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Backlight Defaults to MINIMAL After a Call! And Other Problems.

Good Afternoon
I had a new TyTN II Delivered from orange after mine was nabbed at the weekend, and i locked it remotely. When i make a call now all is hunky dory, but whilst in that call if i go to press START for example nothing will happen, so again i try another way and press X to go to the today screen to then press start, Nothing happens.
I inform my caller ill call them back, and end the call by either pressing "End Call" or pressing the Red Button, and then instantly the Back light defaults to a very low setting, and it did NOT do this on my previous TyTN II.
I have spent a fair while looking through here and google (and also MoDaCo Forums) trying to find a solution. I only know of one other person on MoDaCo who has the problem, and i have tried hard reset on the device too to no avail.
It is a Orange HTC TyTN II, so i have called them also for advice and they know about as much about it as i do.
This is a plea for someone here maybe to lend me a hand and sort this out, otherwise its going to collide with the nearest large surface in the next few days ha ha.
Thanks again for reading, and I hope someone can help me!
Sean Saunders

screen off
I select don't blank/turn screen off in a call, as I often want to enter dtmfs for mailboxes, or conf calls, downside uses a bit more battery

Hi mgr2003.
I have these options set, and it doesnt make a blind bit of difference unfortunately. I was hoping for some kind of CAB file for a fix? I dont know whats wrong with this device but its not as good as my previous TyTN II.
Sean

This question keeps being asked about once every week since the TyTNII came out. Sorry, but it is getting a bit annoying....
Once again: it´s caused by a bug in the HTC ROM and happens when a device password is set and the backlight times out during a call. Solution: disable the device password or - if you want to keep the password - push the power button twice after a call and you are back in business.....

That would be an all well and good answer but i do not have a password set on my device, so the answer doesnt justify?
Cheers for the Advice though.
Sean

I also have that problem with my tilt....when i am on a call the screen turns off..How can i disable this?

In that case I apologize for my somewhat rude reply. Your problem description just seemed to fit that bug exactly....
Sorry, have no idea what else may be causing that behaviour. Good luck, and if you manage to fix your issue be sure to let us know!

Did you use Kaiser Tweak to disable fast sleep?

Hi
I havent done anything to the device, it is exactly as shipped by OrangeUK. Its only 3 days old now, so not even had a second to do anything but use it.
Sean

I have an Orange TYTN II and this bugged me too.
Download Kaiser Tweak http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333898
Follow instructions on thread and disable Fast Sleep (advised)
Normal Backlight and Power Settings will still be active

Display light up questionnnnnn

Anyway or program that would disable the screen lighting up when receiving a sms or email??? i cant stand when its in my pocket and the damn touchscreen comes on and it starts hitting sh*t lol.
(and no i dont wanna lock and unlock the keys each time)
thanks

cweems said:
Anyway or program that would disable the screen lighting up when receiving a sms or email??? i cant stand when its in my pocket and the damn touchscreen comes on and it starts hitting sh*t lol.
(and no i dont wanna lock and unlock the keys each time)
thanks
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I dont know if it helps, but try to disable the notification for new sms.

ill try that... but i do still want sound
think im jus outta luck, ill jus have to deal w/ it.

it bothers the hell out of me too.
i wish there was a fix.

In order for there to be a "fix," it has to be broken first. This is how it was designed. When you get a message the phone wakes and receives the message. Therefore, the screen lights up. So there is no "fix," its functioning as designed. Though if anyone knows of "tweak" you may be able to change it. But I really don't think there is a way.

wow dude lol i couldnt care less about terminology... its a problem for me and its annoying so i want a fix for the problem
Blackberry knows wut theyre doing , jus makes the noise and screen stays off!! lol
o well ill live

cweems said:
wow dude lol i couldnt care less about terminology... its a problem for me and its annoying so i want a fix for the problem
Blackberry knows wut theyre doing , jus makes the noise and screen stays off!! lol
o well ill live
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There you go again asking for a "fix" to the screen lighting up. The point I'm trying to make is that this is like going to Ford and saying every time I turn the Wheel to the Left the car goes Left. Can you fix that?
Also, I would think that preventing the Screen from Coming on when the Device is "doing something" would prevent it from coming on when you wanted to.

JimmyMcGee said:
There you go again asking for a "fix" to the screen lighting up. The point I'm trying to make is that this is like going to Ford and saying every time I turn the Wheel to the Left the car goes Left. Can you fix that?
Also, I would think that preventing the Screen from Coming on when the Device is "doing something" would prevent it from coming on when you wanted to.
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lol not everywants their screen to light up when somthing comes in, everyone wants thier car to turn left when they turn the wheel left.
cant believe we r goin this far about a word, but im not quitting!!
Definitions of fix...
1. to repair; mend.
2. to put in order or in good condition; adjust or arrrange: She fixed her hair in a bun.
3. to make fast, firm, or stable.
4. to place definitely and more or less permanently: to fix a circus poster to a wall.
5. to settle definitely; determine: to fix a price.
6. to direct (the eyes, the attention, etc.) steadily: His eyes were fixed on the distant ship.
7. to attract and hold (the eye, the attention, etc.).
8. to make set or rigid.
9. to put into permanent form.
10. to put or place (responsibility, blame, etc.) on a person.
11. to assign or refer to a definite place, time, etc.
12. to provide or supply with (something needed or wanted): How are you fixed for money?
13. Informal. to arrange or influence the outcome or action of, esp. privately or dishonestly: to fix a jury; to fix a game.
14. to get (a meal); prepare (food): What time shall I fix supper?
15. Informal. to put in a condition or position to make no further trouble.
16. Informal. to get even with; get revenge upon: I'll fix him!
so from these examples it obviously means something doesnt have to be broken to be fixed. could mean many things, and im using number 2, adjust or arrange. like it says, doesnt mean the girls hair was broken, she jus didnt like it so she fixed it to make it better.
FIX my screen from lighting up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
haha

I think it is a problem. My back light goes on from an email and stays on till the battery dies or I notice it. I have to be careful and check it frequently or I get a dead phone by lunch. I need the backlight to do what I setup in the power settings - I think it should be turning itself off. It ain't.

u changed it under power settings and under backlight settings?? def shouldnt stay on toooo long!

ki think we are outta luck here. I have the same problem.
I just have to lock the device from having anything accidently turn on

look mr. mcgee, you are very right ("its functioning as designed"), but it's a poor design to say the least. (Fire the turd that came up with that design)
If someone sends me a message i'm forced to stop everything i'm doing so that my phone doesn't get into mischief and go calling other people without my knowing.
I usually have my phone in my holster with S2U2 running. If only there was a way S2U2 would not wake up for anything other than a phone call, but would still vibrate or ring you when you receive an sms or the like.
If someone could come up with a fix..(or excuse me)... a tweak..... I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT!

+1!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jsd2 said:
look mr. mcgee, you are very right ("its functioning as designed"), but it's a poor design to say the least. (Fire the turd that came up with that design)
If someone sends me a message i'm forced to stop everything i'm doing so that my phone doesn't get into mischief and go calling other people without my knowing.
I usually have my phone in my holster with S2U2 running. If only there was a way S2U2 would not wake up for anything other than a phone call, but would still vibrate or ring you when you receive an sms or the like.
If someone could come up with a fix..(or excuse me)... a tweak..... I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT!
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Its a poor design maybe for u and some other few people. The majority think its a good design. I cant seem to understand your problem. When someone sends me an sms and my phone is in my case(holster) and I dont want to read it, I just leave it and the backlight turns of itself. Where is the problem?

Mikulec said:
Its a poor design maybe for u and some other few people. The majority think its a good design. I cant seem to understand your problem. When someone sends me an sms and my phone is in my case(holster) and I dont want to read it, I just leave it and the backlight turns of itself. Where is the problem?
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Pretty much exactly my point. It seems every month or so some person comes in and attacks the phone for doing what its supposed to. This is the second Light comes on when I get a SMS thread I've seen. Next people will complain because the phone is ringing when they get a phone call.
As for the person who's light stays on indefinitely after receiving a email you may actually have a problem. The phone sometimes will "stay awake" if there is some program running in the background that is misbehaving.

JimmyMcGee said:
Pretty much exactly my point. It seems every month or so some person comes in and attacks the phone for doing what its supposed to. This is the second Light comes on when I get a SMS thread I've seen. Next people will complain because the phone is ringing when they get a phone call.
As for the person who's light stays on indefinitely after receiving a email you may actually have a problem. The phone sometimes will "stay awake" if there is some program running in the background that is misbehaving.
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Thank heavens I am not the only one. I thought someone from xda made a secret competition and the winner will be the one that have the most complains on his phone. If u dont like your phone, buy another one that suites u better then this one. Sorry for being so b*tchy.

JimmyMcGee said:
Pretty much exactly my point. It seems every month or so some person comes in and attacks the phone for doing what its supposed to. This is the second Light comes on when I get a SMS thread I've seen. Next people will complain because the phone is ringing when they get a phone call. ...
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Phones and everything in life can always be more. In this case our phones could, and in my opinion should, be more customizeable. The reason they aren't is because if the phone user feels overwhelmed by the complexity of their device, they may not like it and will be less likely to buy another in the future, so from a marketing standpoint there is reason to dumb things down to a degree.
I, however, want as much customizeability as possible.
My girlfriend's Samsung i760 behaves different from my kaiser. On her phone SMS messages will NOT bring the phone out of standby (and turn the display on.) It does give the requested sound and/or vibration alert and flash the LED and display the message notification on screen (when you turn it on) for the set time periods, though. The i760 runs WM6 like our kaisers. My kaiser, as well as every other HTC device I've ever owned does take the phone out of standby and turn the display on for SMS, though. So this tells me there definitely is some software method of tweaking it so that it does what you want. I don't know what it is, but it would sure be nice of someone knew of a registry setting for it.
BTW, our kaisers take the phone out of standby for SMS and MMS (and phone calls, of course), but don't do so for emails. Every day email and SMS become closer to eachother to me in significance and importance, so why shouldn't they cause the phone to behave in the same way?

maxh said:
Phones and everything in life can always be more. In this case our phones could, and in my opinion should, be more customizeable. The reason they aren't is because if the phone user feels overwhelmed by the complexity of their device, they may not like it and will be less likely to buy another in the future, so from a marketing standpoint there is reason to dumb things down to a degree.
I, however, want as much customizeability as possible.
My girlfriend's Samsung i760 behaves different from my kaiser. On her phone SMS messages will NOT bring the phone out of standby (and turn the display on.) It does give the requested sound and/or vibration alert and flash the LED and display the message notification on screen (when you turn it on) for the set time periods, though. The i760 runs WM6 like our kaisers. My kaiser, as well as every other HTC device I've ever owned does take the phone out of standby and turn the display on for SMS, though. So this tells me there definitely is some software method of tweaking it so that it does what you want. I don't know what it is, but it would sure be nice of someone knew of a registry setting for it.
BTW, our kaisers take the phone out of standby for SMS and MMS (and phone calls, of course), but don't do so for emails. Every day email and SMS become closer to eachother to me in significance and importance, so why shouldn't they cause the phone to behave in the same way?
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Interesting. I'm sure there is something that could be done. I'd be willing to look into it. But I'd need a Samsung i760 to see if I could pull any info or software from it. So if anyone has a Samsung i760 they'd like to give me for development purposes of course, I'd see if we could figure out how to make this happen.
BTW, My phone does turn on the screen when I get an email.

maxh said:
Phones and everything in life can always be more. In this case our phones could, and in my opinion should, be more customizeable. The reason they aren't is because if the phone user feels overwhelmed by the complexity of their device, they may not like it and will be less likely to buy another in the future, so from a marketing standpoint there is reason to dumb things down to a degree.
I, however, want as much customizeability as possible.
My girlfriend's Samsung i760 behaves different from my kaiser. On her phone SMS messages will NOT bring the phone out of standby (and turn the display on.) It does give the requested sound and/or vibration alert and flash the LED and display the message notification on screen (when you turn it on) for the set time periods, though. The i760 runs WM6 like our kaisers. My kaiser, as well as every other HTC device I've ever owned does take the phone out of standby and turn the display on for SMS, though. So this tells me there definitely is some software method of tweaking it so that it does what you want. I don't know what it is, but it would sure be nice of someone knew of a registry setting for it.
BTW, our kaisers take the phone out of standby for SMS and MMS (and phone calls, of course), but don't do so for emails. Every day email and SMS become closer to eachother to me in significance and importance, so why shouldn't they cause the phone to behave in the same way?
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ok, good point. Have u tried some sms applications? Maybe they have the option to not to turn the screen on. (just a suggestion).

If this ever happens to you, you have a bad phone and should return it. I really hate it when MY phone wakes up and decides to randomly call someone in Hong Kong.
Seriously - I have to understand this - you really honestly think that your phone can wake up and call someone, or email someone, or SMS someone without you doing something?
Bill
jsd2 said:
If someone sends me a message i'm forced to stop everything i'm doing so that my phone doesn't get into mischief and go calling other people without my knowing.
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vibrating on startup

is there any way to prevent diamond from vibrating on startup?
thank you!

There probably is but it woudl mean you have to go through the registry to find the relevant keys and adjust them. I myself dont know which keys would do the job but im sure someone here will be able to help you out.

Now this is probably not the answer you are looking for - but why? Not trying to flame or anything, but I've noticed sometimes a lot of energy can be spent on irrelevant problems. With all due respect, this seems like one of those to me.
A bit more to the point - I strongly doubt a registry value can change that - the vibration occurs apparently BEFORE the operating system is loaded, so registry is meaningless at this point.

I think the phone does a self-test....like said before: it does vibrate before the OS loads, so I don't think there is any registery tweak for this

Caspertje19 said:
I think the phone does a self-test....like said before: it does vibrate before the OS loads, so I don't think there is any registery tweak for this
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Ya it does, it cheks all the systems on startup. So be worried if it does NOT vibrate, means your vib crappppeddd out.
Cheers boys

pedmond said:
Now this is probably not the answer you are looking for - but why? Not trying to flame or anything, but I've noticed sometimes a lot of energy can be spent on irrelevant problems. With all due respect, this seems like one of those to me.
A bit more to the point - I strongly doubt a registry value can change that - the vibration occurs apparently BEFORE the operating system is loaded, so registry is meaningless at this point.
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sure it's one of the less important things...
but for me it's a annoying one because i always let spb-backup do a daily backup (which is rebooting after the job) early in the morning when i'm still sleeping - it was fine with trinity (there i had also to do a reg-tweak to disable startup-animation with sound) - with diamond sometimes i get scared from the vibration...
and yes - i'm not sleeping like a log...

endebe said:
sure it's one of the less important things...
but for me it's a annoying one because i always let spb-backup do a daily backup (which is rebooting after the job) early in the morning when i'm still sleeping - it was fine with trinity (there i had also to do a reg-tweak to disable startup-animation with sound) - with diamond sometimes i get scared from the vibration...
and yes - i'm not sleeping like a log...
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Hehe - I see your point. Not much you can do about it though, I'm afraid.
This being said, if that vibration wakes you up, I really hope your home is VERY soundproof

Or simply put your diamond on or under a pillow.

Obviously there needs to be a movie about those horrible phones that go around terrifying people in their sleep!
That said, presumably you are putting the phone on a hard surface? Try putting it on something soft and wooly. Should significantly cut down the noise from those demonic vibrations.

Don't think there's a way to do that. The Touch Cruise does the same, and no one has figured out a way to disable it there as far as I know.
The issue with putting it on a soft surface to not make noise is (presumably) that if he did get an actual call or message, it would also silence that as well.
Can you change your schedule for SPB Backup to do its thing just as you go to sleep instead of in the middle of the night? Or if you don't always sleep at the same time, kick it off manually just as you go to sleep or step into the shower?
I know these don't solve your question, but are ideas to create the desired outcome

i hope i am not ruining this important topic with my high tech proposal for a solution.....
maybe it will be less stressful if you'll program the back up at a different hour....let's say ....when you are brushing yr teeth in the evening....BEFORE you go to sleep.
the back up (thanks god for SPB backup, it saved my ass so many times) takes only 3-4 minutes. right before you'll go to the lalala world you'll hear the reassuring vibe and you'll fall asleep with a smile on yr face knowing that the job is done.
good night, sweet prince. good night back-uped diamond....

I love how this topic gets so many replied but more usefull problems get none. Got to love the internet
I could code you a microcontroller to ignore any vibration signal for the first 30 seconds from start. All you'd need to do is open your diamond and solder it inside.
Hey its a solution

someone1234 said:
I love how this topic gets so many replied but more usefull problems get none. Got to love the internet
I could code you a microcontroller to ignore any vibration signal for the first 30 seconds from start. All you'd need to do is open your diamond and solder it inside.
Hey its a solution
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lol! yr solution is very low tech comparing with mine...that's all you got?

This phone is driving me nuts

This phone is making me like...crazy!
and this is why:
I synct some playlists to the phone with windows media player 10, suddenly all playlists on my diamond are empty.
When i removed all the playlists on windows media player 10 to sync them again, it deleted all my songs!
now i got all my songs onto the device again, and wanted to alter 1 playlist, it took windows media player 6 minutes, to just alter, replace, 1 pooping playlist!\
Its not possible to remove a playlist created in the touchflo music player itself.
Not able to select it and then delete it.
Half of the icons in the games folder are ****ed up, we already have a thread with solutions(i tried all of them), but none of them worked.
And the performance, even with the tlr rom or whatever the name was, the diamond still goes slow!
And the battery depletes quickly, with auto attach off, and incoming beam off.
Cant receive a file with bluetooth, with incoming beam on or off, it keeps saying my pc is a new device and asks if i want to set a password, no matter if i set a password or not, it goes back to the menu, and still says my pc is a new device
And i used a mod of the diamond tweaks thread, to auto lock my diamond when the screen goed off.
Well, 1/5 times, it autounlocks itself when i turn the screen back on. not good...
And finally, the opera browser is sometimes not doing what i want. sometimes goes to a random place on the page, if i move and let the stylus go, it moves back to that random page, to fix this i need to quit, then restart opera.
This happens about 1/5 times i use opera.
Is this where i payed 481 euro's for...?
Any ideas how to fix this sh!t is welcome, i already did a hard reset to try getting rid of some problems.

borgqueenx said:
This phone is making me like...crazy!
and this is why:
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Nothing to complain about the phone?

marco899 said:
Nothing to complain about the phone?
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what do you mean?
theres a whole list of bad things there.
btw: forgot to mention that the diamond stylus made some nasty scratches on the screen when wiping over the screen in opera to scroll page, or goto next photo in touchflo, ect.

Got a protector included for that.
Install a fresh rom, I don't have any of your problems.
I use bluetooth a lot:
Sending files (goes hell fast), don't want to use cable when using .cab files here
For my parrot
For use as a modem (have reached 120kbyte/second) when online with phone!
All flawless.
I have very very good results with HTC's own new rom update via e-club.
TLR nr. 2 was quite buggy at my phone.
GOod luck!

borgqueenx said:
This phone is making me like...crazy!
and this is why:
...
Any ideas how to fix this sh!t is welcome, i already did a hard reset to try getting rid of some problems.
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Spare yourself next trouble to come and sell it, as I did with mine

czbird said:
Spare yourself next trouble to come and sell it, as I did with mine
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what have you got now may i ask?

Humbly returned to my previous P535.
I must admit that apart from Diamond, there is currently not many devices to choose from on the market... Was thinking about getting P750, but still unsure...
Xperia scares me, mainly because of the unusual screen resolution (dunno how all the apps will handle it) and that also is supposed to be made by HTC...
Maybe Diamond Pro will not suffer from these newborn diseases that my Diamond had - will see...

i think im going for the iphone 3g. will be expensive though...
the touch diamond really disappoints me...

borgqueenx said:
Its not possible to remove a playlist created in the touchflo music player itself.
Not able to select it and then delete it.
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Use the hardware buttons beneath the screen. You can navigate to the playlist you want to delete, and hold the 'enter' button to get the menu to get the 'right mouse button menu'.
Using your fingers it is impossible as it automatically selects the playlist if you press it. No menu will pop up.

borgqueenx said:
i think im going for the iphone 3g. will be expensive though...
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What do you mean? It will be much cheaper than the Diamond.
I wonder if you're expecting to install applications on that phone, or do any customization...

Mwahahahahahha!!!!
Another Winer! XD
I'd give this post 5/5 for creativity, 6/5 for whining and -1 for usefullness ^^
you can almost FEEEL that you joined only after buying the phone, and I'd guess that it's your first WM one..
Anyway, regarding your problems..
If your phone really is that bad, it's probably broken (pre-production, grey, some dimwit dropped it in the shop or any other reason). In any case, return it by warranty, and get a new one..
Having so many people love this phone, and being able to fix the issues.. and only you and a handful of others run around whining.. Surely it's obvious that it's either a lack of hands.dll or a simple hardware failure..
I mean you should be smart enough to grasp it.... ermm.. right?
Cheers
P.S. Oh, and please don't be offended by this post.. It was mainly inspired by your post anyway, but it was written half-jokingly as I couldn't really answer seriously to that amount of QQ

@ 205_laCoste...
You're my hero.
Had a lot of trouble removing two playlists, but using the hardware buttons solved it right away....
Thank You!

I'm ready to throw my diamond out the window, for pretty much the same reasons. I paid way too much money to have so many problems. And I shouldn't have to flash a new rom. It should be good to go out of the box.
Before I'm also accused of being a whiner, there is a plethora of posts of people having the same problems....with no solutions. The bluetooth issue is a biggie. I tweak my phone to enhance it, but I shouldn't have to be a programmer to simply make it function properly. To suggest that is just arrogant.
There are things that I absolutely love about this phone, but simply as a phone it sucks.

most of the time it is not the fault of the phone but the person
using it.
a lot of people have come here after having a normal phone and
dont understand how to use this one.
treat it more like a computer than a phone.you dont have to be
a programer you just have to know how to read a thread and
follow the directions.
if you have a 1.37 rom you need to upgrade it to a 1.93.
1.37 is crap.okay it shouldnt have been but it was that why
it was upgraded to 1.93.
if you still dont get it then sell the phone.go buy a fruit
phone and get ripped off just like all the other sheep out there.

I have to stand up for nursie here. I've returned my diamond several months ago (yeah, it was driving me nuts) and am happily living with my P750... these offenses are absolutely not necessary and untrue as well as uncritically extolling the device - gee, it's just another PDA

czbird said:
I have to stand up for nursie here. I've returned my diamond several months ago (yeah, it was driving me nuts) and am happily living with my P750... these offenses are absolutely not necessary and untrue as well as uncritically extolling the device - gee, it's just another PDA
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I have to agree, to an extent.
It's generally accepted on here that the Diamond is badly configured out of the box, which is why new users are recommended to flash a new ROM. This is not a good thing, although it's great we have such a good community of chefs to help solve the problem.
What's less well accepted is that much of the HTC software on the Diamond is slow and awkward. I'm talking about TF3D and the HTC dialer in particular, get rid of them and you can make the Diamond a great little phone just like your P750.

964rs777 said:
most of the time it is not the fault of the phone but the person
using it.
a lot of people have come here after having a normal phone and
dont understand how to use this one.
treat it more like a computer than a phone.you dont have to be
a programer you just have to know how to read a thread and
follow the directions.
if you have a 1.37 rom you need to upgrade it to a 1.93.
1.37 is crap.okay it shouldnt have been but it was that why
it was upgraded to 1.93.
if you still dont get it then sell the phone.go buy a fruit
phone and get ripped off just like all the other sheep out there.
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I upgraded to 1.93. And I'm quite proficient at reading and researching. I'm also very proficient with current technology. I get it. What you don't get is that a consumer spending big bucks on this phone shouldn't have to resort to advanced tweaks (which I understand, BTW...you won't find me here asking newbie questions) in order to bring the phone up to basic performing standards.
Again.....yours is a fine example of ignorance masking itself as arrogance.

My buttons don't want to be touched...

Ok, this might be the first real problem I've had with my tilt, in a sense that I have no freakin clue what happened or how to fix it. The front buttons on the tilt as well as my keyboard decided they wanted to stop working and I have no clue how to bring them back... let me start from the beginning.
I installed m2d about 2 weeks ago, its kind of laggy but I'm still impressed with the overall UI as it compliments the tilt. Some bugs started popping up here and there but through the forum I was able to make it run relatively smoothly. Last night my tilt wouldn't connect to my computer, the usb contacts might have gone bad or something, it only works when I put pressure on the cable to keep the contacts together. Than today my screen would wake up for no reason, with no programs or application running in the front or background of the device. It was annoying to say the least. Than I got my first text of the day and went to respond using the actual keyboard, no dice. No response from the keyboard. So as Im typing using the stylus I tried to delete something, and the backspace button on the touch keypad isn't working, so more problems. I want to try and hard reset the device to see if that fixes the problem, but since I can't use the hard buttons on the front of the device I can't hard reset (the scroll wheel, ptt, and ok buttons aren't working either) Is this anything anyone has ever heard of? My tilt is kind of battered after a year of use, but nothing significant has happened within the last month to make me think that something inside came loose, especially since this just started today and it was just sitting on my table all night. I appreciate any and all help. Thanks in advance.

might be "m2d" not compatible ... hair wired ..
I wonder ..whether we can install window CE from pc to h/p through usb link ...
"Last night my tilt wouldn't connect to my computer, the usb contacts might have gone bad or something, it only works when I put pressure on the cable to keep the contacts"
r u using original usb cable ..b'cos now a day I saw many only using normal "small" usb cable head which easily spoil the connector at phone ... too loose for that sharp..

l3urton32 said:
Ok, this might be the first real problem I've had with my tilt, in a sense that I have no freakin clue what happened or how to fix it. The front buttons on the tilt as well as my keyboard decided they wanted to stop working and I have no clue how to bring them back... let me start from the beginning.
I installed m2d about 2 weeks ago, its kind of laggy but I'm still impressed with the overall UI as it compliments the tilt. Some bugs started popping up here and there but through the forum I was able to make it run relatively smoothly. Last night my tilt wouldn't connect to my computer, the usb contacts might have gone bad or something, it only works when I put pressure on the cable to keep the contacts together. Than today my screen would wake up for no reason, with no programs or application running in the front or background of the device. It was annoying to say the least. Than I got my first text of the day and went to respond using the actual keyboard, no dice. No response from the keyboard. So as Im typing using the stylus I tried to delete something, and the backspace button on the touch keypad isn't working, so more problems. I want to try and hard reset the device to see if that fixes the problem, but since I can't use the hard buttons on the front of the device I can't hard reset (the scroll wheel, ptt, and ok buttons aren't working either) Is this anything anyone has ever heard of? My tilt is kind of battered after a year of use, but nothing significant has happened within the last month to make me think that something inside came loose, especially since this just started today and it was just sitting on my table all night. I appreciate any and all help. Thanks in advance.
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Go to Start/Settings/System/Clear Storage

and your usb is probably whack

@kaiserII...your usb is whack, haha. that **** made me laugh.

having same exact issue
ya it happened to me sunday night, having exact same problem. keyboard doesnt work, and my front buttons dont work exept for the the center button which ends up opening the start menu (wrong command). Im over my 1 year warrenty and not sure what to do. Had to buy a cheap 40 dollar nokia for the time being, please help if someone can. Oh and I did a hard reset, and it didnt fix anything. Booted android with it and 1 out of 5 times the buttons came back, this is really weird/vexing.

l3urton32 said:
Ok, this might be the first real problem I've had with my tilt, in a sense that I have no freakin clue what happened or how to fix it. The front buttons on the tilt as well as my keyboard decided they wanted to stop working and I have no clue how to bring them back... let me start from the beginning.
I installed m2d about 2 weeks ago, its kind of laggy but I'm still impressed with the overall UI as it compliments the tilt. Some bugs started popping up here and there but through the forum I was able to make it run relatively smoothly. Last night my tilt wouldn't connect to my computer, the usb contacts might have gone bad or something, it only works when I put pressure on the cable to keep the contacts together. Than today my screen would wake up for no reason, with no programs or application running in the front or background of the device. It was annoying to say the least. Than I got my first text of the day and went to respond using the actual keyboard, no dice. No response from the keyboard. So as Im typing using the stylus I tried to delete something, and the backspace button on the touch keypad isn't working, so more problems. I want to try and hard reset the device to see if that fixes the problem, but since I can't use the hard buttons on the front of the device I can't hard reset (the scroll wheel, ptt, and ok buttons aren't working either) Is this anything anyone has ever heard of? My tilt is kind of battered after a year of use, but nothing significant has happened within the last month to make me think that something inside came loose, especially since this just started today and it was just sitting on my table all night. I appreciate any and all help. Thanks in advance.
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Exactly the same thing has happened to me!! Coming on randomly, draining the battery really quickly and the same keys doing the same things as yours i.e. nothing or Start menu. The backspace and space don't work on the on-screen keyboard either. Is it the end of the road or has anyone the slightest idea what the hell to do!?!?!?

Same issue but slightly different
2 days ago I started hearing a noise from my phone that was not something I normally hear. After checking my phone I found out it was the voice recorder program opening up on its own. It started repeatedly doing this and recording automatically. I had to hold down the close option (X) and before it would stop. AFter a reset and when the phone wakes up it always does this now. Along with all these whacky problems my hard buttons stopped working. My scroll wheel and D-pad sometimes work and only the up, down, left and right arrows work on the keyboard. Camera button seems to work sometimes also. All others have stopped responding. Except for holding the power key. I just reflashed my phone to latest phoenix ROM and problem is the same. Is this it for the phone or is there a fix.
Anyone??? Please!!

Try this free fix
I had the same problem as the original poster. My fix was to download AE Button Plus trial and use it to reset my keys to their original setting. I did not have to do the keyboard, just the external keys. Now my tilt works like it used to.
This fixed the problem when clear storage and reloading roms did not.
It doesn't hurt to try since the trial is free.
Good Luck,
Will

same here... help pls...
any one yet has found a solution for this issue??? 2days ago my Kaiser suddenly started with same problems, buttons dont work and the recorder goes on, any one yet found a way to fix it??? thanks...

I have no idea if this will actually help anyone but I installed japanese input on my kaiser once and during the process a registry got edited that stopped my hardware keyboard and the hardware keys (front keys) from working and the fix was to correct the value:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010411]
edit the 0010411 value to "00000409"
again I have no idea if this will help but it wouldnt hurt to check to see if the registry somehow got changed. Goodluck and I hope you guys figure it out.

didnt work...
dantegl36 said:
I have no idea if this will actually help anyone but I installed japanese input on my kaiser once and during the process a registry got edited that stopped my hardware keyboard and the hardware keys (front keys) from working and the fix was to correct the value:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010411]
edit the 0010411 value to "00000409"
again I have no idea if this will help but it wouldnt hurt to check to see if the registry somehow got changed. Goodluck and I hope you guys figure it out.
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thanks anyways "dantegl36" but it didnt work...

I have the same issue
This is intresting, I just posted on this, as I am having the same issue, which of course just started a few days ago. I have the updated UI as well but I installed it as well.

Any idea how to fix it??

keyboard fix "edfc" problem
yes , kaiser tweak slide wake disabled ...it OK
Greetings from Olsztyn Poland
Unfortunately, the problem returned it was only a temporary improvement, sorry

For my tytn2 after rom upgrade, the front buttons do not respond except the central one. the side buttons are responding under the win only but in the bootloader screen they don't respond. and I cannot make a hard reset.
I did a hard reset through the setting menu but still the problem has not been solved. Adding on that the keyboard doesn't work except the arrow keys.
Do anyone can figure a solution for that. except the hardware problem bec I am out of warranty.
Did anyone was able to solve the problem fully?

oo wow, i have the same problem. hope theres a fix

adding to that the the bluetooth is turnino on by itself even if I switched it off and the device by itself after time of switching it off it refuse to start again unless I did a soft reset.
I tried all the avilabe suggestion but nothing worked.

Hiya
This seems to be a problem with the TyTn II - there are several threads in this forum about it, none of which have any working solutions that I ever found...
I spent ages trying different ROMS, Radios and pressing of buttons and haven't found a solution - other than to disown the TyTn II and get another phone! I did pick it up again the other day and it is still refusing to have working buttons or keyboard (as reported by others, only the central buttons seems to work all the time as a Start Menu button).
I did manage to stop it eating battery at a ridiculous rate by turning it to specific radio settings rather than letting it find its own GPRS/ 3G and phone band. I think it was in this thread
I was considering sending my TynTn II to HTC, but I'm not sure it's going to be worth the postage and their service fees as I've already replaced it with a Touch Pro 2. Then again if we ALL sent them in, they might acknowledge some sort of problem with this model.

samstables said:
Hiya
This seems to be a problem with the TyTn II - there are several threads in this forum about it, none of which have any working solutions that I ever found...
I spent ages trying different ROMS, Radios and pressing of buttons and haven't found a solution - other than to disown the TyTn II and get another phone! I did pick it up again the other day and it is still refusing to have working buttons or keyboard (as reported by others, only the central buttons seems to work all the time as a Start Menu button).
I did manage to stop it eating battery at a ridiculous rate by turning it to specific radio settings rather than letting it find its own GPRS/ 3G and phone band. I think it was in this thread
I was considering sending my TynTn II to HTC, but I'm not sure it's going to be worth the postage and their service fees as I've already replaced it with a Touch Pro 2. Then again if we ALL sent them in, they might acknowledge some sort of problem with this model.
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can I know how did u mange to change the rom? bec even my side buttons refuse to work whenever I am at the bootloader screen and the upgrade through the active sync failed.