Well I want one of the faster roms, I installed an Energy rom and my phone is so slow it's unbearable. Any suggestions?
Frankie3521 said:
Well I want one of the faster roms, I installed an Energy rom and my phone is so slow it's unbearable. Any suggestions?
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NRG needs to be customized to work faster. I find it very fast. But I don't use all of the tabs, and I overclock my CPU to 710.
Did you install the newest version, listed in my signature?
Also if You interest on trying stock like and self customizable ROM, try kwbr ROM : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811121
fast, stable and good battery life..
stevedebi said:
NRG needs to be customized to work faster. I find it very fast. But I don't use all of the tabs, and I overclock my CPU to 710.
Did you install the newest version, listed in my signature?
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How do I customize it to make it faster? Where is this overclocking app at, and how do I remove some of the tabs?
About tabs, you can disable some, just swipe to settings tab on HTC Sense, choose "personalize" then "Home screen tabs", uncheck tabs you want to remove.
Frankie3521 said:
Well I want one of the faster roms, I installed an Energy rom and my phone is so slow it's unbearable. Any suggestions?
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I just flashed my custom ROM to the NRG ROM of 14th October and I don't have any issues with slowness...
My phone is faster than every before.
Did you flashed the latest version of NRG rom?
I'm suprised you're having issues with NRG's ROM, I find it very fast.
If you want to try overclocking, check out the utilities in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698374
If you want a fast rom, use a valkyre or jackoss
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How do I customize it to make it faster? Where is this overclocking app at, and how do I remove some of the tabs?
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Where to start? The following is a subset of my phone settings. I've been tweaking them for months, and I would be hard pressed to provide a full list.
The OC app is at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698374
As to customizing, the setting tab will allow you to remove the tabs you don't use. I found that I actually only use 4 of them. The rest just take up memory.
I also use BsB Tweaks (in the Tools folder) to set a high glyph and IP cache.
The other thing to do is to go into the Settings and change the start menu to be the Sense version. This will give you and extra 30 Mb or so of memory, and this will make the device faster. Do this step last, because it will be difficult to get to the NRG Tools menu unless you revert back to the default WM start menus.
EDIT: But you should be aware that NRG is not customized for speed. There are faster ROMs available. But NRG has lots of nice stuff, and the latest operating systems and programs.
Frankie3521 said:
Well I want one of the faster roms, I installed an Energy rom and my phone is so slow it's unbearable. Any suggestions?
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jackos rom without a doubt. --->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=632617
Keep in mind that it usually takes some time for a newly flashed ROM to "settle in". The performance you see right away is not indicitive of how the ROM will perform long term. Maybe files are still being setup? Not really sure why this is so. But don't freak out until you've used the ROM for a couple hours. Plus the battery meter will not be accurate. It needs to be calibrated by charging the phone to 100%, then down to 30%, and repeat a couple times.
If you've been using the ROM for a while, and done a few of the tweaks to streamline performance as other have suggested, its possible it was a bad flash. Task29 and start over.
But its also possible that a more lightweight ROM is for you. Energy is a nice balance of performance, aesthetics, and features. But some like to sacrifice some eye candy for a more lightweight ROM, like Jackos that someone else suggested.
I've used the EnergyROMs on my TP2, as well as Simplicity and Jackos, all are great roms. EnergyROMs have many cooked in useful apps and awesome features, Simplicity is lighter and well.. simpler than Energy and Jackos has amazing memory management and the best ROM if you're going for WM6.5.0.
I am a sucker for speed, and the fastest you can go is stock WM6.5 with no HTC Sense. I'm currently using Jackos SleekBasic with TouchFlo3D, just flashed yesterday, IMO its faster than all ROMs I tried except stock WM, its not really pretty and not many features, but I can live with it. Good batt life too...
OndraSter's WM 6.5 TF3D ROM is the fastest ROM I have ever used. Check it out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642956&highlight=OndraSter
Jacko's is by far the cleanist Ive seen its actually functional and has 110mb free after 2nd reboot... Great rom's.. Not a nrg fan anymore either.. especially cause he doesnt bother to actually test them on the devices he makes them for.
I used a lot of ROMs from this forum, and I can confirm that the Jackos is the fastest and stablest that I tried (I'm actually using the smartmove flavour).
Ondraster's also is quite fast and stable, but I find that jackos looks better
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Hi, is it normal that srooling in programs is slower against other devices? For example my brothers Asus P535 has perfect speed, if he moves slider quickly, no problem, no lag, absolutely smooth, bud diamond isnt. Why?
Try doing the tweaks in the tweak thread for a start or if you want flash to another rom ie the TLR rom is pretty fast and tf3d is quite smooth and fast on that rom.
Have a look in the rom section of the forum and see which one sounds good to you.
Yes scrolling in "Programs menu" is reaaally slow ... compared to my previous 200 mhz original Touch it's ten times slower and almost impossible to control it with thumb because it takes a lot of time 'till it scrolls down...
I solved this by creating sub folders in programs menu so I don't need to scroll...
Maybe this is because of VGA display and slow GDI support, but I think this really needs some improvements or tweaks.
Any of existing tweaks I tried don't help - Glyph cache does nothing and Fatfs/Filters cache broke my system so I needed to hard reset... And as I can see this filesystem improvements have no influence on graphics performance...
ROM 1.37.401.3 speeds thinks up little bit, but I think windows GDI performance is still very bad on Diamond...
Is GDI accelerated in other ROM? Or can it be solved with some tweak to original 1.37.401.3 ROM?
Yes the scrolling speed is a real issue, it's laggy and sometimes not responsive.. This is a real pain in my ass because I'm coming from a 1st gen iPhone which had extremely smooth scrolling.
i must be lucky...my scrolling is so fast i wish sometimes to know how to make it slower because i can hardly have time to read the name of the programs before i stop...i usually have to scroll back..
no tweaks applied only bepe's last ROM....the biggest tweak of all
Any chance that HTC can solve this problem? I mean - can´t hardware handle it or just bad software?
Well the newer roms have the newest version of TF3d so maybe you want to try and flash to one of them...im running TLR rom version 2 and its fast and tf3d is smooth as silk although it will still lag but not as much as the stock rom does.
I just hope that HTC will make some ROM with major performance incerase, becou HW is not bad. Like my A701 mio. First uséable ROM came out after a year.
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Well the newer roms have the newest version of TF3d so maybe you want to try and flash to one of them...im running TLR rom version 2 and its fast and tf3d is smooth as silk although it will still lag but not as much as the stock rom does.
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I think we are not talking about TF3D but about basic scrolling in WM - see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiVRouS6HwE and on this video it is not so bad - the more programs you have the slower it is...
When I flash the Bepe's ROM can I then flash back to 1.37.401.3 without losing warranty? Do I need to flash back original SPL before and if so - is it available?
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I just hope that HTC will make some ROM with major performance incerase, becou HW is not bad. Like my A701 mio. First uséable ROM came out after a year.
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You might want to check out someone1234 post in the tweak thread above...hes figured out a way to shorten the lag between scrolling screens...give it a try and see if it helps.
Yes I was refering to basic scrolling in WM, not TF3D.. My TF3D is running very smooth with no noticeable lag.
We must hope that some new ROM will solve this. Anyway, same thing the HTC logo after start or power off. Why it is thare if it is not played smoothly? I know this is becou os phone quick start, but anyway, the should gave a picture there.
Huey85 said:
Yes I was refering to basic scrolling in WM, not TF3D.. My TF3D is running very smooth with no noticeable lag.
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i dont tink its a issue htc can resolve -> its a os problem -> so its a ms problem.
Do you? I dont know how WM6.1, but my last device WM 5 had 5 times faster scrooling. Is diamond scrooling speed on other devices from other brands? Some E-ten? Mio? etc? I think this is exactly kind of issu HTC can solve very easily, if they would want.
Can someone with other than official-production ROM tell us, if scrolling and GDI performance is better?
Thanks
Yes I tried TLR ROM and it is not. But some good news, I found articles about same slow speed in other devices after upgrade on WM 6. I found some tweak too, but it helped only bit. I wil continue, if I sort out this problem, i will tell you how.
Hi guys,
I am getting an X1 in a few days and would like to know opinions on what the most stable 6.5 ROM out there at the moment is. Also some comments about speed and usability compared to stock would be appreciated!
Hopefully others will find this info useful, too, so please keep it civil.
-Oobly
well i think the most stable would be either one of itje's or agent_47's., the ones with manila 2.1 though because the leo versions are still in beta.
one of the best customised would be NRG's. of course being the flashaholic that i am i switch between all three for every new rom thats posted
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Yeah, I know. Sorry about that, don't know how to delete the other thread.
Try....V-Lite 4.3 by mobilevu
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505214
This guy knows his kitchen, ive been using his roms since he started posting his work. I havn't had any problems regarding speed and stability
For me:
NEW V-LITE 4.3 COBALT HARDCORE EDITION FINAL (Stable)
The Energy-ROM with manila 2.1 is very stable and responsive. In my opinion the best, since speed is good for almost every program, many useful tweaks and programs included. I've tried most manila ROMs and found this one the best on all fronts. I must say I haven't tried the V-LITE COBALT yet.
Make sure you don't compare titanium with manila ROMs
And then also make a difference between manila 2.1 and 2.5
V-Lite is a very good non-manila ROM, but stayed on 23004
Valkyrie is state of the art, both with and w/o manila
Energy is eye-candy with some little bumps (video-lag) for Titanium.
Which bumps have you encountered in the Energy ROM if I may ask, haven't found one yet. Even the manila 2.5 is working smooth on most fronts except the SMS app is a little crappy, but I can work with it.
Thanks for the replies guys, keep em coming! The more opinions the better.
I see Agent_47's Valkyrie 2.9 FS has reworked OEM drivers and neo2007 3D drivers. He seems to post fixes pretty quickly in response to bug reports, too.
V-Lite also looks good... apparently stable and very functional while still looking very nice.
So many ROMs, posted so often...
oh boy! I think I am going to become a flashing addict....
@ bjornkopp: video and youtube lagging, display doesn't turn off during call (no known to me tweak works), ring sound and vibra may be off, battery eater
--> It's my current ROM nevertheless ;-)
grisha1 said:
@ bjornkopp: video and youtube lagging, display doesn't turn off during call (no known to me tweak works), ring sound and vibra may be off, battery eater
--> It's my current ROM nevertheless ;-)
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Same for me: despite all those, i love this rom (still using the 05.08.2009 version, as this is bug free).
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Hi All,
Just want to say a big thanks to all the great developers out there such as Dutty, Miri, topix, energyrom, xannytech.. etc.
Without you guys I think I would have sold my HD a long time ago.
I think I have flashed my Hd almost every day or two, since I had my hands on it. As there has always been a bug or two in every rom.
I have been a long time fan of Dutty's rom. But now that its stopped at the holy grail r0, the builds have been updated. Its great to have used his roms, but its still not perfect. So recently I've started looking again at other cookers.
I've been using WM 6.5 for a long time and I don't think that will change. But recently I have tried every combination wm6.1/m2.1, wm6.5/m2.1 wm6.5/m2.5 of different cookers, and tested. To see whether I have been missing out on anything.
I've finally come to a conclusion that wm6.5/m2.1 was the most stable and smoothest rom around. That brings me to Miri's roms. I've tried the wm6.5/2.5 v18 and wm6.5/m2.1 v35.
Miri's Wm6.5/2.5 v18 was great, but like every m2.5, it is still abit slow. and since I dont like the new HTC messenger, I would lose out on the mms. Well I dont really miss mms that much, but I've been without it for 6month+. And if I try to install Opera 10 on it, my pop up menu's were all screwed up and its one of those things I couldn't accept.
So lastly I went and tried Miri's wm6.5/m2.1 v35. And I must say, I think this is the one. There are a few bugs there, but I will post the links down to fix them.
First is the Miri's Rom: //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493911
Before flashing Miri's rom there are a few things I would like to note
1. lockscreen delay that you would most likely want to fix by adding a file into your storage card.
link here //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587931
2. Pagepool changer to make the rom amazing I've tried countless sizes, but I've come to a conclusion that setting my pagepool number to 0 was the most effective.
link here //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323269
Now you can flash the rom
After installing, you would notice on the settings tab that the line is missing between communications and customise tabs. And the line between g-sensor would flicker when you scroll down to it.
This is the list of things I would install:
1. Autolock - install csdevctrl.6.5.cab and play with the settings to your liking.
link here //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386451
2. Chinese support - Just a unicode to read asian languages,
link here //rapidshare.com/files/135293786/uhei00m-gray.cab.html
3. 2d/3d driver by Neos2007 - make wonders for games on HD and also seems to fix the line problems on the settings tab.
link here //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496528
4. Gfxboost by Chainfire - This is abit complicated, it doesn't boost the graphics, it's more like it smoothens the display. So its more pleasant..
read more here //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509704
5. Opera 10 beta - This is sooo much better than any other browsers. When you load a webpage, it used to show those annoying blocks that hasn't loaded. Not anymore! anyways no harm to test right? Just flash hasn't been implemented into it yet. But i dont mind..
download here //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
6. HD Tweak - Im sure most ppl know this one. I just use this to change the left and right keys on the home screen. And turn off the sms sent notification. Thats about it
Just a note, although there is autolock function in HD tweak, it doesnt work that well. As soon as the backlight goes off, it doesnt come back on till you push the power button and back again.
link here //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452505
Lastly: Im not a fan of the HTC task manager. So I normally turn it off by disabling the quick menu on today screen tick box. And just shortcut in programs tab to MS task manager.
Thats all I had to share
Hope you find your rom that works for you. This one just happens to work perfectly for me..
I use KWBR's rom.
I didn't choose Miri's as the log is not clear.
Energy rom is also quite impressive I would say.
Could you elaborate the better side of the Miri rom from your view?
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2. Pagepool changer to make the rom amazing I've tried countless sizes, but I've come to a conclusion that setting my pagepool number to 0 was the most effective.
link here //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323269
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Page Pool to ZERO??
are you sure?
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Page Pool to ZERO??
are you sure?
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i have read somewhere that if you change pp to 0 windows takes over the pp so it is possible and have seen a cook, cook his roms whit pp on 0
im trying to cook myself and also gonna give it a go and see what happens
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yellovv23 said:
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2. Pagepool changer to make the rom amazing I've tried countless sizes, but I've come to a conclusion that setting my pagepool number to 0 was the most effective.
link here //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323269
Page Pool to ZERO??
are you sure?
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if PP is set to 0, most probably the OS will adjust according to usage...
actually now i'm looking for stable WM6.5.x with manila/Sense 2.1 (as close to stock as possible, something like wajk's blackSTONEhenge), but most of recent ROM comes with Manila/Sense 2.5, which is a bit tough on the HD...not to mention lock-ups problem, even those who has flashed custom ROMs in HD2 is having some problems...when that time comes, i'm more than happy to stick with kwbr's topix 3.2.5 (might flash to the latest version as it comes with EzInput 2.1, which i like a lot)...
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KayK said:
if PP is set to 0, most probably the OS will adjust according to usage...
actually now i'm looking for stable WM6.5.x with manila/Sense 2.1 (as close to stock as possible, something like wajk's blackSTONEhenge), but most of recent ROM comes with Manila/Sense 2.5, which is a bit tough on the HD...not to mention lock-ups problem, even those who has flashed custom ROMs in HD2 is having some problems...when that time comes, i'm more than happy to stick with kwbr's topix 3.2.5 (might flash to the latest version as it comes with EzInput 2.1, which i like a lot)...
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Lockups issue appears to have been fixed, see this thread
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As much as I appreciate your comments, this is obviously your opinion and a lot of users may agree or disagree.
I'll continue to leave this thread open to see where it goes for the time being
Hello.
Please, give me advise, which Windows 6.5.5.x rom for my Blackstone, without Manilla, Sense, TouchFlo...Just clean WM.
Thanks!
Konig ala Jack said:
Hello.
Please, give me advise, which Windows 6.5.5.x rom for my Blackstone, without Manilla, Sense, TouchFlo...Just clean WM.
Thanks!
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I think Miri's v.36 Standard Edition is a clean WM, without manila.
I don't know something else.
I'am also interested for a clean WM 6.5, so if anyone else knows can inform us.
i'm one for this pool too!!!!
manilla and sense are not friendly of dualsim users....
perhaps this one ... that's my actual rom, don't like manila or sense interface too !
http://htcpedia.com/miri_wm21889_premium_without_manila_v35/soft/htc-blackstone-rom.html?page=1
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I've re-opened this thread for time being to see where it leads
Look here....
h**p://w*w.htc-developers.de/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=5662
It's a German ROM..
(Sorry off the frac link. Admin don't want to post a link)
Mark
kwbr's rhodium
i use kwbr's rhodium without sense. i allways go back after flashing other roms.. ;p
Hi, i'm using a very clean rom in long time, for my experience may be this is the best clean and stable rom.
It's name is : johnpatcher_Geranium_1.0_WWE.
I'm for this thread too searching for 23529 clean rom. Help please tnx
i'm extremely satisfied with the Energy ROM's Titanium version...
gregoryn said:
I'm for this thread too searching for 23529 clean rom. Help please tnx
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I have test to cook with the 23529 and also with the new 23534. Both are not stable. When you want a fast an stable ROM take the 28205 or the 28223or the not so fingerfriendly but fast 21892.
Mark....
im using miris latest rom without manila, for me it runs fast and all the functions work fine - battery seems to last well also. I haven't tried any other roms though so others are probably very good as well, i'll probably wait for wm7 now before I flash again.
mista.maja said:
i'm extremely satisfied with the Energy ROM's Titanium version...
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How is battery life with Energy's Titanium? I use phoenix with titanium and battery life is way too bad... Tried all power management settings, no difference...
Could you please tell me:
1. Available program RAM available after booting and
2. Battery consumption since full charge (mine goes from 100% to 72% in just 3.5 hours while in standby!!!)
drizo72 said:
2. Battery consumption since full charge (mine goes from 100% to 72% in just 3.5 hours while in standby!!!)
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I noticed the high battery consumption on Energy roms too, until I noticed the screen brightness was on full, seems to behave better when put on auto
Hope that helps
Konig ala Jack said:
Hello.
Please, give me advise, which Windows 6.5.5.x rom for my Blackstone, without Manilla, Sense, TouchFlo...Just clean WM.
Thanks!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634514
The request is a ''6.5.X'' ROM not ''6.5''..
I Think, this is the best (without manilla&Titanium)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634514
mista.maja said:
i'm extremely satisfied with the Energy ROM's Titanium version...
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I've used that but went back to Miri's v35 ROM... Much better, no bugs and very efficient use of the shortcuts in Microsoft's shell - not apparent in the Energy ROM.
Have yet to be more satisfied with a very functional phone and not missing the tedious Manilla as of yet; although the program shortcuts on the 'Home' screen would be welcomed. Texting is perfect, minus the better looking Manilla version. Aesthetics over usability...
Shame Miri didn't continue this in the v36 build...
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How is battery life with Energy's Titanium? I use phoenix with titanium and battery life is way too bad... Tried all power management settings, no difference...
Could you please tell me:
1. Available program RAM available after booting and
2. Battery consumption since full charge (mine goes from 100% to 72% in just 3.5 hours while in standby!!!)
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And to add this for Miri's v35, as I mentioned before, fresh reboot RAM usage is at 38% with a wallpaper and battery consumption is the best I have used, charging every 2 days. Just over every day if I indulge in WiFi browsing.
I'm definately up for more roms without manila/sense. I think the work that all the cooks do is fantastic but just find manila uses too much system resources, causing problems for certain apps. I know I may be a little strange but I actually really like the windows titanium plugin.
There does only seems to be the energy rom that is 6.5.x, Currently using a Miri v36 rom that is good.
Hi i have tryed to search for it but don't think i am typing the correct thing. What are the benifit of putting a updated rom on my Toch HD? I just put htc's latest on and see no diffrence. I have been looking at overclocking it slightly as i think it runs so slow has any one done this?
Regards
Chris W
You cannot overclock (atleast not where stable) the blackstone. there was a program floating about at one point which did OC it to 600MHz (something like that) but that would crash if touchflow was enabled, but i digress. To improve performance, i suggest you install the driverpack which is in the how to improve graphics performance thread in this forum.
If you want some more speed, i suggest you install a custom 6.1 ROM (topix, the one by kwbr, is a personal favourite). alternatively, you could adjust the pagepool of the ROM youre on atm (would require the ROM image youre using and later a reflash of the edited image)
That said, the stock ROM was very quick for me. programs loaded almost instantaeously (most apps, like notes, youtube, WMP, but not opera or games, as these always take a second or too to load onto RAM). the only thing that put me off the stock ROM, was the fact that everything worked a bit too well for my liking. it was kinda boring. ever since i started screwing around with it (with this aid of this forum ofc), ive been able to do much more than i could with just a stock ROM.