anyone have anything to say about those chargers that use AA batteries, either one of them, or a couple that say they charge ur phone 2-3 times from discharged?
anyone have one that works? link it please?
is it a load of bs?
thanks
Are you referring to this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/EMERGENCY-AA-BATTERY-CHARGER-FOR-MOGUL-XV6800-6800-6700_W0QQitemZ270150736083QQihZ017QQcategoryZ20336QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247
I tried it and it didn't work. I first tried it with my battery power at 60%. I put my Mogul in sleep mode with no apps running, plugged in the charger using a fresh Duracell, and waited two hours. When I checked it, it was still at 60%. But about two minutes later it dropped to 30%. WTF!?!?! I tried it again the next day at 50%. This time the battery level stayed at 50% for a little while before dropping at a normal level. I have the 1% battery meter .cab installed. So the only thing I can really say is that it kept my Mogul battery from discharging while in sleep mode, which isn't very useful. Maybe I got a bad charger.
I ended up buying a second battery. It's actually easier to carry than the emergency charger. It's a pain to swap batteries, but I've only had to do it once. If you are runing low on battery power on a continuing basis then you'd be better off getting an extended battery.
My Diamond won't charge to full capacity! I tried to charge it overnight two times and the first time my telephone charged it was 70 procent charged after 1 night. (7/8 hours) and the second night (5/6 hours) with the same percent when i woke up. I had it once 100% but after installing hardSPL and the hardreset it drop instantly to 40%. (i just installed that , and nothing more.)
Connected the telephone to the charger again and i've got a full lit led ring. After turning the device on the ring went 'charging' again. The capacity was 75%. In windows.
kenny89 said:
My Diamond won't charge to full capacity! I tried to charge it overnight two times and the first time my telephone charged it was 70 procent charged after 1 night. (7/8 hours) and the second night (5/6 hours) with the same percent when i woke up. I had it once 100% but after installing hardSPL and the hardreset it drop instantly to 40%. (i just installed that , and nothing more.)
Connected the telephone to the charger again and i've got a full lit led ring. After turning the device on the ring went 'charging' again. The capacity was 75%. In windows.
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Definatly sounds like a faulty cell in your battery
At least its not the phone thats broken, a battery is easily replaced.
I also have a strange battery issue! Mine won't charge if the Diamonf is switched on.
The Battery only will charge if I switch the Touch Diamond OFF, If it’s turned off, not only the display. With Running OS, when I plug the AC adaptor, it only show few seconds the charging breathing LEDs and then stops, the indicator also doesn’t show the charge symbol but the full charged battery instead but the LED indicator is not full white as it should be in full charge state and the battery of course drains down… I’ve tested with another AC adaptor, another USB charger, even car charger (I have the HTC original one), still the same behaviour.
Could this be related to the developer HardSPL? I also have this behaviour after that installation... weird
Any kind of help would be appreciated!
Its unlikely its the hardspl. I would guess hardware issue, but if it charges while off then thats unlikely too.
I assume you've tried a hard reset already to rule out any application interferring with it?
Also what happens when you plug into your PC? same thing?
My best guess at this stage with most likely at the top:
1) Software issue - try hard reset
2) Battery issue - try another battery, or once fully charged look for a big drop in battery very quickly. There are some battery manager/monitors you can download which can monitor the voltage for you. If you can show me the drop in voltage of the battery i can conclusivly tell you if the battery has a fault.
3) Hardware issue with the phone - that would just suck!
update: Replaced my battery and charged it through the adapter, full 100%.But here's something that is stranger... I installed the battery in another diamond and that battery indicator was 100% full..
I hope that it was a battery problem, because i had so much troubles with the diamond so far! The new battery is lasting much longer, it's been 6hours and it didn't even lost a bar. (still 100%)
kenny89 said:
update: Replaced my battery and charged it through the adapter, full 100%.But here's something that is stranger... I installed the battery in another diamond and that battery indicator was 100% full..
I hope that it was a battery problem, because i had so much troubles with the diamond so far! The new battery is lasting much longer, it's been 6hours and it didn't even lost a bar. (still 100%)
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A fully charged cell has about 4.3v across it. As its drained of current the voltage drops to about 3.3v, when its fully depleted.
The phone uses this voltage level to display the current capacity of the battery
If a cell fails in the battery, as its capacity reduces its not able to provide enough current. Power = current x voltage
If the phone tries to draw normal current, the voltage drops excessivly to conserve the above formula. This shows in the phone as a decrease in battery capacity. The voltage across the battery drops to below 3.3v before the remaining cells are depleted, and although there is still enough current to suply the phone, there isnt enough voltage. Overall there isnt enough power (P=IV)
A rested battery may show enough voltage for a short while (when you first put it in) but the voltage will drop drasticly as soon as any significant current is drawn.
This is a really common failure in a bettery, and you can spot it very quickly when you see sharp drops in the battery meter.
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Also what happens when you plug into your PC? same thing?
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Yes, same thing...
My best guess at this stage with most likely at the top:
1) Software issue - try hard reset
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Don of course and even reflashed without installing any application, just synced with PC... same issue. In the mean time I even reflashed the stock SPL to try... and the Diamond is now charging in Off modus, so I'll turn it on tomorrow to give it a trial
2) Battery issue - try another battery, or once fully charged look for a big drop in battery very quickly. There are some battery manager/monitors you can download which can monitor the voltage for you. If you can show me the drop in voltage of the battery i can conclusivly tell you if the battery has a fault.
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I guess the Battery has an issue, but none is available quickly in my country, I'll have to try to order one abroad... let's check...
Thanks anyway for your advices...
I flashed my TD from 1.37.081 to 1.37.707.1 today and my battery went to 30 percent and not long after it wend dead again.
But there's something strange that i've discovered today.. my charger charges my phone really slow (with original cable and charger) but with the 3rd party adapter i charged todat (adapt htc, specifications are the same of the original adapter) it's normal and my phone doesn't warm up ( max 20 degrees celcius) so much as with the HTC adapter (40 or more degrees celcius?).
I flashed my TD from 1.37.081 to 1.37.707.1 today and my battery went to 30 percent and not long after it wend dead again.
But there's something strange that i've discovered today.. my charger charges my phone really slow (with original cable and charger) but with the 3rd party adapter i charged todat (adapt htc, specifications are the same of the original adapter) it's normal and my phone doesn't warm up ( max 20 degrees celcius) so much as with the HTC adapter (40 or more degrees celcius?).
Check the current on the 3rd party charger.
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(adapt htc, specifications are the same of the original adapter)
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output 5V/1A , same specs. input is a little different (110-220hz, 0,2A) against (110-220hz, 0,15A).. but that isn't a problem right? The output is the same.
Thats really strange. Yeah its the output that matters,
There should be no difference at all!
Yeah.. my Touch Diamond is f**** up as h****.. that's not only the problem. I used some GPRS today and my phone makes noises just like when you put a telephone next a speaker and it receives sms/calls. That's when i'm surfing on the web :O!
On top of that, my speaker quits after x seconds/minutes and doesn't make any sound at all and then works after x seconds/minutes. But it doesn't work after x seconds in the Touch Flo mp3player. So my ' precious diamond' is pretty worthless right now.
XzaniX said:
I also have a strange battery issue! Mine won't charge if the Diamonf is switched on.
The Battery only will charge if I switch the Touch Diamond OFF, If it’s turned off, not only the display. With Running OS, when I plug the AC adaptor, it only show few seconds the charging breathing LEDs and then stops, the indicator also doesn’t show the charge symbol but the full charged battery instead but the LED indicator is not full white as it should be in full charge state and the battery of course drains down… I’ve tested with another AC adaptor, another USB charger, even car charger (I have the HTC original one), still the same behaviour.
Could this be related to the developer HardSPL? I also have this behaviour after that installation... weird
Any kind of help would be appreciated!
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Check your settings: settings > power > checked off the "when device is turned on, do not charge...." ?
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Yeah.. my Touch Diamond is f**** up as h****.. that's not only the problem. I used some GPRS today and my phone makes noises just like when you put a telephone next a speaker and it receives sms/calls. That's when i'm surfing on the web :O!
On top of that, my speaker quits after x seconds/minutes and doesn't make any sound at all and then works after x seconds/minutes. But it doesn't work after x seconds in the Touch Flo mp3player. So my ' precious diamond' is pretty worthless right now.
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That noise is caused by a harmonic of the GSM signal. It sounds like the grounding is not correct, either for the speaker or possibly a whole section of the circuit.
Not good!
I have the same thing - battery left on overnight does not result in 100% indication. Yet it often creeps up much higher after I have removed the charger! Have come to the conclusion that it is a software problem - terminal voltage tests OK.
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Check your settings: settings > power > checked off the "when device is turned on, do not charge...." ?
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-hi Bakman, of course this was my first check Anyway, is getting worse, now it even won't charge when switched off So I'll send it for repair I guess... I hate to wait for a new device, pay a huge amount of money for it and when you finally get it, it's defective
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I have the same thing - battery left on overnight does not result in 100% indication. Yet it often creeps up much higher after I have removed the charger! Have come to the conclusion that it is a software problem - terminal voltage tests OK.
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Same issue here. When charging the phone while it's *on*, it results in the indicator stopping at 75%-80%, no matter how long I charge.
I think once when charging through PC/USB, this did not happen and the battery did charge to full.
A soft reset results in the indicator displaying 100% battery however.
So is this a battery problem, or software/hardware problem?
Ildefonse said:
Same issue here. When charging the phone while it's *on*, it results in the indicator stopping at 75%-80%, no matter how long I charge.
I think once when charging through PC/USB, this did not happen and the battery did charge to full.
A soft reset results in the indicator displaying 100% battery however.
So is this a battery problem, or software/hardware problem?
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Sounds definately like a s/w problem to me, they will have to provide a fix in a ROM update I guess. Mine is OK at the minute though. Is yours UK or grey import?
Err, I bought the WWE version in Holland. Actually someone bought it for me, but that's not the point.
I did find out that using the advanced config tool to disable the setting "GPRS auto attach" really saves a lot of battery power! Yesterday my phone was idling the whole day and night, and battery only dropped 10-20%.
Hi,
I have my Diamond for about 1 year now. About three weeks ago I could not charge my battery anymore, so I bought a new battery (original HTC). With the new battery installed everything worked fine again.
After a week the problem retruned. The phone switched itself off after the battery level low warning and I tried to charge the battery after about 5 hours. So a second battery became useless.
I also tried charging by USB-cable with several PC's but without any result. I measured at the + and - poles of both batteries and measured about 0,3 Volts, so the batteries must have been drained completely. I guess the protection circuit in the battery/phone prevents charging.
On one battery I directly put power on the battery poles from another power supply, which deliveres about 10 Volts for a very short time (only for about 2 seconds). Then I measured the voltage on the battery poles; it was about 3 Volts now! I put the battery back in the Diamond and to my surprise it charged normally. I also did this with the second battery and it also functions normally again.
Tonight one of the batteries was drained again and the charger was connected after about two hours and again no charging was possible. I did 'the trick' with the other power supply and afterwards everything was working fine again.
In other situationss, when I connect the charger directly after the phone switches itself off after the battery low warning it also works normally.
The problem seems to be that the phone drains the battery completely when left without charging and when it gets too low charging is not possible in the normal way. The phone swithes itself off at about 5% charge level, so the software seems to be working ok.
Does anybody know this problem, and maybe propose a solution.
I'm using the latest stock 2.03 ROM from HTC.
Thanks in advance!
I'm having the charging issue. Having it with both of batters. Overnight charging and only 40%. Also drains like with in hour. Any solution?
Hi,
Just purchase 2 HTC HD2 replacement batteries from ebay (Non original)
and facing a problem in charging both of them.
When I power up the phone it shows 80%, but when charger is connected,
it does not show the charging icon and the notification LED keeps blinking between amber and green.
Any one got any idea? Both the batteries defective?
I use a meter to measure the batteries, one got 4v the other 4.02v.
Seems ok but just cannot charge inside the phone.
Help and advise needed. Thank you.
Got the same issue here. They will charge up to 68% then stop.
Have to turn off phone and plug in again to charge the final bit - OR - take them out and put in caddy charger.
Battery replacement charging problem
I also have the same problem but this issue happen only if you use the device while charging the battery. If the issue occur try turn off the screen (not power off) and wait around 3-5 mintues then it continue charging the battery without any problem. The problem is occur only if we use the power too much such as Telephone call, Wifi, GPS then it back to blink green and amber again and again. Howerver I found out that sometime after soft reset the battery report it have been charge during green and amber blinking (in my case I upload youtube of 120MB and take quite a long time around 2-3 hours the battery indicate 6% and not increased until I softreset them then become 72%)
Howerver, this is almost not acceptable since it should be charged normally in any condition.
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I also have the same problem but this issue happen only if you use the device while charging the battery. If the issue occur try turn off the screen (not power off) and wait around 3-5 mintues then it continue charging the battery without any problem. The problem is occur only if we use the power too much such as Telephone call, Wifi, GPS then it back to blink green and amber again and again. Howerver I found out that sometime after soft reset the battery report it have been charge during green and amber blinking (in my case I upload youtube of 120MB and take quite a long time around 2-3 hours the battery indicate 6% and not increased until I softreset them then become 72%)
Howerver, this is almost not acceptable since it should be charged normally in any condition.
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Do you guys think this is due to "low quality" batteries that could not be charge properly in the phone. Can only be charged using cradle....??????
same issue here, except mine will go amber/green regardless of power % left.
I have seen mine doing amber/geen even when it'[email protected] 10% with screen off.
That would all seem to point at the phone drawing more power than can be put in the battery at the same time.
I reported it to the ebay seller in anycase, who says he will contact the factory.
cheap ebay batteries causing problems?
My cheap battery does the same if I use cheap craddle that came with it. However if I use original charger and stock cable it is all fine.
Oh yes and original battery used in cradle does the same orange/green.
However in any case living it for 3-4 minutes starts charging process.
When it's charged up fully it's def a massive improvement on the original though. I can get almost 50 hours out of it now, the original one I had only got 24 at a push
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When it's charged up fully it's def a massive improvement on the original though. I can get almost 50 hours out of it now, the original one I had only got 24 at a push
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what actual battery do you have Blanco, any chanve of a link to where you bought it, i have ordered a momax but are still waiting, this standard battery is killing me
this one
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-2x-Batter...ries_MobilePhoneBatteries?hash=item2a035b4473
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this one
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-2x-Batter...ries_MobilePhoneBatteries?hash=item2a035b4473
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thanks for that, and you definatly think it lasts longer than the original htc ? are you a heavy user?
Yes - BUT - mine came with a 750mA, and I think you guys will have a 1230 right?
The other day I was in a hospital and my phone was next to the bed but the charger wire was tangled in the bed. So a nurse came up and rolled out the bed and the phone fell from quite high on the (hard) floor.
It still worked, screen wasn't cracked so I didn't think much of it.
But now, the phone can be charged with the charger. As soon as I unplug the charger there are 2 things that can happen:
1. The phone keeps saying it's charging. Other than that the phone is fully functional. Battery drain is much higher though, in 10 minutes I lose 7% battery.
2. The charging icon in the battery will flash on and off. When I switch off the screen, the lock-screen immediatly turns on and the text charging blinks, it's like someone is plugging in the charger and takes it out immediatly, battery drain is even higher when this occurs, I lose 50% within the hour, depending of what I'm doing.
Sometimes the problem is not there, the phone will function normally, but the problem will come back within 1 or 2 hours and usually when I plug in a charger and take it out later. Also, sometimes it seems the phone is not charging and the charge indicator will stay at a certain percentage but when I reboot the phone it it fully charged (according to the indicator).
First I thought it was an android problem. But when I switch off the phone the charging image appears as well and starts blinking, also the menu and back button flash on and off. It's also quite difficult to switch on the phone at this point and the battery image shows only the outline of the battery, not how much charge is in it.
So far I tried 2 other chargers, 2 other batteries (1 original Samsung and 1 after market). Rebooted the phone many times and left the battery out for an hour.
Anyone knows of what causes such a problem? Of course, the fall was the start of the problem. Could there be some pins bent in the usb socket of the phone?
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The other day I was in a hospital and my phone was next to the bed but the charger wire was tangled in the bed. So a nurse came up and rolled out the bed and the phone fell from quite high on the (hard) floor.
It still worked, screen wasn't cracked so I didn't think much of it.
But now, the phone can be charged with the charger. As soon as I unplug the charger there are 2 things that can happen:
1. The phone keeps saying it's charging. Other than that the phone is fully functional. Battery drain is much higher though, in 10 minutes I lose 7% battery.
2. The charging icon in the battery will flash on and off. When I switch off the screen, the lock-screen immediatly turns on and the text charging blinks, it's like someone is plugging in the charger and takes it out immediatly, battery drain is even higher when this occurs, I lose 50% within the hour, depending of what I'm doing.
Sometimes the problem is not there, the phone will function normally, but the problem will come back within 1 or 2 hours and usually when I plug in a charger and take it out later. Also, sometimes it seems the phone is not charging and the charge indicator will stay at a certain percentage but when I reboot the phone it it fully charged (according to the indicator).
First I thought it was an android problem. But when I switch off the phone the charging image appears as well and starts blinking, also the menu and back button flash on and off. It's also quite difficult to switch on the phone at this point and the battery image shows only the outline of the battery, not how much charge is in it.
So far I tried 2 other chargers, 2 other batteries (1 original Samsung and 1 after market). Rebooted the phone many times and left the battery out for an hour.
Anyone knows of what causes such a problem? Of course, the fall was the start of the problem. Could there be some pins bent in the usb socket of the phone?
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I had a problem recently in which even though I kept my phone on charging (and it showed that it is charging), the battery percentage either remained same or it went down even though it was plugged in.. went to samsung and they said the usb port is damaged and they replaced it.. I think the same resolution will be for your problem
Mmm....makes sense. What does Samsung charge for that?
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