Hello, good day I wish to all. I am looking for a cable for LEO, with which I could plug an USB device (USB key, HDD,...) into my device, as I was used to it from my former Pocket Loox 560, which included this kind of a Y-cable as standard. It is pretty helpfull not to turn computer on/off all the time, or not need to take off the back cover for memory card removal. Any help, pls? Or any other idea how to plug USB device into LEO? Thanks in advace.
I'm not certain wether or not the Leo has USB-host functionality. HTC phones usually don't, and without this it's not possible to connect USB-sticks, HDD or other stuff.
You need this cable: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Micro-USB-Host-Cable-for-Nokia-N810-OTG-on-the-go-N-810_W0QQitemZ250554211326QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3a5631dbfe
As above though, not sure it will work as apparently the proper drivers aren't on the device.
This rom developer is working to include them in his room soon, see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=576165
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I wanted to find out if it is possible to adjust the drivers or to just create drivers of an external device to work on a pocket PC ?
Since the communications port on a Wizard is already a mini USB can a regular xp driver be adjusted so that when you plug for example an external HDD and obviously use the appropriate mini usb to mini usb cable into a Pocket pc that it would detect and install onto the device so that you can use it in the similar manner that you would on a regular XP based system ??
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there is no USB host drivers, nor is the mini-B port capable of putting out 5volts.. not possible to do what you are asking of the mini-b
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considering that the power issue is not a problem and that the devic has external battery power, would it be possible then ?
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Do you think that there is a way to adpat the device to work as a SDIO, so basically convert from USB to SDIO ?
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I am not an expert, but I have read somewhere that there are two kinds of USB chip sets - one that is slave-only, and another that can act as master (also called "host mode"). Devices, such as phones, hard drives, flash drives etc., have the "slave mode" chip, and hence cannot be used to act as a host, which is what you want to do.
I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong!
i researched a bit on USB and SDIO, and it seems that SDIO would be a way to add an external device...
Now would it be possible to create an SDIO device with a host USBB controller in it ? or do i have this all mixed up ?
reo
Yes, that is possible, in theory. However, the SDIO spec does not support Mini-SD afaik; or, even if it does, I have not seen any device maker that makes a mini-SD device (other than the usual flash card). So, I think you are out of luck on that as well.
I have a Garmin GPS 18 USB Laptop Receiver which is a GPS receiver with a standard USB adapter on it.
Has anyone tried to use a female to male mini adapter and plug this into the mogul.
I have the Garmin Software for the mogul, but would this work and be able to be picked up by the software.
Also what would you suggest for drivers
Adapters don't matter if the device won't work that way.
These phones are designed to be a USB Client Device. Not a USB Host Device.
dilligaf said:
Adapters don't matter if the device won't work that way.
These phones are designed to be a USB Client Device. Not a USB Host Device.
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Alright, thats all I needed to know. Sounded like an option, I think Im just going to give navizon a try
GPS fix for you if you have the snarlgies
Snarglies: /noun/ from the remulak vocabulary meaning balls ;-) The reason I say this is because there is on this forum a ROM and radio update that will enable GPS (internal) and REV-A (faster EVDO) features of your unit.
Has anyone tried to connect a (SD) cardreader directly to the USB port of the Diamond ? Is this supposed to work in order to make backups for instance when there is no PC available ?
Another thing I noticed: when you click on Settings -> About it says: "Expansion slot: not in use " !
Is the expansion slot hidden somewhere ? ;-)
Nobody has to try because you're not working with xp or vista. Already think about the os size between a pda system and a computer? A windows based computer has the most fortcoming drivers included in the os. So you need drivers, a mini usb adapter and the usb connector needs the possibillity to communicate with the cardreader.
And the expansion slot, think about the universal os wm 6.1
Hi, for HTC Athena there is an adaper for USB2.0
I connected a 4GB USB-Stick and it is shown in Fileexplorer (like SD-Card) on device.
It is possible with WM6!
Hopefully there will be a such an adapter for Diamond too.
Theres no USB-Host function, so can't be done.
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Theres no USB-Host function, so can't be done.
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Rorydarekign: Could you confirm the source of such information.
I really hope to have USB host with Diamond and I think there's chance that it does have it. Hold Vol Down and Back while softreset shows "Trigger USB host". I am not sure what it means but just want to let you guys know such undocumented feature.
It doesn't come with USB host support, so no hope for external HDD or card readers.
Source here: http://www.ppcsg.com/index.php?showtopic=99356&pid=712271&mode=threaded&show=&st=&
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Hold Vol Down and Back while softreset shows "Trigger USB host". I am not sure what it means but just want to let you guys know such undocumented feature.
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The chipset does support USB host, however the feature is not activated in the Diamond. Could someone give it a try, all you need is the normal Mini-USB cable with a gender adaptor to connect it to USB Stick. Try the undocumented feature described above.
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It doesn't come with USB host support, so no hope for external HDD or card readers.
Source here: http://www.ppcsg.com/index.php?showtopic=99356&pid=712271&mode=threaded&show=&st=&
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I won't believe that post as an official one. Until someone tries it out I'll hope. It could solve iGO8 problem as well.
Usb port is it locked or there is possibility to use it like usb host ?
To manage copy pictures of a camera to phone without pc by usb adaptator.
Samsung talked about usb 2 hdmi cable and think if its real it use some usb video card supported by phone(because of physic material imcompatibily of hdmi nd usb)
May there is a way to dev a tool or hack to get it works...
Aah!! Finally somebody like minded!!
I had been scouring forums for something like this. USB OTG would be an excellent add on to this phone. If not OTG, at least host would be an excellent idea.
No idea whether the existing USB Host driver for Nexus one would work on this one.
The processor on SGS already supports USB Host (not sure about OTG though). This has been pointed out in their press release - w w w .samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/newsView.do?news_id=1043
I am just wondering - should we request Samsung themselves via mass petition to open up this feature on SGS?
some USB devices might be compatible, like the 100/1000 Mbps USB to RJ45 plugs
those same ones works in Windows Mobile it should work as well for Android, however a driver will be required.
mouse and keyboard support should work out of the box
external USB keys for storage, or even USB mass storage devices should work out of the box as well.
usb audio... hmm... not sure what else at the moment
Hi AllGamer
Thanks for the reply. So how exactly do we get this going on SGS?
I am much more interested in having USB HDD support on SGS (hopefully without an ext power source - am I asking for too much? ).
Are you suggesting that the N1 fix should work here also? Can somebody help us with a "How To" to enable this on SGS?
Cheers!!
Coooolboyz
you can plug in any USB mass storage devices (USB hard drives) and it should work.
However, you might not get enough power from the usb port, you'll still need need power cord for your external usb hard drive.
I know on my HTC windows phones works like that, it should be the same for Android.
I'll try that when i get a chance.
you just a need a USB female to a mini USB male cable
yep!! you are right about power!!! I am trying to get a cable - hopefully in couple of weeks should have this.
but I am wondering if all this would work without proper drivers in it. Would SGS have USB HDD drivers in it already?
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yep!! you are right about power!!! I am trying to get a cable - hopefully in couple of weeks should have this.
but I am wondering if all this would work without proper drivers in it. Would SGS have USB HDD drivers in it already?
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I can see one problem, You will only be able to use Fat32 drives unless someone compiles NTFS / HFS+ into the kernel. Ext3/4 is already done so I don't see many problems. What I recommend you do is get some sort of adaptor for Female USB > Micro USB and test it out with a flash stick or you can hack one .
Yeah - I understand the difficulties of having NTFS support outside the MS world.
I didnt know that ext3/4 were already a part of the kernel!! Is this by default available in all Android kernels?
For USB Host cable - I am guessing that this one can be used - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250671106072 (same as what Sven used for N1 USB Host capabilities).
But I seriously doubt plug and play would work (that would be too much of an expectation! )
Does any body have that cable here, who can check out if SGS does actually work in USB Host/OTG mode?
Sven has try with a Galaxy another Host Driver
h t t p : / / sven.killig.de/android/Galaxy/
Hm what can we do with these files?
However, any news about this?
Maybe, we could ask some Galaxy S kernel developers about this.
Disclaimer - This is my first post on this site, so I'm going to try to be strait forward and concise, I'm sorry if any info I give lacks a certain panache.
First and foremost, if you want to use a hard drive on your phone through an HD dock, you must format your hard drive to Fat32. This is a very basic, but unavoidable step. That is if you don't want to make the entire process way more complicated. I used Easeus Partition Manager to format my entire 250GB hard drive (impressive I know). You can use other partition manager software, but Easeus is the one I'm used to, and I found a free download of it, which works perfectly on my old XP PC.
The Second step is to make sure you have enough power to make your hard drive usable, and thus be recognized by your phone. I used a USB hub with a Y-Cable and my phone charger to supply the extra power. Note: Do not put the additional USB power port on the HD dock, you will not get enough power. You have to use an additional power source for this method to work. I suggest using at least a 5V 1A charger, but my phone charger is 5.1V 850mA, and works perfectly.
Step Three is to connect the hard drive. This may seem like an unnecessary step, but there is some important things to know. Do not plug multiple storage devices into the hub. There seems to be some priority conflict when this happens. Thus, if you have a Thumb Drive and a Hard Drive, connect the Thumb drive to the HD dock directly, and the Hard Drive to the hub. I haven't tested if there is a similar conflict with two hard drives being plugged in to the hub simultaneously, nor two thumb drives. There also seems to be an issue where if you only have the hard drive plugged in, but no other storage device in any port, the hard drive still won't be detected. So, you may need to plug a thumb drive to your HD dock, and then a hard drive to the hub. This results in your phone calling the Hard Drive the same device name as the Thumb Drive, but the two are shown separately in the file manager.
The hub I used was a Micro Innovations 4-Port USB hub [Model # USB210P/USB210P-F], with a Mini USB port for the main data connection. As such, my Y-Cable was a Mini USB to Full USB Y-Cable. My USB enclosure for my hard drive was made by Manhattan, which has a single USB power/data connector. My Thumb Drive was a 16GB SanDisk Cruzer Micro. My additional charger was my stock Droid Bionic charger. I also used USB extension cords as needed.
In regards to my use of a hub and a Y-Cable there are a couple simple alternatives. One is to use a Y-Cable with a full sized female USB connection in stead of a Mini USB connector. This would allow you to forgo the USB hub. The other alternative is to, depending on the hub you have, use the provided wall charger to directly power the hub, thus not needing the phone charger, nor the Y-Cable.
This method of allowing your Hard Drive to work on your HD dock should work on other devices, as well as (with minimal alterations) silversonic1's guide "How to use USB Host without an HD Dock." http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495720
Please let me know if this helped you, and feel free to post any additional info on your success and methods used.
Edit 05/28/12: My brother bought a power converter that gives 5V 2.1A, or an optional 5V 1A on two ports. It's an RCA AC to USB converter, model # PCHUSB2R. This adapter was able to supply enough power to my hard drive for it to be read without my Thumb Drive being plugged in as well. It appears that the biggest problem the HD Dock has is that it does not give enough power to charge the phone and power a hard drive through USB. The normal power supply provides 12V 1.5A to the Dock, but I don't know how that power is distributed throughout the Dock. This apparently causes problems, but the additional Amps from the new adapter resolves a lot of them.
Although, recently I've had the problem of the Hard Drive failing on the phone's OS, but not on the Webtop OS, so the hard drive is still usable where it needs to be. You just have to go into the Webtop's file manager to unmount it once your done, but sometimes it won't say it's unmounted, so be careful. Also, the hub solution still doesn't allow you to plug in extra storage devices. It seems you're limited to one storage device per USB port on the dock itself. So, a max of 3, while, theoretically, you should be able to plug in up to 7.
thanks for the concise guide, i've been mulling over NTFS hacks for a while but frankly id probably not be worth the time.
currently i have a USB hub connected to my lapdock by a USB A (back port on lapdock) to mini connector on the hub. correct me if im wrong, but if you actually own the HD or lap dock, USB host mode is activated for you and thus you do not require an OTG cable (assuming you have adequate power for your components)-
i'm working on trying to mount a USB dvd drive, it is being detected correctly however i wonder if the issue you presented with the HD failing to mount without the thumb drive could also present itself here? (seems like simply mounting the DVD shouldnt be too difficult, but device drivers for writing i havent come across..)
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thanks for the concise guide, i've been mulling over NTFS hacks for a while but frankly id probably not be worth the time.
currently i have a USB hub connected to my lapdock by a USB A (back port on lapdock) to mini connector on the hub. correct me if im wrong, but if you actually own the HD or lap dock, USB host mode is activated for you and thus you do not require an OTG cable (assuming you have adequate power for your components)-
i'm working on trying to mount a USB dvd drive, it is being detected correctly however i wonder if the issue you presented with the HD failing to mount without the thumb drive could also present itself here? (seems like simply mounting the DVD shouldnt be too difficult, but device drivers for writing i havent come across..)
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Thanks for the reply.
It may be mostly power consumption problems for the most part for my set-up. After all I have my Thumb Drive, my Hard Drive, and a wired keyboard with built in USB 1.0 hub (which I connected a wireless mouse dongle and a USB powered fan to). But I did notice that my particular Hard Drive enclosure and Laptop Hard Drive won't work without the extra power. The light on it will turn on, but the Hard Drive remains inactive.
I just ran another test with nothing but the hard drive plugged in, but it wasn't readable until it had both extra power and my Thumb Drive connected. I don't know what exactly is up with this, but I know someone (other than me) will figure it out. I simply am not experienced enough with programming nor diagnostics to be able to find the cause, but I at least can work around the symptoms.