Can anyone point me to a guide to setting up a proxy server on my windows machine at home so that I can use that on my Tilt for free (relatively) internet?
Ive scowered forums, cant find a solid solution. Can you anyone help?
can anyone help?
How exactly would it be "free" internet? You are still going to need a data connection to access the proxy server.
it would be free because I would not be paying internet charges through my cellular provider using their wap server to access the internet, rather I would bundle the cost into my already home internet charges if I set up a home proxy and pointed my phone there.
It still would register as me making a call, but it would not register as me using the internet, hence 'free' internet.
Well technically that's what Opera Mini does. They have their "proxy" servers to feed you web pages. Guess what? AT&T doesn't care. Either way it's still data and I get charged for it (although I do have an unlimited data plan so that point is moot). They don't differentiate between web and any other kind of data access. It's all data and what you're proposing won't change the fact that you need a data plan to do it and will get charged for it.
Lidberg said:
Well technically that's what Opera Mini does. They have their "proxy" servers to feed you web pages. Guess what? AT&T doesn't care. Either way it's still data and I get charged for it (although I do have an unlimited data plan so that point is moot). They don't differentiate between web and any other kind of data access. It's all data and what you're proposing won't change the fact that you need a data plan to do it and will get charged for it.
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if you redirect your proxy outside of AT&Ts MediaNET you will not get charged
OK, apparently you didn't read anything I typed. Let's look at it another way.
I have a Tilt. I can enable or disable AT&T's proxy server. Does it really matter? NO. Why? Because in both cases data is being transmitted over EDGE or HSDPA. It's bits and bytes traveling over the airwaves. Whether you are directly connected to the internet, using AT&T's proxy or your own proxy, it's all 1's and 0's to them. If they see those 1's and 0's being transmitted from your phone to the internet, you are getting charged for it.
If it was that easy to bypass AT&T's data plan, wouldn't you think everyone would be doing it? I know I would.
Prove me wrong.
In short: As long as you phone has to send a signal to the cellular towers that AT&T owns and operates, you will be charged data access. The Kaiser has built-in wi-fi, you can get around [most] of the associated issues with WAP by using that when you're at home; however, some programs require a WAP connection as opposed to a standard wi-fi connection, which would require you to send data over the air to AT&T's towers. It doesn't matter where the proxy itself is located, so long as you have to send data to the cellular towers, you're SOL.
mjhill said:
In short: As long as you phone has to send a signal to the cellular towers that AT&T owns and operates, you will be charged data access. The Kaiser has built-in wi-fi, you can get around [most] of the associated issues with WAP by using that when you're at home; however, some programs require a WAP connection as opposed to a standard wi-fi connection, which would require you to send data over the air to AT&T's towers. It doesn't matter where the proxy itself is located, so long as you have to send data to the cellular towers, you're SOL.
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Good explanation
You need to turn off or disable the GPRS connection if you want to use WiFi without paying AT&T connection charges. There used to be a great program over at MoDaCo called NoData which when you ran it showed you the connections you had and let you disable the ones you wanted to have off. Then you could use Wifi without starting a GPRS connection. The program still exists, do a search for it hear or google it at MoDaCo. Only thing, I seem to recall that the creator of the program said it was only for WM5. I've seen people say that it works in WM6 but haven't tried it myself.
Short of that you could just go into DataComm and tap on the Data connection icon, to turn if off as you tap WLan to turn it on. Of course that will disable your data connection and push e-mail and you'll have to remember to start it up again afterwards if you want to get your push e-mail.
jspetrino said:
Can anyone point me to a guide to setting up a proxy server on my windows machine at home so that I can use that on my Tilt for free (relatively) internet?
Ive scowered forums, cant find a solid solution. Can you anyone help?
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Did you happen to be a Verizon customer before you moved to ATT? Verizon tracks data usage through their proxy, so yes, you COULD get free internet with them. I did it all the time, and i miss it. ATT is a bit smarter about it. Instead of forcing you to pay for an unlimited plan or nothing... ATT lets you get on the internet whenever you want... they just charge you for it.
In short, AFAIK, there is no way to get free internet through ATTs network like i used to with verizon.
I had a similar question, which got no replies....
T-mobile puts you through it's proxies, so that pictures etc are compressed, which is a bit pants. That's one reason why you might want to do as described in the OP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345029
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You need to turn off or disable the GPRS connection if you want to use WiFi without paying AT&T connection charges.
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This simply isn't true. If you enable WiFi and you're passing traffic through GPRS, then you don't have your WiFi network configured correctly.
Go to Settings-Connections-WiFi and change the pull down for your adapter from "Work" to "The Internet. Associate with AP. Surf to your heart's content without using the cellular network.
You can shut off the phone connection if you like, but there's no need to do so.
Edit: Just for giggles, I fired up my WiFi configured as above and grabbed a 3MB file directly on the phone. GPRS Monitor recorded zero traffic increase.
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Did you happen to be a Verizon customer before you moved to ATT? Verizon tracks data usage through their proxy, so yes, you COULD get free internet with them. I did it all the time, and i miss it. ATT is a bit smarter about it. Instead of forcing you to pay for an unlimited plan or nothing... ATT lets you get on the internet whenever you want... they just charge you for it.
In short, AFAIK, there is no way to get free internet through ATTs network like i used to with verizon.
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yes I used to be Verizon never go back to them again! I used to use a quick fix on one of my LG phones redirecting to a proxy and i got free internet that way.
Hi all,
Does anyone know if its possible to configure the Kaiser as an analog modem so that I can use it to dial-up to my ISP? I tried doing this by creating a new Connection on the Kaiser and selecting "Cellular Line" as my modem connection. However, when I tried using this Connection the Kaiser doesn't seem to be dialing out at all. Actually I'm pretty sure its not dialing out because I changed the phone number in my connections setup to another cell phone and it never rings.
Is there anyway to accomplish what I'm trying to do? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
umm...no
WModem?
What about this WModem application? From what I can tell, this apps allows your phone to act like a modem. In fact I tried this app and my laptop detected my kaiser as a USB modem. However, when I tried to dial an error dialog pops up on the kaiser telling me to "Please end data call". Funny thing is that I'm not in a data call.
Any other suggestions? Has anyone got WModem working for the Kaiser?
dialup?? yuck!
Its probably a lot better if u use the cell phone data plan over dialup for 3 reasons.
1) its faster
2) a lot more convenient
3) wont use your phone's minutes
How much do you pay for dialup? 10 dollars/mo? and i beleive its around 20 dollars/mo for unlimited data plan for the phone. Just configure the ICS and u will be able to connect to the internet with your phone on your laptop.
@ekw,
Yeah I thought about the data plan.... unfortunately its uber expensive here in Canada. Something to the effect of $15 for 5 megs, with no unlimited data transfer option.
Dial-up is my best bet until they finally decide to roll out an unlimited data plan
Dial-up modem
Any luck in configuring your TyTnII as a dial up modem?
I want to use it instead of a pcmcia-modem...
Regards,
Gert Beckers
Belgium
When ever I use wifi then leave the location or hot spot, I sometimes forget and start using my phones internet and get charged because I don't have a wireless data plan. Is there any way I can stop my phone from accessing the internet? I called to have it deactivated but was told I cant because I have the Family text plan.
I'd suggest KaiserTweak. It's easy to find here. I have ATT's MEdiaNET disabled, as that's what I have & don't want to use [yet].
Jeremie
or you can just goto connection settings and delete the APN
or there's a program call "MoDaCo_NoData" that can toggle the APN off so phone won't be able to access it
just turn it back on when you need to use it
Hi all,
It has always bugged me that I am not sure whether or not I am browsing the web using my data package or wifi.
However, I have a 250mb a month data package that I have never come close to using so have never let it worry me too much.
However, yesterday I installed the iplayer application for the diamond. When I use it I want to ensure that I am connected to wifi and not using my data plan.
I downloaded a little app called ‘nodata’ which allows me to toggle on/off all the data connections on my phone, but when I browse the web and check my IP, it still shows my ISP as Orange (my mobile provider).
How can I ENSURE that my data connection is wifi?
Search a program called nodata it lets you turn off data connections
the data connection icons look different when you are using wifi compared to gprs
Hi, I've just recently changed network provider to a plan that has unlimited data. The problem is I have a tethering limit of 4Gb a month.
My question is there anyway I can bypass this limit so I can still tether my connection to another device (mainly my PS3) without Three (my network provider) knowing?
The reason I need this is I am unable to get a fast enough broadband connection where I live, so have been using my 4G connection in the past but all networks now seem to cap tethering.
Thanks