Hey,
I thought updated firmware fixed the stock messaging battery issue?
My phone had a full charge and 2 hours later, 15 texts sent/received, im down to 87% Just unlocking my screen now, i went from 89% to 87%!!
What is going on!! I have SMS popup.
I was just looking up stuff because my phone lately has been draining fast and I really have not been using it. I am at 65% and I have barely been using it today.It came off the charge at 10 and it's 12:30 now. Something is up. I can't seem to find an app that tells me which apps are using data in the background cause I think that might be my problem. Also, I checked Spare Parts and it said Facebook was Partially Awake for over 30 mins with only 14 hours up time. Hmm. I don't even have Facebook set to auto sync.
vrundmc said:
Hey,
I thought updated firmware fixed the stock messaging battery issue?
My phone had a full charge and 2 hours later, 15 texts sent/received, im down to 87% Just unlocking my screen now, i went from 89% to 87%!!
What is going on!! I have SMS popup.
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Post your up and awake times.
I've had this issue since I had this phone. I go to school with 100% charge at 8:30 and by the time I get out 12:30 it's usually around 55-65% with very limited usage. I've had fresh rom, modaco, and all the available aosp roms and it's the same issue no matter what so I just learned that if I want this phone it's has to live on the charger when I don't use it.
cheyne1 said:
I've had this issue since I had this phone. I go to school with 100% charge at 8:30 and by the time I get out 12:30 it's usually around 55-65% with very limited usage. I've had fresh rom, modaco, and all the available aosp roms and it's the same issue no matter what so I just learned that if I want this phone it's has to live on the charger when I don't use it.
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How many bars do you get in the classroom? Poor phone signal will drain a phone very fast. There's a couple conference rooms here where I work in the basement where phones get no signal and I see the battery on my phone drain much faster. This happened on all my previous phones as well (HTC Mogul, Diamond, etc.).
-Daryel
cheyne1 said:
I've had this issue since I had this phone. I go to school with 100% charge at 8:30 and by the time I get out 12:30 it's usually around 55-65% with very limited usage. I've had fresh rom, modaco, and all the available aosp roms and it's the same issue no matter what so I just learned that if I want this phone it's has to live on the charger when I don't use it.
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In school.....
how does it perform outside of school.. when you are at home on weekends or other places????
I am only guessing here..
but at big university, the buildings are very big.. and sometimes in hard to get receptions areas...
so, the phone might be looking for the phone network, and that will drain the battery very fast...
sorry, where can I find up and awake times? Total newbie I know...
I found "Time spent without sleeping: 36 Minutes"
I also noticed that my battery is at 73% now for SysTray Monitor but the HTC battery icon is nowhere near 1/4th gone. Looks like 1/10th is gone.
battery drain at school
another thing to consider is that if the school has wifi available and your's is turned on on the phone, it may be connecting or attempting to connect, to the school's wifi. just a thought. i tend to turn mine off, as well as my bluetooth headset, when i go to work. seems to help, but i also have a battery drain problem. this doesn't solve it, but, like i said, it helps. i also turn my screen off manually, rather than just setting it down and letting the screen turn off automatically. every bit of energy saved helps, but it will only get about 25-50 percent better. doesn't completely solve the battery drain problem. if anyone finds a sure-fire way to solve this problem, please post and post and post. i've seen this problem arise all over the place on XDA as well as other sites. may even start a new thread with the solution so it will pop up in the search.
daryelv said:
How many bars do you get in the classroom? Poor phone signal will drain a phone very fast. There's a couple conference rooms here where I work in the basement where phones get no signal and I see the battery on my phone drain much faster. This happened on all my previous phones as well (HTC Mogul, Diamond, etc.).
-Daryel
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Dan330 said:
In school.....
how does it perform outside of school.. when you are at home on weekends or other places????
I am only guessing here..
but at big university, the buildings are very big.. and sometimes in hard to get receptions areas...
so, the phone might be looking for the phone network, and that will drain the battery very fast...
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I guess this isn't something I have not really looked at but now it does make sense, b/c in some rooms it is hit or miss so i'll just throw it into airplane mode when i'm indoors and see how that goes. Thanks
by the way...
i am also experiencing a situation where when i plug my phone in to charge, it will charge regularly through about 80%, then it seems to fly through the last 20% within a matter of minutes. it was at 82% last night when i checked it (it was already on the charger for about an hour). then i put a bowl of soup in the microwave for 2 1/2 minutes. when my soup was done i just happened to look at my phone, and it was already up to 96%! that just can't be accurate. something is causing it to either charge improperly or the battery charge reading is somehow inaccurate. anyone else experiencing this strangeness when charging that also has the battery drain problem? as many times as i've seen these problems posted together, they have got to be related to each other.
There is an option to wipe the battery in Recovery.
Charge the phone fully, and then Wipe the battery while it is still 100% charged. This will help the battery reflect a more accurate percentage.
crunchybutternut said:
There is an option to wipe the battery in Recovery.
Charge the phone fully, and then Wipe the battery while it is still 100% charged. This will help the battery reflect a more accurate percentage.
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I did that, it worked for a few days...then I started to have issues. I think it was when I switched back to the stock messaging app. I was using Handcent before.
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sorry, where can I find up and awake times? Total newbie I know...
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Settings->About Phone->Status
Scroll to the bottom.
up time- 4:05
Awake time- 0:32
Seems reasonable. I was on the phone for a while
You're reading way too much into the precision of that battery widget.
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You're reading way too much into the precision of that battery widget.
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LOL.. Point taken. Thanks
well, are you guys using modaco's custom ROM or kernel? there's an issue with the power management that HTC didn't include when the released the kernel... but i'm not completely sure what causes it.
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Yesterday I left the diamond on my desk. This morning it was dead. After some charging I could switch it on and as expected the battery was as flat as it can get. But why?! I'm sure I closed all applications yesterday!
Seems I got an very unreliable phone now... You never know if you can use it some hours later... Not really what I expect of a phone.
Again a new thread which is completely senseless... there are many topics about the battery. Better to find a solution there, than to clog the forum with complaint topics about the same subject over and over again.
mods needed
to clean the diamond threads up...this is just getting silly
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Yesterday I left the diamond on my desk. This morning it was dead. After some charging I could switch it on and as expected the battery was as flat as it can get. But why?! I'm sure I closed all applications yesterday!
Seems I got an very unreliable phone now... You never know if you can use it some hours later... Not really what I expect of a phone.
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Remember to close Data Connections from CommManager. And if you don't use WCDMA, switch band type to GSM (CommManager -> Settings -> Band -> Select your network type). Bad WCDMA-band signal eats battery like lion.
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Again a new thread which is completely senseless... there are many topics about the battery. Better to find a solution there, than to clog the forum with complaint topics about the same subject over and over again.
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As is your post...
I don't complain about short battery life! Less than one night must be a failure. I already have switched off 3G network and GPRS. I read some of the other battery threads but they didn't help me.
So what else can I do? Something is eating battery - but what?
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As is your post...
I don't complain about short battery life! Less than one night must be a failure. I already have switched off 3G network and GPRS. I read some of the other battery threads but they didn't help me.
So what else can I do? Something is eating battery - but what?
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My post is in one of those useless complaint threads.
Your opening post seems more a complaint than a question. That is not useful. It would have made more sense to post what you have posted now: More information on what you have done so far, as well as ending the post with a question.
When you left the phone in the evening, how many bars were left (I mean the green coloured bars when you are in the energy settings). I have noticed that when there are only 2 bars left, the battery is already almost entirely flat.
How much battery life did it have before you left it on your desk?
I normally have to charge every day, as the battery life falls to approx. 60% after my moderate usage.
but i expect it should last about 1.5 - 2 days if i dont charge it.
ensure you have all the power management settings are enabled in 'advanced config tool' by schaps.
and ensure that you are manually configured to connect onto 2g.
How much battery life did it have before you left it on your desk?
I normally have to charge every day, as the battery life falls to approx. 60% after my moderate usage.
but i expect it should last about 1.5 - 2 days if i dont charge it.
ensure you have all the power management settings are enabled in 'advanced config tool' by schaps.
and ensure that you are manually configured to connect onto 2g.
Ok, you're right. I should have posted a question. Sorry for that!
The battery was fully charged. I just took it off the USB cord before going to bed.
3G is completely disabled on my phone.
Perhaps I should leave the device as I did yesterday evening and then watch whats happening. Perhaps an application pops up and drains the battery.
schaps: should one really enable all power management features?! e.g. "sd memory...", "async1..." and so on? They're all disabled on mine. Didn't read something about these options here yet.
Your answers are affirming what I thougt - it's not normal (even for the diamond) that the battery doesn't last a single night.
Hi
i am installed Beepes ROM
3G enabled - Batterie 100% after Night 86%
very nice
Yes 14% for one night would be nice. I have to wait for german roms to appear though...
I have read about some devices popping on when it is exactly 00:00. Not every night, but they've noticed once or so. No clue why it does this... maybe your phone did the same, and didn't go back to standby anymore.
Fully charged it should last 2 days using it for a few calls, sms and email functionality.
Damn... now I know how you feel. At this moment i have over slept almost 2 hours... The phone was 90% full when I went to bed, and empty this morning. No alarm for that matter...
This seems like some sort of bug indeed! Did anyone else have the same problem, and did you find a solution?
Is this maybe due to the google maps-bug? I've read that it doesn't close the gps port properly after use, and therefore the batt-troubles. To tired to find a link.. :/
I've never used Google Maps.
But I had TouchFlo activated. Since I disabled it i didn't have battery problems...
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I've never used Google Maps.
But I had TouchFlo activated. Since I disabled it i didn't have battery problems...
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I didn't use the Google Maps either since the last hard reset. As the device wasn't hot all day long, I doubt if it was the GPS being on without me knowing.
However, I do expect it has something to do with one of the communication chips inside (GPS, WiFi, GSM, BT). Yesterday was the first night I have slept with the telephone NOT being in the flight mode. Normally I always use the flight mode so I can sleep without being disturbed. So possibly some 'bug' turns on one of the most draining comm chips for no reason at all.
Ofcourse I could disable the TFL3D, but then I will not know wheter it was really the solution. It might just as well be a one time thing...
@Murks-Muell...
Could this be punishment for me for the first few posts in this thread? Quite a coincidence!
205_lacoste said:
Damn... now I know how you feel. At this moment i have over slept almost 2 hours... The phone was 90% full when I went to bed, and empty this morning. No alarm for that matter...
This seems like some sort of bug indeed! Did anyone else have the same problem, and did you find a solution?
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you disabled gprs auto attach?
this feature sucks a lot of battery.
i have tuned my diamond (stock german rom 1.37.407.2) that it needs less 10% over the night (note im only on gsm).
Hornet331 said:
you disabled gprs auto attach?
this feature sucks a lot of battery.
i have tuned my diamond (stock german rom 1.37.407.2) that it needs less 10% over the night (note im only on gsm).
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Yep, GPRS auto attach is disabled. Even so, even if it was on, it should not be able to drain the battery that much in one night, especially when nog program is running! I also use the GSM band (not 3G). Any other night my phone uses virtually no energy.
Battery going flat overnight happened to me on ONE occasion.
After recharging and switching on I noticed that the screen never went off, and it seemed that the device had somehow unticked the 'turn off if device is unused for xx seconds' setting.
I figured my device had woken up for some reason (maybe an all day appointment with a reminder that triggered at midnight), then just sat there draining with the screen on.
Ticked the setting, no other changes and I easily get 2 or 3 days normal usage again...
I have had this issue the first night and this morning nearly again. When I wake up and I started Opera to visit a news site and I have read some articles the phone stopped. There was no low battery signal.
i'm using donut's android build and this battery/charging problem is driving me nuts. my battery lasts 4-5 hours max and the weird thing is it only takes 10 -15 mins to show my battery is fully charged. i tried flashing again, left the phone until it dies by itself and charge it, left it being charged over night but none of them helps. anyone having same issue? i know with android on our vogue the battery life sux but is it this bad??
djpj1981 said:
i'm using donut's android build and this battery/charging problem is driving me nuts. my battery lasts 4-5 hours max and the weird thing is it only takes 10 -15 mins to show my battery is fully charged. i tried flashing again, left the phone until it dies by itself and charge it, left it being charged over night but none of them helps. anyone having same issue? i know with android on our vogue the battery life sux but is it this bad??
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might be time for a new battery. It should take 30 to 45 mins to charge. And it should last longer than that. How much time do you spend playing games ect. Gps also is a battery drainer. Also alot of data usage.
djpj1981 said:
i'm using donut's android build and this battery/charging problem is driving me nuts. my battery lasts 4-5 hours max and the weird thing is it only takes 10 -15 mins to show my battery is fully charged. i tried flashing again, left the phone until it dies by itself and charge it, left it being charged over night but none of them helps. anyone having same issue? i know with android on our vogue the battery life sux but is it this bad??
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My battery can last all or most of the day with moderate use on Android.
If you are running off an SD card, try booting back into windows for a day or so to see if you have a similar battery problem there too. Actually, windows battery life was MUCH worse for me. The difference is that Android does not wake the screen for Calendar alerts or text messages like WinMo does... though in Android you do still get the vibrate or sound alert.
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My battery can last all or most of the day with moderate use on Android.
If you are running off an SD card, try booting back into windows for a day or so to see if you have a similar battery problem there too. Actually, windows battery life was MUCH worse for me. The difference is that Android does not wake the screen for Calendar alerts or text messages like WinMo does... though in Android you do still get the vibrate or sound alert.
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win mo is actually quite ROM dependent (NFSFAN's ROMs got awesome battery life). android is pretty kernel dependent. if you are charging overnight, and using latest zimage/kernel, and turing off syncing (background data), and that is the battery life you are getting, you need a new battery.
i use gps a lot as i work as a field technician but i don't have gps turned on all the time while im driving as the screen shuts off by itself in a minute or so. maybe gps is still working even with the screen shut off? and it's a nand install so trying with winmo is not possible. i had much better battery life with winmo for sure. if i turn off the syncing will i still be able to use gps?
Which NBH are you using? The newest ones are way better than the older ones. If your using a current one check out tatnai's FAQ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5599516&postcount=33
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Which NBH are you using? The newest ones are way better than the older ones. If your using a current one check out tatnai's FAQ...
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not the latest but not too old either. less than 2 weeks... not even. what's nbh anyways? what does it do? and thanks will check out that thread
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not the latest but not too old either. less than 2 weeks... not even. what's nbh anyways? what does it do? and thanks will check out that thread
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It's the kernel. you know the file you rename RUU_signed and you flash.
I am definitely having this problem as well, and the charge does not last very long it seems either. Was much, MUCH better in the Windows Mobile builds I was using previously.
I am on Bell using the basic HTC Touch
Same problem here. Brand new battery on bell.
Yeah, although battery life is positively improved and pretty decent now, there is definitely still something funky going on with charging. I still don't rely on / believe when the phone says it is fully charged. It happens too quickly to be possibly true.
I have the exact same issue and it is absolutely a problem with charging within Android. I have two identical batteries. One was fully charged in winmo before I flashed - I took it out and swapped for the other one. Flashed it with that battery in and charged it overnight. It only lasted about a half-day. Came home and swapped out for my other fully-charged (in winmo) battery, and it lasted for more than a day. Same settings, same use. After it discharged, I recharged overnight from Android and it behaved the same as the first - discharging in about a half-day.
What gives?
I'm curious what builds people are using? I'm totally new to this but I'm using warm donut with voguimg-240x320-06-04-10.nbh. It seems that nbh isn't posted on the sourceforge site yet - maybe I should switch back to an older one?
Maybe kernel problem.
I'm experiencing the same problem as everyone.
Lately my battery suddenly drops from 100% to 4%.
When I put to charge, it reaches 100% very fast. Should reach only 5%
I think it can be a problem in the kernel.
Now, i'm trying to solve it. If I find something I'll share with you
I can not determine which kernel brought the problem...
23/04 - 16:16 (GMT-3 - Rio de Janeiro) - Trying an old kernel
23/04 - 17:00 - Nothing. But came to the conclusion that the problem is with the battery.
Battery really "thinks" its 100% charged, since it accepts flash a nbh without the need of the phone is charging. And this only happens when the battery is at least 50% charged...
(sorry about my english. I'm brazilian and still learning english)
Some threads and posts about battery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661588
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=644453
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5599516&postcount=33
We must concentrate everything in one thread!!!
We have to use search
Good luck tiagoclc
My battery life is pretty bad and I recently bought a new OEM battery. Coming of NSFANs 6.5 rom, Myn's warm donut on 240x320 is wonderful but the battery life is pretty lousy.
Hi all, I just got my HTC Pure over the weekend and I had a question from those with more experiecne.
First I know (or I think) that the battery life will improve over the next week or so as the battery gets used and charged. Today however was an issue. The phone came off the charger this morning at 100% and then went to work. While at work there is absolutely no signal in the building. (never has been) The only time it was on the network was a 1 hour lunch, and then light internet use for approx 25 minutes this evening. That is all, no calls, nothing, and it had 19% battery left in only 12 hours off the charger.
Again, I am sure that it will improve, but the question is ... does being off the network (GSM) drain the battery faster? Does the phone use a lot of charge "searching" for signal?
I am sure that there are a lot of things that I could do to extend battery life, as a work around (no bluetooth, plug it in to the USB on the computer at work, turn off 3g etc) but I was just curious if someone in the know on how the network and battery use go together if the dead zone is the biggest problem.
Thanks
Not exactly scientific results, but before att put decent coverage in my neighborhood, the battery seemed to drain a lot faster. I guess turning it off would help, but down to 19% that quick just seems ridiculous
cmstackar said:
Not exactly scientific results, but before att put decent coverage in my neighborhood, the battery seemed to drain a lot faster. I guess turning it off would help, but down to 19% that quick just seems ridiculous
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Funny enough it is my wifes first smart phone. I was just looking at it to change some things to better suit her needs. When I opened the task manager I discovered that a) the programs would only minimize when the X button was pushed, not close and b) windows Live messenger was loaded. I would guess that even though she was not signed in on live messenger it could have killed the battery. Gonna make a couple of tweaks to ensure that it does not fire up again, and see what it looks like tomorrow.
So today was better, but she seems to have had intermittent service. Her media net indicates that it was connected all afternoon. She burned through 40% battery in the AM and only 18% in the afternoon.
I would imagine that the location services for the weather on the sense home screen as well as possibly push email running out of control searching for the signal. I will turn things off 1 at a time until I find out what is driving the battery loss.
Is there any software to monitor battery use and what was using the battery? There is in android.
O.k. continue to have issues with this phone.
Tested last night. Charged to 100% and then light use. Approx 10% down after 3 hours.
Set commmanagerpro to turn off the data and phone radio during the hours my wife is at work. She called today and the screen is showing that the phone radio is off, but it has lost 90% in less than 4 hours. She also said it is hot.
Maybe her purse is somehow turning the screen on? Would the screen being on without any radios cause the phone to plow through battery?
I am gonna try a battery monitoring app and see if it will tell me anything. Its freekin weird.
What radio version are you running?
You may want to consider flashing to a different Radio ROM.
try to see if there are any TSR, residente program, active, maybe be the the problem...
as far as radio versions the 4.49.25.91, for my exprience run far...
you can try to swcht to other radio version...
I am using the AT&T stock radio. I flashed to the energy ROM, but the battery issue is so extreme that I doubt that the radio or the ROM are the driving factor.
She does have 3 magnets in her purse. 2 magnetic catches on her side pockets and 1 on her wallet. While I could not reproduce the device turning on by itself from the magnets, that does not mean that it is not.
The other thing is that there was some warning on the screen about the GPS signal. I imagine that is a side effect of turning off the radios, but maybe not. Is the GPS always on normally? Would a GPS pop up cause the screen to stay on for possibly 3 hours.
This afternoons test will be having her leave her phone in her jacket pocket rather than her purse. We will see how it goes.
saunet_ptg said:
try to see if there are any TSR, residente program, active, maybe be the the problem...
as far as radio versions the 4.49.25.91, for my exprience run far...
you can try to swcht to other radio version...
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I will look at that radio. I doubt its a program since I had no problems with it at home last night. It has to be environmental. My money is on the purse, but we will see. I'll post later and let you know what we came up with.
There was a few days ago where she lost 60% of her battery in the morning but only 12% after lunch, so that convinces me that it should be something that we can identify and work around.
Energy's ROM may have included the radio.
I had horrible luck with .91 and flashed back to .17.
Symptoms of a bad radio are rapid battery drain and device heating up.
Also, if the device heats up, it will no longer charge until the battery cools down.
If you have AGPS enabled, that was likely your error message when you turned off the radio.
A couple of pointers;
Make sure you monitor which programs are running as you may just be minimizing instead of closing.
Check your power settings and make sure to turn off screen after X minutes
make sure all updates (weather, e-mail, stocks, etc) are set to every hour.
Bruce Inman said:
Energy's ROM may have included the radio.
I had horrible luck with .91 and flashed back to .17.
Symptoms of a bad radio are rapid battery drain and device heating up.
Also, if the device heats up, it will no longer charge until the battery cools down.
If you have AGPS enabled, that was likely your error message when you turned off the radio.
A couple of pointers;
Make sure you monitor which programs are running as you may just be minimizing instead of closing.
Check your power settings and make sure to turn off screen after X minutes
make sure all updates (weather, e-mail, stocks, etc) are set to every hour.
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Thank you for your advise. The biggest area of opportunity from your list for me is the Radio I think.
The rapid discharge of the battery due to a bad flash, would that be location specific? The rapid drain only seems to happen in a spot where she has no signal (thus the reason I programed it to turn off the radio in those hours)
The running program should no be an issue. To prevent that, as a matter of standard setup for my phones, they have a small script that soft resets them every morning a 4am, so that they are fresh and clean for the start of the day.
As for updates, I have adjusted everything that I can, and some did not have any effect (mostly because the radio was off, can't save much more than that).
I do leave the bluetooth on all day. That should not be draining the battery in 3.5 hours though. I have read a lot of the battery life threads and many of the ideas would cripple the phone, and I am not going there. Sure maybe I don't need weather updated every 30 minutes, but I want me email when it comes in, not once every few hours. I also don't want to have to push 20 buttons each time I want to make the internet work. Its this kind of usability that sells iPhones... I hate them, but they really do just work... and my wife wants a phone that you don't need to be an expert to use.
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Thank you for your advise. The biggest area of opportunity from your list for me is the Radio I think.
The rapid discharge of the battery due to a bad flash, would that be location specific? The rapid drain only seems to happen in a spot where she has no signal (thus the reason I programed it to turn off the radio in those hours).
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Do you know how to view your radio version? Its listed on the bottom of your phone when you reset, the 3 numbers that display, R is the radio version.
You can go to the radio thread and flash another version, just keep testing different versions until you get one that works well. Radio ROMs will not overwrite your data.
Radio's are definitely location specific in regards to region and carrier.
Borderline coverage is a major battery killer, but you're disabling the radio, which should resolve that issue...
G-Profile is a nice app that allows you to set what type of connection and when.
Bruce Inman said:
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Mine didn't and I used the May 1st update. Still Stock.
If no signal is happening in the building, I would think it's the various things continuously trying to run, like Email, GPS etc. Constant failed attempts to update your phone's apps would definitely drag the battery down in a hurry. I have my email set to 3 hrs. updates along with weather updates. Nothing I do is so important at this point in my life that faster than 3 hr. responses are required. I also don't use things like Tweeter and FaceBook so those aren't constantly eating my battery. I get about 1.5 to 2.0 days from my battery currently.
Here is the current (no pun intended) testing results...
This AM 3.5 hours used 100% of the battery (in the purse)
This PM 4 hours used 21% of the battery (in the jacket pocket)
Gonna try to leave the phone outside of the purse all day friday and see what the results are. Then see how it works around the house on saturday, in a standard limited use type scenerio. Then Sunday put it into the purse and see if it becomes an issue again.
If all of this works out that the purse it the problem, then I will start tweaking it out, and changing radio's etc to get the max I can out of the battery.
boufa said:
Here is the current (no pun intended) testing results...
This AM 3.5 hours used 100% of the battery (in the purse)
This PM 4 hours used 21% of the battery (in the jacket pocket)
Gonna try to leave the phone outside of the purse all day friday and see what the results are. Then see how it works around the house on saturday, in a standard limited use type scenerio. Then Sunday put it into the purse and see if it becomes an issue again.
If all of this works out that the purse it the problem, then I will start tweaking it out, and changing radio's etc to get the max I can out of the battery.
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So today we left it out of the purse. Here is what we got...
On the table next to the computer, so confirmed that the screen is NOT activating at all. Phone radio off, data off.
AM... used 40% in 4 hours.
Better, but still not good. Gonna try to ensure that the email is set for longer, currently it is set for 10 minutes, and then try to turn off a-gps and the regular gps and make sure that those things are not killing the battery. Then flash a new radio. We'll see how that works next week.
First, test it and watch it over normal, with signal, average 4 hours at home this weekend. I think it will do great... meaning that it is the purse, or the environment that is causing the problem.
I don't know if anyone is following my personal drama, but maybe it will come up in a search some day and help someone.
Here is the saturday update.
Took the phone off charge at 2am and looked at it at 11 am this morning. Used only 2% in those 9 hours. So it is definitely NOT a defective device, or battery. (it actually charges up in only a couple of hours)
So looking into the profile schedule manager that I installed, turns out it has not been running. So the whole purse/no purse thing may be horse hockey still. Monday I will be setting it manually to airplane mode to verify that it holds a charge, then finding a new program to do the scheduling. (looking into phonealarm)
If the radio was on, at full power searching for a signal, it would only last approx 4 - 5 hours at best. So it makes sense that this is what is happening.
I am currently running 5.7.893 rooted and I have been having battery issues lately. The problem is I sit here , 1h 37m off of the charger and the phone is reading 80%. The breakdown looks like this:
Android OS 39%
Maps 12%
Display 11%
WiFi 9%
and a couple other small things.
It seems like my phone is never going into standby and I can't figure out why. I've checked a bunch of things and no luck. If I click the chart at the top of battery info, I see "phone signal" taking a constant drain on the battery.
The only thing I can think of to do is to factory reset the phone and see if that helps.
Any ideas?
I would recommend the Factory Reset. But first, is there a chance it's a battery calibration issue? Have you checked the actual mV reading with an apps such as Spare Parts?
Before you do the reset, make sure the Backup and Restore are checked in the Privacy setting. And then after the reset make sure you check the two options presented about Backup and Restore. These show during the new setup after you enter you gmail info. Also, if not in a 4G area, if possible connect to wifi before you finish the setup as your apps will start downloading automatically. Good luck.
I did try battery calibration first without luck. I just did the factory reset and I'm charging to 100% now. I haven't done the titanium backup restore, because I want to see if installing the apps I use from scratch again will fix it rather than just restoring them.
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I did try battery calibration first without luck. I just did the factory reset and I'm charging to 100% now. I haven't done the titanium backup restore, because I want to see if installing the apps I use from scratch again will fix it rather than just restoring them.
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That's a good idea. Lately I've been letting Google install the apps and then I use Titanium to only restore data to select apps (such as Tapatalk).
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Well, now I'm confused. I haven't installed any apps yet after the factory reset. after 2h 50m of just sitting there, it's reporting:
90% still
32% Android OS
20% phone idle
16% display
16% cell standby
10% wifi
looks much better, but does this look right? I would have expected cell standby to be the dominant process.
wifi
Having the exact same problem. Seems to be draining battery at the same rate it was before the update (which was supposed to fix battery drain or so I thought). I'm-a try a little experimenting before doing a factory reset (HATE doing them). Right now, I'm theorizing the built-in Google backup process might be responsible because I've never seen so much drain before and I usually turn Google backup off since I use TiBu but forgot to disable it after the update.
In the meantime, I've prepared myself for the battery issues by purchasing the battery dock and an extra battery for three total. Swapping batteries is better than staying tethered to a wall charger so much.
EDIT 1: Looks like that did nothing. Next, I'll try wiping cache (didn't do this when I updated)
EDIT 2: Looks like not much change from wiping cache. Guess I will be trying that reset.
EDIT 3: Looks like I use the phrase "looks like" too much. However, the factory reset appears to have resolved the issue, at least initially. Fired up the phone and Android OS was only 8% of the battery usage after 10-15 minutes. Will check back if anything changes.
Disable push sync on your device.
changing and controlling your sync settings will solve your standby issues and improve your battery life.
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I think a better way of looking it this is that your phone isn't spending 32% of its time using the Android OS and only 20% of its time being idle. That's just how much battery they are using. Your phone could be spending 3 hours "idle" and only 15 minutes using the OS and this is how it could read. It's just how much battery each one is using, not how much time each one is spending doing that particular task.
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Well, now I'm confused. I haven't installed any apps yet after the factory reset. after 2h 50m of just sitting there, it's reporting:
90% still
32% Android OS
20% phone idle
16% display
16% cell standby
10% wifi
looks much better, but does this look right? I would have expected cell standby to be the dominant process.
wifi
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Are you on stock ROM? I'm running the Liberty ROM and sitting at 78% battery at 24hrs13min on stock battery. Cell standby 49%, Phone idle 48%, Display 3%.
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Are you on stock ROM? I'm running the Liberty ROM and sitting at 78% battery at 24hrs13min on stock battery. Cell standby 49%, Phone idle 48%, Display 3%.
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I call BS to this...unless you have had airplane mode on the whole time...lol.
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I'm with noosympathy on that one.
A ROM will improve better life but not that much... maybe if you ran it on 3G only, but then again, that is a maybe.
A lot of your battery is used when your phone is syncing.
When connected to 4G, it uses a lot of power trying to get a signal as well.
To help get some more life out of your battery, disable push syncing and notifications.
I set mine to 1 hour because I don't like being bothered for stupid bs.
When your in a place where you know you don't get 4G, turn it off. It is going to try to aquire a 4g signal while running on 3G the whole time draining your battery.
If am out and don't need 4G, I turn it off. It only takes about 15 seconds to turn it back on and have it link up.
Do you really need to be on 4G to play angry birds?
I recommend installing tasker. You can program stuff like this into it.
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Maybe I'm weird, but I don't have a need for 4G data all the time. 95% of the time I leave it turned off and battery life is quite nice with the Bionic just riding on 3G. If I'm in a situation where 4G would be useful I'll manually turn it on. Battery life is so much nicer when the radios in the phone aren't constantly fighting for supremacy.
Call it as you will. I leave data off unless I need it for something and when I do use it I only use 3g. Most of the time I'm in a wifi area so I'll just use wifi. Speaking of wifi I leave that turned off also unless I need to use it then I turn that on for the time being and turn it back off when I'm done with it. Other then that I use my phone mainly for texting, and calling when need be. If I'm home I use the home phone to talk, and when I'm at work, I use my cell strictly for text and if you really need me I'll talk to you by office phone. I also leave gps off. I see no reason to leave it on. I tried to post a pic of battery life yesterday but it would not take for some reason.. Like I said. You can call BS all you like. I know what my phone did for the last 30 hrs. Last night I charged it. Downloaded a few apps, and updated some app and played angry birds for awhile last night before I threw it on the charger. Maybe that charge was a fluke. I dunno, but that charge was honestly what I had. Pretty sad to sign up to a forum, look for good info and also try and help out someone else with this phone and give insight and then be called a liar by other folks. Maybe I just won't post anymore. Hope you all enjoy your phones and ROM's. I'll just tend to myself.
hey everyone,
firstly, i just wanna say that the HTC Incredible S is a solid and terrific device, previously owning an iPhone 4 i might like the HTC better, except for some things...
The battery:
i read some reviews before buying and every reviewer seemed to love the phone and what the battery has to offer. I've owned the phone for a week, and charge it through the USB cable, connected to my PC, and sometimes the wall socket.
But it seems to me that the battery is a bit short.... if i want the battery full i will let it charge overnight, the next day i powered it on, sent a few texts and listened to half a song and the battery has already drained to 70%, coming to this from an iPhone 4 is disgusting.
I've got Auto-Sync and background data working, i like push notifications for Emails and Facebook and i like the weather to update on its own, also HTC sense incase i need to do things remotely, everything else has been set not to sync.
One of my favorite features is Auto Brightness, which is enabled on default, but when i check battery use it says that 70% has gone to the display, 12% cell network and everything else. I have a task killer that kills all processes when i turn the screen off..
Any help??
Wiping the battery stats a few times helped me, I used to recharge the phone to full battery and after unplugging it from the charger, it would drop to 94% in a few seconds...Oh, after 2-3 weeks, not after a week!
Also I get twice the battery life on Cyanogen 7.1, than on any other Rom I've tried...I get at least 2-3 days with good usage, tons of mails, sms, calls, weather apps etc. Wifi and BT always on. No juice defender or anything like that...
Dropping to ~95% can also be normal though. To preserve the battery the charging circuit should cutout when it reaches 100% charge and let it discharge to 95% before turning on again.
If you do wipe the battery stats make sure you read some guides and do it properly as I've found that more often than not it will have a detrimental affect (from needing to charge before it has fully discharged, or needing to reboot etc).
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Wiping the battery stats a few times helped me, I used to recharge the phone to full battery and after unplugging it from the charger, it would drop to 94% in a few seconds...Oh, after 2-3 weeks, not after a week!
Also I get twice the battery life on Cyanogen 7.1, than on any other Rom I've tried...I get at least 2-3 days with good usage, tons of mails, sms, calls, weather apps etc. Wifi and BT always on. No juice defender or anything like that...
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wipe the stats? sorry im still new to android but so far so good, im impressed with everything else in the incredible s, its very snappy and has a bigger screen vs iPhone 4.
if it helps, i have the phone fully turned off if i charge it overnight.
also, i read on another forum that while it's still brand new it needs to run a few charge cycles to strengthen the battery, if that is true.
It always drops to 95% when the battery is fully charged. S-ON Incredible S is not allowed to wipe battery status. Should I unlock it?
Yes, I forgot to mention...to wipe the battery stats you need to unlock the Hboot...If you have Hboot 1.16.000, then the only option is this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337105
Unlocking the Hboot is giving you a few benefits, you get to install the CWM recovery and do a full backup of your Rom...Without unlocking the Hbtoot, if your Rom crashes, you can't flash any Rom so you have to send it back to HTC Service ...With the Hboot unlocked you can install custom Roms, you can restore a full backup, you can flash GAPPS etc, wipe battery stats directly from recovery etc etc...
So many benefits...
Now back on how to wipe the stats...The principle behind is simple, if 100%=4.3V and the stats are incorrectly set for 100%=3.9V, then you're never actually recharging the battery to full capacity, which is rubbish...
The way I do it is this - charge to 100%, boot into recovery and wipe the battery stats. Now use the phone until it's shutting down and then charge to 100% again.
Very important is to avoid rebooting the phone after the stats were wiped until the phone is fully recharged. Here is a thread about this process:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359395
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Jess95 said:
wipe the stats? sorry im still new to android but so far so good, im impressed with everything else in the incredible s, its very snappy and has a bigger screen vs iPhone 4.
if it helps, i have the phone fully turned off if i charge it overnight.
also, i read on another forum that while it's still brand new it needs to run a few charge cycles to strengthen the battery, if that is true.
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In my view, recharging while the phone is off makes no difference.
Yes, it's true. With all my Android phones I went through the same thing, first week or so, the battery was rubbish, but after about 2 weeks it improved a lot.
yeah, i've had it for around one week. so i might take your word for it and give it a chance, maybe for 2 weeks. i was thinking of bringing it back to the store but i'll give it a chance.
a part from the short battery at the moment it's a pretty terrific phone and i like it more than the iPhone 4.
Once the battery is conditioned, phone is rooted, custom Rom installed, bloat frozen out or uninstalled, then you can expect your phone battery to last a good full day with regular usage. No need to switch off when charging over night.
Well its incredible enough for me
It lasts a day, which is just right for me haha
Did u remove the USB immediately aft the charging?
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well i've had it for almost 2 weeks now. I charged again overnight last night and used it to listen to music and play NinJump/Bejewled on the way home today, battery uptime was just over 30 mins and the battery was down to 70% remaining. That's a bit quick if you ask me.
Not sure what's happening with your phone...but my Inc S has really good battery life, similar to Iphone 4...
At the moment is not rooted (that's why I couldn't take a screenshot) and it's on stock 2.3.3. With BT and Wifi always on, with tons of e-mails daily, browsing, calls (at least 20 minutes per day), tons of messages, etc etc
Screen brightness is always set to maximum and I get at least 2 days battery life, see attached photo...
I'm not playing games or listen to music...so I can't test that side of things and maybe that's where the problem lies.
What's your Battery Usage app saying?
Is there anything unusual listed there?
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well i've had it for almost 2 weeks now. I charged again overnight last night and used it to listen to music and play NinJump/Bejewled on the way home today, battery uptime was just over 30 mins and the battery was down to 70% remaining. That's a bit quick if you ask me.
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Maybe try disabling the Optus bloatware. Had a bit of an improvement when I did it to mine. Also be mindful about what apps are running in the background constantly, they could also have an impact on battery life. Screen is a huge battery killer if its constantly on, autobrightness can help slightly if you haven't enabled it already.
Thanx everybody for the replies
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Not sure what's happening with your phone...but my Inc S has really good battery life, similar to Iphone 4...
At the moment is not rooted (that's why I couldn't take a screenshot) and it's on stock 2.3.3. With BT and Wifi always on, with tons of e-mails daily, browsing, calls (at least 20 minutes per day), tons of messages, etc etc
Screen brightness is always set to maximum and I get at least 2 days battery life, see attached photo...
I'm not playing games or listen to music...so I can't test that side of things and maybe that's where the problem lies.
What's your Battery Usage app saying?
Is there anything unusual listed there?
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That battery usage sounds awesome! I have mine on Auto Brightness and WiFi turned off but its nothing like yours. My battery usage app says most of it has gone to the brightness, of course that percentage goes down when i start opening apps.
edit: im also using the stock Android 2.3.3 installed from the factory. and disabled my Advanced Task Killer, battery is still the same, but the phone now lags a lot less. so thats a plus for now.
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Maybe try disabling the Optus bloatware. Had a bit of an improvement when I did it to mine. Also be mindful about what apps are running in the background constantly, they could also have an impact on battery life. Screen is a huge battery killer if its constantly on, autobrightness can help slightly if you haven't enabled it already.
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When i first got the phone i noticed Optus loaded it with rubbish apps i'd never even touch. I disabled auto updates for the bloatware and forced stop for all the ones running. it doesnt look like i can remove them though :\
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Did u remove the USB immediately aft the charging?
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Yes, after i charge it for some time i always remove the usb cord. cos its finished charging, right?
Hi when you get such good battery life, could you show us how long your screen's on for?
do you get good reception where you live? i find that seems to drain most of my battery.
Thanks
katu2006 said:
Not sure what's happening with your phone...but my Inc S has really good battery life, similar to Iphone 4...
At the moment is not rooted (that's why I couldn't take a screenshot) and it's on stock 2.3.3. With BT and Wifi always on, with tons of e-mails daily, browsing, calls (at least 20 minutes per day), tons of messages, etc etc
Screen brightness is always set to maximum and I get at least 2 days battery life, see attached photo...
I'm not playing games or listen to music...so I can't test that side of things and maybe that's where the problem lies.
What's your Battery Usage app saying?
Is there anything unusual listed there?
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tzuyang said:
Hi when you get such good battery life, could you show us how long your screen's on for?
do you get good reception where you live? i find that seems to drain most of my battery.
Thanks
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ok atm my incredible s is saying 4 hrs 26 min uptime and 1 hr 21 min awake time, 50% left. my signal here is great, the speed of the internet even beats my ADSL 2+ sometimes. should i be thinking of warranty back to store?
Before i rooted my phone i was charging my phone twice a day - this was nothing new to me as i had been charging my 3gs at least twice a day for the past two years.
However like somebody else has said, once the phone is rooted and all that optus junk has been deleted it lasts a lot longer. And you can notice the difference, my phone has been rooted for 2 days now and i have been on it none stop, modding all the appearence and downloading apps. I have been using it a lot more than i was before it was rooted and it has lasted at least twice as long. So for battery usage i should deffo root. Its HTC sense/screen that hammers your battery. Go look at battery usage and yourll see what i mean.
Also, i know this might sound stupid. But charging it through a wall socket (for me) seems quicker to charge, and seems to last longer than if its charged through a laptop/PC. Although ive thought this for my 3gs as well. If its actually true i dont know haha.
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Before i rooted my phone i was charging my phone twice a day - this was nothing new to me as i had been charging my 3gs at least twice a day for the past two years.
However like somebody else has said, once the phone is rooted and all that optus junk has been deleted it lasts a lot longer. And you can notice the difference, my phone has been rooted for 2 days now and i have been on it none stop, modding all the appearence and downloading apps. I have been using it a lot more than i was before it was rooted and it has lasted at least twice as long. So for battery usage i should deffo root. Its HTC sense/screen that hammers your battery. Go look at battery usage and yourll see what i mean.
Also, i know this might sound stupid. But charging it through a wall socket (for me) seems quicker to charge, and seems to last longer than if its charged through a laptop/PC. Although ive thought this for my 3gs as well. If its actually true i dont know haha.
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sounds just about right. my iPhone 4 needed a charge like once every 2 - 4 days, i thought it was awesome. On the Incredible S it says that 62% of the battery usage has gone to display, with very little apps on the list.
The optus apps are just sitting there. Because im on Amaysim i can't exactly use them properly because you need an actual optus account. ive tried opening some of the optus apps, they're mostly just web links and theres a Mobile TV and a Music Store app i believe, but i never at all use them. so they cant be consuming any data, memory or battery or anything, right??
Im still unsure about 'rooting'. Im guessing it's android's version of the jailbreak or a godmode on the device? i might need some help on it, i know how to flash windows mobile and jailbreak iTouch devices easily.
But then again, a lot of people have bought this phone, they cant all be experiencing terrible battery life and i dont think every user would have a root on their device.
I bought it from DickSmith here in Aus, the guy there told me there's a 1 yr back to store warranty. The phone is solid and one of the best phones i've ever had, plus a good price tag on it, its a shame to let a weak battery spoil it.
im thinking of returning it, but i heard somewhere it needs a couple weeks to strengthen the battery, if that's the case then there's no point getting a new one only to wait longer, ill give it a little more time. Plus HTC is releasing 2.3.5 software for the Incredible S soon, and wikiPedia states that it's got "Improved battery efficiency". but ill still keep root in mind for when i get more use to the device.
tzuyang said:
Hi when you get such good battery life, could you show us how long your screen's on for?
do you get good reception where you live? i find that seems to drain most of my battery.
Thanks
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Yes, about 40min to 1hour display on... sometimes more...I will attach a screenshot once I get throughout the whole battery.
Yes, generally good coverage and mostly 3G...I'm on Optus.
My phone has been rooted before, but now it's on stock Rom as an experiment...
I would strongly advise on rooting, it changes the phone completely.
And remove any animation (live wallpapers) those are killing the battery.
Also found one more thing. If you've got Facebook installed it refreshes every hour, i set mine to never refresh, but you can still receive notifications
But i still don't get why the battery drains soo quickly, even on standby.
edit: found one more thing.
uptime and awake time. when i turn the screen off and awake time should stop counting as the phone is locked and im not using any apps, right?? in some cases i've noticed the awake timer still counts.
example: awake time will read 1:52:39, turn the screen off at this point. go back a couple hours later it's been counting as awake the whole time, and has half battery life it did eventhough i haven't touched the device since locking it and turning off the screen.
in some cases the awake timer will not budge when i lock the phone and turn the screen off and still find the same amount of battery life remaining when i come back.