Strange Android/Dream question - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I only ask this out of pure curiosity, but I remember reading an article in the news a little while back that the Feds can turn on cellphones and listen to them remotely if they have a warrant. Now obviously any tech like this would only work on certain phones but I was wondering if any knows if the Dream is capable of this or if there is anything in Android to accommodate it as well?

I'm 99% sure theres nothing like built into the phone.
Now them listening in might be but not from usinging something built into the phone

That have to intercept the signal, decode it, then listen - Has nothing to do with phone software.

ok thats cool.

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Captivate as Bluetooth Headset?

This might sound rather odd, but a buddy of mine asked me if it was possible to reroute all incoming and outgoing phone calls, SMS, MMS texts, and possibly the 3G data connection from his crappy Verizon Droid (original) to this Epic 4G he stumbled upon. As the Epic is a Galaxy S (likely with the same Bluetooth stack) I was wondering if this is not only possible, but also possible with the Captivate?
I figure Sony's Live View (which runs on Android and feeds such data) and basically every Bluetooth Headset means such a feat is possible.
Im sure its possible but, there's likely not an app for.such. you might have to code some stuff on both phones to do so. It might be an audio redirect app like one that's available for jailbroken iPhones on the secondary app store.........
ANDROMEDA 2.0,1.2ghz and some kernel i can think of. (this is probably all wrong because i will change it in 45 minutes or so)
bzmotoninja83 said:
Im sure its possible but, there's likely not an app for.such. you might have to code some stuff on both phones to do so. It might be an audio redirect app like one that's available for jailbroken iPhones on the secondary app store.........
ANDROMEDA 2.0,1.2ghz and some kernel i can think of. (this is probably all wrong because i will change it in 45 minutes or so)
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Thanks for the heads up. I'll see what I can dig up on bluetooth stacks and see if its a possibility. If anyone else has more info that would be awesome.

[Q] Blocking Smart phone readers

Has anyone seen in the news the electronic readers the government is using which is capable of illegally stealing all private information from any type of smart phone?
Can anybody create a mod that will block a device like this from being used on the Nexus one?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/cops-us...l-cellphone-data-from-innocent-americans.html
Do you really believe what you read?
Say, 16GB of photos&data on iPhone, 1.5 minutes, count required transfer rate - quite simple - and then tell me, what kind of wireless connectivity does this "device" use to "steal data from unsuspecting people"?
Then ask yourself the first question again.
Now, if you look up the stated device's manufacturer site, http://www.cellebrite.com/forensic-products.html, you'll see that even in their photos it's perfectly clear this device has to be connected by wire to the phone. Does anyone in their right mind willingly connect the phone by USB to some device with unknown functionality? In that case, no, the data can't be protected.
Now, if you go even one more step further, and open the "supported devices" catalog on the site, you'll see that the only thing that can be done wireless to the iPhone is extracting phonebook - and I'm not sure about the requirement to allow the BT connection - but if you look up Nexus One, you'll see that it definitely has to be attached by wire to do anything with it.
And now back to the first question: do you believe everything you read?
Jack_R1 said:
Do you really believe what you read?
Say, 16GB of photos&data on iPhone, 1.5 minutes, count required transfer rate - quite simple - and then tell me, what kind of wireless connectivity does this "device" use to "steal data from unsuspecting people"?
Then ask yourself the first question again.
Now, if you look up the stated device's manufacturer site, http://www.cellebrite.com/forensic-products.html, you'll see that even in their photos it's perfectly clear this device has to be connected by wire to the phone. Does anyone in their right mind willingly connect the phone by USB to some device with unknown functionality? In that case, no, the data can't be protected.
Now, if you go even one more step further, and open the "supported devices" catalog on the site, you'll see that the only thing that can be done wireless to the iPhone is extracting phonebook - and I'm not sure about the requirement to allow the BT connection - but if you look up Nexus One, you'll see that it definitely has to be attached by wire to do anything with it.
And now back to the first question: do you believe everything you read?
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But, it's on the internet, why would the internet lie? Are you calling the internet a liar?
I believe that if you soak your phone in warm, salty water overnight it will block this device - haven't tried though, so I can't confirm...
Umm... those Cellebrite devices are very real, and Michigan police are/were using them. The have the ability to pull the data off of thousands of different types of phones, over USB. I've never see Android specifically listed on their site, but I'd be willing to bet their devices can pull data from Android too.
That being said, I can't believe people are handing over their phones. This whole thing stinks of illegal search and seizure. But, they're getting away with it by saying the person willingly handed over their phone (even though I'd bet they're being coerced), There would be absolutely no way I'd hand my phone over to any LEO with out seeing a warrant first.
I was just mulling this over in my head... and I think the only way to block something like this would be to disable the data port on the phone. What that would involve from a software stand-point, I have no idea, and may not even be possible with how the hardware/software is designed... but that is basically the only way I'd see it to be possible.
Removing the USB driver (device functions) from the kernel would be enough, I believe.
In order for adb to work, you have to enable usb debugging. Wouldn't that be a requirement with this device, also?
ok just because I pulled this from prison planet doesn't mean its not true, it was the most convenient link at the time and hours later it was on front page of yahoo and all the major news sites. it would be easy for a police man to take your phone from you and hook it up to whatever they want.
Yep, saw it tonight on NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams. Looks scary with some cops not using warrants to get your phone on a traffic stop...

Android Device Manager

In case you didn't know, Google has silently implemented FREE tracking for almost all androids. It also allows you to erase the phone if you feel that it's necessary, all you have to do is enable it as a device admin. I realize there have been apps on the market for a long time now that do this (and more) however Google doesn't require you to install or update any apps to use this service and from my brief testing it seems to work amazingly well right off the bat.
Go here and bookmark: https://www.google.com/android/devicemanager
it's about time they did this. i've hated having to install lookout or avast for decent location and remote wipe. now, that is more. further proof why you don't need an AV on your phone.
The only thing missing that I would like to see in future updates would be the ability to remotely lock the device so that a thief would have a harder time fooling around with the phone before you can track it. I've been using Where's My Droid for a long time but it lost the web interface tracking a while ago and that's been a bummer.
Is there any way to uninstall this useless feature? I never use GPS in my phone (because of the horrible reception, also because I am able to navigate without it), and also do not lose it.
Also, I already encrypted my device, so people can't do anything with it when they find it.
Also, whilst I am at it, I really do not like the way google forces their "content" down the wide opened throat of the community. I did not like the way they went with google services framework, and how you can't do jack sh*t without it, and I do not like the updates and "progression" they make.
Soo, any idea on how to get that off my phone?
Cheers!
PS: Everything I wrote is my own opinion, and if yours differs, at least RESPECT mine. If not, I could not care less about yours and do not get upset if I make fun of it. (Just in case some fanboy tries to attack me )
IRKONIK said:
Is there any way to uninstall this useless feature? I never use GPS in my phone (because of the horrible reception, also because I am able to navigate without it), and also do not lose it.
Also, I already encrypted my device, so people can't do anything with it when they find it.
Also, whilst I am at it, I really do not like the way google forces their "content" down the wide opened throat of the community. I did not like the way they went with google services framework, and how you can't do jack sh*t without it, and I do not like the updates and "progression" they make.
Soo, any idea on how to get that off my phone?
Cheers!
PS: Everything I wrote is my own opinion, and if yours differs, at least RESPECT mine. If not, I could not care less about yours and do not get upset if I make fun of it. (Just in case some fanboy tries to attack me )
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you can disable the google play services in a custom ROM (i think it's built-in to android 4.2.2) but it'll break the YouTube app, and as you said, you're limited without it. as far as like older ROMs go (ICS, GB, etc.), the app isn't built-in and you can uninstall it.
I personally find google play services somewhat useful (especially now with the ADM), and i use YouTube occasionally so i need it for that, but we all have our own opinions, as you said, and I'd personally like to keep things civil.
and if you hate the services that much, you can actually reflash the ROM you're using without Gapps. it will be a limited experience, but the Play Services won't be there
IRKONIK said:
Is there any way to uninstall this useless feature? I never use GPS in my phone (because of the horrible reception, also because I am able to navigate without it), and also do not lose it.
Also, I already encrypted my device, so people can't do anything with it when they find it.
Also, whilst I am at it, I really do not like the way google forces their "content" down the wide opened throat of the community. I did not like the way they went with google services framework, and how you can't do jack sh*t without it, and I do not like the updates and "progression" they make.
Soo, any idea on how to get that off my phone?
Cheers!
PS: Everything I wrote is my own opinion, and if yours differs, at least RESPECT mine. If not, I could not care less about yours and do not get upset if I make fun of it. (Just in case some fanboy tries to attack me )
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Other than what was already said I don't think there's a way to remove it, but just look at it this way... it doesn't take up any space and won't just activate by itself, so it's really not inconveniencing you in any way. I understand you don't want to be force-fed features that you don't want, and I absolutely respect that, but for many (myself included) this was a long overdue feature that will no doubt help many many users. This kinda stuff comes with the territory of owning a 'connected' device like a smartphone, so if you really want to get off the grid, just go back to a dumb-phone (yes they still exist).
Sorry for the "rant", but these updates cost me money, since I don't have a flatrare on my phone. (And Android OS still uses my data, whilst I have it turned off. Which is strange)
I actually do own "a few" dumb phones, one for calling, one for getting called, one for SMS.
So I am off grid, at least a little bit.
I actually never understood that feature. As I stated above, I am not the kind of person that loses stuff (OK, maybe sometimes my manners ) nor did I ever had something stolen from me. People tried, but never succeeded.
I am looking forward to Replicant, so I can finally shove my middle finger up Googles fat back-ends (of the wafer. Also it is somehow connected to the fat file system. Not what you thought )
Some day.. Soon.
IRKONIK said:
Sorry for the "rant", but these updates cost me money, since I don't have a flatrare on my phone. (And Android OS still uses my data, whilst I have it turned off. Which is strange)
I actually do own "a few" dumb phones, one for calling, one for getting called, one for SMS.
So I am off grid, at least a little bit.
I actually never understood that feature. As I stated above, I am not the kind of person that loses stuff (OK, maybe sometimes my manners ) nor did I ever had something stolen from me. People tried, but never succeeded.
I am looking forward to Replicant, so I can finally shove my middle finger up Googles fat back-ends (of the wafer. Also it is somehow connected to the fat file system. Not what you thought )
Some day.. Soon.
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Replicant is available for the galaxysmtd (international galaxy s). it's not fully functional though, because there aren't a ton of open-source libraries and drivers available. if you want replicant on this phone, you gotta learn how to code, and how to build from source.
supernexus is kinda like replicant except it uses a lot of closed-source libraries that make things work. as i said, just don't flash the google apps package. it's basically a clone of the Nexus firmware, as you get all the AOSP components, nothing more or less. oh and also, very minimal google integration without Gapps
How does it work
So does Android Device Manager track the phone or tablet by the hardware signature or by Google account? I ask because I lost my Nexus 7 last Monday and immediately changed my Google Account password. Now when I try to track the Nexus 7 using Android Device Manager it shows that it has not been used since last Monday.
Capt-Capsaicin said:
So does Android Device Manager track the phone or tablet by the hardware signature or by Google account? I ask because I lost my Nexus 7 last Monday and immediately changed my Google Account password. Now when I try to track the Nexus 7 using Android Device Manager it shows that it has not been used since last Monday.
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Hardware i reckon, when i used this it let's me choose which device I've used with my Google account. It sees phone as different again when I've flashed a new ROM.
Crawshayi said:
In case you didn't know, Google has silently implemented FREE tracking for almost all androids. It also allows you to erase the phone if you feel that it's necessary, all you have to do is enable it as a device admin. I realize there have been apps on the market for a long time now that do this (and more) however Google doesn't require you to install or update any apps to use this service and from my brief testing it seems to work amazingly well right off the bat.
Go here and bookmark: https://www.google.com/android/devicemanager
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CM Team Announces CyanogenMod Account For Remote Device Wipe/Tracking, Dual-Release Branches For Better Security
Posted by Ryan Whitwam in News
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...ng-dual-release-branches-for-better-security/
CM guys still finding ways to 1-up google android :silly:
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Text and SMS display via bluetooth

Looking for opinions and suggestions for enabling texts and SMS messages to display on the MTCB unit while driving. What, if anything are you guys using?
I searched around already, and found one thread where someone was using tasker and other functions to get messages displayed on the unit from their phone, but that solution didn't appear to be very reliable.
Is there an app that everyone is using? Or am I just late to the party? lol
I realize quite a few of you are using 3G connections with your MTCB, so this conversation is more geared towards those utilizing their Bluetooth only phone connection.
thewesman said:
I realize quite a few of you are using 3G connections with your MTCB, so this conversation is more geared towards those utilizing their Bluetooth only phone connection.
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Even using a 3G/4G dongle cannot solve the SMS reception problem because these SMS are normally sent to the phone number, not to the 3G/4G SIM number. At most the dongle can be used to send SMS.
ATM no easy solution to this problem (and for social networks use too).
Have you looked at Tablet Talk? I'm not sure it would work over BT since the BT in these devices is locked down, but I believe there is also the option of using Wifi.
The other thread was mine and I was looking for the same thing
As mentioned above, I don't think it's actually possible with these units since it seems the Bluetooth is locked down. Can't remember the specific details but I'm sure it's to do with the Bluetooth service that handles the messages.
I could be wrong though but I know its not possible with tasker anyway and I don't think tablet talk works with Bluetooth cause I looked into that too. At the moment the way I do it is through data which as you say isn't quite as reliable
If you find anything though let me know
dc5daft said:
The other thread was mine and I was looking for the same thing
As mentioned above, I don't think it's actually possible with these units since it seems the Bluetooth is locked down. Can't remember the specific details but I'm sure it's to do with the Bluetooth service that handles the messages.
I could be wrong though but I know its not possible with tasker anyway and I don't think tablet talk works with Bluetooth cause I looked into that too. At the moment the way I do it is through data which as you say isn't quite as reliable
If you find anything though let me know
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That's why I started this thread, to see if anyone had made any breakthroughs since your initial post. I went ahead and wasted the money on Tablet Talk, and I can confirm that the Bluetooth connection is the issue (Error Code:1) with our units. This seems like such a basic feature that Android would be capable of... my wife's Jeep does it automatically in Uconnect.
One thing I was considering trying with TabletTalk is to go into the factory settings, with the 126 password, and toggle around the Bluetooth type the unit is currently using. I know saving anything in this menu will effectively reset my unit, unless I save settings in Xposed, so I need a block of time to try it that I don't have right now. If it would even make a difference.
thewesman said:
That's why I started this thread, to see if anyone had made any breakthroughs since your initial post. I went ahead and wasted the money on Tablet Talk, and I can confirm that the Bluetooth connection is the issue (Error Code:1) with our units. This seems like such a basic feature that Android would be capable of... my wife's Jeep does it automatically in Uconnect.
One thing I was considering trying with TabletTalk is to go into the factory settings, with the 126 password, and toggle around the Bluetooth type the unit is currently using. I know saving anything in this menu will effectively reset my unit, unless I save settings in Xposed, so I need a block of time to try it that I don't have right now. If it would even make a difference.
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That's a good idea actually! If I get some free time I'll have a go

itunes and apple music

We use apple music family ,bear with me,we like the way it works and the family are used to using it I know there are others etc etc etc...
But there is an issue , every time I reflash a ROM and sign in to apple music itunes logs it as a different device name which is generated by the ROM, but always a variant of one plus 3t ..
There is a limited of 10 devices before being locked out which has happened and I can't delete the devices off iTunes - you have to deactivate the device.each time which I can't now..so I'm in limbo now until apple reset it for me (possibly) .
But this will.keep happening unless there is a way to keep the device name the same regardless of which ROM is flashed - is there a way to do this?
p2daz said:
We use apple music family ,bear with me,we like the way it works and the family are used to using it I know there are others etc etc etc...
But there is an issue , every time I reflash a ROM and sign in to apple music itunes logs it as a different device name which is generated by the ROM, but always a variant of one plus 3t ..
There is a limited of 10 devices before being locked out which has happened and I can't delete the devices off iTunes - you have to deactivate the device.each time which I can't now..so I'm in limbo now until apple reset it for me (possibly) .
But this will.keep happening unless there is a way to keep the device name the same regardless of which ROM is flashed - is there a way to do this?
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Same boat as you, i just called apple support and explained i develop software for android (i don't) and have to wipe my phone a lot and they cleared all the devices straight away for me. Give apple care a call
manor7777 said:
Same boat as you, i just called apple support and explained i develop software for android (i don't) and have to wipe my phone a lot and they cleared all the devices straight away for me. Give apple care a call
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I sent an email stating the same really , got an automated response, I'll give it 24hours before calling them directly .
Its a shame really as it will keep happening and I do.like apple music so.it would be a shame to move onto something else
p2daz said:
I sent an email stating the same really , got an automated response, I'll give it 24hours before calling them directly .
Its a shame really as it will keep happening and I do.like apple music so.it would be a shame to move onto something else
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I just called Applecare, super easy, just say your having a problem with Apple music, and when it asks what device (it's an automated voice detection system) just say its not an apple device. They answer very quickly and it saves a bunch of emails to them but I hope you get it sorted none of the less. Apple music ain't bad
manor7777 said:
I just called Applecare, super easy, just say your having a problem with Apple music, and when it asks what device (it's an automated voice detection system) just say its not an apple device. They answer very quickly and it saves a bunch of emails to them but I hope you get it sorted none of the less. Apple music ain't bad
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I had an email waiting for me when I got up this morning , all old devices wiped clean, so fair play to apple for sorting out quickly but...
How do we stop it happening again? After we've flash a fresh ROM 10 times we'll be back here again.
Bit of an arse really ..

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