apps2sd question - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

i searched for this and came up with some links, but none to verify my exact question which is, do i need a certain ROM, or recovery image, i have the RA-dream-V1.5.2. to apply apps2sd, i am currently running the latest cyanogen ROM, do i need a sd card reader or can it be done just by using terminal emulator, and i just bought a 4gb class 6 from new egg, and i was wondering what do you guys recommend for my ext2 partition space to be? so if you guys have any info on this it would be great if you threw it my way thank you!

Most rom have it enabled automaticlly when it sees an extX partition. The recovery is not required, but helpful if you don't have a linux system or other software to create the partitions on your computer. No card reader is required unless you want to format it that way. The only terminal commands you would need would be in the recovery console for you. The space is up to you and your needs and does not increase or decrease performance either way.
See the link below and it will help you doing it the manual way and with Amon_RA's recovery.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Apps2SD

thank you, you were a bunch of help, i shall try this when i get home tonight

No problem, let me know how it goes.

it asked me for swap-size and also ext2-size, im not to sure what numbers i need hmm?

If you plan on using a hero rom put in something for swap, if not put zero. The put in the amount of ext you want for apps. (normally between 256-512)
To upgrade the file system from ext2 -> ext3 use the command upgrade_fs in the recovery console.
Look at the link I gave you and scroll down to the Amon_RA section if you need more help.

it said upgrade_fs not found (nvm)
i got ext2 to ext3 thank you for all your help sorry for being a pain dude...

so to make sure i did it right, how much available phone space should i have?

It varies based on the cache you have for the apps, but I have 68mb but I have been running the same rom for a while. It should be around 80mb if you haven't done anything to build the cache, but I have the 1.33.2005 SPL which increases the internal memory size.

I get the same error "upgrade_fs not found" when I want to upgrade to ext 3 from console. From Amon_Ra's recovery I get an error too when I want to upgrade to ext 3. The other SD card I have worked perfectly with exact the same steps. What is wrong? Thanks

if you amon's isnt there an option that says upgrade ext2 to ext3? i guess thats the same?

sakumaxp said:
i guess thats the same?
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As the upgrade_fs script, yes.

evilkorn said:
As the upgrade_fs script, yes.
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yeah thats what i did because it did the not found error, so i was like meh, sounds like the same haha

sakumaxp said:
if you amon's isnt there an option that says upgrade ext2 to ext3? i guess thats the same?
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I get an error when I press "upgrade ext2 to ext3" on my 2 GB card, the 1 GB card is done already.

sorry dude im a noob at this thing myself i guess one of the senior guys gotta answer this for you =\

Very strange, after many attempts suddenly I made the partitions, I don't know why but it worked

well thats good to hear =]

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Getting app_s --> ext2 helpp

Ok.. ive been on a mission to install the hero UI on my g1.
my phone is rooted, has the latest SPL and RADIO.
I flashed the hero rom and it worked.. yet there was nothing on the home page. Although if i hit send to dial, or shut the screen off it comes back locked, and gives me the dial pad. im assuming that was becuase of the no app_s on my ext2. right...?
i tried the ADB push, the ubuntu linux... it DOES NOT HAPPEN FOR ME!
(also cant install apps2sd on my phone for whatever reason)
could ive searched and searched this site with no direct answer, and no success.
If somebody could please walk me thru getting app_s to my ext2 via terminal,CP, something.. or even get apps2sd to work and ill do it 1 by 1.. IDC!
thanks in advance.
UPDATE: HAVE INSTALLED APPS2DS2 SUCCESSFULLY AND RUNNING 1.5 [CYANOGENMOD-3.6.5] FROM APPS2SD HOW DO I GET THESE APPS FROM APP_S ONLY MY EXT2 PARTITION? PLEASE HELP ME DO WHAT I NEED TO DO TO GET APP_S TO MY EXT2 AND LOAD HERO ROM!!!
oraeanast said:
Ok.. ive been on a mission to install the hero UI on my g1.
my phone is rooted, has the latest SPL and RADIO.
I flashed the hero rom and it worked.. yet there was nothing on the home page. Although if i hit send to dial, or shut the screen off it comes back locked, and gives me the dial pad. im assuming that was becuase of the no app_s on my ext2. right...?
i tried the ADB push, the ubuntu linux... it DOES NOT HAPPEN FOR ME!
(also cant install apps2sd on my phone for whatever reason)
could ive searched and searched this site with no direct answer, and no success.
If somebody could please walk me thru getting app_s to my ext2 via terminal,CP, something.. or even get apps2sd to work and ill do it 1 by 1.. IDC!
thanks in advance.
UPDATE: HAVE INSTALLED APPS2DS2 SUCCESSFULLY AND RUNNING 1.5 [CYANOGENMOD-3.6.5] FROM APPS2SD HOW DO I GET THESE APPS FROM APP_S ONLY MY EXT2 PARTITION? PLEASE HELP ME DO WHAT I NEED TO DO TO GET APP_S TO MY EXT2 AND LOAD HERO ROM!!!
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apps2sd happens automatically with the newer ROMs. You don't need to do anything except have properly set up partitions for it to take effect. What size is your ext2 partition and is it the 2nd partition on your card?
h.nocturna said:
apps2sd happens automatically with the newer ROMs. You don't need to do anything except have properly set up partitions for it to take effect. What size is your ext2 partition and is it the 2nd partition on your card?
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fat 32 - 1gb
ext2 2nd partition - 700mb
and yes, the card is properly partitioned
oraeanast said:
fat 32 - 1gb
ext2 2nd partition - 700mb
and yes, the card is properly partitioned
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I don't know if it matters, but I think ext2 is supposed to be first?
xsnipuhx said:
I don't know if it matters, but I think ext2 is supposed to be first?
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Fat32 should be first, and both fat32 and ext2 should be set as primary.
What hero rom are you trying to load? You shouldn't have to appy app_s to the ext partition. But the easiest dummy proof way of moving it would be to boot into ubuntu and you can just copy and paste.
supremeteam256 said:
What hero rom are you trying to load? You shouldn't have to appy app_s to the ext partition. But the easiest dummy proof way of moving it would be to boot into ubuntu and you can just copy and paste.
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ubuntu WILL NOT! let me copy ANYTHING to my EXT2 partition.
It says i dont have the permissions to copy things to my card on ubuntu?
Even though it recognizes the partition.
And YES, BOTH PARTITIONS are set as primary

partition question

morning all
yesterday i spent most of my afternoon installing various roms and themes, and last night i was very brave and installed a recovery
im currently running CyanogenMod 3.9.10, now from what i understand this has auto apps2sd but will only work with a partitioned card. my card isnt partitioned.
so
am i right in thinking that 1.4 recovery can do this for me ?
does my card have to be empty / new format to do this ?
and can it be done at this stage of my phone ( theme, rom, radio installed )
many thanks guys
check out this thread it makes it very easy. if you do not have adb then just type in all the commands into the recovery console except in the beginning just hit enter in recovery console to start typing.
thanks for help
is there no easier way to do this ?
that looks complicated
with cm recovery, it's not hard at all. actually, i've done it several times in one day. haha honestly, it's a hell of a lot easier than how i had to partition my card in the first place. i spent hours trying to figure it out, and i praised cyanogen when that recovery image came out.
grandomegabosses said:
with cm recovery, it's not hard at all. actually, i've done it several times in one day. haha honestly, it's a hell of a lot easier than how i had to partition my card in the first place. i spent hours trying to figure it out, and i praised cyanogen when that recovery image came out.
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dont suppose you could advise me on how i go about it could you please ?
you're going to want to backup the files already on your card
grandomegabosses said:
you're going to want to backup the files already on your card
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i have done that
okay, i'm not sure if you need to format it, but you might want to, just for good measure.
boot into recovery and go to console. hit enter and type in parted /dev/block/mmcblk0 then hit enter again.
you'll get a whole buncha text telling you your in GNU parted. type in:
p then enter (just to make sure you can see your partitions and stuff)
you should only have 1 partition and it should be a fat32. enter
rm 1
that'll delete the partition. then enter
(these are the commands i put for my 2gb card. change the partition sizes to fit your card. 512mb is a good ext partition. if you're gonna do swap, 32mb is a safe starting)
mkpartfs primary fat32 0 1501
mkpartfs primary ext2 1501 1981
mkpartfs primary linux-swap 1981 2013
then enter p again to make sure you've got everything squared away. enter quit and it'll tell you that you might need to upgrade your filesystems.
enter upgrade_fs and wait until it gives you a # and reboot.
what size card are you using, anyway?
grandomegabosses said:
what size card are you using, anyway?
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wow
thanks for that hope it works
its 8gig card
when you hit p in GNU parted, make sure you change the partition sizes for your 8gb card. i know... my card is puny! haha
also, do you have adb?
grandomegabosses said:
when you hit p in GNU parted, make sure you change the partition sizes for your 8gb card. i know... my card is puny! haha
also, do you have adb?
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no i dont have adb ? whats that do ?
i just wondered. it does WAYYYY to much for me to explain right here. haha i just find it easier to type out the commands in the adb shell. but i'm not going to explain how to get adb going... it took me long enough to get it myself... haha
well thanks for the help, im gonna have a crack at this now
see you the other side
good luck
ok done that
when i says i may need to update... update what ? exactly
update your ext partition. that's what the upgrade_fs part was about. sorry
please excuse my sheer lack of knowledge...but how do i do that..i think im lost here
just type in upgrade_fs and hit enter and it'll do it automatically. wait for the # come up after that and type reboot then enter and it'll reboot
grandomegabosses i could kiss you put i wont !
your a star ! many many thanks for helping me out

tutorial link please

FINALLY got cyanogen rom working. i've almost pulled my hair out over buying this phone(att user so i had to unlock and learn root, etc.)
anyways, got .999 installed and saw the * Apps2SD is automatic! All you need is a second partition (ext).
can someone point me in the right direction on how to do the partition part? i have full version of paragon and know how to use it but just don't want to fubar anything up.
i apologize for the noob question but i just need to know what to set my 2gb(although i have a 4gb class 6 in the mail now) sd card to what size partitions so i can run the add2sd.
thanks guys and love the site.
There is a sticky post in this section. I found it in less than 2 seconds. without searching.
blackinches said:
FINALLY got cyanogen rom working. i've almost pulled my hair out over buying this phone(att user so i had to unlock and learn root, etc.)
anyways, got .999 installed and saw the * Apps2SD is automatic! All you need is a second partition (ext).
can someone point me in the right direction on how to do the partition part? i have full version of paragon and know how to use it but just don't want to fubar anything up.
i apologize for the noob question but i just need to know what to set my 2gb(although i have a 4gb class 6 in the mail now) sd card to what size partitions so i can run the add2sd.
thanks guys and love the site.
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Example for 8GB card.
Reboot and enter recovery (home+power) then go to console. Enter the below pressing "enter" after each line.
Code:
parted /dev/block/mmcblk0
print (to verfiy we know what size card we are dealing with. Mine was 8166 read below if yours is different)
rm 1 (if you had more than 1 partition you would want to rm them as well)
mkpartfs primary fat32 0 7622
mkpartfs primary ext2 7622 8134
mkpartfs primary linux-swap 8134 8166
quit
upgrade_fs
recovery
NOTE: this will reformat your entire card, so i suggest you back up your files.
and btw tell me the size of your sd card and i will type up the code for you...
use this method to tell me your exact size
go into recovery via home+power
go to console
pres enter
type:
parted /dev/block/mmcblk0
print
i am pretty sure you can see what number represent your total card size.
Easier Way!!!
OK,so I also have Paragon Partition Manager 9.0 Special Edition.
1.Go into your Paragon Partition Manager Software
2.Click on Partition Manager at the first screen
3.Click on your SD Card drive (ie. F:/)
4.Click on create partition in the left hand side of your screen.
5.It will ask you how big you would like your partition to be,then what type of partition. Paragon only supports EXT2 and EXT3 if your looking for an EXT partition. Paragon also only supports Linux-Swap2 and not Linux-Swap3.
If you need any more help man let me know.
Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/andy_lowe02
andy_lowe02 said:
OK,so I also have Paragon Partition Manager 9.0 Special Edition.
1.Go into your Paragon Partition Manager Software
2.Click on Partition Manager at the first screen
3.Click on your SD Card drive (ie. F:/)
4.Click on create partition in the left hand side of your screen.
5.It will ask you how big you would like your partition to be,then what type of partition. Paragon only supports EXT2 and EXT3 if your looking for an EXT partition. Paragon also only supports Linux-Swap2 and not Linux-Swap3.
If you need any more help man let me know.
Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/andy_lowe02
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well i wouldnt say ur way is easier... it does require using a computer, mine uses the phone.. and mine is simply typing what u see.
Also im pretty sure you need to use linux-swap and not linux-swap2
(i think 2 works but im not sure that its recommendable sicne the rom cookers themeselves use 1)
I would also use the method brian posted. its much more effective
thanks guys, i got adds2sd working and everything. on a 1gb right now until my new 4gb class 6 comes in this week.
i haven't done the swap things yet as i'm not sure of them just yet. i've learned quite a bit over the last week without trying to bug too many people on the forum. your replies are MUCH appreciated.
what is the different between ext 2/3 and linux-swap? i'm running my current 1gb 514mb fat32 and 445mb ext3.
ext3 has journaling which reduces corruption a lot. linux-swap is used as virtual memory.
thanks for the reply so in turn the swap will make the phone run faster right?
also, since no one answered my question in another thread:
although i'm running .999 when i press the camera button it open a box with a 'To:' entry and 3 button 'open', 'call', and 'send'.
i've looked in the settings to see if i can change what the camera button does(want it to open the camera like before obviously) without any luck..
any idea?
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any ideas?
thanks again
blackinches said:
thanks for the reply so in turn the swap will make the phone run faster right?
also, since no one answered my question in another thread:
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In theory swap should make it faster as it has more memory to play with.
For your other question, a file on the ROM containing the keymaps has been changed. The only way to change what the camera button does is pull it, edit it, and push it back.
AdrianK said:
In theory swap should make it faster as it has more memory to play with.
For your other question, a file on the ROM containing the keymaps has been changed. The only way to change what the camera button does is pull it, edit it, and push it back.
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oh boy, i tried to avoid the adb stuff as i had a few problems with it. wonder how it got 'changed'.
i'll give it a try sometime.

cyan apps2sd help....please

So this is supposed to work automatically as long as I have my sd partitioned And its ex3. But its still clearly using my phone memory, cause my phone told me the memory is low and the partitioned part of my ed had barely anything on it......why?????
Can someone help
What does the print command show in parted?
What rom are you running?
hug
evilkorn said:
What does the print command show in parted?
What rom are you running?
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I dnt know wat print command in parted means
And I'm running cyan 4.2.5
spazoid said:
I dnt know wat print command in parted means
And I'm running cyan 4.2.5
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How did you partition the card? I am a total noob like you but I have a decent grasp of this stuff. I'll try and help using noob language. Did you partition the card using adb or using an auto-partitioning function from a recovery screen?
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I dnt know wat print command in parted means
And I'm running cyan 4.2.5
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Read up on this helpful guide. That will help you partition your card right. Once that is done.... apps2sd is automatic.
Good luck
borodin1 said:
Read up on this helpful guide. That will help you partition your card right. Once that is done.... apps2sd is automatic.
Good luck
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Even easier would be to use the recovery in my sig.
evilkorn said:
Even easier would be to use the recovery in my sig.
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Easier but not as beneficial for someone who doesn't even know how to partition a card. Trust me I don't sit there and do everything in terminal neither... but... I know how if I had to and I think it's the right way. Also... I was not about to instruct someone to install a recovery just to partition a card.
This is happening on both my mytouch and g1....so I need help for both
So you cannot go into terminal on mytouch...
Used the recovery screen on Ra dream 1.2.2
spazoid said:
So you cannot go into terminal on mytouch...
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I believe "Better terminal" let's you use VK. It's in the market.
Used the recovery screen on Ra dream 1.2.2
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Good to know you got it done.
I didnt get it done. Apps are still taking up memory from both the phone and sd..????
My sd memory from the partitioned portion has only gone down From 447MB to 352 MB
And my phone memory is at 281MB
I deleted some things already, correct me if Im rong, but there should be no internal storage being used right?
Have you dumped your caches? That is the main culprit for me when my internal phone memory gets low...
yes I did...but like I said if apps are going to sd then they should not be taking internalk memory
I guess I see what you are saying... I have the same issue... I just thought it was the name of the game...
do you have adb? if not, you should set it up. you can view the directories on your phone and see where apps really are for sure. i think root explorer in the market will allow you to see it to, but it's a paid app. adb is something you should have either way.
I had 55MB / 89MB left on my g1 running the newest cm.
went into the application settings, then manage applications. Went down to GMAIL and Browser and cleared cache and data.
Now my memory is:78MB / 89MB

Major RA-dream Problem

Is it normal to NOT be able to wipe the Dalvik-cache and ext partition??
It always gives me an error saying it doesnt exist? I am able to install ROMs and themes however. Any ideas or recommendations on what to do?
Running: RA-dream-v1.2.3.
Do you have partations on your SD?
ilostchild said:
Do you have partations on your SD?
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Do you mean the below?
Partition Fat32/Ext2 with App2SD
Open up Apps2SD
It will show you a screen telling you that your card is not partition and you will have a sliding bar to choose the amount of space you want for an EXT2 partition
I suggest a max of 600mb for EXT2 space (I use 500mb)
Press Ok
You will get a Force Close screen DONT PRESS FORCE CLOSE PRESS WAIT
You will get a reboot message, Press Reboot
You now have a EXT2 partition
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Upgrading your EXT2 Partition to EXT3
Note: You do need the Cyanogen Recovery image for this to work!
Reboot into Recovery (Home + Power)
Go to console (Alt+x)
Press Enter
Type the following in the Console:
Code:
upgrade_fs
Wait for it to finish
Congrats! You now have a Fat32/EXT3 partitioned Sd Card!
Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535232
If you get a error about run via console or something you should remove sd blow the slot then place the card back in. Your sd might be the prob though so see if anything changes.
I see i noticed you have a older Ra which has bugs you should upgrade to theh newer version that have those things fixed.
@ Ace42
Quote: If you get a error about run via console or something you should remove sd blow the slot then place the card back in. Your sd might be the prob though so see if anything changes.
Yes it does say run via console, blew the slot several times and same thing, even blew on the SD card and nothing :-(
Perhaps it is time to change out this SD for a newer one, could be its going out on me?
Quote: I see i noticed you have a older Ra which has bugs you should upgrade to theh newer version that have those things fixed.
Upgrading to the latest and greatest RA is my next step, hoping this will fix my issue... thanks for all your suggestions so far.
@ilostchild: thanks for your input as well.
Okay so I installed the lastest RA Dream and am still getting the same error.
I am going to test out a new microSD and see what happens. I just have to make a temporary folder on my desktop copy, format the new SD to fat32 and copy the original files and folders I had back into the new one right?
Also, will me not having partitions be the whole reason behind it? Even the Dalvik-cache?
legend221 said:
Also, will me not having partitions be the whole reason behind it? Even the Dalvik-cache?
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yes................ that would be a reason why you can't wipe your ext partition. you need to have an ext partition to wipe it.
grandomegabosses said:
yes................ that would be a reason why you can't wipe your ext partition. you need to have an ext partition to wipe it.
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That makes perfect sense, thank you.
What about the Dalvik-cache?
legend221 said:
Is it normal to NOT be able to wipe the Dalvik-cache and ext partition??
It always gives me an error saying it doesnt exist? I am able to install ROMs and themes however. Any ideas or recommendations on what to do?
Running: RA-dream-v1.2.3.
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ive got a solution update to 1.5.2
VoLoDaR1 said:
ive got a solution update to 1.5.2
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Im good to go, got that installed since today 04:55 AM.
I think I found my solution the Sandisk 1GB was holding me back. Now I can even install the ROM Super D unlike before.
Many thanks to everyone for their contribution.

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