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Ive Noticed Ever Since Purchasing My Tilt (about 3 Weeks Now) I Have Had To More And More, Have To Sleep On The Couch (my Wifes Doing). Is There A Rom Or Hack For This Problem.
......sorry I Could Not Resist.......
Maybe you should see if there's a CAB available that will remove her. I know there's a Yellow cab ready at all times
Also, see if you can find a registry hack that will disable the annoying capitalizing of every word in your posts. We Don'T Have To Capitalize Every Word Cause It's Annoying, and it wont qualify you for better parking if your CAPS lock is only partially disabled.
KD8DNS said:
Ive Noticed Ever Since Purchasing My Tilt (about 3 Weeks Now) I Have Had To More And More, Have To Sleep On The Couch (my Wifes Doing). Is There A Rom Or Hack For This Problem.
......sorry I Could Not Resist.......
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I have had the same problem! And it got pretty bad for a few days, until I figured out a solution.
This is a bit complicated so pay very close attention (or you may want to jot these instructions down to refer to later):
1. turn the phone to look at the right side of the unit
2. locate a tiny button with a little red symbol on it. (You may have used this jewel of a button to awake your awesome Kaiser (a.k.a. at&t Tilt) phone when it has fallen asleep (while you got distracted for a few moments).
3. PRESS this button for only 1-second and release. I have learned - through trial and error - that this button also turns OFF the phone. BUT DONT WORRY! It's not really off, its just sleeping and you will still receive calls, text messages and even calendar event reminders (whew I worried about receiving these!).
I know these instructions can be very stressful, but they may have saved my marriage. I would highly consider you trying this procedure at least once an evening (like during meals, when your spouse is trying to communicate with you, and especially (grin) at 1am while your laying in bed browsing the xda-developers forums for all the cool tools, cabs and Roms out there and your wife rolls over and says, "don't you ever put that thing down??!!"
;-)
Sorry about the caps i wa not paying attention.
KD8DNS said:
Sorry about the caps i wa not paying attention.
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I thought your post was funny. This place can use more light-hearted comedy.
ronfin44 said:
Maybe you should see if there's a CAB available that will remove her. I know there's a Yellow cab ready at all times
Also, see if you can find a registry hack that will disable the annoying capitalizing of every word in your posts. We Don'T Have To Capitalize Every Word Cause It's Annoying, and it wont qualify you for better parking if your CAPS lock is only partially disabled.
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You have to make sure you get the right kind of cab though... It can be confusing because here in the DC area yellow cabs aren't yellow, they are bright orange??? You must be very careful because you must be sure you really want to do that before you run the cab. It is usually very painful, difficult, and expensive to uninstall the wife update. Even then if you manage to partially uninstall the wife, if you have added new devices to your PAN while the wife update was installed then it may take up to 18 years to fully uninstall the wife. It wrecks havoc with your network settings, and often once uninstalled the wife update will often take half of your network resources and permissions with it (sometimes all of them!). Also be very careful of MIL.dll. It often installs itself in the background when the wife update is being installed. MIL.dll is often considered spyware, nagware, and often it falls within both categories, but there is often nothing much that can be done about MIL.dll without uninstalling the wife update. Some feel it is worth starting all over again with just a bare-bones system, but most feel that the benefits of the wife update outweigh the negatives. It is better to live with the occasional problems that the wife update may cause, than to try and remove it.
Try hard reseting her. Hold down both of her soft nipples and stick your stylus in her butt. That should get quick results. haha
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Try hard reseting her. Hold down both of her soft nipples and stick your stylus in her butt. That should get quick results. haha
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I knew I was doing something wrong, I kept putting her in bootloader mode but she said she'd never done that before!
Mike
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That should get quick results.
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I thought sticking your stylus in the wrong hole caused permanent damage to your pins?!
Steve-C said:
I thought sticking your stylus in the wrong hole caused permanent damage to your pins?!
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I'm using Dutty's special Bottylicious ROM. Works great with softcore resets like that! haha
LMAO! Maybe you could just install another cab Iv seen around, It's called abitontheside.cab, it can be simply installed without going through all the bother of unstalling the wife update. Just make sure you dont run both at the same time as Iv heard they can conflict with each other.
I bought my wife an iPhone, now she can't say anything because she spends just as much time surfing the web and playing with the other 4 things you can do with an iPhone
I've been meaning to ask this for months, but I keep forgetting. Today I scoured the site, but can't find anyone with the same problem. Either I'm going crazy or I hear a frequency that nobody else can (lol - "Unbreakable").
Basically, right after I hang up a call, my phone lets out a few audible "twangs." That's the only way I can describe it. WHAT IS IT? Some bizarre audio phenomenon like when cell phones get too close to computer speakers?
I know it's not just my phone - I went through 4 RMA Tilts thanks to RLoD issues, and they've all done it.
Either I'm going crazy (or becoming a superhero) or I'm an idiot and this is by design and I'm missing something obvious.
It just means the call was disconnected. It's useful if your call gets dropped, so you don't keep saying "Hello? Hello?" The phone will twang so you know the other person has hung up or otherwise got disconnected.
Yep I find it annoying too. One beep to let me know I've hung up the phone is fine, but the ding ding ding thing is annoying. Sounds like my phone is going to explode.
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It just means the call was disconnected. It's useful if your call gets dropped, so you don't keep saying "Hello? Hello?" The phone will twang so you know the other person has hung up or otherwise got disconnected.
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Thank you. So it turns out:
1) I'm a first-class goob.
2) It still annoys me.
3) It must not work all the time, because when I have calls dropped, sometimes I do find myself saying "hello" for a time. (Or maybe I've just blocked the sound out entirely.)
4) Now that you mention it, sometimes I DO appreciate it that it lets me know I've been disconnected, sometimes. But why does it do it when I just manually hang up? I certainly don't need to know the call's been dropped THEN.
5) MY BOTTOM LINE (eg - my excuse for being a goob): The sound doesn't sound like an on-purpose thing. It sounds random, like a mistake or a glitch. Hence my confusion.
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Yep I find it annoying too. One beep to let me know I've hung up the phone is fine, but the ding ding ding thing is annoying. Sounds like my phone is going to explode.
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Thank you for justifying my #5, and thank you for trying to make me feel better about being a goob.
Now let's just let this thread fade into the nether-regions of the forum...
Anyway or program that would disable the screen lighting up when receiving a sms or email??? i cant stand when its in my pocket and the damn touchscreen comes on and it starts hitting sh*t lol.
(and no i dont wanna lock and unlock the keys each time)
thanks
cweems said:
Anyway or program that would disable the screen lighting up when receiving a sms or email??? i cant stand when its in my pocket and the damn touchscreen comes on and it starts hitting sh*t lol.
(and no i dont wanna lock and unlock the keys each time)
thanks
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I dont know if it helps, but try to disable the notification for new sms.
ill try that... but i do still want sound
think im jus outta luck, ill jus have to deal w/ it.
it bothers the hell out of me too.
i wish there was a fix.
In order for there to be a "fix," it has to be broken first. This is how it was designed. When you get a message the phone wakes and receives the message. Therefore, the screen lights up. So there is no "fix," its functioning as designed. Though if anyone knows of "tweak" you may be able to change it. But I really don't think there is a way.
wow dude lol i couldnt care less about terminology... its a problem for me and its annoying so i want a fix for the problem
Blackberry knows wut theyre doing , jus makes the noise and screen stays off!! lol
o well ill live
cweems said:
wow dude lol i couldnt care less about terminology... its a problem for me and its annoying so i want a fix for the problem
Blackberry knows wut theyre doing , jus makes the noise and screen stays off!! lol
o well ill live
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There you go again asking for a "fix" to the screen lighting up. The point I'm trying to make is that this is like going to Ford and saying every time I turn the Wheel to the Left the car goes Left. Can you fix that?
Also, I would think that preventing the Screen from Coming on when the Device is "doing something" would prevent it from coming on when you wanted to.
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There you go again asking for a "fix" to the screen lighting up. The point I'm trying to make is that this is like going to Ford and saying every time I turn the Wheel to the Left the car goes Left. Can you fix that?
Also, I would think that preventing the Screen from Coming on when the Device is "doing something" would prevent it from coming on when you wanted to.
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lol not everywants their screen to light up when somthing comes in, everyone wants thier car to turn left when they turn the wheel left.
cant believe we r goin this far about a word, but im not quitting!!
Definitions of fix...
1. to repair; mend.
2. to put in order or in good condition; adjust or arrrange: She fixed her hair in a bun.
3. to make fast, firm, or stable.
4. to place definitely and more or less permanently: to fix a circus poster to a wall.
5. to settle definitely; determine: to fix a price.
6. to direct (the eyes, the attention, etc.) steadily: His eyes were fixed on the distant ship.
7. to attract and hold (the eye, the attention, etc.).
8. to make set or rigid.
9. to put into permanent form.
10. to put or place (responsibility, blame, etc.) on a person.
11. to assign or refer to a definite place, time, etc.
12. to provide or supply with (something needed or wanted): How are you fixed for money?
13. Informal. to arrange or influence the outcome or action of, esp. privately or dishonestly: to fix a jury; to fix a game.
14. to get (a meal); prepare (food): What time shall I fix supper?
15. Informal. to put in a condition or position to make no further trouble.
16. Informal. to get even with; get revenge upon: I'll fix him!
so from these examples it obviously means something doesnt have to be broken to be fixed. could mean many things, and im using number 2, adjust or arrange. like it says, doesnt mean the girls hair was broken, she jus didnt like it so she fixed it to make it better.
FIX my screen from lighting up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
haha
I think it is a problem. My back light goes on from an email and stays on till the battery dies or I notice it. I have to be careful and check it frequently or I get a dead phone by lunch. I need the backlight to do what I setup in the power settings - I think it should be turning itself off. It ain't.
u changed it under power settings and under backlight settings?? def shouldnt stay on toooo long!
ki think we are outta luck here. I have the same problem.
I just have to lock the device from having anything accidently turn on
look mr. mcgee, you are very right ("its functioning as designed"), but it's a poor design to say the least. (Fire the turd that came up with that design)
If someone sends me a message i'm forced to stop everything i'm doing so that my phone doesn't get into mischief and go calling other people without my knowing.
I usually have my phone in my holster with S2U2 running. If only there was a way S2U2 would not wake up for anything other than a phone call, but would still vibrate or ring you when you receive an sms or the like.
If someone could come up with a fix..(or excuse me)... a tweak..... I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT!
+1!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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look mr. mcgee, you are very right ("its functioning as designed"), but it's a poor design to say the least. (Fire the turd that came up with that design)
If someone sends me a message i'm forced to stop everything i'm doing so that my phone doesn't get into mischief and go calling other people without my knowing.
I usually have my phone in my holster with S2U2 running. If only there was a way S2U2 would not wake up for anything other than a phone call, but would still vibrate or ring you when you receive an sms or the like.
If someone could come up with a fix..(or excuse me)... a tweak..... I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT!
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Its a poor design maybe for u and some other few people. The majority think its a good design. I cant seem to understand your problem. When someone sends me an sms and my phone is in my case(holster) and I dont want to read it, I just leave it and the backlight turns of itself. Where is the problem?
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Its a poor design maybe for u and some other few people. The majority think its a good design. I cant seem to understand your problem. When someone sends me an sms and my phone is in my case(holster) and I dont want to read it, I just leave it and the backlight turns of itself. Where is the problem?
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Pretty much exactly my point. It seems every month or so some person comes in and attacks the phone for doing what its supposed to. This is the second Light comes on when I get a SMS thread I've seen. Next people will complain because the phone is ringing when they get a phone call.
As for the person who's light stays on indefinitely after receiving a email you may actually have a problem. The phone sometimes will "stay awake" if there is some program running in the background that is misbehaving.
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Pretty much exactly my point. It seems every month or so some person comes in and attacks the phone for doing what its supposed to. This is the second Light comes on when I get a SMS thread I've seen. Next people will complain because the phone is ringing when they get a phone call.
As for the person who's light stays on indefinitely after receiving a email you may actually have a problem. The phone sometimes will "stay awake" if there is some program running in the background that is misbehaving.
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Thank heavens I am not the only one. I thought someone from xda made a secret competition and the winner will be the one that have the most complains on his phone. If u dont like your phone, buy another one that suites u better then this one. Sorry for being so b*tchy.
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Pretty much exactly my point. It seems every month or so some person comes in and attacks the phone for doing what its supposed to. This is the second Light comes on when I get a SMS thread I've seen. Next people will complain because the phone is ringing when they get a phone call. ...
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Phones and everything in life can always be more. In this case our phones could, and in my opinion should, be more customizeable. The reason they aren't is because if the phone user feels overwhelmed by the complexity of their device, they may not like it and will be less likely to buy another in the future, so from a marketing standpoint there is reason to dumb things down to a degree.
I, however, want as much customizeability as possible.
My girlfriend's Samsung i760 behaves different from my kaiser. On her phone SMS messages will NOT bring the phone out of standby (and turn the display on.) It does give the requested sound and/or vibration alert and flash the LED and display the message notification on screen (when you turn it on) for the set time periods, though. The i760 runs WM6 like our kaisers. My kaiser, as well as every other HTC device I've ever owned does take the phone out of standby and turn the display on for SMS, though. So this tells me there definitely is some software method of tweaking it so that it does what you want. I don't know what it is, but it would sure be nice of someone knew of a registry setting for it.
BTW, our kaisers take the phone out of standby for SMS and MMS (and phone calls, of course), but don't do so for emails. Every day email and SMS become closer to eachother to me in significance and importance, so why shouldn't they cause the phone to behave in the same way?
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Phones and everything in life can always be more. In this case our phones could, and in my opinion should, be more customizeable. The reason they aren't is because if the phone user feels overwhelmed by the complexity of their device, they may not like it and will be less likely to buy another in the future, so from a marketing standpoint there is reason to dumb things down to a degree.
I, however, want as much customizeability as possible.
My girlfriend's Samsung i760 behaves different from my kaiser. On her phone SMS messages will NOT bring the phone out of standby (and turn the display on.) It does give the requested sound and/or vibration alert and flash the LED and display the message notification on screen (when you turn it on) for the set time periods, though. The i760 runs WM6 like our kaisers. My kaiser, as well as every other HTC device I've ever owned does take the phone out of standby and turn the display on for SMS, though. So this tells me there definitely is some software method of tweaking it so that it does what you want. I don't know what it is, but it would sure be nice of someone knew of a registry setting for it.
BTW, our kaisers take the phone out of standby for SMS and MMS (and phone calls, of course), but don't do so for emails. Every day email and SMS become closer to eachother to me in significance and importance, so why shouldn't they cause the phone to behave in the same way?
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Interesting. I'm sure there is something that could be done. I'd be willing to look into it. But I'd need a Samsung i760 to see if I could pull any info or software from it. So if anyone has a Samsung i760 they'd like to give me for development purposes of course, I'd see if we could figure out how to make this happen.
BTW, My phone does turn on the screen when I get an email.
maxh said:
Phones and everything in life can always be more. In this case our phones could, and in my opinion should, be more customizeable. The reason they aren't is because if the phone user feels overwhelmed by the complexity of their device, they may not like it and will be less likely to buy another in the future, so from a marketing standpoint there is reason to dumb things down to a degree.
I, however, want as much customizeability as possible.
My girlfriend's Samsung i760 behaves different from my kaiser. On her phone SMS messages will NOT bring the phone out of standby (and turn the display on.) It does give the requested sound and/or vibration alert and flash the LED and display the message notification on screen (when you turn it on) for the set time periods, though. The i760 runs WM6 like our kaisers. My kaiser, as well as every other HTC device I've ever owned does take the phone out of standby and turn the display on for SMS, though. So this tells me there definitely is some software method of tweaking it so that it does what you want. I don't know what it is, but it would sure be nice of someone knew of a registry setting for it.
BTW, our kaisers take the phone out of standby for SMS and MMS (and phone calls, of course), but don't do so for emails. Every day email and SMS become closer to eachother to me in significance and importance, so why shouldn't they cause the phone to behave in the same way?
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ok, good point. Have u tried some sms applications? Maybe they have the option to not to turn the screen on. (just a suggestion).
If this ever happens to you, you have a bad phone and should return it. I really hate it when MY phone wakes up and decides to randomly call someone in Hong Kong.
Seriously - I have to understand this - you really honestly think that your phone can wake up and call someone, or email someone, or SMS someone without you doing something?
Bill
jsd2 said:
If someone sends me a message i'm forced to stop everything i'm doing so that my phone doesn't get into mischief and go calling other people without my knowing.
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Loving the Diamond... but big issues have come up and they are starting to make it difficult to really use the device. I am trying to determine if the issues I am having are brought on by myself or if the issues are related to some challenge with the phone or my carrier.
"What's the issue," you ask?
The Diamond will not pick up a call. The phone will ring, the caller display will come up, I'll try and pick it up by either pushing the onscreen command or pick it up via the pick-up button... nothing. The call rings through to voicemail. Meanwhile I have to call the person back who just called me. Massively irritating and even more irritating it's does actually pick up SOMETIMES. The problem is I cannot determine why it works sometimes and why it does not. 90% of the time it does not work. When I do get it to work all I need to do is activate my bluetooth headset and then turn it back off and we are back in the same situation where the phone will not answer, however, this time... the phone does not RING either! Yes that's right - all sounds go bye bye on the phone when I activate BT and then turn it off. Also, I cannot pick up the phone with bluetooth headset. I can hear the phone ring through and everything looks dandy but no go! Push the pick-up button - nothing. This isn't such a big deal really - I mean - who cares if it picks up on the BT headset - I just want to be able to answer a call in general!
Now - I do have a lot of applications on the machine from a modifcation perspective and I am thinking this could all very well be my fault. I have Advance Config, Diamond TF3D config, and Diamond Tweak all loaded (each have their own benefit.)
Strange thing is... I just did a test and the phone picks up JUST FINE. I'm about ready to pull my hair out. It's really hard to put my finger on it. Tried it a second time, if I try to answer with the soft key it won't work but the hard key will work. Now the hard key will not actually hang up the call - I have to use the softkey to hang it up. I don't know if anyone is having the same issues but I am to the point of hard-reset to start from scratch.
I actually had the "can't pick up" problem just yesterday, but with my Prophet. Using Pdaviet's MyVista 6.1 Rom and S2U2. The phone rang, S2U2 displaying the full screen call notification, no chance of picking up the call.
Do you also use S2U2?
When you find your self in a hole, it usually helps if you stop digging.
Unpalatable as it might seem, I think with hassles like you've got, a HR is probably your best option.
ps, just a thought, have you at any stage in your tweaking done any button or key re-mapping... either inadvertently or by design? Maybe worth a check before giving up
wow, that's a whole load of issues
I've had my Diamond for about a week now..... and have had none of those issues..... Bluetooth works fine, picking up is a breeze....
what provider are you with?
I remember reading more complaints about sound going bye after Bluetooth use in the early days of the Diamond. Try searching around a bit and see if you can find something. However, seeing your other issues, a hard-reset might not be out of place.
Also, for aesthetics, do note that it is usually considered bad practice to place two identical symbols after each other when masking cursewords with random characters.
Also, for aesthetics, do note that it is usually considered bad practice to place two identical symbols after each other when masking cursewords with random characters.
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By far probably the best advise yet!
The emotional side... aka incredible hulk... came out and punched shift/keyboard number row (pounded rather.) I was thinking in my head, "smash Diamond" and the KB had to take the abuse.
Carrier information for those who asked.
CDMA Diamond on the lovely Telus system (aka - Tel-us, we take your money)
As with all troubleshooting, you need to start from beginning. When you first got the phone, it could answer call. Right? So you need to trace back to what have you done to the phone step by step and to find out when it starts to fail.
Doh... Well I reset the device... seems to work now but something that seemed to be working before was my Zune subscription music from Zune Pass was synching to my mobile device via a Synch Center setup. I was amazed it was actually working... now it's not working So - I get calling back and lose the little trick that was working - Zune Pass DRM music synching with my Diamond... you win some and you lose some I guess doh.
jessiethe3rd said:
Loving the Diamond... but big issues have come up and they are starting to ma...my carrier.
"What's the issue," you ask?........... The call rings through to voicemail. Meanwhile I have to call the person back ............who just called me. Massively irritating and ev............... to hang it up. I don't know if anyone is having the same issues but I am to......... the point of hard-reset to start from scrat.........ch.
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You should do some research and some reading.
And relax a little before you Fire up and disrupt a Community in peace.
I have the same thing going on now... same programs installed as you.
Is it still working after a hard reset? Did you re-install all the same programs?
Well, I'm on a Telus Diamond, and had the no answer problem, and solved it with a hard reset.. just try it, it doesn't take too much to get everything back to the way you had everything..
One important security-related difference I have noticed after installing this ROM over the stock ROM I had:
On my stock ROM, holding down the power/sleep button on the lock screen used to do NOTHING. I had to unlock my phone (with the pattern lock) before I could power off the phone.
On this ROM, I can power off the phone even when it is locked.
If a thief steals my phone, I want to be able to track them as long as possible. As the HTC One does not have an easily removable battery, they would not be able to power off the phone or its data connection with my lockscreen password. On this ROM, that security feature is gone.
I'm hoping this is just an obscure setting somewhere, but I already tried checking in Settings -> Security and Settings -> Power. Can anyone give me some insight into this?
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If a thief steals my phone, I want to be able to track them as long as possible. As the HTC One does not have an easily removable battery, they would not be able to power off the phone or its data connection with my lockscreen password. On this ROM, that security feature is gone.
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There is a Xposed module that can be used instead of the one in this ROM that has exactly what you are concerned.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2594642
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ZippyDan said:
One important security-related difference I have noticed after installing this ROM over the stock ROM I had:
On my stock ROM, holding down the power/sleep button on the lock screen used to do NOTHING. I had to unlock my phone (with the pattern lock) before I could power off the phone.
On this ROM, I can power off the phone even when it is locked.
If a thief steals my phone, I want to be able to track them as long as possible. As the HTC One does not have an easily removable battery, they would not be able to power off the phone or its data connection with my lockscreen password. On this ROM, that security feature is gone.
I'm hoping this is just an obscure setting somewhere, but I already tried checking in Settings -> Security and Settings -> Power. Can anyone give me some insight into this?
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if your phone is stolen, this is your friend. google.com/android/devicemanager just log in with your e-mail and you're good to go
ZippyDan said:
One important security-related difference I have noticed after installing this ROM over the stock ROM I had:
On my stock ROM, holding down the power/sleep button on the lock screen used to do NOTHING. I had to unlock my phone (with the pattern lock) before I could power off the phone.
On this ROM, I can power off the phone even when it is locked.
If a thief steals my phone, I want to be able to track them as long as possible. As the HTC One does not have an easily removable battery, they would not be able to power off the phone or its data connection with my lockscreen password. On this ROM, that security feature is gone.
I'm hoping this is just an obscure setting somewhere, but I already tried checking in Settings -> Security and Settings -> Power. Can anyone give me some insight into this?
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I have found avast make such an app that your after I can't get URL at the moment but search through the play store for avast rooted and stolen, I will see if I can get you a link
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.avast.android.antitheft_setup
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if your phone is stolen, this is your friend. google.com/android/devicemanager just log in with your e-mail and you're good to go
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Didn't know about this, thanks. But it is useless if the phone is OFF (I just tested).
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I have found avast make such an app that your after I can't get URL at the moment but search through the play store for avast rooted and stolen, I will see if I can get you a link
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.avast.android.antitheft_setup
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I already have a paid subscription to Avast Anti-Theft and it is installed on my rooted HTC. I appreciate the suggestion but you are entirely missing my point. It is BECAUSE I have installed tracking software on my phone that I am so concerned about someone being able to turn off the phone at the lockscreen. Avast is slightly more useful than the google device manager because it can keep a historical record of where your phone has been, but it is still not very useful in finding a stolen phone if the phone is OFF and not transmitting current data about where the phone is!!
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There is a Xposed module that can be used instead of the one in this ROM that has exactly what you are concerned.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2594642
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This looks good, but I am left uncertain about whether it would work on this phone. Browsing the thread reveals this information:
Confirmed Working Devices/Firmwares
HTC devices: HTC One X 4.2.2 stock Rom with Sense 5
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Promising, except we are on 4.4 now. And the thread also indicates there were problems getting it working with Sony devices after 4.3 which had to be fixed in a separate mod. I also see this note:
A user has reported that sound options disappear when using this mod on HTC One. I currently have no idea why this happens, and I'm too busy to figure it out at this moment. Sorry.
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ZippyDan said:
I already have a paid subscription to Avast Anti-Theft and it is installed on my rooted HTC. I appreciate the suggestion but you are entirely missing my point. It is BECAUSE I have installed tracking software on my phone that I am so concerned about someone being able to turn off the phone at the lockscreen. Avast is slightly more useful than the google device manager because it can keep a historical record of where your phone has been, but it is still not very useful in finding a stolen phone if the phone is OFF and not transmitting current data about where the phone is!!
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yeah, but IF you have lost or had your phone stolen i was pretty sure if they take out your sim and put in a new one the phone will go into stolen mode and features will be disabled
Madaz2 said:
yeah, but IF you have lost or had your phone stolen i was pretty sure if they take out your sim and put in a new one the phone will go into stolen mode and features will be disabled
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I'm not worried about that. In my opinion, the first few hours after a theft are the most crucial (in fact, the first hour while he is escaping to his den). What I'm worried about is the thief IMMEDIATELY turning off the phone after it gets stolen, and then having the phone wiped at his leisure.
ZippyDan said:
I'm not worried about that. In my opinion, the first few hours after a theft are the most crucial (in fact, the first hour while he is escaping to his den). What I'm worried about is the thief IMMEDIATELY turning off the phone after it gets stolen, and then having the phone wiped at his leisure.
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What if the thief just turns airplane mode on? Does avast override it?
ZippyDan said:
One important security-related difference I have noticed after installing this ROM over the stock ROM I had:
On my stock ROM, holding down the power/sleep button on the lock screen used to do NOTHING. I had to unlock my phone (with the pattern lock) before I could power off the phone.
On this ROM, I can power off the phone even when it is locked.
If a thief steals my phone, I want to be able to track them as long as possible. As the HTC One does not have an easily removable battery, they would not be able to power off the phone or its data connection with my lockscreen password. On this ROM, that security feature is gone.
I'm hoping this is just an obscure setting somewhere, but I already tried checking in Settings -> Security and Settings -> Power. Can anyone give me some insight into this?
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Holding down the power button for 10 seconds will always simulate a battery pull on the one whatever lock screen you have.
clarkson63 said:
Holding down the power button for 10 seconds will always simulate a battery pull on the one whatever lock screen you have.
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then pray that the thief doesn't know about this :silly:
But yea, I think it's important to have long-press power button disabled when the phone is locked.
ZippyDan said:
Promising, except we are on 4.4 now. And the thread also indicates there were problems getting it working with Sony devices after 4.3 which had to be fixed in a separate mod. I also see this note:
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Ah k. Yeah, I'm still using 4.3 so I don't know about if it works on KitKat.
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ZippyDan said:
Didn't know about this, thanks. But it is useless if the phone is OFF (I just tested).
I already have a paid subscription to Avast Anti-Theft and it is installed on my rooted HTC. I appreciate the suggestion but you are entirely missing my point. It is BECAUSE I have installed tracking software on my phone that I am so concerned about someone being able to turn off the phone at the lockscreen. Avast is slightly more useful than the google device manager because it can keep a historical record of where your phone has been, but it is still not very useful in finding a stolen phone if the phone is OFF and not transmitting current data about where the phone is!!
This looks good, but I am left uncertain about whether it would work on this phone. Browsing the thread reveals this information:
Promising, except we are on 4.4 now. And the thread also indicates there were problems getting it working with Sony devices after 4.3 which had to be fixed in a separate mod. I also see this note:
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I am not aware of anything that can be helpful if your phone is off... Every app or software will require a satellite or cell tower ak or echo request in order to find your phone. if you can find anything that magically can turn your powered off device on and you're able to track, lock or delete it, I think the entire community will love you
dronepro said:
I am not aware of anything that can be helpful if your phone is off... Every app or software will require a satellite or cell tower ak or echo request in order to find your phone. if you can find anything that magically can turn your powered off device on and you're able to track, lock or delete it, I think the entire community will love you
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I don't know how you guys keep misinterpreting me I know nothing is useful when the phone is turned off. This is exactly why I am so eager to make sure it is impossible or at least more difficult for a thief to turn off my phone from the lockscreen, so that it STAYS ON so that I can track it.
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I don't know how you guys keep misinterpreting me I know nothing is useful when the phone is turned off. This is exactly why I am so eager to make sure it is impossible or at least more difficult for a thief to turn off my phone from the lockscreen, so that it STAYS ON so that I can track it.
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Ah I see, it's my understanding that holding the power button for about 15-30 seconds will power off your device no matter what. As sad as that is, I think it should be that way because if for any reason your phone locks up while asleep and you cannot wake it up, you should be able to turn it off. otherwise, if it gets stolen and the thief cannot turn it off, simply removing the SIM card will render any security feature useless until the phone battery is fully discharged and he can charge, enter recovery and wipe it...
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What if the thief just turns airplane mode on? Does avast override it?
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Avast does have an option (only when rooted I believe) to automatically activate WiFi and Cellular data even if turned off.
Of course, if you have a lockscreen this does not even matter as they would not be able to turn it off.
There is another option to have the device automatically search for open WiFi's and join automatically. I'm not sure if this is part of Avast or AndroidLost as I have both installed.
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Holding down the power button for 10 seconds will always simulate a battery pull on the one whatever lock screen you have.
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If this 10-second press is a hardware-limitation (as in there is no way for a ROM to override this), then so be it. But I would like that to be confirmed.
But what I am mainly asking for, at the very least, is that the 3 or 4 second power button hold be disabled when on the lockscreen. I know for sure that this has changed from whichever stock version I was running to this latest Revolution ROM I am running now.
10-seconds is a long time to hold the power button, and as a thief may not know about this feature (and it might be different for every brand or model), they might give up before they hit the 10-second mark. For example, I think the Sleep + Home button hard reset for the iPhone is much more widely known, but it also requires only like 5 or 6 seconds of holding.
ZippyDan said:
If this 10-second press is a hardware-limitation (as in there is no way for a ROM to override this), then so be it. But I would like that to be confirmed.
But what I am mainly asking for, at the very least, is that the 3 or 4 second power button hold be disabled when on the lockscreen. I know for sure that this has changed from whichever stock version I was running to this latest Revolution ROM I am running now.
10-seconds is a long time to hold the power button, and as a thief may not know about this feature (and it might be different for every brand or model), they might give up before they hit the 10-second mark. For example, I think the Sleep + Home button hard reset for the iPhone is much more widely known, but it also requires only like 5 or 6 seconds of holding.
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The 10-second press is a hardware thing. All HTC One's have it, regardless of what model. This is because of the non-removable battery, so that you can simulate a battery pull should need be, as mentioned already. I'm sorry, there is no way around this. And trust me, you would rather have that feature should your phone become unresponsive. THAT is more likely to happen than a thief stealing a phone. The only times I've ever heard of someone stealing a phone is when someone is careless with where they leave their device. Just be cautious and don't leave it in stupid places. Simple.
HTC_Phone said:
The 10-second press is a hardware thing. All HTC One's have it, regardless of what model. This is because of the non-removable battery, so that you can simulate a battery pull should need be, as mentioned already. I'm sorry, there is no way around this. And trust me, you would rather have that feature should your phone become unresponsive. THAT is more likely to happen than a thief stealing a phone. The only times I've ever heard of someone stealing a phone is when someone is careless with where they leave their device. Just be cautious and don't leave it in stupid places. Simple.
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Well put.
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The 10-second press is a hardware thing. All HTC One's have it, regardless of what model. This is because of the non-removable battery, so that you can simulate a battery pull should need be, as mentioned already. I'm sorry, there is no way around this. And trust me, you would rather have that feature should your phone become unresponsive. THAT is more likely to happen than a thief stealing a phone. The only times I've ever heard of someone stealing a phone is when someone is careless with where they leave their device. Just be cautious and don't leave it in stupid places. Simple.
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Well put.
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Terribly put. I accept the 10-second press. Let me return to my original concern which is the much shorter 3 - 5 second which now allows the phone to be turned off from the lockscreen with an on-screen menu. I would like that gone.
The second part of the post is uninformed at best or arrogant at worst. The OP is probably speaking from the point of view of a first-world resident.
I live in a third-world country. I have had a iPhone 5 that was stolen from me by two men wearing helmets who drove an untagged motorcycle onto a sidewalk just to snatch the phone out of my hand. On a public bus, I was sandwiched by 3 men just so that one could pickpocket my HTC Desire (a 3-year old backup phone) from behind. When I confronted them, I was punched and left bloody so I let them go (valuing my life over a phone).
I have another friend who has lost two iPhone 5's. Once, she was pickpocketed in a crowded mall. Another time, she was walking on the street near a public metro station with her phone clutched to her chest. A man grabbed her arm as she was passing and threw her to the ground. Afterwards he ran across a busy divided highway into a slum area.
I just met a foreigner here who was riding in the back seat of a taxi while using his Galaxy S4. The taxi suddenly stopped and two men armed with guns and knives jumped into the taxi from both sides. The taxi then continued moving. His quick reactions allowed him to escape by jumping out a window while the taxi was moving. He showed me his scrapes and bruises. Unfortunately, he had to leave the phone behind, but he may have avoided being kidnapped.
I have another friend who has a brother whose entire bus was robbed of their phones at gunpoint.
I could go on. All of these instances have occurred in both poor and very nice areas, and the nature of this country is that utter poverty and extravagant wealth are often located side by side. It might sound like a hellhole, but most days are perfectly normal, and some are wonderful, even in a third-world country. You learn to live with the badness, but it still makes sense to take proactive measures just in case.
There are other measures I can take as well: I usually use a much cheaper "decoy" phone in public. I try to ride the metro more than taxis and taxis more than buses. I try to always keep my valuables in a bag in front of me instead of in my pockets. When riding a taxi, I try to always make a note of the taxi number and lock all the doors from the inside. But you can't seriously blow me off and tell me to be 100% vigilant all the time. Sometimes I forget one of these precautions because I am in a rush or my mind is preoccupied with other things. And the nature of the modern world dictates that I use my phone constantly throughout the day, for both professional and social reasons, just as I am sure you do.
The fact is the probability that my phone will get stolen here is much higher than in other places, even if I am not careless with where I leave the phone, because people are seeking to actively rob others, and it is extremely unrealistic to expect that I keep my guard up 100% of the time.
Additionally, my work involves frequent travel, and requires me to do lots of work and communication on the internet. Therefore, a fast, powerful smartphone is a necessity for me to put bread in my mouth.
Now, you may understand why my perspective is that the security features on my costly and essential phone are so important. Your perspective is probably from some rich, relatively safe country in Europe, the USA, or Asia. I hope I have educated you on the fact that the world does not revolve around your socioeconomic situation.
I will be honest and say that your post irritated me, but I have tried to keep my post civil and explain why your response is pretentious and insulated idealism. If you still want to lecture me from your world about how I can magically solve the problems of my very different and more dangerous world by simply being "cautious", I will have just two very small words to gift you.
Good God, can we please stay on topic of this fantastic Rom and what's coming soon?!
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