can customise use any software on or simply prefer not to be locked to apple the go for the X1. You must bare in mind though that unless you need to get a new phone now there are a load of new winmo phones about to come out with better specs.
Do you guys know if at&t offers the X1 so I can get a better deal? because I'm going to switch from T-Mobile to at&t very soon. (I live in the US)
Sorry mate im from the UK.
Is there a way to make the phone landscape without a sliding the keyboard? Because AFAIK the Xperia lacks an accelerometer.?
I heard you can assign "shortcuts" or something to quickly switch from landscape to portrait. Need more info. on this.
Im fairly sure that you can set a button to change from portrait to landscape, at least there are with my old hermes.
Is it possible to Hard-SPL and flash a custom rom to ANY Xpeira? Like are there any that are "blocked" where you can't Hard-SPL it?
As far as I know there is no way that a winmo phone can be "locked" to prevent it from being flashed.
Thanks in advance.
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No problem
I've just remembered a good video guide to flash your rom is here if your still curious: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=497511
Thanks a lot for your input guys, it really helped. One last thing. When people say that Manila is "integrated" with WinMo, does that mean that Manila acts as a separate panel (like I've seen in many videos) or is there something I'm missing?
"Does the case scratch easily? Is it necessary for me to buy a case if I don't want it to be all scratched up?"
The brushed metal backside battery cover on my black Xperia started picking scratches and metal base started showing through the edges almost within a week of normal usage. A crack on the casing also developed within a month. After just a month of using my X1 carefully, it looks like a year old worn and torn down 50 cent phone. Stay away from X1... HTC Pro2 is a much better deal...
I would get the iphone. I'm seriously considering the iphone as the sony ericsson repair team are useless.
NeoXerO said:
Ok, so I had the choice between the iPhone and the X1, and I think the X1 would we better for me as I would be able to flash custom roms on it and fix mos t of the lag. I'm about to order the X1 off of ebay. I live in the US and there at&t doesn't carry the X1 AFAIK (correct me if I'm wrong). Now, I have a bunch of questions regarding ROMs and other things.
Would I have to update my X1 before installing a custom ROM or would it come updated?
On average, how long would the battery last?
I heard it's supposed to have like 6 days standby time.
What are the risks of flashing a custom ROM?
I heard that Hard-SPL-ing it could "brick" your phone. I also heard that even after Hard-SPL, if you flash a custom ROM wrong or one that's messed up you could render your phone useless forever. If this is true, what are the precautions I should take before flashing my ROM (I plan to do it when I first get my phone, as I know it's laggy. I'm also running windows 7 so please tell me if I need to run XP or Vista for it to work)
Is there a way to fix a bricked phone?
What are some really good apps that enhance the experience of the X1? Such as maybe a volume enhancer? (as the sound is very low from what I know)
I already know of some, like Opera Mini, Touchflo 3d (comes with custom ROMs AFAIK) and Sbp mobile shell.
Even after flashing a custom ROM like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524043 , would it still be laggy when changing panels or while loading apps?
Does the case scratch easily? Is it necessary for me to buy a case if I don't want it to be all scratched up?
Do cab files that work on WM 6.1 also work on WM 6.5? Because I saw this: http://xperiancers.com/2009/04/22/how-to-use-your-xperia-x1-a-little-guide-to-windows-mobile/ , and I was wondering if the speed ups mentioned in that post work with WM 6.5?
If you guys think I'm making a bad decision by not buying the iPhone, please let me know what you think
Do you guys know if at&t offers the X1 so I can get a better deal? because I'm going to switch from T-Mobile to at&t very soon. (I live in the US)
Is there a way to make the phone landscape without a sliding the keyboard? Because AFAIK the Xperia lacks an accelerometer.?
I heard you can assign "shortcuts" or something to quickly switch from landscape to portrait. Need more info. on this.
Is it possible to Hard-SPL and flash a custom rom to ANY Xpeira? Like are there any that are "blocked" where you can't Hard-SPL it?
Thanks in advance.
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My two cents:
Flashing a ROM deletes all previous installs/updates/whatever.
Normal use - 1 day.
Heavy use - 4 hours.
Minimal to non-existent.
No.
RAFO lol.
Depends on the ROM, but it will never be perfectly smooth.
Just like any other phone.
Yes.
Depends on what you need. If you need a useless outdated device to show off infront of your friends - getbn the iCrap.
If you want a pocket computer - get the X1.
Also, Touch Pro 2 IS NOT better than the X1. I made a thread about in their forum. Search for it. It is called "Touch Pro 2 sucks. Here is why.". I would put a link, but I'm posting this from my X1 and I'm too lazy to do it lol.
I don't know.
Yes, you can map a button to do it.
Yes.
pashax1 said:
"Does the case scratch easily? Is it necessary for me to buy a case if I don't want it to be all scratched up?"
The brushed metal backside battery cover on my black Xperia started picking scratches and metal base started showing through the edges almost within a week of normal usage. A crack on the casing also developed within a month. After just a month of using my X1 carefully, it looks like a year old worn and torn down 50 cent phone. Stay away from X1... HTC Pro2 is a much better deal...
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Learn to take care of your tech. My X1 is 9 months old and is in peffect condition. Don't lie to people, because you can't keep it clean/unscratched.
modo_uk said:
I would get the iphone. I'm seriously considering the iphone as the sony ericsson repair team are useless.
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FAIL.....
With newer smartphone models on the horizon, I don't know how wise a move it would be to buy an X1 now unless it's a really good deal. My X1 is holding up fine for my needs now, but it's not as polished UI wise as I would want it to be. Since I don't understand a thing about ROM cooking and the fact that I'm using Mac's keeps me on my stock ROM (though once updated on a Windows computer), but that's not something I'm necessarily unhappy about. Sure, I'm curious about all the ROM's out there and different UI's but I feel the phone is really stable now. I haven't had a crash for quite a while, which I feel is worth celebrating considering it's WinMo
This phone scratches WAY less than most smartphones, because it isn't made entirely of very cheap plastic...
HTC's other branded phones are pretty notorious for their cheap housing and they crack/scratch/break quite easily.
The three main UI overhauls are Manila (TF3D), SPB Mobile Shell and PointUI Home 2. There's a billion cabs you can skin different things with, so no point in gathering this information until after you have a ROM installed, since different ROMs come with different things installed already.
i have an X1 here in the states on AT&T and it works great. they support it fine.
hezz05 said:
but it's not as polished UI wise as I would want it to be. Since I don't understand a thing about ROM cooking
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well you answered your own problem right there. the X1 has literally unlimited UI options and fine tuning capabilities. i'll be the first to admit the stock UI leaves a lot to be desired, but anyone can get it to work/look exactly like what they want with a little bit of reading
Hmm, well I HAVE considered other smartphones. I've had a Nokia N73 with Symbian S60th edition for like 2 years now (great OS, just bored of it), so I don't really think I'd want another Symbian phone like the Nokia N97. I've also never used WinMo before, and I know it's not really that good (which is why there's touchflo and custom roms ) , but I also want to try something fresh and new. I've also considered the HTC Touch Pro 2, but At&t doesn't offer it and it's like 700 bucks unlocked when I could get the xperia for like 450 bucks unlocked (ebay). Other than that I really dont know what other phone I could consider buying.
Thanks for all these replies guys. I didn't really expect this many.
asayamalaka said:
i have an X1 here in the states on AT&T and it works great. they support it fine.
well you answered your own problem right there. the X1 has literally unlimited UI options and fine tuning capabilities. i'll be the first to admit the stock UI leaves a lot to be desired, but anyone can get it to work/look exactly like what they want with a little bit of reading
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I'd be happy to read a noob-friendly tutorial for Mac users if you could direct me to one. But since I haven't seen either from the day of purchase, I'm keeping with my opinion for now.
Having the ability to mod/customize doesn't take away that the stock Winmo and SE UI is shoddy though. If it were good in the first place it wouldn't need/inspire customizing.
AT&T will offer the TP2, but yeah that phone is not cheap, even with subsidies + rebates...
I got my Xperia X1a used for $400 and works great. I hate how cheap the HTC branded phones feel...
Would I have to update my X1 before installing a custom ROM or would it come updated? You have to install Hard-SPL which is very easy.
On average, how long would the battery last?
I use mine pretty much all day (music,video,calls etc) and it lasts for about 24hrs until it needs a charge.
What are the risks of flashing a custom ROM?
It's very easy just read the tutorial thread.
What are some really good apps that enhance the experience of the X1? Such as maybe a volume enhancer? (as the sound is very low from what I know) The volume really isn't that bad, It's no 5800 although it gets the job done.
Does the case scratch easily? Is it necessary for me to buy a case if I don't want it to be all scratched up? If you treat your things with care you won't have any problem.
If you guys think I'm making a bad decision by not buying the iPhone, please let me know what you think I bought an X1 about a week ago and it's great although I suggest you try it out perhaps at the store or a friends to see if you like it.
Is there a way to make the phone landscape without a sliding the keyboard? Because AFAIK the Xperia lacks an accelerometer.?
Yes you can.
orelsi said:
Learn to take care of your tech. My X1 is 9 months old and is in peffect condition. Don't lie to people, because you can't keep it clean/unscratched.
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Please refrain from calling someone a liar whoever you are. I am only saying what is a fact with my phone. I have been very very careful with its use and protection. Just beacuse you are lucky to not have a bad experience with X1 doesnot qualify you to suggest others are telling lies. I have been using high end mobile phones even before you were born and i know what i am talking about. Dont misguide users with your baseless judgements.
I just recently bought a x1 and it is quite laggy and is there a way to take off the notifications when you send a sms it is quite annoying when you are sending tons of texts a day
Anyone know whats the best rom to make the phone go faster?
sorry I am a noob don't flame me!
treeeee said:
I just recently bought a x1 and it is quite laggy and is there a way to take off the notifications when you send a sms it is quite annoying when you are sending tons of texts a day
Anyone know whats the best rom to make the phone go faster?
sorry I am a noob don't flame me!
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Hehehehe... you're inviting yourself to be flamed... A bit of search would have given you answers. Check out the sticky's related to tweaks. I would recommend installing Xperia Tweak or some other applications like Pocket Toolman and SKTools etc that can let you make changes to your system settings.
This thread is for people like me, who don't know what ROM to choose from a list of many ROMs from many great chefs.
I am keeping my poll options empty for the time being as I have only played with a few ROMs without any guidance. I will begin to populate them as I start to see a few specific ROMs appearing consistantly.
I would like to ask the community of xda-developers to come by and help populate this thread with simple comments
and/or recommendations on what ROM(s if you have multiple devices) you use on your Rhodium/Touch Pro 2/Tilt 2 device.
Also, please also add what kind of user your are, or how/why you use your phone with 'said' ROM.
Additionally beneficial would be letting users know what ROM you recently used prior to your recommendation and the offsets you experience in general.
ie. ROM A is the one I recommend. However, ROM B does a few things a bit better, although ROM A is the one I would recommend to people who like smooth, quick eyecandy filled ROMs.
I also ask for intelligent, constructive critique on what you think about the ROM that you are commenting upon.
No one needs to know about what piece of profanity you would like to tack on 'user A' for saying '10101' about 'ROM B' or vice-versa.
This is meant to be a resource for new users to xda-developers, like I was, and to new owners of the HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium, Windows Mobile phone.
Candidly, I would like to have the moderator's support in keeping this a clean thread to have an easier (and more pleasant) navigation throughout the thread.
I would like to start off with creating a list of ROMs organized by chef name and OS/TouchFlo 3D version.
Underneath each ROM and their links (I will either find the ROM myself, or if you can be so helpful enough to link it onto your post
within this thread), I will be adding the pros and cons that are mentioned here, and that I have found as well.
To let you know a bit about my bias, I am looking for the following items;
-Speed
--Not only operating speed, going from interface to interface, but also how it handles multitasking.
--I usually do these three together; GPS, music, web browsing/text messaging
-User Friendliness
--From first stepping into the ROM, to using it for a couple of days and seeing it's inevitable and understandable flaws and offsets.
--Customizing settings on the ROM, and the ease to have certain things.
-Miscellaneous
--Other things such as the way the ROM will handle things such as the
unsightly error of TouchFlo 3D 2.5 and it's lack of Landscape viewing ability.
--These items will account for my general accountability on the topic of
"Would I (highly) recommend to my friend, who may be the same as, or a completely different user than, me."
My history with phones;
I have first used Motorola phones, starting with the t220 (apparently one of the first camera phones) moving to the RAZR V6 MAXX
(quite a glam, nice looking phone with great features, but poor connectivity issues with network and bluetooth) and a few years ago
Sony Ericsson phones such as the W810, K850 and the Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1a.
Most recently;
I have late last year, used a BlackBerry BOLD 9000, and in the past 3 months, trialed the Sony Ericsson XPERIA.
Without much ROM customization, the stock ROM was fun to play with, but lacked the easy access and user interface speed that
I have become accustomed to with the BlackBerry BOLD 9000. However, in seeing the Touch Pro 2 and purchasing it, I can now fully indulge in customizing
it with ROMs to fit my needs, though I am still painfully without hardware keys to have quick access to my browser, music or GPS.
However, I suppose the full 5 row keyboard makes up for the lack of hardware buttons elsewhere on the body.
Currently, I am using my Touch Pro 2, mainly as a resource device. What do I mean by this? I am using it with a SIM Card that only has data services.
I have installed programs such as Japanese dictionaries, phrase banks and linguistic aids to help in my study of the Japanese language.
I also use this for school (I am currently in grade 11, high school) using this device as my quick access to the internet (even though I have my blackberry).
I suppose having new devices is an obsession for me, as with a few others on here.
I'm looking for ROMs that will allow me quick and easy access to the programs that I frequent the most such as my Japanese programs, GPS,
music, web browser, notes, M-Soft Word and also allow me to freely multitask with them.
I know that this is mainly hardware dependent, but I have learned that some ROMs take up less RAM space, as to free up some more coasting speed for programs to run on.
Posting Format
Please include the following;
Recommended ROM?
ROM used before recommended ROM?
Your network provider, phone (is it from/branded T-Mobile US, AT&T, Telstra, Sprint, TELUS)?
How/What do you use your phone? (Business, personal, school // As your main device, just as a (conference) phone, just as a mini internet tablet, etc...)
The pros & cons you noticed coming onto this ROM?
Who you think would benefit from using this ROM?
ADDITIONALLY;
I want to invite Chefs to either PM me, or post what (and who) they desire their ROM to be (for),
so that TP2/Rhodium users/owners can have a one-stop place to take a look at which ROM has what to offer (and to whom).
I will be adding the Chef's words beneath the ROM(s) they wish to comment upon.
The following post will before the ROM listings.
ROM Listings!
Chef NRGZ28
He builds his ROMs with four main goals.
* Eye candy
* Speed !!!
* Smoothness, consistency and good aesthetics
* Stability through private beta testing before public release
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★ EnergyROM "Leo" (Build 23016) [Updated Oct 7]
Runs Windows Mobile 6.5 WWE & TouchFlo 3D/Manila 2.5
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Comments;
-Stable
-Fast
-Good Looking
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Great for;
★ EnergyROM "Photon, formerly GENESIS" (BUILD?) [Updated Oct 7]
Runs Windows Mobile 6.5 WWE & TouchFlo 3D/Manila 2.1
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Comments;
-Bug-Free
-Great aesthetics
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Great for;
Chef Monx
"ONLY THE BEST FOR ALL XDA-DEV MEMBERS"
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ROMeOS³ v1.20 (Build 23016)
Runs Windows Mobile 6.5 WWE & TouchFlo 3D/Manila 2.5 + HTC SENSE (beta)
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Comments;
-Fun and easy to customize to personal tastes
-Works great "out of the box"
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Great for;
Chef b16b
AthineOS v2.0 OEM Style (Build 21054)
Runs Windows Mobile 6.1 & TouchFlo 3D/Manila 2.1
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Comments;
-Works great "out of the box"
-Very stock/OEM like ROM without all the carrier's unneccessary confectionery
-Easy to use, being that it is a simple ROM
-Quick and fast
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Great for;
-Those who are looking to keep their stock ROM without carrier branding or excessive programs
-Great for business users to retain that 'corporate' look
[MORE COMING]
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im so glad you have this up. i also have a hard time choosing.
pretty useless comment lol
You might be wasting your time since a mod most likely will close this thread...
How come?
If I'm making a bit too bias (on what I'm looking for) then I won't include my own opinion. That's fine.
But I want to have something like what the Kovsky/Sony Ericsson XPERIA forum has.
A ROM index, but enhanced with things such as recommendations, and owner/users & chef comments.
SleepiTyme said:
How come?
If I'm making a bit too bias (on what I'm looking for) then I won't include my own opinion. That's fine.
But I want to have something like what the Kovsky/Sony Ericsson XPERIA forum has.
A ROM index, but enhanced with things such as recommendations, and owner/users & chef comments.
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I am not sure why, the last few times someone asked which ROM was best the mods closed the thread. They claim it cuases flame wars and such.
Personally, I dont mind, like the idea and I was just giving you a heads up. Maybe you should ask a mod before your proceed further.
I would say this poll would avoid other threads like "what do you think is the best rom" or "can you advise me some rom"
So thumbs up
the best way to keep one thread like this is :
take one benchmark.. and test all the rom.. and post all result here
like topaz one
otherwise will locked soon
Benchmark?
"How does Benchmark?"
I think.. by emulating the ROM's speed and multitasking capabilities and such?
I want to know, not by computer, but by people why 'said' ROM is great.
Honestly, this is my story here;
I heard that ROMeOS's ROM for the Rhodium was great, although I had first saw Athine OS (both the light and Titanium builds with 2.1 and 2.5 Manila, 6.1 and 6.5 WinMo) and saw the pictures of the interface were just completely amazing.
So I downloaded them, but saw that they ran.. just the same as my stock ROM (at quite the same speed), though it was much cleaner than my Telstra stock ROM which was confuddled with many apps and things that I didn't need. And the light blue theme just didn't do it for me.
So then I just recently (actually last night) installed the ROMeOS ROM on my TP2 and found it so fun to have so much control upon things such as background wallpaper (both for lock screen and home screen tab). Also things such as backlighting, edit tabs, set up bluetooth, set up data, ringtones, message notifications ALMOST EVERYTHING customizable (that you would usually have to go in and out of menus for on the stock WWE ROM, and sometimes the Athine ROM) was located in one simple tab. Neigh, a simple section within a tab that had even more customization for other things on the phone.
THAT! That was most likely made this ROM popular, and it really did get into my good books quickly... until I found out that Manila 2.5 doesn't support Landscape.
I feel like I should either.. move onto another ROM, or just live with it.
I'm using Gyrator 2 along with my ROM, and it DID have the event action NOT to have auto rotate in Manila.. even though.. I want it to...
This above.. I'm looking for comments such as this, except from other, MORE experienced users with better opinions. Who hopefully can dumb it down so that people like me and many others, still fairly new to Windows Mobile, xda-developers and the HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium alike, can understand.
I believe.. that this should be something like a collaborative blog.
Just reading back up on my post right now, it's almost as if I were reading someone's story.
Many users might not want to go through that, and others may just want to write something to have their experience heard.
What I want to do is sift through all of that, and just have the comments, positive or negative, tacked onto each ROM in a list.
My ROMs Listing post.
Right by each description from each Chef.
Maybe it'll be reason enough for mods to keep this alive, maybe it won't be.
But... saving the effort of going through each ROM (there are about... 6-10, give or take 5^x) in which said thread for said ROM has 10+ pages of posts, usually around the vicinity of 30-50.
That is A LOT OF READING.
useless information
personally, this is useless information and i don"t go by polls. The best information is based on users" signature. I also take time to read, instead of relying on polls.
SleepiTyme said:
Benchmark?
"How does Benchmark?"
I think.. by emulating the ROM's speed and multitasking capabilities and such?
I want to know, not by computer, but by people why 'said' ROM is great.
Honestly, this is my story here;
I heard that ROMeOS's ROM for the Rhodium was great, although I had first saw Athine OS (both the light and Titanium builds with 2.1 and 2.5 Manila, 6.1 and 6.5 WinMo) and saw the pictures of the interface were just completely amazing.
So I downloaded them, but saw that they ran.. just the same as my stock ROM, though it was much cleaner than my Telstra stock ROM which was confuddled with many apps and things that I didn't need. And the light blue theme just didn't do it for me.
So then I just recently (actually last night) installed the ROMeOS ROM on my TP2 and found it so fun to have so much control upon things such as background wallpaper (both for lock screen and home screen tab). Also things such as backlighting, edit tabs, set up bluetooth, set up data, ringtones, message notifications ALMOST EVERYTHING customizable (that you would usually have to go in and out of menus for on the stock WWE ROM, and sometimes the Athine ROM) was located in one simple tab. Neigh, a simple section within a tab that had even more customization for other things on the phone.
THAT! That was most likely made this ROM popular, and it really did get into my good books quickly... until I found out that Manila 2.5 doesn't support Landscape.
I feel like I should either.. move onto another ROM, or just live with it.
I'm using Gyrator 2 along with my ROM, and it DID have the event action NOT to have auto rotate in Manila.. even though.. I want it to...
This above.. I'm looking for comments such as this, except from other, MORE experienced users with better opinions. Who hopefully can dumb it down so that people like me and many others, still fairly new to Windows Mobile, xda-developers and the HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium alike, can understand.
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How does one know which is best if they do not try them all? You mentioned two ROMs but have not mentioned the others. Can you give valid opinion on which you think is best without trying them all? Everyone has different tastes.
Those are just some of the things the mods may say and have said.
Like what I said, I don't mind a thread like this and wish there was a way to do this in a way that was more subjective.
Maybe there needs to be an official ROM judge
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Well that won't work either.
The only for you to know what ROM is best for you is to try them all until you find one that you like for yourself.
Ut0p1a said:
personally, this is useless information and i don"t go by polls. The best information is based on users" signature. I also take time to read, instead of relying on polls.
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Then.. maybe not polls?
What other way would be the best to;
1) save you time from reading a couple dozen to a couple hundred posts everytime you got a new device (though we're only talking about the Rhodium, and if you've read all those posts, I suppose you're a lost cause that I want to avoid being like, and want to help others avoid being as such as well)
2) Get you the accurate information on what are the highlights of the ROMs
2b) Without all the different ways that each chef sets up their forum posts to explain what their ROM does
2c) And have it all in one common format
3) Not many people post their ROMs on their signatures. I just saw it around as a growing
@At0mAng
Thank you for your opinion at this time of night.
Yes, did only mention (actually it was) three roms.
However, that is just only my input.
I've yet to trial the Miri ROM(s) and the Energy ROMs, just to name a few.
But mainly, I want simple, quick or concise comments on which ROMs a good/great and for what reason. Is it some part of the ROM? Does it perform better in the way that you've explained that you are using your TP2? Etc?
Yes.. everyone has different tastes, but they can mention what they like about 'said' ROM and help people become objective by the comments made here, and the quick pros and cons that have been tabulated onto the second post of this forum for quick reference as to which ROM does what best, or includes which great feature.
Edit;
This thread isn't here to decide Which ROM is the NUMBER ONE (for YOU)?!
It's to help guide newcomers to xda-developers, the HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium and Windows Mobile (all together) choose which ROM to pick.
I mean.. for new people, they have probably heard of ROMs, but don't know what to do with it.
What the heck is a HardSPL and flashing it?
Or, naturally after coming from the HardSPL resource sticky, one does suddenly freeze up and get stuck before spending 3-5 hours reading posts and choosing which ROM to pick and install, only to find out it doesn't really meet their requirements and move on to another one with a HUGE amount of wasted effort.
This here is to help people like that make more objective decisions, much quicker with the pros and cons of each ROM outlined and defined.
ROM Review template?
At0mAng said:
I am not sure why, the last few times someone asked which ROM was best the mods closed the thread. They claim it cuases flame wars and such.
Personally, I dont mind, like the idea and I was just giving you a heads up. Maybe you should ask a mod before your proceed further.
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Completely agree with At0mAng and I like this idea. I don't understand the fear of flame wars either. Just ban the people who start flaming and can't have a normal discussion.
As for this thread, maybe we could all post reviews of a ROM in a certain template. E.g. give grades for speed, apps, stability, eye candy, etc... Some people look for speed and clean ROMs, others just for the most fully apped ROMs. With a review template, you could have a quick overview of what a ROM performs best on and make your pick.
It's Right!
There is NO Best ROM !
Every Cooker has his "touch and taste" in his ROM...
I love to work with you all, guys...
All the cookers here are talented!
Work AS a TEAM get us a BETTER results!!
Continue all, in the great progress...
We will "knock out" HTC software at a glance...
TheAgent1982 said:
There is NO Best ROM !
Every Cooker has his "touch and taste" in his ROM...
I love to work with you all, guys...
All the cookers here are talented!
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It's not the point of this thread to find THE best ROM, but to find the most suitable ROM that fits your needs, at a glance...
Normally these threads are just closed as At0mAng said, but that would be unfair to the OP who's invested a fair old bit of time in this. It isn't the usual format and could be beneficial.
I've said before, that there isn't a forum rules preventing these threads, they are just closed because most of the people who create them are lazy noobs. If this threads is successful, then it "should" lead to less new threads.
I'm now subscribed and will monitor it, if it does degrade in to pretty much a Chef A vs Chef B thread, then I'll close it.
Thanks
Dave
Hi,
I'd like to take the opportunity to try to find a ROM which fits my needs: is there any Rom out there with WM 6.5, quicker than the stock ROM (if one can compare), with as few bugs as possible, still keeping Manilla 2.1 ? By the way, I am not interested in aesthetics, nor in software when the cab is available to install by myself. I only tested EnergyROM Genesis up to now, which is excellent, bug free as far as I can tell, but with many applications, very good aesthetics, maybe speed could improve with lighter graphics... Is there any quicker ROM here ?
On a side note, I find that the virtual keyboard of the TP2 is slow, e.g. changing from alpha to numeric takes too much time (then the first digit you type is ignored), does any ROM (or cab) improve this ?
Recommended ROM
I agree with the moderator that this poll (purely on the basis of statistics) is an interesting experiment and should not be stopped. It is vital though that people who vote have tested a significant number of the roms available.
I tested all the roms available on the 20-25 Sep period (7-8 of them) and I ended up using NRGZ28's Leo Manila 2.5 ROM as the most stable, fast, good looking. Essentially I encounter no bugs in every day use and I would recommend this rom to any TP2 user.
Just got an SE Xperia X1
All excited to try it out, however it has just got freshly put on an WM6.5 (an english one, as the previous owner was using a WM6.5 Chinese one on it). This one seems to be operating a little oddly, and slowly. I'm almost certain it is an HTC ROM as it has a "HTC Calendar".
So I'm thinking I should replace it, what is the best option? It looks like the Android options are a little shaky, which won't do as I'll be using this phone every day (intensively, sending hundreds if not thousands of txts per month, and various calls, apps, etc...).
So... is there an excellent WM6.5 option? With SE panels?
Go for UnOff Infinite or X1.5, then read a lot about different roms and make a decision yourself. The best rom is a rom that fits your needs best.
Which ROM would make it the most similar to the Xperia X2?
Greetings to fellow NZer!!!! I tried a few ROMs and decided to stick with 6.1-based for speed and stability. I also wanted TF3D. I suggest you look at descriptions, pictures and read comments. If the thread consists of thousands of posts - read the last 5 pages or so, they will be most likely to be for the updated version in the first post.
Last time I went to Auckland, I noticed the abysmal Voda coverage, even in the middle of the city, hopefully whatever radio you have on will work well.
I also tried a bunch of others without problems, have to find the exact names, which escapes me now... Try a few each day, flashing is done in minutes, so play around, see how it looks and whether it performs to your expectations. Read ahead on the bugs, of course.
Mathmo said:
Which ROM would make it the most similar to the Xperia X2?
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Go into the ROM section and check what's there!
Cool you're in NZ too, I haven't noticed any trouble before now.. but I've been using a Sony Ericsson Aino on XT, the Xperia X1 however will be VF.
From what I've seen I'll lose all my data each time I switch ROMs, am I right? (txts, emails, photos, contacts)
Would be handy if there was a stickied thread with the say the "top five" ROMs as voted by the community, would make it much easier to decide on things for a newbie as the ROM forum can be intimidatingly large to get started with
Just out of curiosity, may I ask what WM6.1 are you using?
Jerpleas ROM. The Unoff ROMS don't work so well with panels.
Mathmo said:
Cool you're in NZ too, I haven't noticed any trouble before now.. but I've been using a Sony Ericsson Aino on XT, the Xperia X1 however will be VF.
From what I've seen I'll lose all my data each time I switch ROMs, am I right? (txts, emails, photos, contacts)
Would be handy if there was a stickied thread with the say the "top five" ROMs as voted by the community, would make it much easier to decide on things for a newbie as the ROM forum can be intimidatingly large to get started with
Just out of curiosity, may I ask what WM6.1 are you using?
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NUTS 10.9 - never a glitch. And yes, you will lose everything you have, similar to reinstalling Windows after a fresh format.
The best thing if you want to try many ROMs is to install just your 'can't live without' things and settings in order to check they all work. I have all my .CABs on a card, so it's a more or less set procedure. Speaking of VFNZ, some ROMs will run automatic setup and quite a few of them have wrong settings, so I recommend keeping the .CAB and skip the automated process. The only ROM i had seen with correct settings so far was the latest NRGY Cookie GTX.
thanks for that! Unfortunately my battery died and I discovered the charger is not compatible with NZ powerpoints! So my experimenting shall have to wait until next week.... but I've filled up a bookmark folder with a dozen links to ROMs I've got my eyes on.
Still don't know which one I'll try first! I'll simply have to play spin the bottle.
Mathmo said:
thanks for that! Unfortunately my battery died and I discovered the charger is not compatible with NZ powerpoints! So my experimenting shall have to wait until next week.... but I've filled up a bookmark folder with a dozen links to ROMs I've got my eyes on.
Still don't know which one I'll try first! I'll simply have to play spin the bottle.
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Do what I did - see the largest number of replies to the thread with the last pages containing a lot of thanks And screenshots, of course.
I've used 826x and also valkyrie v7, really nice ROM, smooth and also stable
hi
i also using Val V7.0. no complain. but need to view chinese wording and type chinese. any one can help?
rom?
what is the fastst rom wm6.1 / 6.5 that support sense 2.1? like jack 3.x for the speed and energy rom for sense design... but without cookietab, simple and clean sense 2.1
Make sure you check out EnergyRoms also, I'm tried all his roms, some still have the SoD bug but The "Energy Photon" and no problems at all...but flash flash flash....its the only way to be sure
Just my opinion,
Jerpelea's is the best for non HTC Stuffs, look like X2 stuffs inside.
Energy ROM or x826 Williyung for best HTC Stuff inside.