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Rooted G1 with Cyanogen... only 14 MB internal Memory left?

Ok Guys, new to this site, hopefully y'all can help me out.
I recently rooted my G1, Installed the latest Cyanogen (4.7.2.1) and installed a theme ( Marks Theme). I dont have very many apps cause I didnt want to bog down the phone memory.....
I love the set up but it started running slower even after I started running the over clocker widget.
My phone is only showing 14.18 MB of free internal memory. I went through my applications installed and can only find around 25 MB being used from all installed apps ( including browser and messaging etc.)
I even tried to do a factory reset ( by going through the settings) and the factory reset is not working. It changed nothing.
Is there something that Im missing? I feel like I should have much more free memory.
I love the way my phone works and the set up, I just wish it had more free memory so that it would run faster.
Ive thought about doing the Apps2SD but I feel like I chould have much more memory on my phone even before doing something like that.
PLEASE HELP!!!!!!

This is a question, and as such belongs in the Q&A section. You'll receive a better response to such things there.
The internal memory you're referring to is your /system partition.
It is where the entire OS is stored, basically. Which takes up, in your case, a whopping 55 MB (out of 70 MB).
If you //really// want more room, follow the Apps-2-SD tutorials out there. You'll get /plenty/ of space.

You could always upgrade to the new amon ra and then let it partition the sd card for you.Then you can have all that free phone storage for whatever it is.Bext time just try to restrict yourself from posting in wrong section
-Best regards

IConrad01 said:
This is a question, and as such belongs in the Q&A section. You'll receive a better response to such things there.
The internal memory you're referring to is your /system partition.
It is where the entire OS is stored, basically. Which takes up, in your case, a whopping 55 MB (out of 70 MB).
If you //really// want more room, follow the Apps-2-SD tutorials out there. You'll get /plenty/ of space.
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Thank you for the quick response. Is there a way to move this thread?
Also is there a better ROM that will take up less memory? I like this version but obviously it is wayy to large.
Anyone else running cyanogen 4.7.2.1 having this issue?

Most people using the Cyanogen ROM also utilize A2SD. Partition your SD card and you'll get more room.

pewterwest said:
Anyone else running cyanogen 4.7.2.1 having this issue?
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There is no issue, you just don't have an ext partition ergo, all applications are installed to your phone which is why you have low phone memory.

pewterwest said:
Thank you for the quick response. Is there a way to move this thread?
Also is there a better ROM that will take up less memory? I like this version but obviously it is wayy to large.
Anyone else running cyanogen 4.7.2.1 having this issue?
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Hello! app2SD will put the apps to ext...Then you will have more memory, why do you think people use it? To save even more money on geico?
Go here for the amon recovery...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669

Hi, first of this has nothing to do with development, should be in Q&A. Please remember for next time
OK, when you're on a custom ROM, don't use factory reset. Instead boot in to the recovery image and perform a wipe from there, and that's exactly what I'd suggest. Be prepared to loose everything stored on the phones memory, but you can use a backup app from the market for that... No you really should way more space than that, I can't really explain why...

IConrad01 said:
This is a question, and as such belongs in the Q&A section. You'll receive a better response to such things there.
The internal memory you're referring to is your /system partition.
It is where the entire OS is stored, basically. Which takes up, in your case, a whopping 55 MB (out of 70 MB).
If you //really// want more room, follow the Apps-2-SD tutorials out there. You'll get /plenty/ of space.
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The phone has two main partitions: /system and /data. It isn't /system that's filling up, it's /data (which makes sense...). The phone can't write to /system when it's unrooted, so it's not possible to store files there...

Everyone is trying to help but for a noob it can be a bit too much...4.2.7.1 is the best Rom available so keep that....RA Recovery is the best way to set up your memory card to accept your apps and keep them there freeing up a ton of space on the phone....simple way to fix is....Just format you sdcard with EXT3 using the RA-recovery v1.5.1 then once your card is formatted just reboot and Cyanogen's rom will move all the apps for you.....will not need to wipe any info on the phone that way...done it many times......Pm me if you need help!!!!
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some threads to help:
Ra - Recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669
OR-
[REF] manual partition of sdcard w/parted,goto ext3/4 from adb. no liveCD req'd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534714

Young Money. Cash Money.
(partition sd card)

The non rooted standard T-Mobile rom is about the same size and will give you about the same amount of free space. There could be a more barebones rom but I think it's just a lot easier to run Apps2SD then to create a rom that might get you an extra 10mb of internal space. This is the fault of the internal memory on the phone being small. The only way to fix that is getting Apps2sd running which if you make a partion of 100mb should be enough to install all the apps you need. Getting a larger SD card for $10 is also another option so you wont have 1/10th of your sd cards storage gone.

djdarkknight96 said:
Everyone is trying to help but for a noob it can be a bit too much...4.2.7.1 is the best Rom available so keep that....RA Recovery is the best way to set up your memory card to accept your apps and keep them there freeing up a ton of space on the phone....simple way to fix is....Just format you sdcard with EXT3 using the RA-recovery v1.5.1 then once your card is formatted just reboot and Cyanogen's rom will move all the apps for you.....will not need to wipe any info on the phone that way...done it many times......Pm me if you need help!!!!
EDIT:
some threads to help:
Ra - Recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669
OR-
[REF] manual partition of sdcard w/parted,goto ext3/4 from adb. no liveCD req'd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534714
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Guys thank you very much for your help..... i partioned my sd and now i have 58.8 MB free on internal.... you guys are great.
Is there anything else i can do besides rooting, apps2sd and overclocker to make even faster?

pewterwest said:
Guys thank you very much for your help..... i partioned my sd and now i have 58.8 MB free on internal.... you guys are great.
Is there anything else i can do besides rooting, apps2sd and overclocker to make even faster?
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You can always try different roms. CM is good and fast, but maybe try dwang 1.13 or Wesgarner version. wg is based on CM. I find it faster and more stable but this is just my opinion. if you back everything up with nandroid and some app like mybackup, you can flash all you want. you'll be able to get everything back with a nandroid/mybackup restore. try different stuff out and figure out what you like!

need help with apps2sd on Fresh rom

I just installed the latest version of the fresh Rom. The page for the rom says it will automagically use apps2sd If The card is formatted properly. I use the recovery rom (1.52) to format the card, with a 32mb swap and 512mb ext. But, iapps2sd doesn't seem to be working. I have rbooted, and I have also used the recovery Rom to " move apps and dalv to SD", but the apps are still taking up the phones internal memory.
Is there something I'm missing to activate apps2sd, or move the apps over?
Thanks

http://geekfor.me/faq/apps2sd/

I used the link, and got the response that it working. So why then are the apps still taking up the phone memory? Is this the usual response? What happens when it fills up? Is there anything left for me to do?

fx17 said:
I used the link, and got the response that it working. So why then are the apps still taking up the phone memory? Is this the usual response? What happens when it fills up? Is there anything left for me to do?
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Everytime you install or run things, internall memeory is still used for data and other items that are not the APK file. What is the memory amount you show as free? A2SD only moves APK's to the SD. Additionally you can move the dalvik-cache there as well, but internal memory still gets used by app data, widget data, etc.. You might have a bunch of widgets storing lots of data.
Ceger

Sorry to bring up an old thread...
I gotta say that I think there is something wrong with the version of Apps2SD on the Fresh ROM - or something isn't configured correctly.
I get the same issue (as do many others from the digging I have done) - and I KNOW that the programs I have installed aren't using up THAT much memory.
When I switch to any other ROM using A2SD - with all the same programs installed and no changes in the partitioning - I magically have 140 MB free of internal memory.
Any thoughts?

caguy83 said:
Sorry to bring up an old thread...
I gotta say that I think there is something wrong with the version of Apps2SD on the Fresh ROM - or something isn't configured correctly.
I get the same issue (as do many others from the digging I have done) - and I KNOW that the programs I have installed aren't using up THAT much memory.
When I switch to any other ROM using A2SD - with all the same programs installed and no changes in the partitioning - I magically have 140 MB free of internal memory.
Any thoughts?
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It works fine for me. Just follow the instructions on link provided above by flipz

Don't forget to upgrade ext2 to ext3
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Amon RA v1.2.2 Please help partitioning and loading rom) aka fresh install

Hello this is droidfreek and i am new to rooted phones. I am using t mobile g1 black
I am currently using a 1GB memory card and i would like a step by step guide to partitioning it and installing the ROM kind of like a fresh install but i would like to have more internal memory if you can do the math and all it would be a great help. I am tying to use Amon Ra v1.2.2(part sd :fat32+ext2+swap)
Can you also make one for a 4GB memory card

the size of the memory card doesnt change how to partition it... and well, there are plenty of tutorials out there already on how to flash a ROM.
And partitioning, well, thats really straightfoward with amonra's recovery.

Uuuuhhh... Why are you using Amon_Ra 1.2.2? Use the latest (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4647751&postcount=1). It works like a charm, except for reading corrupted sd cards. Well, nothing is good at. I need a new SD card. Sorry. I'm ranting now. Just use the latest.

Ty but just to verify does this whole partition thing work on a 1gb card

One gig is going to be a little small, but you can do it. 96 mb swap is preferred, and 512 mb for ext is also pretty good. It's going to be tight, but you can do it. Is this a class six? My class 2 only worked for about a month doing this. I'm not sure if its related, but...

blackjackboy said:
One gig is going to be a little small, but you can do it. 96 mb swap is preferred, and 512 mb for ext is also pretty good. It's going to be tight, but you can do it. Is this a class six? My class 2 only worked for about a month doing this. I'm not sure if its related, but...
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Can u please guide me step by step

How do you tell what class it is

DroidFreek said:
Can u please guide me step by step
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Boot into recovery, select "partition sd card" menu and follow on-screen prompts. This doesn't get any easier then that.

i tried it and it worked

do i need to install aps to sd

some roms either have that included already (you will need ext3 or ext4 depending on what the rom specifies) and you dont have to do anything for it except flash the rom.
other roms might have it as an option, and you just convert the ext2 to ext3 or ext4. For example, CSDI has it as an option and can either be enabled or disabled through supsetup.

Ok I've partitioned and loaded the rom and my phone is complete but I still. Have 32mb in my settings for internal and I set it to 96 even when I download my apps I still get low space do I need apps to sd or do I have to convert ex3 to ex4

I would like it to give me my full 96

If you have 32MB on a clean install then that's all you're going to have. What SPL do you have? Also, type
busybox df -h
in your terminal and post your output for us.

I don't know how to tell what kind of spl
But here is the output
My busy box kmoo sd Details $ su# busybox df -h Filesystem*************** Size***** Used Available Use% Mounted on tmpfs******************* 47.8M**** 12.0K**** 47.8M** 0% /dev tmpfs******************** 4.0M******** 0***** 4.0M** 0% /sqlite_stmt_journals/dev/block/mtdblock3 AO
So what do I do next

[Q] best partition for 2gb sd card (stock) ????

how should i partition my 2gb stock Kingston sd card because i am currently using Sparksmod 2.1 Rom and they require a ext3 or ext4 partition so i parititoned my sd card with a 32 mb linux swap partition and 512 mb ext 3 partition. At first everything was fine, but after a few weeksd my phone is REALLY SLOW and unstable.
EDIT: FAT 32 has 1423 MB
What should i do? Did i partition it the wrong way.

Upgrade you EXT to 4. See if that help.

BeenAndroidized said:
Upgrade you EXT to 4. See if that help.
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Ext2/3/4 has nothing to do with slowing down, most likely it's swap, especially when swappiness is set too high ...
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AndDiSa said:
Ext2/3/4 has nothing to do with slowing down, most likely it's swap, especially when swappiness is set too high ...
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I was thinking about that too, but since the SD card was only 2GB, space is limited. May be making the swap to 128MB instead of 62MB. might help then. And set the swappiness to the middle setting.

BeenAndroidized said:
I was thinking about that too, but since the SD card was only 2GB, space is limited. May be making the swap to 128MB instead of 62MB. might help then. And set the swappiness to the middle setting.
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It would be better to renounce on swap completely. If there is no chance, set swappiness at most to 20-30, but this depends also on your "profile", i.e. what apps you are using, what services are running, etc.
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Im not even sure if my phone is using swap at all and the rom doesnt need you to have swap so should i remove the 32 mb linux swap partition then?

Oh and i checked and i am not using swap
so if its not the swap then could it be the apps2sd ext?
Cuz i read somewhere that apps2sd makes the phone take longer to run apps
and this is what is happening to my phone the apps are lagging it, when i launch them they take at least 5 seconds to load, and when i use the browser my phone becomes really unstable.

Startup time for apps stored on sd-ext may be a bit longer, but do not change over the time. Are you using also data on sd? This might be a problem, if not, there must be something different ...
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how can i check if i am using data on the sd?

[Q] Help needed regarding link2sd w.r.t CM 10.1 (4.2.2)

Hi all,
Before i start, lotss of respect and millions of thanks for all the developers for their beautiful ROMs and everyone who are providing with brilliant solutions for almost every problem.
I'm totally new and this is the first time i am typing over here. Please forgive any noob mistakes that i might be doing and i'll make sure the same doesn't happen twice.
Since last couple of weeks i have started exploring my mini and i found the following issue.
At first, i used link2sd on ext2 partitioned sd card (as suggested by a link2sd tutorial) while using stock gingerbread(2.3.6) rom and was successful in installing over 90+ apps with still about 112 mb free in the internal memory.
Everything was smooth and was working fine.
Later, i flashed this Rom "cm-10.1-20130310-NIGHTLY-tass" onto my device and used ext4 partitioned sd card.
I opened link2sd and after specifying the external partition as ext4 and after rebooting the device, i got a warning message telling that link2sd failed to mount the ext4 disk. It instructed that i must reboot and try again.
After the reboot, link2sd detected ext4 partition.
But soon after filling the device with about 78 apps, the internal memory reduced to 60 mb. Also, in between while rebooting, in order to link all the files successfully onto sd ext, few apps would disappear.
Every time at boot the system mentions low internal memory and that some apps would not be working.
Boot takes a lot of time too (about 3-4 minutes).
I am linking dalvik-cache file, application file and the library file
Is there anything that i must and must not do?
Can ext4 partition be used on the mentioned ROM?
Is there any compatibility issue with link2sd on this ROM?
Kindly provide me with any feedback/suggestions.
I would be extremely grateful..
BTW.. amazing ROM.. super smooth and great performance
My first custom ROM and i love almost every bit of it

Aaaah.. now my internal memory has gone to few kb :crying:
is there any other way i can freshly install all my apps without encountering this issue? Now i'm desperate for some help

vipinbp said:
Aaaah.. now my internal memory has gone to few kb :crying:
is there any other way i can freshly install all my apps without encountering this issue? Now i'm desperate for some help
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The only soln to this is flash the rom again and any scirpts like crossbreeder and then flash Int2extn4+
this script moves all your app data to extn. il have installed 20 apps and my internal memory is 1GB
give a try, search in themes and app section(thread by Ashu.bigsmoke) :good:

why d you install so many apps, install apps that are important.
i use lastest antibillos' rom, no partition sdcard, i just move my apps to sdcard using link2sd. i still got almost 30mb on internal memory. i actually can increase the empty space on it, due to some apps which are not recommended to be moved to sdcard, so i didnt move it. by 30mb on my internal, my phone is smooth, this rom is really suit my phone.
well, backinup your apps and restore em whenever you need, uninstall when it is rarely used, is another choice.
*sorry for messy english.

Thanks guys
Will definitely try as per your suggestions and will report my observation..
I was observing that the /data/app folder consisted of actual application files even though i had linked them.
I deleted all the files from that particular folder and linked the applications again. Now i can see about 80mb free.. However, during boot i still get low memory alarm and the internal memory will be almost nil for few minutes. I guess the ext4 partition is not read during boot.
Why's that happening?
I presumed that ext4 partition would be read during boot.

Rohit02 said:
The only soln to this is flash the rom again and any scirpts like crossbreeder and then flash Int2extn4+
this script moves all your app data to extn. il have installed 20 apps and my internal memory is 1GB
give a try, search in themes and app section(thread by Ashu.bigsmoke) :good:
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I read about int2ext4+ and i got to know that we need to have 100mb free internal memory for 500mb of ext4 space!!
I currently use about 1.4gb for ext4, this technique makes it impossible for me to use even 500mb of ext4 partitioned space!!
What's the need for 100 mb free space for every 500 mb external space? I didn't quite get that..