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[Guide] How to install Android

As i see, more and more people are asking, how to install Android. And since previous tutorial is outdated, i will create new one.
So, first some theory. There are two types of releases: ones with ext2 partition and ones without. Second ones are much easier to install (just copy files to SD card), but ones with ext2 partition are faster and works overall better. All newer releases are with partitions.
So, how to install Android?
1. First we must prepare our SD Card. You will need 1GB+ Card. Some users are reporting that there are problems with several cards, so i suggest you stick to card you got with your X1 (it works 100%).
Now it's time to hook SD card to your computer. You can transfer files via X1, but I recommend getting a card reader, since file transfers will be more reliable then.
Before you begin, backup all your files on SD card. When partitioning, all data on your card will be deleted.
So, let's begin. Partitioning is fairly easy, but instead of writing this in text, i will show you video guide of creating partitions (thanks to user e334 for making this tutorial):
(Program in the video is Minitool Partiton Wizard. Grab home version from their page.)
2. After we properly make partition, it's time to download android build. Beware, that root of your SD card will be messy. There is a method to run it in folder (Andboot), but i didn't manage to make it right.
In the time of writing, (my opinion) best release is neopeek's SuperFroyo + v2c kernel. But releases are changing rapidly, since Android is still under development. I will try to update that page, but i suggest you always check the forums for some new releases.
As you can see, this release is in two parts (main release + kernel). But most of the time, there are releases with kernel included, so you don't have to download it separately. So anyway, download and extract main release, kernel and modules into root of the SD card (leave modules in .tar.gz file!).
After copying, use safely remove hardware before disconnecting SD card.
Now it's time for big final. Open file explorer on your X1, navigate to StorageCard\npkinstall folder and click install. If you have done everything right, your phone should go into "text mode" (black screen with bunch of text) and after about a minute, it should start displaying long list of files. That means it's installing android to EXT2 partition. When installation finishes, it will automatically reboot.
Your X1 Android is ready to use now. To launch android, open file explorer, navigate to \StorageCard and tap HARET. Again, it should start displaying text and after that logo should appear. When android appears to be loaded (start wizard pops up), leave it for another several minutes, so Android can initialize all background stuff it needs to.
Happy Androiding!
Frequently Asked Questions
How to return to Windows Mobile?
Simply restart your device. Android won't alter Windows Mobile or on board storage at all, so your windows mobile stays intact.
So, now my Windows mobile is running in background?
No. HARET will shut down Windows Mobile, so Android can have all the memory for himself.
Battery life is very short
Yes, android power management is not very good. But it's getting better, especially last days there were some major improvements in that area.
Camera/FM Radio/Something don't work
Android is still under development, so not all features are working yet.
I can't see my new EXT2 partition in windows
That's OK. Only linux sistems like Android and Ubuntu can see EXT2 partition. Although, you can install 3rd party software, that can add ext2 support to windows (google for "ext2 windows").
How big should i make ext2 partition?
EXT2 partition is system partition for Android. It needs to be big enough to fit all android system files in, but there is no point to make it too big, since data is stored to SD card anyway. Somewhere between 300 and 500MB should be fine. Make it 512 if you have space to spare or 300 if you are really low on SD card space.
I can't enter my SIM PIN!
PIN is currently not working in Android. Turn off PIN in Windows Mobile.

matejdro.. you are one of the best "teachers" thanks a lot.. very kind if you could update this threat everytime if something is new, because there are a lot of new kernels and things coming in.. i try to get in to this matter but at the moment all i understand is.. chinese mixed with japanese.. hehehe

Hey, please, can you add "how install dual boot" in this guide? I really need it, sorry my bad english
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How big the ex2 partion must be? 300 ,500mb?
EDit: i have made the ext2 and the fat32 partition but i can only see the FAT32 in windows. Am I missing something?

viper. said:
How big the ex2 partion must be? 300 ,500mb?
EDit: i have made the ext2 and the fat32 partition but i can only see the FAT32 in windows. Am I missing something?
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Nothing is wrong.
Actually, Windows can't read an ext2 partition, because it's a linux-based partition.
About the size.. i don't know, but i followed the tut' and put the same size. It works well.

Oggy972 said:
Nothing is wrong.
Actually, Windows can't read an ext2 partition, because it's a linux-based partition.
About the size.. i don't know, but i followed the tut' and put the same size. It works well.
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Yep, i have realised that windows7 is unable to read that partition because i did install the android on it and everything went fine. My partition is 450mb large and its working normally. This is so much better then other xdandroid version beacuse with this build you can connect x1 and the pc via usb .

Added both questions to FAQ.

thank you so much for this!

can someone please give the proper instructions on how to use the andboot floder does the folder have to start with capital?
and the v3c kernel needs to be run using someother programs and methords which are there in that thread can you help me with them?

Is it necessary to leave some unallocated space on SD card as shown on video ? And what size of swap partition should be ?

I'm not sure why he left unallocated space, but it's not necessary.
For swap partition, I'm not even sure if android uses it. You can live without it.

hello
I need help
If i start the exe it boot.
But when it is finished it restarts and then there is windows .
Whats wrong ?

Have you done everything correctly? Delete everything and try again.
Also, what is your battery level?

I have successfully install Android with ext2 partition on my X1. But, when I boot to Android, it always hang.
Sometime it hang at the first boot (when Android ask me to configure Google account to sync), sometime it hang when I try to change Android setting, sometime it hang when I play music, but often it hang when I put Android on standby (I press the power button).
I use 4GB SD card and partitioned it into two partition, FAT32 2,5GB and ext2 450MB.
I have try two Android build : CyanogenMod 6.1 and X1-frg83-06112010. Both have the same problem. I also try replace the kernel (zImage) with sp3dev, but the problem still there.
The other thing I try was extract androidinstall.tar.gz directly to my ext2 partition, but Android still hang.
Do you ever encounter this problem? How to fix this?

Hello
Now i have android all is ok and does go.
But one problem if i press the ok and the other buttons does go.
But a little time later no buton does go anymore.
Whats the problem ?

Signing in...
Hi,
All went well.
Now 1st boot it tries to get to me google.
Nothing happens.
It tells me 5 minutes, but that was 10 minutes ago
I am on 3G
Any help?
Edit: (Will boot again, and let you know if it works.)
Edit: Rebooted, and skipped the google account login. Will try with WiFi on loging into google again.

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Sorry, i don't understand you. What is bugging you?

Help... SD won't detect

Okay, it's irritating. try googling but it is not even a search result or probably I'm a dumb.
I got pissed right now. After try an android on X1 and feel I like it, it's stucked at somewhat. So I soft reset it and now when log in to WinMo it asked me to format the SD Card, after i try it. the SD is till not detected.
Then plug USB Cable but still the computer just sound beep twice and show none in my Computer.
I try to remove the SD to my Aspen and Nokia 5800 but they also can't detect it. I have no micro SD reader or adapter so I can't try on PC.
Help me.

VSJ said:
Help me.
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"Please" would have been a nice addition here
Not sure what you might have messed up with Android, but to check the SD there's only two options:
get a new one and try again or
get yourself a µSD reader of any kind, shouldn't be too expensive
BTW: You say you installed Android and after soft reset you are in WinMo again? That doesn't sound like really having "installed" Android to me - might be an idea to post your question where you got whatever you installed on your phone to get the Android feeling.....

louis0815 said:
"Please" would have been a nice addition here
Not sure what you might have messed up with Android, but to check the SD there's only two options:
get a new one and try again or
get yourself a µSD reader of any kind, shouldn't be too expensive
BTW: You say you installed Android and after soft reset you are in WinMo again? That doesn't sound like really having "installed" Android to me - might be an idea to post your question where you got whatever you installed on your phone to get the Android feeling.....
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I'm sorry 'please' has several meaning in my culture. My culture prohibit a girl to ask 'please' to anonymous. If that word helpful, okay, please help me.
English isn't my language so you might interpret what I want to say wrongly.
Android is installed and I had run it for days. Once upon time, in the middle of proccessing something, it stuck so I did a soft reset. Then I boot into Windows Mobile (not Android) -DualBOOT- and Windows Mobile ask me to format microSD Card but after it is formatted, the card is invisible. update: I borrow my friend's an imported SD Card, microSD is detected but the computer ask to insert in it.

VSJ said:
My culture prohibit a girl to ask 'please' to anonymous.
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OK, couldn't see that (neither your gender nor your origin) - was not meant offensive though
English isn't my language so you might interpret what I want to say wrongly.
Android is installed and I had run it for days. Once upon time, in the middle of proccessing something, it stuck so I did a soft reset. Then I boot into Windows Mobile (not Android) -DualBOOT- and Windows Mobile ask me to format microSD Card but after it is formatted, the card is invisible. update: I borrow my friend's an imported SD Card, microSD is detected but the computer ask to insert in it.
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dualBoot was the missing detail for me.....
Purely guessing as I am not an Android expert:
Were you able to boot into WinMo before that "crash"?
Were you able to boot into Android after the crash?
Can Android handle FAT32 formatted cards?

louis0815 said:
OK, couldn't see that (neither your gender nor your origin) - was not meant offensive though
dualBoot was the missing detail for me.....
Purely guessing as I am not an Android expert:
Were you able to boot into WinMo before that "crash"?
Were you able to boot into Android after the crash?
Can Android handle FAT32 formatted cards?
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It's Okay,
Yes no problem before. I'm not sure how my card formatted but it's original coming from the package.

Try to format SD card in computer with FAT32.
For dual boot you have make partition formated with Ext2 right? What prograd did you use for partitioning of SD? Minitool partition? Try to delete partitions used for Android.

Hi VSJ,
are u using XDAAndroid from frayaab, (I see ur post there too). My SD is also fried out. You're not alone. at least, there're 2-3 people who have the same problem. Someone said that the SD is fried out.
louis0815 said:
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Were you able to boot into Android after the crash?
Can Android handle FAT32 formatted cards?
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RBRiddick said:
Try to format SD card in computer with FAT32.
For dual boot you have make partition formated with Ext2 right? What prograd did you use for partitioning of SD? Minitool partition? Try to delete partitions used for Android.
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You should know that in X1 port Android, There are two types of releases: ones with ext2 partition and ones without. And I think this girl have android without EXT2 partition. Anyway question if Android can detect is is pretty lame, no offense, I think if the Storage Card isn't working how can you run the Android...
Don't you read that the card isn't detected. It's pretty clear, our problem that the card isn't even detected from OS File Explorer. How can that ur suggested software can detect it?

Hi VSJ, I want to update you. I've asked my friend w/o lucky and bring the card to SESC, I can assure you that SE won't guaranty SD Card.

Thank you for trying to help me.
Since the problem is occurred to many people, I dunno think that the Android only killed mine. I'm giving up. I think it's over a hardware issue.
The developer of the android also has no idea why the problem can be occurred.

[GUIDE] Link2sd setup and installation

I can no longer support this thread. I apologize I will leave it here for people that may find it helpful.
Hey guys I have read several posts were people are having issues with some Roms with sense 3.0,etc.
This guide should help those experiencing the following issues:
1) Have apps on your sd card and icons for those apps on one of your home screens but when you reboot your phone the icons disappear or change to the green standard app icon. icon may or may not still open the app.
2) Mount SD card to a PC while the phone is on. After disconnecting it, the phone shows a message on the screen for preparing SD and afterward, the SD card can be browsed. However, apps that have been moved to SD do not show up in the app tray until the phone is restarted.
Important before doing any of this please note this process can render your SD card useless if you make a mistake. Please follow all steps completely and know that I am not responsible if you mess up your sd card
This process is done from your pc not phone! Things you will need:
1) your Incredible
2) Your micro SD card
3) A micro SD to SD card adapter - this if your dont know=
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Here is what you should try:
1) Download Link2sd from the android market. Don't open it just yet your phone is not ready.
2) From your pc download Minitool partition wizard for your appropriate system. Install the wizard by following the instructions that appear when you download it. At the end it will ask to create a desktop icon check yes so you can find it easy.
3)Turn off your incredible and remove the micro SD card and place it in the adapter. Plug it into your PC.
4) create a new folder on your desktop and name it "sdbackup" or whatever you would like just remember were it is. Copy the entire contents of your micro sd card to the sdbackup folder you just created. This may take a while depending on the amount of files you have.
5) after backing up your sd card. Open the minitool partition wizard. You should see your sd card. Caution do not do anything with your c drive or any other drives listed under disk 1 Mine is under disk 2 labeled D:E1292
6) click on your sd card. In the left pane of the wizard choose format partition. choose FAT32 as your file system and leave cluster size and label blank. click ok.
7) click your sd card. In the left pane again of the wizard choose move/resize partition. On the window that pops up click partition size. uncheck the use extended data protection mode. type in the amount of megabytes or gigabytes you want your sd card regular storage area to be. In this guide im using a 1gb sd card. I typed in 700 to create a 700 mb regular area. Leave all other boxes alone. So if you have say an 8gb card i would type 7000 to give you roughly 7gb main. click ok. you should now see your main sd card and another one below it now with a *as its name.
first
second
third new partition created
8) ok almost there: Now on the new unallocated partition we just created ( one with the star as its name) click on it. At the top of the wizard click create. You will get a message saying the new created partition cannot be used in windows...... just click yes to continue. In the window that pops up pay attention click create as and select primary! click file system and select Ext3! Leave all other boxes etc alone. You will see the partition size that will be created. click ok.
message you will get:
Creating the partition:
9) Ok here we go.... In the top left of the wizard you should see a check mark that says apply..... Click it! You will get a message saying apply pending changes, disable power savers etc... click yes to continue.. do not let screen saver come on after this and do not allow computer to "sleep". Let the wizard do its thing. This can take some time depending on your system, sizes, etc. You get a dialog box to let you know whats going on. When the wizard finishes you will get a message saying apply all pending changes successful. Click ok...
You can exit the wizard now.
The wizard dialog box when you click the check mark..
10) place all your files back on your sd card. Find the folder you created with your sd backup in it. Select all files and copy them back to your sd card. Dont worry about the second partition as windows will only see the first FAT32 one.
Thats the partition link2sd needs now to set up link2sd:
1) place your SD card back in your incredible and reboot.
2) find your link2sd app you downloaded and open it. The program will load. A box will appear that instructs you to select the file system type of your second partition. Select Ext3!
3) Link2sd will do a few things and ask for superuser permissions.. When this box pops up click remember on superuser permissions!
4) Link2sd will tell you the scipt to mount the second partition was flashed (installed),etc.
5) it will then tell you to restart your phone to mount the second partition. Just do a normal reboot!
6) once the phone has rebooted go back and open link2sd again. You should get a whats new box with the changes to link2sd.
7) to check just to make sure it worked click menu/storage info it should look something like this.
Now you can use link2sd!
Enjoy please say thanks if I helped. I will try to answer any questions you have. This may be possible to do while the sd card is in the phone with it attached to computer but I did not chance this so wont be able to help in that area.

Yay!
Sense 3.5 almost here!

This' very useful information eraste!
Thank you

Truckin'Ain't4Sissies said:
This' very useful information eraste!
Thank you
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Your welcome just trying to do my part lol.

Not to be thick, but I believe I have run Partition Magic on other drives (for other than Android use). Can't you repartition the card on the fly (using the PC) without a complete reformat?

May be possible with this wizard. Skip the format step and everything else should go normal. One would start from the move/resise step. After editing what you want I however can't recall if this particular widget will format both when you apply changes. I'll look into it when I get some free time.
I put the backup and format step in just to make sure things go smooth. It should work without that first format tho...

Lost \emmc mount to PC
Eraste -
I found your guide tremendously helpful and was able to set up the ext3 partition without a problem.
Thing is, I cannot mount \emmc to PC, and I used to be able to.
I didn't lose it after doing this; I lost it on a prior ROM (Nils Business Gingersense 2.1/3.0 v3.0) after flashing a new kernel. After that, nothing I did, old nandroids, reflashing, restored it.
Now I'm on McSense 2.4 which is fairly close to stock OTA Gingerbread for the Incredible, and I have Links2SD running fine, and I have SD card mount, but I still don't seem to be able to get emmc to mount.
Any suggestions?
EDIT - Okay, it's 19 days later, I've wiped the system several times, installed two other ROM's ran Jermaine's/Tiny's ext4 mod which moves \data\data to ext4 and just plugged my Incredible back into the PC for the first time on this particular combination of ROM's and mods and, lookit that, mount to emmc has spontaneously returned. I'll never figure this one out. (Except that ext3 is still there, but Link2SD doesn't have anything linked at all right now, because I don't need the space without a 150mb limitation on \data\data on a Sense 1.0 ROM.

Help Me!!
have no idea how to stop memory back and was doing all the procedure like this in the tutorial and it does not work says that the installation script can not be created, could help me?

thumbs up for this!!
thank you (pressed thanks) for this step by step guide!! ive been looking for this for a while!!
what really helped was the screenies of the program on how the whole thing worked!!
tested on my old 2gb microsd= WORKED!! tested it with a newly installed app of course!!
will be trying it on my new 8gb microsdhc
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vico.ddl said:
have no idea how to stop memory back and was doing all the procedure like this in the tutorial and it does not work says that the installation script can not be created, could help me?
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try the "ext2" format option.. as all devices are compatible with it
hope that helps!!

you should decrease the size of the 2nd part because file store in there is so little, the main is half full

now that i have 2nd partition and link2sd, where should i start? i mean where should my app stored before creating link? and there are 3 files to be link, wich to be link?

thankss bro this very usefull ......nice:highfive:

Thanks for the guide, although i have trouble installing. Once I open link2sd (ext3 partition created n all) i select ext3 as secondary partition and i get "script cannot be installed" error, mount:mounting/dev//block/vold/179:2 on data/sdext2 failed: Device or resource busy
Any suggestions please?
Edit:solved by wiping and reformatting ext partition on pc

is there a way to manually do what link2sd does
like via shell

BM first.. will try it later after i buy 16GB SD.. thanks

Big thanks!! wonderful guide!

[webtop] webtop2sd discussion (currently version 2.0.1)

Note: Please keep this thread restricted to Bionic-specific issues. Atrix (and general) webtop2sd issues should be discussed in this thread instead. Threads for other devices are referenced at the top of the main webtop2sd thread.
Discuss webtop2sd here (the other thread will be kept clean for announcements, FAQs, etc.).
Before you report an issue:
Make sure it's not on the Known Issues list first!.
Basic debugging, since these are going to be questions I ask anyways:
If you hit problems with the Android webtop2sd application, you'll need to tell me the error, and give me the last few lines of adb logcat. Run this adb command, which will filter out most of the unimportant lines:
adb logcat ActivityManager:i AndroidRuntime:i webtop2sd:i *:s
Are you actually booting from your SD card? You can find this out by checking the Diagnostics tab in webtop2sd, under "Currently mounted webtops". If webtop isn't listed, you're not booted from your SD card. If this is the case, report what ROM you're running from.
Don't worry about webtop-configurator on the Droid Bionic for now. The current version won't work, but the next version will.
Note: One of the early updates will involve being able to create a filesystem file in /data so that you don't need an SD card (something that was present in earlier versions of my scripts but ended up being impractical for the Atrix, but is quite practical for the Bionic).
Thanks to tallnerd1985, who made this port possible.

Make some noise people! Looking forward to this! 900M /osh just doesn't cut it

I'm personally stoked for this. have some spare mini sd cards just calling my name to be used.....
Sogarth, you da man. tallnerd, same goes for you.

Natronics said:
I'm personally stoked for this. have some spare mini sd cards just calling my name to be used.....
Sogarth, you da man. tallnerd, same goes for you.
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Hell, since our phone is so much better than the Atrix as far as storage space goes, we will not need to use our slow sdcards, we can use part of the 8gb of internal memory for the Webuntu partition.

you know, I'm glad you said that. I was hoping we could change that partition. Use up some of that extra space.

tallnerd1985 said:
Hell, since our phone is so much better than the Atrix as far as storage space goes, we will not need to use our slow sdcards, we can use part of the 8gb of internal memory for the Webuntu partition.
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Sorry, but somebody else is going to have to figure out how to repartition the internal memory. That's one of those things that I'm not going to touch with a 20-ft pole....
The main reason I don't want to use /mnt/sdcard for a file is that it will then cause some pretty severe problems if you ever try to mount that from a computer (since Android won't be able to unmount /mnt/sdcard, since the filesystem file is still in use). I suppose if you wanted to guarantee that you would never, ever want to get to contents of /mnt/sdcard over USB, maybe, but that's not something I'd want to try to enforce.

so back to the sdcard-ext partition.
out of curiosity, how large are you making the webuntu partition?

Natronics said:
so back to the sdcard-ext partition.
out of curiosity, how large are you making the webuntu partition?
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How big do you want it? Picture from the webtop2sd development thread:
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Minimimum: 1 GB.

that's a loaded question. lol. and like a boss I almost spit my coffee out when I saw that pic.
4 gigs looks fine to me....i see you've got it set to 7790 as the max. thats perfect. Didn't realize your app would allow adjustment of the partition size. forgive me.

Natronics said:
that's a loaded question. lol. and like a boss I almost spit my coffee out when I saw that pic.
4 gigs looks fine to me....i see you've got it set to 7790 as the max. thats perfect. Didn't realize your app would allow adjustment of the partition size. forgive me.
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Who said 7,790 MB is the max? That was just because it was an 8 GB card I was testing with.

lol. roger that. makes sense that it could be set to the size of whatever card you have.

Would it be possible to install the system partitions to /osh and have /usr and /home on the
Sd card or is that useless with class 10 cards? Not sure about the speed of the internal memory. If it's faster it would be a worthy feature...
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xaero252 said:
Would it be possible to install the system partitions to /osh and have /usr and /home on the
Sd card or is that useless with class 10 cards? Not sure about the speed of the internal memory. If it's faster it would be a worthy feature...
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afaik, internal memory is going to be a fair amount faster than an SD card. Also, /home is a symlink to /data/home, so it wouldn't end up on the SD card anyways. At that point, /osh/usr is going to be most of /osh, so you might as well just have all of /osh live on the SD card.

Any progress on webtop2sd? I'm completely out of space with the limited amount... Can't wait till this is ready
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2.0.0 (October 10, 2011):
Multi-device support.

Sogarth said:
2.0.0 (October 10, 2011):
Multi-device support.
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Link?
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runandhide05 said:
Link?
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I tend to leave the bulk of content on the main webtop2sd thread, which is pointed to from the first post.

Sogarth said:
I tend to leave the bulk of content on the main webtop2sd thread, which is pointed to from the first post.
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sorry i see it, my bad.. im so impatient sometimes, executing right now... cant wait

i read you told us how to report issues if it is not working properly so u can help us out, but how/ what info do u need if it will not execute?
I am running rom rebluerd3d 1.5
After configuring the partition and location, I hit go on execute tab, unmount SD card,
Partition complete formatting both partions complete,
SD card is then remounted,
Execution complete
Extraction complete
Calculation list
Calculation complete
Synchonizing files from mmcblk1p24 to mmcblk0p2...(screen cuts of can't see the exact directory)
Sync complete
Config mmcblk0p2...
Proplem occurred configuring the target partition. Aborting

runandhide05 said:
i read you told us how to report issues if it is not working properly so u can help us out, but how/ what info do u need if it will not execute?
I am running rom rebluerd3d 1.5
After configuring the partition and location, I hit go on execute tab, unmount SD card,
Partition complete formatting both partions complete,
SD card is then remounted,
Execution complete
Extraction complete
Calculation list
Calculation complete
Synchonizing files from mmcblk1p24 to mmcblk0p2...(screen cuts of can't see the exact directory)
Sync complete
Config mmcblk0p2...
Proplem occurred configuring the target partition. Aborting
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Heres a screen shot of progress
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Rooted but need help with ROM

I rooted with TWRP on my virgin mobile phone. I wanted to get rid of the internal storage crap. I have 4 Gig internal storage it shows 2.8 of that being used in "other" storage. I really want to remove it to free up phone space.
I downloaded titanium backup but after uninstalling apps it reboots and eventually everything pops back in. I've also tried link 2 sd with slightly more success.
I thought if I could just make all new apps download to the sd that should help, but even though the terminal emulator says the sd is the primary storage it's still loading to the phone first.
If I install a new ROM will that get rid of all the other stuff and let me download to the SD?
Also, I haven't been able to get S-off to work yet, will I still be able to put a new ROM in?
I only somewhat know what I'm doing, I could use a lot of direction. Thanks
Oh also, I can't backup in recovery because it says I don't have enough storage space :/

Apriljoanne said:
I rooted with TWRP on my virgin mobile phone. I wanted to get rid of the internal storage crap. I have 4 Gig internal storage it shows 2.8 of that being used in "other" storage. I really want to remove it to free up phone space.
I downloaded titanium backup but after uninstalling apps it reboots and eventually everything pops back in. I've also tried link 2 sd with slightly more success.
I thought if I could just make all new apps download to the sd that should help, but even though the terminal emulator says the sd is the primary storage it's still loading to the phone first.
If I install a new ROM will that get rid of all the other stuff and let me download to the SD?
Also, I haven't been able to get S-off to work yet, will I still be able to put a new ROM in?
I only somewhat know what I'm doing, I could use a lot of direction. Thanks
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You unfortunately cant get the rest of the 4GB space back. The only amount of space you'll ever be able to get is a little over 1GB which goes down after a rom install... The reason for that is because HTC was stupid and on all the other partitions there's a bunch of unused space... There's about 10 partitions with at least 175MB FREE on all of them. Why HTC did that is beyond me and most other devs.. Now about getting rid of the bloatware crap, if you don't first install another kernel with write protection removed like this one Kernel write protection removed click here then every time you reboot it's all just going to reinstall itself. So in order to stop that you must flash the kernel in TWRP and then go back and remove everything you want to. Just be careful which stuff you remove but if I was you and you really should do this before doing anything, go back into TWRP and create a backup of your current system so if anything ever goes wrong you can simply restore it and be ok...
Edit.. The reason you can't make the backup in TWRP is because it's set to internal space... At the top after you tap INSTALL change it from internal to SD and then tap home and make your backup.

MrMike2182 said:
You unfortunately cant get the rest of the 4GB space back. The only amount of space you'll ever be able to get is a little over 1GB which goes down after a rom install... The reason for that is because HTC was stupid and on all the other partitions there's a bunch of unused space... There's about 10 partitions with at least 175MB FREE on all of them. Why HTC did that is beyond me and most other devs.. Now about getting rid of the bloatware crap, if you don't first install another kernel with write protection removed like this one Kernel write protection removed click here then every time you reboot it's all just going to reinstall itself. So in order to stop that you must flash the kernel in TWRP and then go back and remove everything you want to. Just be careful which stuff you remove but if I was you and you really should do this before doing anything, go back into TWRP and create a backup of your current system so if anything ever goes wrong you can simply restore it and be ok...
Edit.. The reason you can't make the backup in TWRP is because it's set to internal space... At the top after you tap INSTALL change it from internal to SD and then tap home and make your backup.
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Oh I see. Thanks for the info. I did set to the sd card but still got an error. I'm trying to format my card now to see if that helps. Do I partition it before backing up?
Also do I run the kernel before installing a new ROM? Or if I run the kernel do you think I'm fine to just keep the HTC one I have and be no worse off?
Eventually I'd like to be able to tether my phone but can't think of any other super special features I'd use

Apriljoanne said:
Oh I see. Thanks for the info. I did set to the sd card but still got an error. I'm trying to format my card now to see if that helps. Do I partition it before backing up?
Also do I run the kernel before installing a new ROM? Or if I run the kernel do you think I'm fine to just keep the HTC one I have and be no worse off?
Eventually I'd like to be able to tether my phone but can't think of any other super special features I'd use
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Well if you've never used the SD card with the phone and you don't have nothing important on it then yes I'd recommend you format it and TWRP can help with that in the WIPE section.. You can just flash the kernel now and you'll be fine but you'll need the kernel on your SD card so you can select it in TWRP... So first take care of your SD card so it works with the phone before flashing a kernel.. You'd be fine keeping the rom you have..
Edit: You are from the USA correct? Just making sure so I know if your phone is 32 bit and not 64 bit... I'm pretty sure you're 32 bit though since you have TWRP installed.
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Apriljoanne said:
Oh I see. Thanks for the info. I did set to the sd card but still got an error.
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What error was it that you got after you set it to the sd card? Do you recall?

MrMike2182 said:
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Edit: You are from the USA correct? Just making sure so I know if your phone is 32 bit and not 64 bit... I'm pretty sure you're 32 bit though since you have TWRP installed.
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What error was it that you got after you set it to the sd card? Do you recall?
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It was not enough memory error but I got it fixed.
YeYes US.
I got the backup done and have the kernel installed on my sd card. so close! Is it possible to flash without connecting to the pc?
Are there instructions to do it through the emulator maybe?

Apriljoanne said:
It was not enough memory error but I got it fixed.
YeYes US.
I got the backup done and have the kernel installed on my sd card. so close! Is it possible to flash without connecting to the pc?
Are there instructions to do it through the emulator maybe?
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Yes you don't need a PC to flash a kernel... What version of TWRP did you install? Because if you use the 2.8.7.0 version of TWRP and up, you can flash from right inside of TWRP all you'd have to do is select install and navigate to where the kernel is on the SD but there's a toggle button on the lower right after you tap install to change it from a zip file to an image file and you MUST fist change it to the image setting otherwise it will not "see" the kernel.img that's on the SD... If you don't have this version then open the play store and download Flashify and flash the kernel while the phone is on and then just reboot after flashing it but be warned Flashify only lets you flash 3 times a day unless you buy the pro version but since you only need to flash one thing "kernel", you'll be ok to use it if you need to and you also have to give it root permission before you can flash.

Yea turns out my twrp version didn't have the option. Well I think I got it done with falshify, the kernel version matches although the baseband version numbers differ
Hopefully I'm all set now!

Apriljoanne said:
Yea turns out my twrp version didn't have the option. Well I think I got it done with falshify, the kernel version matches although the baseband version numbers differ
Hopefully I'm all set now!
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The Baseband numbers are fine, they're not supposed to match.. As long as you can see that the kernel was flashed by going into settings and about phone there's info in there that will show you if the kernel was installed and another way to test to see if it worked is to uninstall or delete a few apps that are bloatware and then reboot the phone and if they don't reinstall themselves then yep you're good to go! I'm rather surprised that a woman is doing what you are because most guys are freaking clueless and want someone to hold their hand through every single step haha..
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Apriljoanne said:
Hopefully I'm all set now!
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If you need anything else, just let me know.

Lol well my husband tried to root it and couldn't figure it out so I had to do it
I screwed something up just now though. The apps like Facebook and chrome still won't move completely to the SD card. The partition looks good but they're still locked to internal memory even with the kernel.
I'm also running busy box so I'm not sure what's wrong.
And now I keep getting a pop-up that android.process.media isn't working :/ I'm about ready to give up I was able to download a few more apps but then something went wrong and now the play store gives a error message about usb storage... I'll probably have to run my recovery. No idea what I did wrong.

Apriljoanne said:
Lol well my husband tried to root it and couldn't figure it out so I had to do it
I screwed something up just now though. The apps like Facebook and chrome still won't move completely to the SD card. The partition looks good but they're still locked to internal memory even with the kernel.
I'm also running busy box so I'm not sure what's wrong.
And now I keep getting a pop-up that android.process.media isn't working :/ I'm about ready to give up I was able to download a few more apps but then something went wrong and now the play store gives a error message about usb storage... I'll probably have to run my recovery. No idea what I did wrong.
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Just go into TWRP and tap wipe and then wipe just the Cache and Dalvic cache... Some apps you cannot move because they really need to be on the internal storage to gain access to certain files. Go into settings and tap storage then scroll all the way down in there should be an option to install to the SD card make sure all the boxes are ticked. If the WIPE doesn't stop your problem then you'll need to restore but be a little more careful next time.. Try moving a few things at a time and reboot then wait a few minutes to make sure it doesn't throw any errors like that and if it does, at least you'll only have a small amount of apps to move back and go through to find out which one did it lol..

Yeah, I don't know what happened. I had link2sd and apps2sd and changed some settings. Next thing I know, bam, not working.
But I wiped and it is good so long as the SD card is not mounted. If I mount the SD card it throws the android error again. SO I am formatting the card AGAIN. Yaaaaayyyy. I think partitioning it on my phone wasn't the best idea. So I;m connected to a computer now, and figure while I'm here I will update the TWRP version and maybe install a new ROM for the hell of it.

Apriljoanne said:
Yeah, I don't know what happened. I had link2sd and apps2sd and changed some settings. Next thing I know, bam, not working.
But I wiped and it is good so long as the SD card is not mounted. If I mount the SD card it throws the android error again. SO I am formatting the card AGAIN. Yaaaaayyyy. I think partitioning it on my phone wasn't the best idea. So I;m connected to a computer now, and figure while I'm here I will update the TWRP version and maybe install a new ROM for the hell of it.
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The SD card has to be partitioned a certain way.. To use Link2SD you have to have 2 partitions one MUST be ext4 because that's what your phone uses as a format type.. The other has to be fat32 or similar... They both must also be set as primary.. I used Mini Tool Partition on the PC to format my SD card but you can find another one... If you don't format it correctly it isn't going to work. Also, a new rom is not going to help anything and unfortunately the stock rom is the best one to use for now because the others have problems.

MrMike2182 said:
The SD card has to be partitioned a certain way.. To use Link2SD you have to have 2 partitions one MUST be ext4 because that's what your phone uses as a format type.. The other has to be fat32 or similar... They both must also be set as primary.. I used Mini Tool Partition on the PC to format my SD card but you can find another one... If you don't format it correctly it isn't going to work. Also, a new rom is not going to help anything and unfortunately the stock rom is the best one to use for now because the others have problems.
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ext4? I was using this tutorial http://www.techinbuzz.com/how-to-partition-sd-card-for-link2sd-using-minitool/ it says for stock ROM to use ext2? That's what I did the first time. But maybe I will try 4 because I have yet to have it work without a hitch.

Apriljoanne said:
ext4? I was using this tutorial http://www.techinbuzz.com/how-to-partition-sd-card-for-link2sd-using-minitool/ it says for stock ROM to use ext2? That's what I did the first time. But maybe I will try 4 because I have yet to have it work without a hitch.
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Use ext4 for the HTC Desire 510... Most people on here trust me. When you tapped wipe in TWRP didn't you see it say formatting with ext4?

MrMike2182 said:
Use ext4 for the HTC Desire 510... Most people on here trust me. When you tapped wipe in TWRP didn't you see it say formatting with ext4?
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Don't worry oyu have my trust I really appreciate all your help today.
I don't remember seeing it but it's possible. I've got it partitioned again with the ext4 this time. I did get 1GB of memory freed up on my phone so that's definitely a plus. If I can move all the apps I download from here on out to the SD card I think I will be able to use my phone quite happily now! :good:
Or I'll be back tomorrow with more problems hahaha either is possible

Apriljoanne said:
Don't worry oyu have my trust I really appreciate all your help today.
I don't remember seeing it but it's possible. I've got it partitioned again with the ext4 this time. I did get 1GB of memory freed up on my phone so that's definitely a plus. If I can move all the apps I download from here on out to the SD card I think I will be able to use my phone quite happily now! :good:
Or I'll be back tomorrow with more problems hahaha either is possible
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Lmfao... You should be OK now as long as you've set everything up the right way.. And you're welcome.
You should learn about Xposed and Xposed Modules because it will make things a lot easier and you can theme your phone to look just about any way possible. There's even a module for Xposed called Downloads2SD and works awesome!!
Edit... By the way, you can also use flashify to flash an updated version of TWRP if you want or you can just flash it via the PC like you did already... The updated ones make flashing much easier! Anyways have a great night.

Ugh still problems. Unfortunately android.process.media is the error I keep getting. It is only when I have the SD card mounted. Even after formatting and setting a new partition. It was fine, then once I installed Link2SD and mounted the script the error started again.
I checked in the folders under "Android" "data" there are the .com.etc... files and then one that says nomedia. I wonder if that's what is causing the problem. Not sure if those type of files are available somewhere that I can reload.
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I've formatted the card again and put it in fresh but once I try to download an app to it (straight from playstore, not using link2sd) the error came back. So I definitely broke something. Not sure what. I may try with a brand new SD card tomorrow and see if it will fix it but at this point I'm not optimistic since a complete format of the card from my computer didn't fix the problem. :[

Apriljoanne said:
Ugh still problems. Unfortunately android.process.media is the error I keep getting. It is only when I have the SD card mounted. Even after formatting and setting a new partition. It was fine, then once I installed Link2SD and mounted the script the error started again.
I checked in the folders under "Android" "data" there are the .com.etc... files and then one that says nomedia. I wonder if that's what is causing the problem. Not sure if those type of files are available somewhere that I can reload.
I've formatted the card again and put it in fresh but once I try to download an app to it (straight from playstore, not using link2sd) the error came back. So I definitely broke something. Not sure what. I may try with a brand new SD card tomorrow and see if it will fix it but at this point I'm not optimistic since a complete format of the card from my computer didn't fix the problem. :[
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Try to have the Xposed and Xposed Modules... First you need to install the wanam Xposed framework and then reboot and start using modules and there's tons of them... Go read how to install Wanam Xposed after you get that installed you tap download inside of the Xposed app and type downdloads2sd because this is much better than anything else because you don't have to format the SD card all you need to do is set where you want your downloads to go and reboot after setting it all up and then you're all done!!

Except now my SD card isn't working regardless so it won't help until I figure that out

Apriljoanne said:
Except now my SD card isn't working regardless so it won't help until I figure that out
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Just reformat the entire SD card but first delete the partitions you made and just make the whole card fat32 and try using the Xposed Module to download to the SD card.