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hi all, I'm a little lost on what to do. I'm trying to update my phone because I'm not receiving texts out of town (need to reset my phone to get them all every time).
My phone has the following:
android 4.2.2 vs98012b (verizon)
rooted w twrp installed (and I'm guessing some sort of ota block since it hasn't updated)
What I want to do is update my phone so it can get texts out of town so I'm thinking OTA? I've searched and found
VS98024A - OTA manual install + Patched Stock Kernels (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699123), is this the way to go?
Is there a flash I can just use? I don't need the latest OTA or Android OS since I'm fine with what I'm using now (although that would be nice too).
anyways, a point in the right direction would be much appreciated. thanks!
ponso said:
hi all, I'm a little lost on what to do. I'm trying to update my phone because I'm not receiving texts out of town (need to reset my phone to get them all every time).
My phone has the following:
android 4.2.2 vs98012b (verizon)
rooted w twrp installed (and I'm guessing some sort of ota block since it hasn't updated)
What I want to do is update my phone so it can get texts out of town so I'm thinking OTA? I've searched and found
VS98024A - OTA manual install + Patched Stock Kernels (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699123), is this the way to go?
Is there a flash I can just use? I don't need the latest OTA or Android OS since I'm fine with what I'm using now (although that would be nice too).
anyways, a point in the right direction would be much appreciated. thanks!
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You need to wipe your phone to out of the box stock to use that method, if you're gonna wipe clean, you might as well take the OTA's to the current version of android on our phones.
Another option is this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2715408
You would just need to update your baseband following the instructions in the post then install the rom via TWRP.
Either way you're gonna be wiping your phone clean.
Thank you. I went with the 2nd option and my phone is running great with the update.
Although it took awhile to reconfigure everything back.
mjones73 said:
You need to wipe your phone to out of the box stock to use that method, if you're gonna wipe clean, you might as well take the OTA's to the current version of android on our phones.
Another option is this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2715408
You would just need to update your baseband following the instructions in the post then install the rom via TWRP.
Either way you're gonna be wiping your phone clean.
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PRIMARY QUESTION: I cannot seem to install any "ghost" KitKat or Lollipop ROM on my XT1058. Can anyone please help shed some light on this? I've spent around a combined 12+ hours searching, researching, and tinkering trying to figure this out, but no success. I typically receive a "com.android.systemui" error message or "Unfortunately, System UI has stopped" message. After I acknowledge the message, it pops up again in a second or two. I have to force a shutdown of the phone and recover via TWRP. I've detailed my history and attempts below.
On the CM website, it says something about how "ghost" is a unified OS for every Moto X, except AT&T, since it's not unlockable. With Sunshine, shouldn't I be able to install the "ghost" ROM? Or does it not matter? I hope this isn't a case of, "even though you have an unlocked bootloader, the 'ghost' ROM isn't intended for your version of the phone." If that's true, it looks like all development on the XT1058 has pretty much stopped.
Many thanks, XDA Community, for helping me understand all this!
Secondary Questions:
I recently tried using the feature, "fixing permission" in TWRP thinking it might help with the "ghost" installations. I started getting bootloops when trying to restore to previous ROMs. The only restore that worked was my true original stock backup; the other restore attempts on SlimKat and other stock instances failed. That worries me. While I have successfully restored my phone, does anyone know if I may have screwed up my phone for the long-term?
(Answered by KidJoe; thank you!) Since I unlocked my bootloader at 4.2.2, can I freely upgrade and downgrade stock OSs? i.e., Can I install AT&T's stock 4.4.4 and then downgrade to 4.4.2?
(Answered by KidJoe; thank you!) Why do so many people seem to care to downgrade their stock OS? While I'm sure some may not be happy with some changes that come with upgrades, what could possibly be so "upsetting" that people need to downgrade?
HISTORY
Phone: AT&T Moto X XT1058, non-developer edition
Android: 4.2.2 | No attempt has been made to upgrade the OS beyond 4.2.2
Used Sunshine to unlock the bootloader while still on 4.2.2
Recovery: Installed TWRP v2.8.1.0, and I use TWRP to backup and install old and new ROMs (I think it's version 2.8.3... I never downloaded a version 2.8.1, but that's what the screen says. I'm wondering if the authors just forgot to update the version number in the program.)
Successful ROM installs:
SlimKat build 7 Official, msm8960dt
Cyanogenmod 11 Snapshot M5 msm8960dt (2014-04-05)
Failed ROM installs:
Cyanogenmod 11 Snapshot M12 ghost (2014-11-15)
Cyanogenmod 11 Nightly ghost (2014-12-19)
LiquidSmooth KitKat v3.2 Nightly ghost (2014-10-31)
LiquidSmooth Lollipop v4.0 Nightly ghost (2014-12-20)
Other Notes:
GApps were always installed when available. I also tried not installing them.
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Many thanks, XDA Community, for helping me understand all this!
Secondary Questions:
Since I unlocked my bootloader at 4.2.2, can I freely upgrade and downgrade stock OSs? i.e., Can I install AT&T's stock 4.4.4 and then downgrade to 4.4.2?
Why do so many people seem to care to downgrade their stock OS? While I'm sure some may not be happy with some changes that come with upgrades, what could possibly be so "upsetting" that people need to downgrade?
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I will answer these two....
1. NO you can not. Once you have 4.4.2, 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 on your phone, do NOT attempt to downgrade, even if you have an unlocked bootloader... For more details see what I typed here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/4-4-4-downgrade-possibility-t2971847/post57563419 along with the other discussions in that SHORT thread.
2. The older root and write protection disable processes for a Moto X with a locked bootloader (like ATT and Verizon) rely on taking advantage of vulnerabilities in the 4.2.2 w/Camera update rom version, or the 4.4 rom. These processes walk you through downgrading your ROM to 4.2.2 w/Camera update and following a set of steps to upgrade which will keep root and disable write protection. NOTE: It was safe to downgrade from 4.4. to 4.2.2 w/Camera update when following the SlapMyMoto/MotoWpNoMo processes. But that was the only time it was safe!!!!
KidJoe, thank you much!
Does anyone else have any idea about my "systemui" issue?
cxwong1 said:
KidJoe, thank you much!
Does anyone else have any idea about my "systemui" issue?
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Just got a Moto X 1st gen replacement from Motorola and getting same problem after unlocking/rooting. Have you found a fix for this? Or does anyone know how to fix? Spent all day working on this and its driving me nuts.
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Just got a Moto X 1st gen replacement from Motorola and getting same problem after unlocking/rooting. Have you found a fix for this? Or does anyone know how to fix? Spent all day working on this and its driving me nuts.
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Hey! Nope, I haven't found the answer, unfortunately. I haven't really tried to upgrade my OS since.
cxwong1 said:
PRIMARY QUESTION: I cannot seem to install any "ghost" KitKat or Lollipop ROM on my XT1058. Can anyone please help shed some light on this?
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I bit the bullet yesterday and paid for the Sunshine bootloader unlock. After replacing the stock bootloader with TWRP and making a backup, I started looking into putting CyanogenMod onto it, as I had just updated a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 to KitKat (via CyanogenMod 11) last week and it wasn't right that my phone had an older Android build than my tablet. I ran into conflicting information here and elsewhere, but the bottom line:
I have CyanogenMod 11 running on my AT&T Moto X.
More specifically, it's this zipball (remove spaces in next line to bypass the forum's lame link blocking):
https :// download.cyanogenmod.org / get / jenkins / 90775 / cm-11-20141115-SNAPSHOT-M12-ghost.zip
I also tried the latest 12.1 nightly, but while it appears to boot up, it reboots almost as soon as you try to set it up.
One thing that seems to help: before loading any ROM (whether stock, CyanogenMod, or whatever), wipe the flash. I have the ROM and Google Apps files on a flashstick that gets connected through an OTG cable, so I just tell TWRP to wipe everything but OTG storage, restore the ROM, let it boot up, then go back to TWRP to install the Google apps.
(Good thing I had the stock ROM backed up...had to revert to it this morning to back up aCar and Stocard data so I could bring them into CM.)
Starting configuration for my phone: AT&T XT1058, stock 4.4 firmware, rooted with the usual means for doing so, bootloader locked until Sunshine worked its magic.
I am rooted, unlocked, and S-offed and running a custom GPE+ 5.0.1 ROM. I have an unpinnable notification that says "System Update Downloaded: Android L Upgrade for User/Release-Keys". It is an OTA update obviously, but doesn't even say what version it is. I believe I cannot install it because I am running a custom ROM, is that correct? If not, is there any way to install it? Otherwise, how can I get this notification to stop appearing? The update is ~300MB downloaded and I would love to have that space back. Also I think it is keeping my device awake because I use the Xposed mod "Notification Count" and it says the darn thing has sent out a notification a whopping 463 times since my last reboot - within 3-4 hours!. That is insane.
Any help will be appreciated.
EDIT: Woke up the next morning, and now the notification count for this stupid thing is "999+". WTF. Why does it have to be so insistent? Anybody have a solution to this?
A week passed and no response. Bump. Nobody has any idea how to get rid of this thing??
Koolstr said:
I am rooted, unlocked, and S-offed and running a custom GPE+ 5.0.1 ROM. I have an unpinnable notification that says "System Update Downloaded: Android L Upgrade for User/Release-Keys". It is an OTA update obviously, but doesn't even say what version it is. I believe I cannot install it because I am running a custom ROM, is that correct? If not, is there any way to install it? Otherwise, how can I get this notification to stop appearing? The update is ~300MB downloaded and I would love to have that space back. Also I think it is keeping my device awake because I use the Xposed mod "Notification Count" and it says the darn thing has sent out a notification a whopping 463 times since my last reboot - within 3-4 hours!. That is insane.
Any help will be appreciated.
EDIT: Woke up the next morning, and now the notification count for this stupid thing is "999+". WTF. Why does it have to be so insistent? Anybody have a solution to this?
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Is updating your custom rom to 5.1+ an option? Already many custom roms were updated to 5.1 even 5.1.1.
Interesting. Last time I checked there wasn't a 5.1 version. But it seems the dev recently implemented an initial version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...m-google-play-edition-lollipop-v1-00-t2963841
The current version of 5.1 of this ROM has some known bugs and I would like to hold off until they are fixed - I like having ambient display. Is it worth waiting until they are fixed, or should I just update now?
Is it safe for me to flash the 5.1 ROM over the 5.0.1 without doing even a cache wipe?
Koolstr said:
Interesting. Last time I checked there wasn't a 5.1 version. But it seems the dev recently implemented an initial version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...m-google-play-edition-lollipop-v1-00-t2963841
The current version of 5.1 of this ROM has some known bugs and I would like to hold off until they are fixed - I like having ambient display. Is it worth waiting until they are fixed, or should I just update now?
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Don't even know what rom it is so its hard to answer. If you prefer a stable rom they yes, you should wait a little more.
Is it safe for me to flash the 5.1 ROM over the 5.0.1 without doing even a cache wipe?
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You should ask this one in your rom thread, sometime when the update is considered a major update, its recommend to do a full wipe, in some cases you are fine just updating without wiping. You could do a nandroid backup using your custom recovery (save it on your computer, not just on the phone) try to update without wiping. If its working fine, there is no problem, if not you can wipe your phone and restore your backup.
To disable the notification, I would try to go in settings --> apps --> all, search for the updater service, clear cache of that service and then disable it. Then find where the ota file is stored on your phone and delete it. Not sure if it will work, never tried myselef
Is there a way to do a nandroid backup directly to pc? Because I don't have room on my phone, and TWRP Manager only lets internal backups take place.
For some reason I can't search the apps in my ROM. The notification says it is from Google Play Services but I suspect that is simply routed requests from the actual updater service. Do you know what the name of the service is, so I can find it? I have a crazy number of apps and can't find it.
Hi Koolstr,
I know this thread is old, but wanted to let you know I am on an unlocked and rooted HTC One (m7) S-On. I am using TWRP and can backup to external storage using a Micro USB Powered Micro USB Host OTG cable, which I purchased from Amazon.
I am running:
Android version: 5.1
Rom: Google-Plus-Edition-LP_m7_v3.2_072915
Kernel: 3.4.10-NuK3rn3l-Lollipop_v8.00
I am getting a similar Android System Update: Android L upgrade for user/release-keys. I cannot get it to go away. I made a complete nandroid backup and then proceeded applying the update. It will reboot the phone into TWRP recovery and do nothing. The update goes away for a few days and then it comes back. I have tried to look for a way to disable the update, but I am at a stand still. If anyone knows that would be great.
Best,
manderson706
It's something that santod did. I believe there's a post in his topic with the fix. Or just flash the updated GPE from santod
Hi all,
I am having issues with my Bluetooth and GSM. I am considering trying to downgrade from OOS 4.1.3 to 4.1.1. I am completely stock, not rooted and don't even have TWRP.
Would appreciate some clarification to the following questions:
1) Can I downgrade by just flashing the official full 4.1.1 zip found in OP website?
2) Should I only flash the modem zip? And if so, can I use 4.1.1 modem while having 4.1.3 installed?
3) Since 4.1.1 already has nougat 7.1.1, is 1) also safe for further downgrades, for example, directly to 4.0.4?
Thanks.
Best regards,
Oldiamond
If your bootloader is locked, you can't downgrade (unless you exploit the security vulnerability from a few weeks back).
If your bootloader is unlocked, use TWRP or fastboot to clean flash whatever version of OOS you want.
You should consider flashing the latest open beta release, I think it's already fixed over there plus there are some Extra goodies and its stable as ****
Anova's Origin said:
If your bootloader is locked, you can't downgrade (unless you exploit the security vulnerability from a few weeks back).
If your bootloader is unlocked, use TWRP or fastboot to clean flash whatever version of OOS you want.
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Pharrax said:
You should consider flashing the latest open beta release, I think it's already fixed over there plus there are some Extra goodies and its stable as ****
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Thanks to both. I am this close to send it back to RMA, as I did not install anything other than 4.1.3, and didn't even unroot it. I don't know... perhaps by sending it back without ever installing TWRP or unlocking anything would provide more feedback to the manufacturer, other than saying "damn guy, started fiddling with the phone and ROMs, and here's the result".
Regarding the beta, I initially considered avoiding it because i read in the forums about issues such as sometimes alarms not ringing. I figure that my boss wouldn't like that
Going back from BETA to regular version also requires TWRP?
Best regards,
Old
oldiamond said:
Thanks to both. I am this close to send it back to RMA, as I did not install anything other than 4.1.3, and didn't even unroot it. I don't know... perhaps by sending it back without ever installing TWRP or unlocking anything would provide more feedback to the manufacturer, other than saying "damn guy, started fiddling with the phone and ROMs, and here's the result".
Regarding the beta, I initially considered avoiding it because i read in the forums about issues such as sometimes alarms not ringing. I figure that my boss wouldn't like that
Going back from BETA to regular version also requires TWRP?
Best regards,
Old
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Alarm issues were fixed, also it never happened to me I and I've been on beta a long time i think on the official page there are the steps to switch between stable and beta. I don't think it requires twrp but don't take my word for it.
Hello,
I bought a 9T Pro in Europe for my wife and until it arrives I'm trying to research and come up with a low effort process of keeping the stock ROM up to date and rooted for her. I'm confident in manually installing and updating custom ROMs, rooting and dealing with custom ROM issues, but she is not. Therefore I thought the best thing is to use the stock ROM - not custom - since it may be the most stable experience and for me to update and re-root it for her regularly. root is mandatory because we need AdAway and other things. As I understand it, as soon as we unlock and root the phone, OTA updates for stock are impossible and maybe even dangerous. I've tried researching here but am bit struggling to come up with the right infos and I'd be glad for any advice.
Of course I have seen the great thread about unlocking, rooting, etc, but It seems that that deals with non-standard Chinese firmware pre-installed, which is probably not the case on our device. Since it's bought in Europe, I think it will probably come with some Global or EU ROM. And it doesn't answer some of my other questions.
So far my idea is roughly like this:
Phone arrives
Immediately update it via built-in OTA to latest official stock ROM
Unlock, install TWRP, root with Magisk
Use the phone
Whenever a new stock ROM comes out, download it from XDA
Flash new ROM in TWRP and root again with Magisk
Repeat 4-6 as new stock ROM versions are released
Of course regularly backup with Titanium Backup and TWRP
First of all, would this work or did I misunderstand something fundamental?
How does low level firmware / modem update come into play? Would that be included in the stock ROM packages I find here? Or do I need to manually update that separately? How do I know when I have to, since there is no custom ROM maintainer telling me when it's needed?
Is there an easier way of doing this? This process requires me to regularly check for a new stock ROM, then borrow the phone from the wife for some time to backup, update, re-root and so on. Not that convenient but it would work if there is no better way.
Sorry for the long post, but I'd be very thankful for any advice or ideas. I did quite some research, but if all this info is already available and I missed it, my sincere apologies. It's a lot of info about a new device to take in. :silly:
derfraenk said:
Hello,
I bought a 9T Pro in Europe for my wife and until it arrives I'm trying to research and come up with a low effort process of keeping the stock ROM up to date and rooted for her. I'm confident in manually installing and updating custom ROMs, rooting and dealing with custom ROM issues, but she is not. Therefore I thought the best thing is to use the stock ROM - not custom - since it may be the most stable experience and for me to update and re-root it for her regularly. root is mandatory because we need AdAway and other things. As I understand it, as soon as we unlock and root the phone, OTA updates for stock are impossible and maybe even dangerous. I've tried researching here but am bit struggling to come up with the right infos and I'd be glad for any advice.
Of course I have seen the great thread about unlocking, rooting, etc, but It seems that that deals with non-standard Chinese firmware pre-installed, which is probably not the case on our device. Since it's bought in Europe, I think it will probably come with some Global or EU ROM. And it doesn't answer some of my other questions.
So far my idea is roughly like this:
Phone arrives
Immediately update it via built-in OTA to latest official stock ROM
Unlock, install TWRP, root with Magisk
Use the phone
Whenever a new stock ROM comes out, download it from XDA
Flash new ROM in TWRP and root again with Magisk
Repeat 4-6 as new stock ROM versions are released
Of course regularly backup with Titanium Backup and TWRP
First of all, would this work or did I misunderstand something fundamental?
How does low level firmware / modem update come into play? Would that be included in the stock ROM packages I find here? Or do I need to manually update that separately? How do I know when I have to, since there is no custom ROM maintainer telling me when it's needed?
Is there an easier way of doing this? This process requires me to regularly check for a new stock ROM, then borrow the phone from the wife for some time to backup, update, re-root and so on. Not that convenient but it would work if there is no better way.
Sorry for the long post, but I'd be very thankful for any advice or ideas. I did quite some research, but if all this info is already available and I missed it, my sincere apologies. It's a lot of info about a new device to take in. :silly:
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I didn't keep stock MIUI long enough to know definite answers, but from what I remember, this is my understanding.
OTA will still work and shouldn't cause any issues, just that you will lose TWRP and root whenever you do this.
The steps you give are the normal way to update with TWRP and root.
However, OrangeFox recovery (a heavily modified version of TWRP) is often used instead of TWRP in this circumstance. It is built specifically for MIUI devices and with a little bit of work, I believe that it is able to survive OTA updates. Have another dig around for OrangeFox in this forum section and hopefully you'll find details on how to set it up so that you can still take OTA updates.
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Found this guide https://forum.xda-developers.com/k2...efox-recovery-mi-9t-pro-t3980579/post80480669
It seems OrangeFox it's a bit hit and miss.
Also Xiaomi.eu ROMs are another alternative to look into.
Robbo.5000 said:
I didn't keep stock MIUI long enough to know definite answers, but from what I remember, this is my understanding.
OTA will still work and shouldn't cause any issues, just that you will lose TWRP and root whenever you do this.
The steps you give are the normal way to update with TWRP and root.
However, OrangeFox recovery (a heavily modified version of TWRP) is often used instead of TWRP in this circumstance. It is built specifically for MIUI devices and with a little bit of work, I believe that it is able to survive OTA updates. Have another dig around for OrangeFox in this forum section and hopefully you'll find details on how to set it up so that you can still take OTA updates.
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Found this guide https://forum.xda-developers.com/k2...efox-recovery-mi-9t-pro-t3980579/post80480669
It seems OrangeFox it's a bit hit and miss.
Also Xiaomi.eu ROMs are another alternative to look into.
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Wow, that's a lot of helpful info, thanks a lot for pointing me into these directions. I will definitely look into Xiaomi.eu, I that sounds promising!
Get phone. Apply for unlock. Unlock.
You can use my guide bit.do/raphaelguide
Use orangefox 10.8 use magisk.
You can flash eu ROM. Stable version. From xiaomi.eu
Eu rom installs official twrp after install. You are familiar with that
Once you have eu ROM ( same as stock, better performance, minimal bloat, no ads, no tracking)
Eu ROMs gets OTA, keeps root. This is exactly what you want. Just press update in settings as normal ota. It'll do normal ota update by itself, no titanium, migrate hassle.
Join telegram group if you want or on me for any help.
Sandeeep Kiran said:
Get phone. Apply for unlock. Unlock.
You can use my guide bit.do/raphaelguide
Use orangefox 10.8 use magisk.
You can flash eu ROM. Stable version. From xiaomi.eu
Eu rom installs official twrp after install. You are familiar with that
Once you have eu ROM ( same as stock, better performance, minimal bloat, no ads, no tracking)
Eu ROMs gets OTA, keeps root. This is exactly what you want. Just press update in settings as normal ota. It'll do normal ota update by itself, no titanium, migrate hassle.
Join telegram group if you want or on me for any help.
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Amazing, I have taken a look at Xiaomi.eu already and decided to try that. But what you're saying sounds even much better than what I expected. Thank you very much too, I will definitely go that route.