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An ExtROM trick

Hi there!
Today I've got an idea. If I unlock the extrom, install all my programs and totally config my wizard, the backup my system with SPB Backup for WM5.0, then put the backup file into the ExtROM and write a config.txt, and make a HardReset, the backup file should be installed automatically.
Or ExtROM only works with .CAB files?
EDIT:
NOW Testing.....Will post the result

How are you going to unlock the ext-rom?

risidoro said:
How are you going to unlock the ext-rom?
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ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Unlock/Unlock Ext Rom Wizard.cab

faria said:
risidoro said:
How are you going to unlock the ext-rom?
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ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Unlock/Unlock Ext Rom Wizard.cab
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And what about the post AKU2 roms?

There's a fix for that, too. Don't recall where off-hand.

SuperRob said:
There's a fix for that, too. Don't recall where off-hand.
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It doesn't work!!!

Ok. NowI have time for testing this idea. But I have some problems.
When you open the EXTRom you can see a config.txt which contains the cab configuration datas.
Like this:
CAB: \Extended_ROM\T-Mobile_Network_Customizations.cab
I'm using SPB Backup what is creates backup files in .exe format. So if I want to do a full backup and I want it to autorun after a hard reset, I must do edit this config file right?
Maybe the config file should be like this:
EXE: \Extended_ROM\Full_Backup.exe
All I mentioned here is right, or I'm wrong with something?

HyperMalac said:
Ok. NowI have time for testing this idea. But I have some problems.
When you open the EXTRom you can see a config.txt which contains the cab configuration datas.
Like this:
CAB: \Extended_ROM\T-Mobile_Network_Customizations.cab
I'm using SPB Backup what is creates backup files in .exe format. So if I want to do a full backup and I want it to autorun after a hard reset, I must do edit this config file right?
Maybe the config file should be like this:
EXE: \Extended_ROM\Full_Backup.exe
All I mentioned here is right, or I'm wrong with something?
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youare correct,but it wont work because the spb .exe has an input dialog before starting to restore ,therefore it will crash the extended-rom when trying to install the .exe,the solucion is to hack the .exe file and remove the dialog input so it can install witout any user help.

faria said:
youare correct,but it wont work because the spb .exe has an input dialog before starting to restore ,therefore it will crash the extended-rom when trying to install the .exe,the solucion is to hack the .exe file and remove the dialog input so it can install witout any user help.
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Not 100% sure on this as I have not tested it but could you not unlock the LCD while running the EXE then lock it afterwards if needed?
Something like.
Code:
LOCK:Enabled
CAB: \Extended_ROM\1.cab
CAB: \Extended_ROM\2.cab
LOCK:Disabled
EXEC:\Extended_ROM\backup.exe
RST: Reset
or may be copying it to the MiniSD or internal storage would work better?
Code:
LOCK:Enabled
CAB: \Extended_ROM\1.cab
CAB: \Extended_ROM\2.cab
CPY1:\Extended_ROM\backup.exe
CPY2:\Somewhere_On_Device\backup.exe
LOCK:Disabled
EXEC:\Somewhere_On_Device\backup.exe
RST: Reset
Not tested any of this as I just use OMA and CAB's to do all I need but it's just an idea.

djwillis said:
faria said:
youare correct,but it wont work because the spb .exe has an input dialog before starting to restore ,therefore it will crash the extended-rom when trying to install the .exe,the solucion is to hack the .exe file and remove the dialog input so it can install witout any user help.
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Not 100% sure on this as I have not tested it but could you not unlock the LCD while running the EXE then lock it afterwards if needed?
Something like.
Code:
LOCK:Enabled
CAB: \Extended_ROM\1.cab
CAB: \Extended_ROM\2.cab
LOCK:Disabled
EXEC:\Extended_ROM\backup.exe
RST: Reset
or may be copying it to the MiniSD or internal storage would work better?
Code:
LOCK:Enabled
CAB: \Extended_ROM\1.cab
CAB: \Extended_ROM\2.cab
CPY1:\Extended_ROM\backup.exe
CPY2:\Somewhere_On_Device\backup.exe
LOCK:Disabled
EXEC:\Somewhere_On_Device\backup.exe
RST: Reset
Not tested any of this as I just use OMA and CAB's to do all I need but it's just an idea.
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yes change to LOCK to [Disabled] or put 2 spaces betwin lock and enable in the config file] and it works ,but the there is a a screen stoping you from accessing the dialog even if you press start it will not go away thats was my experience with the program called wm5torage so i hacked it with an hex editor a now installs great.
maybe your extended rom is diferent [since there is many versions] and will let you input ,i know it use to work in the pda2k extended-rom,let me know the results.

Custom Extended ROM apps don't install

I've got a superCID trinity, mounted the ext rom using fit4cat, changed the Config.txt and added some custom apps and placed the cabs on the extended_rom.
Before hard-reseting I installed the custom apps manually just to be sure the cabs were ok, after that I made a hard-reset and waited for the extrom installation to finish, my custom apps appeared on the lower part of the screen were it displays which cab is being installed and I thought everything was fine.
Problem is, when I opened the program list they weren't there. I unlocked, edited and made a hard-reset, am I missing something? I've tried flagging the new cabs as read-only and archive like the rest but the results were the same. Is it because they're not signed?
Config.txt
Code:
LOCK:Enabled
EXEC:\Windows\SetHSDPA.exe /Enable
CAB: \Extended_ROM\CVC-PPC-WWE-611082-DopodTrinity.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\MP_MMS3.5_Dopod_Asia_Trinity_070206.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\PP_Button1.cab
CAB: \Extended_ROM\TaskManager_IconPatch_20061101.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\Signed_Dpdcert_222.cab
[B]CAB: \Extended_ROM\TrayLaunch.cab
CAB: \Extended_ROM\RescoExplorer.cab
CAB: \Extended_ROM\WMDCIcon.cab
CAB: \Extended_ROM\PT_Customization.cab[/B]
XML: \Extended_ROM\PP_Ecall.xml
EXEC:\Extended_ROM\ChgScutAttri.exe
LOCK:Disabled
RST: Reset
RescoExplorer.cab, the program itself is on a folder in the extended rom(\Extended_ROM\Program Files\Resco Explorer) to save main memory space, the cab installs only a couple of dlls, registry settings and the shortcuts
TrayLaunch.cab is also on the extended rom, the cab installs the shortcuts on start menu\settings & windows\startup plus the registry settings
WMDCIcon.cab places my Sync.ico in the Windows folder to be used by Windows Mobile Device Center
PT_Customization.cab places a couple of dictionary files and makes few registry changes

oops, could one of the mods move this to the upgrading section? sorry.

you need to use a cooked OS.nb that doesn't check application security, or have your cabs signed with a valid certificate, otherwise they won't install.
I would suggest to cook your prefered OS.nb with aChef and modify the boot.hv (registry) to disable application security.

Okay thx a lot!
I'll use the latest official Dopod ROM.

just to be sure
so, I've extracted the nbs from the nbh using dutty's tool, converted the 06_OS.nb to raw using chef's tool, dumped the contents with viewimgfs tool and created and converted the boot.hv to reg using the make_boot_hv.bat & rgucomp.exe.
Now, as a first step and to gain a little confidence I just want to remove application security, for that I'l have to:
1) edit the boot.reg
1.a) as far as I read, I must add REGEDIT4 to the beginning of the file, didn't understand if it is imperative or mandatory, like if I only want to add a few things by hand(notepad), I can edit the file right away, but if I want to do something else like import it to win ce cab manager I must add the REGEDIT4 right?
2) when I finish I must convert it back to hv using rgucomp and use addfile.exe to add it to the raw file.
2.a) don't I have to use delfile to remove the boot.hv and only after addfile the new boot.hv? I think I read the addfile used the space left by delfile to place the new file.
3) convert the raw to nb using achef's tool.
I mean, I'm a little bit confused on the add/remove files subject. Since all the tools already exist, it would be nice if there was some GUI to complement them
A list of all files in the rom would be nice, with add/delete/replace context menus. Integration with the Custom RUU would also be nice, optionally create the nbh and run the Custom RUU( with the SSPL ), or export the nbh for manual flash using an SD Card.
edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295783 something like that...

mount/unmount extrom

hi...
can someone tell me how i can mount and unmount the extrom..
i will extract it...
maybe someone can help me...
thanks....

sorry
wrong thread

eviltrooper said:
hi...
can someone tell me how i can mount and unmount the extrom..
i will extract it...
maybe someone can help me...
thanks....
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Use one of the Hermes Cabs such as Hermes_MountALLExtROm.cab Which you will find on the Wiki.It has worked for me.

an how can in unmount it ???

eviltrooper said:
an how can in unmount it ???
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You'l have to change the registry values ,there is a section on the Wiki with the relevant info.

I am a bit surprised with the contents of my no-brand HTC P3600 Extended ROM. There are only three cab files and a config.txt to executed them after hard reset.
LOCK:Enabled
CAB: \Extended_ROM\PP_DefaultPage_WWE.CAB (size about 61KB)
CAB: \Extended_ROM\MP_CVSDcpl_20060920.cab (size about 95KB)
CAB: \Extended_ROM\PP_ExtVersion.CAB (size about 1KB)
LOCKisabled
RST: Reset
Where is the HTC green theme stuff, the Voice Commander stuff, etc??? These cab files are very small and I thought the customisations were all in the ExtROM... I guess they must be somewhere else...

@anonimo: check the \windows folder... (pre)autorun.* (pre)config.*

pof said:
@anonimo: check the \windows folder... (pre)autorun.* (pre)config.*
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Ok thanks!

Run SD Cab with autorun.exe

hello
i need to add a username into the registies for a number of devices i'm flashing. Unfortunatly the usernames all need to be different i.e. PDA001, PDA002 and so on...
I've created a number of different cab files each for a different device that will add the username in.
So is it possible to run the cab file off the storage card as part of the hard reset process. i've updated the SD card with the file Username.cab which is the name of all the cab file, then added "CAB: \Storage Card\Extended_ROM\Username.cab" in to config.txt which is in the Extended ROM. i tested it but it didn't work.
Has anyone got any ideas
Or may be have a shortcut to the cab file added into start up. Would that work?

I'd suggest that you instead edit an existing (or relatively insignificant) CAB file (that you'd probably have no use for anyway) with the registry entries/additions so that its guaranteed to be included when you do the Extended ROM customization.
Did you ensure that you copied all the files from an original extended ROM correctly (before making your modifications)?

The thing is I have around 250+ device which need flashing with the same image and as all the devices will require a different Username adding into the registies I 'll need to run an external cab file, a cab file which will be different for all the devices and it's best to run it from the SD card.
I tried to adding a cab file into the Extended ROM which will install a shortcut into the startup folder the shortcut is to the cab file on the storage card. But for some reason it didn't run.
I have a couple of SD cards with an image of my Extended rom on so if anything goes wrong i have the backups.

Whats wrong with having the 'end-user' maually execute the .CAB file?
Why don't you simply customise one PDA (the way you wan't with your preconfigured settings) (minus the user/device name), then do an entire backup using SPB BACKUP (onto a SD Card). You can then restore this image on all 250+ devices (sounds time-consuming,but it really isn't).
All the end user had to do, is to manually execute your .CAB file when they are issued the units.

This is your true answer (in my opinion):
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/?en

RE: Whats wrong with having the 'end-user' maually execute the .CAB file?
Basically the devices are used by Market research interviewers who work for us, most of whom are not familier with the devices and are not computer litterate. I'm responsible for a small support team and also the development of the devices. The software we use is already extremley simple and all they need to do is click a buttom "Connect" if the username is not already inserted they get a box "Logon Failed, please check the following details are correct." and a username and password box is displayed and they simply need to type in the id number from the sticker on the back of the pda (like PDA001).
We have just had a large project in feild and over the period we have around 200+ user. Around 50% of the call we took, at some point they had problems entering the username. As much as SPB backup would be of use, if they can't already do a simply thing like type in PDA123, asking them to do this seem like asking alot and would probabily cause more issues.
We already have all the other information in the registries for this application and the username is the only thing which isn't consistant through out.
Do you know if it would be possible to prompt them to run the cab from the sd card which enters the username into the registires on startup?

Nunwood PDA said:
Do you know if it would be possible to prompt them to run the cab from the sd card which enters the username into the registires on startup?
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Sure it is possible. Did you already try placing a shortcut to the .CAB in "Windows\StartUp" ?. Likewise, you can easily create another script that deletes that shortcut (to ensure that its only used once).
Please keep us posted, on your developments.

Nokia 3650 said:
Sure it is possible. Did you already try placing a shortcut to the .CAB in "Windows\StartUp" ?.
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Yeah, it didn't do anything. I had a cab file in the extended ROM which placed the shortcut in the dir. \Windows\startup\. For some reason nothing happened, but when I navigate to the .cab file it ran without any problems.
When you say create another scipt, how would I go about doing that? If i had an .exe it could act as a link to the cab on the SD card. i'm not familier with this kind of method. But I think that would solve the problem.
The location of the .cab is: \Storage Card\Help\UserName.cab

Thanks for the exact location. I'm just compiling something for you in visio Studio 2005, that will execute the .CAB file when run at automatically from startup (it'll do this only once).

Rom cooking problem

hey you guys
i'm having trouble when removing files from OEM and SYS folders.
After I've deleted all that i want to get rid of from my rom, reconstruct it, and flash the rom to my device, i always get .cab errors.
ex. i decided to get rid of bejeweled and it says that the bejeweled .cab cannot be found and then it freezes with that on the screen. i have to soft reset it and when i do that, it doesn't get to complete the files installation so i only have half of my intended content installed on the phone.
any advice?

I had this problem and found the cabs are executed by config_AP.txt in the Config_Ap folder in OEM.
Just delete the line you don't want executing, example below
Code:
CAB: \WINDOWS\XperiaRadio_R12_28924_signed.CAB
CAB: \WINDOWS\GoogleMaps-ms-sonyericsson_emb.cab
CAB: \WINDOWS\GooglePanel_UK_R12_5_29082.cab
CAB: \WINDOWS\MxpDeploy.CAB
CAB: \WINDOWS\WM6.1_PPC_dawn_Opera_2141.cab
CFG: \WINDOWS\config_end.txt

Sweetness! I thank you, kind sir.
I'll give it a try.

oh... does anyone know where in oem and sys i can remove windows live, messenger, help, getting started, streaming media, tasks, and internet sharing?