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Hi everyone, I am a bit of a flash junky thanks to the great selection of ROM's here at XDA-Developers, many thanks to all the great cooks here!!, but every time I flash a original ROM 1.56 or above when I restore my contacts and appointments via PPCPimBackup (v2.8.0.0) I experienced a slow photo contact problem, i.e. when I scroll through my contacts pictures this is extremely slow? it can take 3-4 seconds slowly flipping say 3 contact photos? not a problem with any cooked ROM?
I have tried tweaking the original ROM's via HD Tweak 0.5.4 but everything I have tried doesn’t work in speeding up contact photos in manila?
I am pretty much happy with most of the cooked ROM's available here, and the speed is generally much faster than the original ROM's, but wondered why the slow contacts tab in manila is appearing now?
Here’s hoping someone can clarify the problem for me.
Thanks again to everyone who contributes their valuable time here XDA-Developers.
gadjet said:
Hi everyone, I am a bit of a flash junky thanks to the great selection of ROM's here at XDA-Developers, many thanks to all the great cooks here!!, but every time I flash a original ROM 1.56 or above when I restore my contacts and appointments via PPCPimBackup (v2.8.0.0) I experienced a slow photo contact problem, i.e. when I scroll through my contacts pictures this is extremely slow? it can take 3-4 seconds slowly flipping say 3 contact photos? not a problem with any cooked ROM?
I have tried tweaking the original ROM's via HD Tweak 0.5.4 but everything I have tried doesn’t work in speeding up contact photos in manila?
I am pretty much happy with most of the cooked ROM's available here, and the speed is generally much faster than the original ROM's, but wondered why the slow contacts tab in manila is appearing now?
Here’s hoping someone can clarify the problem for me.
Thanks again to everyone who contributes their valuable time here XDA-Developers.
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May I ask why you continulously flash back to original rom? Why not stick with cooked rom's if problem only occurs on original?
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Hi Fallen Spartan.
I always flash back to original ROM before I flash a new cooked ROM, mainly because I found that through the flashing process, my varous PDA's over the years leave reminents of other ROM's can still be left in PDA?
I sometimes use original ROM's if I have to use TomTom alot, i.e. the lag is better with an original ROM?
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Hi Fallen Spartan.
I always flash back to original ROM before I flash a new cooked ROM, mainly because I found that through the flashing process, my varous PDA's over the years leave reminents of other ROM's can still be left in PDA?
I sometimes use original ROM's if I have to use TomTom alot, i.e. the lag is better with an original ROM?
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as far as im aware, i've been flashing cooked ROMs for the last 6months and everytime i flash i dont go back to the stock rom, i just flash each rom after the other and nver had any problems, i am a loyal fan of Dutty's ROMs, but i also try other Roms to suit my likes, we are really fortunate for these cooks, we can only but help them by reporting bugs and the likes and offer inspiration and donations. all the best
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Hi Fallen Spartan.
I always flash back to original ROM before I flash a new cooked ROM, mainly because I found that through the flashing process, my varous PDA's over the years leave reminents of other ROM's can still be left in PDA?
I sometimes use original ROM's if I have to use TomTom alot, i.e. the lag is better with an original ROM?
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No need to flash back to original rom. Once new rom is flashed all aspects of previous are lost unless you use backup software and restore registry changes.
Im getting an X1 tommorow and i will do a lot of mods and stuff.
But what should i do first there is so much to do im confused on what i should do, what did you do first with your x1? If you could post a list of what you did when you got an X1that would be great
(p.s if you have time to post links to threads it will be much apreciated)
Configure it. Go through all settings available and set everything to your convenience. Then set up your e-mail addresses and favorites in Opera/IE. If using a custom ROM is an option for you, don't do too much until you've decided on a ROM and then flash that.
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Configure it. Go through all settings available and set everything to your convenience. Then set up your e-mail addresses and favorites in Opera/IE. If using a custom ROM is an option for you, don't do too much until you've decided on a ROM and then flash that.
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Why do i need a ROM? shouldnt i update it via sony ericsson update service, or am i getting confusedc
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Why do i need a ROM? shouldnt i update it via sony ericsson update service, or am i getting confusedc
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Yes you should. But if you're buying a new one it should be up to date. Anyway, many users here build their custom ROMs optimized for speed or with many applications, more internal space because of less annoying features (No panels for example) and so on. Personally I am not using any of these. Other people here are crazy about them, though. Know that you don't get warranty if your phone has a custom ROM. So if ever there's a problem with your X1 you will have to be able to flash back to the original ROM otherwise you will not have warranty. Keep that in mind if you want to do it. I'm not telling you to.
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Yes you should. But if you're buying a new one it should be up to date. Anyway, many users here build their custom ROMs optimized for speed or with many applications, more internal space because of less annoying features (No panels for example) and so on. Personally I am not using any of these. Other people here are crazy about them, though. Know that you don't get warranty if your phone has a custom ROM. So if ever there's a problem with your X1 you will have to be able to flash back to the original ROM otherwise you will not have warranty. Keep that in mind if you want to do it. I'm not telling you to.
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KK thanks, don't think i will bother with roms.
You definately should...! I thought I wouldnt, but Im a flashaholic, touchflo is much better than xperia home screen, and you still get panels, as is titanium form winmo6.5! Definately worth flashing one with both, then going into settings, today, items tab and selecting either touchflo or windows default! The two are different. I would recommend Itje, Agent47 or EnergyRom if you prefer touchflo (although many have winmo6.5 only versions) or Gtrab for winmo6.5! Seriously so worth it! Hardspl first, and read all ofthe instructions carefully and you cant go wrong, then use the rom collection to flash back to what you had, then soft spl and send it back if you donmt like it or need a repair, no fuss! Twenty minutes work or so! They are just twimmed and improved versions of the original xperia interface. On all but one landscape is good, keyboar works etc etc etc!
Then check out rotastrains mods for touchflo if you go touchflo, or check out the winmo6.5 goodies page for some seriously cool ideas. Try gtrab's panel library for custom panels, beta and rare ones! It will make your xperia amazing!
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You definately should...! I thought I wouldnt, but Im a flashaholic, touchflo is much better than xperia home screen, and you still get panels, as is titanium form winmo6.5! Definately worth flashing one with both, then going into settings, today, items tab and selecting either touchflo or windows default! The two are different. I would recommend Itje, Agent47 or EnergyRom if you prefer touchflo (although many have winmo6.5 only versions) or Gtrab for winmo6.5! Seriously so worth it! Hardspl first, and read all ofthe instructions carefully and you cant go wrong, then use the rom collection to flash back to what you had, then soft spl and send it back if you donmt like it or need a repair, no fuss! Twenty minutes work or so! They are just twimmed and improved versions of the original xperia interface. On all but one landscape is good, keyboar works etc etc etc!
Then check out rotastrains mods for touchflo if you go touchflo, or check out the winmo6.5 goodies page for some seriously cool ideas. Try gtrab's panel library for custom panels, beta and rare ones! It will make your xperia amazing!
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Do i need roms to install panels (ie You tube)?? I want to have a go at creating my own panels.
1st thing I'd do it download and install the Audiopara CAB so you can at least hear the thing ring. (There are a few threads around here on it).
http://www.wotid.com/xperia/apps/Audiopara.cab
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Do i need roms to install panels (ie You tube)?? I want to have a go at creating my own panels.
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No! You don't need it 'cos panels are standard X1 feature!
As for me, I would say TouchFlo 3D is just a esthetic crap,
compared to SE's homescreens, but it's a matter of taste.
As for ROM's, as well as they make great things,
they also perform unexpected problems so consider that.
Usually things are under the cover and sometimes it's very hard to find
a solution.
I work on SE's ROM, no cooking,
and the device works really well.
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1st thing I'd do it download and install the Audiopara CAB so you can at least hear the thing ring. (There are a few threads around here on it).
http://www.wotid.com/xperia/apps/Audiopara.cab
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Depends on rings mate.
My phone screams as hell.
There needs to be a dummies guide to this. I can't make sense of it all. I find literally hundreds of ROMs and then find dozens of builds for each one. I can't take it anymore! All I want is something that removes the bloatware, runs faster than the stock Tilt 2 ROM, doesn't lose any capabilities such as keyboards, etc, lets SPB MS 3.5 run faster, and lets me tether.
Why don't the chef's at least provide a simple list of their ROMs and what they do, what works better and what doesn't work with that particular ROM? I've been digging through this site for two weeks now and I'm not even any closer to knowing what to flash now than when I started. I know from other searches that the Mods tend to close requests like this, but I'm really stumped and I really have tried. I'm not an idiot by any means. I do understand that these are being provided for free and that I should be appreciative....and I am. But it seems to me that even the devs themselves would benefit from this so they wouldn't duplicate each others work and would be able to better track what they are doing.
Anyways, any suggestions for the ROM to do what I want?
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There needs to be a dummies guide to this. I can't make sense of it all. I find literally hundreds of ROMs and then find dozens of builds for each one. I can't take it anymore! All I want is something that removes the bloatware, runs faster than the stock Tilt 2 ROM, doesn't lose any capabilities such as keyboards, etc, lets SPB MS 3.5 run faster, and lets me tether.
Why don't the chef's at least provide a simple list of their ROMs and what they do, what works better and what doesn't work with that particular ROM? I've been digging through this site for two weeks now and I'm not even any closer to knowing what to flash now than when I started. I know from other searches that the Mods tend to close requests like this, but I'm really stumped and I really have tried. I'm not an idiot by any means. I do understand that these are being provided for free and that I should be appreciative....and I am. But it seems to me that even the devs themselves would benefit from this so they wouldn't duplicate each others work and would be able to better track what they are doing.
Anyways, any suggestions for the ROM to do what I want?
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What you do is flash one and see if you like it. If not, it is quite simple to flash another.
Try the Titanium 2 Jun NRG ROM and see what you think. It has no Sense version at all, which increases the storage memory size.
http://www.fileserve.com/list/X9nQc65
EDIT: I am assuming that you have read the "Flashing for NOOB" and the "Hard SPL" threads, you need both to be able to flash a custom ROM.
I have pretty much tried all of the ROMs but I reallly like only 2 ROMs. The best one for me is Cell Evo V7 (23541) (the link to thread. I have just flashed Josh's ROM. n i havent had any problem yet. I use the Sense 2.1. (its in my sig) I think 2.5 is still very buggy. so that maybe somethin u may wanna try out. I think the evo one is the most stable! but this is all just my own opinion. u may or may not like them!
Thanks for the tips. I have read the pages you mentioned and I understand that flashing in itself is a simple process. But for me, it's not just the flashing. I have to flash, install SPB MS and all of my apps, setup my weather, my exchange server and sync my contacts, configure active-sync, apply all my tweaks and then the phone is ready to use. Then if I don't like a ROM because it is slow or buggy, I'll have to do it all again......
At least that's how I picture it. Now if you are telling me that I don't have to go through all that each time, then I'll be a happy camper, but I suspect I am right on this.
What is a "sense" version that you are referring to?
Also, if you could explain the difference between a light, full and normal build that would be nice.
And what the deal is with finding matching "radios" whatever that is about.
And what is a "manila"?
And the problem with keyboards???? Do most ROMS have trouble using the keyboard? What other issues might I encounter while trying to use the normal functions of the device?
There's a lot of jargon here and I just don't see a single place that explains it all.
kfreels said:
Thanks for the tips. I have read the pages you mentioned and I understand that flashing in itself is a simple process. But for me, it's not just the flashing. I have to flash, install SPB MS and all of my apps, setup my weather, my exchange server and sync my contacts, configure active-sync, apply all my tweaks and then the phone is ready to use. Then if I don't like a ROM because it is slow or buggy, I'll have to do it all again......
At least that's how I picture it. Now if you are telling me that I don't have to go through all that each time, then I'll be a happy camper, but I suspect I am right on this.
What is a "sense" version that you are referring to?
Also, if you could explain the difference between a light, full and normal build that would be nice.
And what the deal is with finding matching "radios" whatever that is about.
And what is a "manila"?
And the problem with keyboards???? Do most ROMS have trouble using the keyboard? What other issues might I encounter while trying to use the normal functions of the device?
There's a lot of jargon here and I just don't see a single place that explains it all.
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Manilla = Sense. "Sense" is the name that HTC uses for their UI. There are two major versions, 2.1 and 2.5 (newest). There is also an older UI called TF3D (TouchFlo 3D).
Matching radios refers to flashing your radio with different firmware. The device has ROM versions, which is what everyone is referring to, and the Radio has a different version. Some people prefer a certain radio, some ROMs recommend a certain radio. I'm using NRG, and have never updated my radio version.
Keyboards. Most ROMS will not automatically map your keyboard (AT&T and T-Mobile have different mappings - the exception is a ROM built for a specific carrier). The reason is simple - the Chef doesn't know what carrier you are using! On the NRG ROMs, there is a tool included to "provision" your device for your carrier; this fixes the keyboard. Or you can do a search and find the right keyboard .cab file for your device.
- Light, medium, and full. I personally don't use these terms, but my definition would be as follows. Light is a ROM that has very little added functionality other than what Microsoft provided with the operating system. Full is a ROM (like NRG) that has lots of custom stuff baked into the ROM - extra utilities and etc., which are useful to you (in the Chef's opinion). A medium would be somewhere in between.
I would include the stock ROM as a "Full" ROM, except that in their case a lot of their software is "bloatware", which means stuff they added because they could, or they had some kind of deal with a particular company, etc. It is called "bloatware" because it seems to serve only the purpose of making the ROM harder to use and cluttering up the menu system with lots of useless stuff - bloated.
Are you a happier camper?
two of your best bets are gonna be the
e2 rom and the nrg version of your choise
e2 rom is almost exatly like the att stock but a lot sexier
jdm_labrat said:
two of your best bets are gonna be the
e2 rom and the nrg version of your choise
e2 rom is almost exatly like the att stock but a lot sexier
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Umm, speaking personally, I'm not sure I want a "sexy" TP2!
Ah. That explains a lot. Thanks for the info. Maybe one day when I'm no longer a dummy I'll write a dummies guide. Until then, thanks for the tips.
Hi,
I had the same problem as you, I just wanted a stock rom without all the extra stuff that htc provides, I wanted to be simple, fast and stable, after flashing a lot of ROM I decided to take the problem in my own hands so I started learning how to cook my own ROM, you have a very good guide about how to do that here.
After reading and understanding this guide you can create your own ROMs just the way you like it.
Maybe just like me you will not succeed for the first time, but in the end you will have a ROM cooked by you and will suite all your needs.
Good luck!
So, I'm starting to look at some of the ROMs people have done, but not really finding what I'm looking for....
I want something that has:
* HTC Sense 2016 or so
* No modified taskbar icons etc
* No modified menus etc etc
* No modified splash screens / welcomehead etc...
* Whatever Windows Mobile build.
* Stock look & feel
I guess my idea of a good ROM is a stock HTC ROM with an updated Sense etc. I'm only looking as I'm having a few issues with Sense hanging after various actions.I can access the start menu etc, but no SMS/email/settings etc without rebooting. This is on the stock SEA ROM.
CRCinAU said:
So, I'm starting to look at some of the ROMs people have done, but not really finding what I'm looking for....
I want something that has:
* HTC Sense 2016 or so
* No modified taskbar icons etc
* No modified menus etc etc
* No modified splash screens / welcomehead etc...
* Whatever Windows Mobile build.
* Stock look & feel
I guess my idea of a good ROM is a stock HTC ROM with an updated Sense etc. I'm only looking as I'm having a few issues with Sense hanging after various actions.I can access the start menu etc, but no SMS/email/settings etc without rebooting. This is on the stock SEA ROM.
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try energy sense cookie. he's got many flavors so check out his thread. otherwise, just try a hard reset and check for updates for ur origional rom.
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try energy sense cookie. he's got many flavors so check out his thread. otherwise, just try a hard reset and check for updates for ur origional rom.
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I did look at these ROMs, but they seem to miss multiple points that I made above. From customised menus to icky icons :\
Also, I'm not a fan of the start menu being moved to the bottom and the 'button' style hotkey things at the bottom...
Try my S2 ROM ShowLITE version. Pretty stock and Sense 2016 on board.
Buildup to be memory friendly.
CRCinAU said:
I did look at these ROMs, but they seem to miss multiple points that I made above. From customised menus to icky icons :\
Also, I'm not a fan of the start menu being moved to the bottom and the 'button' style hotkey things at the bottom...
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well you seem to miss the point of these custom roms. they arent made to really be the exact same as the stoc rom but more optimized... theyre usually changed graphically in ways such as icons and task bars. i suggest just reloading your stock rom. these custom roms are usually faster and more stable. but you have to get used to them. they are custom for a reason and its usually made for specific to the creators wants. so it will most likely be reskinned and much different looking.
Try deepshining...it is my favourite and by far the best there is for our Rhodium.
If you want a review, read this article first.
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well you seem to miss the point of these custom roms. they arent made to really be the exact same as the stoc rom but more optimized... theyre usually changed graphically in ways such as icons and task bars. i suggest just reloading your stock rom. these custom roms are usually faster and more stable. but you have to get used to them. they are custom for a reason and its usually made for specific to the creators wants. so it will most likely be reskinned and much different looking.
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Having been around here for over 3 years, I know exactly the point of custom ROMs - however there is always a place for a ROM that is almost the same as a stock - but with updates. Mainly this takes the role of bug fixes etc. It's usually also good if some of the stock software is stripped out to give the user the choice.
My ROMs for Hermes were exactly that - stock looking with critical functionality the same - but with bug fixes etc...
Hi CRCinAU , I have been looking for a ROM that has exactly the points that you have mentioned above. Sadly, i haven't found anyone.
Simplicity ROM, in my opinion is the most similar to what you mention.
Hopefully, someone will make a ROM like what you ask.
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Try my S2 ROM ShowLITE version. Pretty stock and Sense 2016 on board.
Buildup to be memory friendly.
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I installed ShowLITE and quite like it. I am curious though, do you have this with the HTC Messenging for SMS/MMS instead of ArcSoft? I like the HTC client much better...
Oh, and also to put the start menu back to 3 columns instead of 4.. 4 is a little too small for my fingers!
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Try my S2 ROM ShowLITE version. Pretty stock and Sense 2016 on board.
Buildup to be memory friendly.
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+1. I current run Jacko's rom with cht beta 2.0 cooked in and it is off the hook. I can modify it whichever way i want and still have about 90 mb of memory constantly available. I can't wait for his new rom when it comes out. It is the best rom i've had since I started flashing. Beside it being stable and bug free, it is fast and responsive.
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Hi CRCinAU , I have been looking for a ROM that has exactly the points that you have mentioned above. Sadly, i haven't found anyone.
Simplicity ROM, in my opinion is the most similar to what you mention.
Hopefully, someone will make a ROM like what you ask.
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I would have to agree. I've been messing with ROMS since I had an HTC 8525. The NRG ROMs are made for people who like the flash and bling so to speak. They have many add ons and gadgets that people have loved. The Simplicity is a basic ROM. Not many add ons, great memory after flash and great battery life. My question to you though is; why not take the stock ROM, use a program that will allow yo to take out programs inside the ROM (SK Tools is a great one.) And download a good copy of say CHT-Cookie Home Tab (When you download this, you will NEED the CHTE-Cookie Home Tab Editor if you choose this one.) Look around, find a good copy of Sense and install it into a stock ROM. Bam, problem fixed!
Well I want one of the faster roms, I installed an Energy rom and my phone is so slow it's unbearable. Any suggestions?
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Well I want one of the faster roms, I installed an Energy rom and my phone is so slow it's unbearable. Any suggestions?
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NRG needs to be customized to work faster. I find it very fast. But I don't use all of the tabs, and I overclock my CPU to 710.
Did you install the newest version, listed in my signature?
Also if You interest on trying stock like and self customizable ROM, try kwbr ROM : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811121
fast, stable and good battery life..
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NRG needs to be customized to work faster. I find it very fast. But I don't use all of the tabs, and I overclock my CPU to 710.
Did you install the newest version, listed in my signature?
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How do I customize it to make it faster? Where is this overclocking app at, and how do I remove some of the tabs?
About tabs, you can disable some, just swipe to settings tab on HTC Sense, choose "personalize" then "Home screen tabs", uncheck tabs you want to remove.
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Well I want one of the faster roms, I installed an Energy rom and my phone is so slow it's unbearable. Any suggestions?
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I just flashed my custom ROM to the NRG ROM of 14th October and I don't have any issues with slowness...
My phone is faster than every before.
Did you flashed the latest version of NRG rom?
I'm suprised you're having issues with NRG's ROM, I find it very fast.
If you want to try overclocking, check out the utilities in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698374
If you want a fast rom, use a valkyre or jackoss
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How do I customize it to make it faster? Where is this overclocking app at, and how do I remove some of the tabs?
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Where to start? The following is a subset of my phone settings. I've been tweaking them for months, and I would be hard pressed to provide a full list.
The OC app is at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698374
As to customizing, the setting tab will allow you to remove the tabs you don't use. I found that I actually only use 4 of them. The rest just take up memory.
I also use BsB Tweaks (in the Tools folder) to set a high glyph and IP cache.
The other thing to do is to go into the Settings and change the start menu to be the Sense version. This will give you and extra 30 Mb or so of memory, and this will make the device faster. Do this step last, because it will be difficult to get to the NRG Tools menu unless you revert back to the default WM start menus.
EDIT: But you should be aware that NRG is not customized for speed. There are faster ROMs available. But NRG has lots of nice stuff, and the latest operating systems and programs.
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Well I want one of the faster roms, I installed an Energy rom and my phone is so slow it's unbearable. Any suggestions?
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jackos rom without a doubt. --->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=632617
Keep in mind that it usually takes some time for a newly flashed ROM to "settle in". The performance you see right away is not indicitive of how the ROM will perform long term. Maybe files are still being setup? Not really sure why this is so. But don't freak out until you've used the ROM for a couple hours. Plus the battery meter will not be accurate. It needs to be calibrated by charging the phone to 100%, then down to 30%, and repeat a couple times.
If you've been using the ROM for a while, and done a few of the tweaks to streamline performance as other have suggested, its possible it was a bad flash. Task29 and start over.
But its also possible that a more lightweight ROM is for you. Energy is a nice balance of performance, aesthetics, and features. But some like to sacrifice some eye candy for a more lightweight ROM, like Jackos that someone else suggested.
I've used the EnergyROMs on my TP2, as well as Simplicity and Jackos, all are great roms. EnergyROMs have many cooked in useful apps and awesome features, Simplicity is lighter and well.. simpler than Energy and Jackos has amazing memory management and the best ROM if you're going for WM6.5.0.
I am a sucker for speed, and the fastest you can go is stock WM6.5 with no HTC Sense. I'm currently using Jackos SleekBasic with TouchFlo3D, just flashed yesterday, IMO its faster than all ROMs I tried except stock WM, its not really pretty and not many features, but I can live with it. Good batt life too...
OndraSter's WM 6.5 TF3D ROM is the fastest ROM I have ever used. Check it out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642956&highlight=OndraSter
Jacko's is by far the cleanist Ive seen its actually functional and has 110mb free after 2nd reboot... Great rom's.. Not a nrg fan anymore either.. especially cause he doesnt bother to actually test them on the devices he makes them for.
I used a lot of ROMs from this forum, and I can confirm that the Jackos is the fastest and stablest that I tried (I'm actually using the smartmove flavour).
Ondraster's also is quite fast and stable, but I find that jackos looks better