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This forum...

Is completely useless, what was the point of this idea? Software development as a whole has its own section in the General forums, why bring it to the kaiser? Obviously any software development issues belongs there. ROM Development is not "software development". Seeing the Kaiser v6.1 builds floating around are fake wouldn't it be better to split kaiser rom, and kaiser v6.1 as was done with hermes 5 and 6.0? Or better yet leave it as it was seeing it was managing fine as it was. No other phone section is like this for a reason...

i do agree on the 6.1 and 6.0 section like the hermes but thats about it. i love this forum. please go troll somewhere else.. like the middle of the road

I don't think there are enough 6.0 users left for seperate forums. Most ROM's are 6.1 now.
This forum is for software Development and software issues. I think this would be a good place for discussion of issues with 3rd party apps (e.g TomTom & iGO problems), where as the Kaiser general forum can be used for discussion of HTC / M$ problems and any other Kaiser issues (e.g. Breakages etc.).
My 2c's worth.

That's what this forum is for...

i use wm6 on 1 of my phones.. and actually i wouldnt use 6.1 if it wasnt for dk's rom cuz 6.1 is trash in my eyes.. no rom out can even come close to touching Q's 6.0 rom

CUSTEL said:
That's what this forum is for...
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IMHO, the creation of new applications for all WM devices.
I see your point, not many applications will be developed specifically for the kaiser (except maybe Kaiser Tweak ).
I think the Dec & Hacking should be for proper Devs & Hacks writing new apps and this be used for Kaiser Software Issues. Kaiser Software Development does seem pretty redundant.
Again, just my speculation. Maybe the mods will explain this fully in time.
cuboosh said:
i use wm6 on 1 of my phones.. and actually i wouldnt use 6.1 if it wasnt for dk's rom cuz 6.1 is trash in my eyes.. no rom out can even come close to touching Q's 6.0 rom
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Most of the Noobs, who are spamming the forums are using 6.1, so life would be quiet in the 6.0 forum

Well guys, don't take things as cast in stone just yet. It may stay or may be changed.
As someone who proposed changes there was initially one primary reason for a change:
To stop people using the Kaiser Upgrading etc... forum for everything from ROM stuff to adding a new theme.
I suggested a new title for the Upgrading forum:
Kaiser ROM and Software Development.
In other words a kind of more advanced development section that would specifically exclude the likes of adding themes, CAB requests and other routine stuff. As such the only change would really be to add the word General to the Kaiser Forum and remove the confusion of the word Upgrading from the development forum.
Being unclear in expressing myself, my suggestion for Kaiser ROM and Software Development was taken as a need for TWO Forums not a single one.
Ironically another device forum is requesting a change to the revised Kaiser setup as it is now
So lets hang loose and see what develops
Mike

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That's what this forum is for...
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lemmesee whats your fav phrase?...oh yea...go play in traffic....I think you should do that

I am still missing the newbie & locked thread section though

mikechannon said:
Well guys, don't take things as cast in stone just yet. It may stay or may be changed.
As someone who proposed changes there was initially one primary reason for a change:
To stop people using the Kaiser Upgrading etc... forum for everything from ROM stuff to adding a new theme.
I suggested a new title for the Upgrading forum:
Kaiser ROM and Software Development.
In other words a kind of more advanced development section that would specifically exclude the likes of adding themes, CAB requests and other routine stuff. As such the only change would really be to add the word General to the Kaiser Forum and remove the confusion of the word Upgrading from the development forum.
Being unclear in expressing myself, my suggestion for Kaiser ROM and Software Development was taken as a need for TWO Forums not a single one.
Ironically another device forum is requesting a change to the revised Kaiser setup as it is now
So lets hang loose and see what develops
Mike
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Then maybe someone should move all the crap request or sorry cab requests and other software questions, software gides, etc into this forum instead of the rom forum
like
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337900
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375428
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376436
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=373107
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375100
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376415
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=370208
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376383
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376331
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371503
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376358
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367410
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334759
and the list goes on

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lemmesee whats your fav phrase?...oh yea...go play in traffic....I think you should do that
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Get Aids...

ljinsane said:
lemmesee whats your fav phrase?...oh yea...go play in traffic....I think you should do that
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CUSTEL said:
Get Aids...
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Wow the maturity level of this forum has now reached a new low!

AllTheWay said:
Wow the maturity level of this forum has now reached a new low!
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Wow the worthless post level of this forum has now reached a new high!

both of you need to jump off a bridge ;\ HOLDING HANDS THAT IS!

CUSTEL said:
Wow the worthless post level of this forum has now reached a new high!
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LOL. I was just making an observation...and I was considering coming back with something very negative but your are not worth my time...but yet starting up a worthless thread like this seems to be your whole point.
So you are contributing to the worthless post level.
...and proving my point that the maturity level has reached a new low.

This probably won't end the argument. But the point of separating upgrading etc. is for more organization. If I want to look at roms I look in the rom section. If I want to find a good keyboard I'll look in this section. Another good reason for more organization for this phone as opposed to other phones is that this phone's forum population is twice as large as the next biggest forum population.
I'll save my insults for when you reply to this.

CUSTEL said:
Is completely useless, what was the point of this idea? Software development as a whole has its own section in the General forums, why bring it to the kaiser? Obviously any software development issues belongs there. ROM Development is not "software development". Seeing the Kaiser v6.1 builds floating around are fake wouldn't it be better to split kaiser rom, and kaiser v6.1 as was done with hermes 5 and 6.0? Or better yet leave it as it was seeing it was managing fine as it was. No other phone section is like this for a reason...
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Dude, what's wrong? You can't read?
Kaiser general: For general questions about the kaiser, and general issues with your kaiser.
Kaiser accessories: For discussion of accessories for the kaiser.
Kaiser software: For software development, software specific issues, cab files, programs, etc. etc.
Kaiser ROM development: For ROM development and ROM specific issues
Stop complaining. The seperation of categories as it is now will definitely assist with organizing this messy kaiser section.
And as for there being no other phone sections that are like this, well... THEY SHOULD BE. Organization is a good thing, and that's what this is.
Now if you think we need ADDITIONAL organization, by adding even more sub-categories to the current categories...... such as WM6 and WM6.1 subcategories under kaiser software... that would be cool. Otherwise... just stop.

AllTheWay said:
LOL. I was just making an observation...and I was considering coming back with something very negative but your are not worth my time...but yet starting up a worthless thread like this seems to be your whole point.
So you are contributing to the worthless post level.
...and proving my point that the maturity level has reached a new low.
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Don't give him the time of day... he's not worth it. Apparently he can't read, and has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING PRODUCTIVE to say.
VOTE BAN FOR CUSTEL IN 08' !!!!!!

nimda0 said:
Don't give him the time of day... he's not worth it. Apparently he can't read, and has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING PRODUCTIVE to say.
VOTE BAN FOR CUSTEL IN 08' !!!!!!
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The way I see it, no need to ban anyone. Custel has a pretty good opinion. No need to be negative though. But, who knows, I personally don't know about this structure, but we'll just experiment with this. Kaiser is one of the busiest forums and we get lots of post over here. I still want to see some rules be set up so noobs will search. Too many new guys posting redundent threads. What I'm afraid of is if certain threads belong to this section or other sections.

thomassster said:
The way I see it, no need to ban anyone. Custel has a pretty good opinion. No need to be negative though. But, who knows, I personally don't know about this structure, but we'll just experiment with this. Kaiser is one of the busiest forums and we get lots of post over here. I still want to see some rules be set up so noobs will search. Too many new guys posting redundent threads. What I'm afraid of is if certain threads belong to this section or other sections.
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One answer.... MOD'S!!!!!
Moderators use the many sections to keep the forums organized. I've meen a moderator of about a dozen different forums over the years.
Mods use their abilities to move threads that are in the wrong category, without deleting it. I'm telling you, more categories, and pleanty of sub-categories are very useful... and the mods can keep it all organized.

Which ROM to get: pleae assist.

hi all
this is going to sound stupid to many of you, but please, give me the time.
i have had the kaiser for a while now and been a member of modaco. but today was the first time i flashed my T2 to 6.1 using H-SPL. (link from modaco, the one with the modaco splash screen). anywho after seeing who easy it was to flash [ thanks hard spl devs ] i wanted to see what other roms there are.
however after browsing this site i just get confused with lots of releses with similar names, like throttle launcer...
i just dont know which to choose.
anywho i was wondering whether some could point me in the direction of a good 6.1 ROM which resemble the HTC diamond interface as much as possible (preferablly actually 6.1, not 6 with a theme, as 6.1 feel's much faster to me) because the diamond interface is much slicker than my current. also i would like it to have as little Non-stock software as possible.
many thanks, sorry for the stupid questions, it's a new world to me.
sorry for any spelling mistakes, ie the one in the title, i cant change that now.

I think you will either get 5 different replies or mods will close your thread... so, why don't you try each and every ones that you think you will like, and keep the one you like the most...

http://www.throttlelauncher.com/portal/
but it's real slow since kaiser don't have any graphic acceleration at all...

is throttle laucher based one 6.1? and what are your experience with?
oh hang is throttle launcher a CAB or a ROM that website you linked want me to download some cabs?
you say that TL is slow, and i am aware theat the T2 is slow as there are no drivers, i have installed the action class drivers will that help?
also mods plaese dont close/delete this, i'm completely serious, i just want some good advice.

dobby156 said:
is throttle laucher based one 6.1? and what are your experience with?
oh hang is throttle launcher a CAB or a ROM that website you linked want me to download some cabs?
you say that TL is slow, and i am aware theat the T2 is slow as there are no drivers, i have installed the action class drivers will that help?
also mods plaese dont close/delete this, i'm completely serious, i just want some good advice.
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Throttle Launcher is just an application, it's not an OS. However some cooks (such as L26) have integrated the program into their ROM. You should go out and try all the ROMs out there and decide which one best fits your needs.

ok, but can you reccomend some, one of my issues is that i cant find, them all, as they are spread all over forum over many pages,
which do you use?

I personally use my own ROM (RevROM v3.33), however the popular ones are Garmin, ROMeOS, and Dutty's (a bit outdated but still popular).

dobby156 said:
ok, but can you reccomend some, one of my issues is that i cant find, them all, as they are spread all over forum over many pages,
which do you use?
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Have a look through the kaiser wiki, there are 2 sections on the page 1 alist of cooked roms the other official releases, all 6.1 Roms are there. clik the xda wiki link at the top of the page!

lifanus said:
http://www.throttlelauncher.com/portal/
but it's real slow since kaiser don't have any graphic acceleration at all...
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Slow? Not on my Kaiser with Laurentius last Beta3 V10 ROM + new HTCClassAction's drivers

Definitive Answer... sort of.....
Howdy™
Out of curiosity, what will you be using your T2 for? Multimedia, classic PDA use, IT tool, navigational aide, etc...?
The reason why I ask is because, depending on your answer, there would be several ROMs to consider that carry both the basic functionality, as well as advanced functionality(with the help of additional programs) for each type of use you may want.
So the definitive answer would be, try em all!! Take time to read what each ROM contains or does not contain, as in the case of ROMs marked "Lite" or "No Thrillls". Make sure to read through the threads as well for any potential problem that a particular ROM may be having with a program or any bugs that may be found.
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also i would like it to have as little Non-stock software as possible.
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Only thing I would say to that is that you need to do the legwork and hunt down exactly what you are looking for. The forum search is an excellent (as well as the preferred way) of finding those "must have" programs for your T2. Also, check out some of the senior members signatures for links to file sharing sites, as they often host mirrors for popular programs as they become available. This is how I got my T2 to be EXACTLY the way that I wanted it to be.
So there you have it, the definitive answer. I do appologize if this sounds alot like **BEFORE YOU POST START HERE** FAQ, Wiki, Stickies & Tutorials - Suggestions Welcome! , but that was posted for a reason and should be adhered to as everyone here is donating their time and energy, so lets not waste it .

dobby156 said:
hi all
this is going to sound stupid to many of you, but please, give me the time.
i have had the kaiser for a while now and been a member of modaco. but today was the first time i flashed my T2 to 6.1 using H-SPL. (link from modaco, the one with the modaco splash screen). anywho after seeing who easy it was to flash [ thanks hard spl devs ] i wanted to see what other roms there are.
however after browsing this site i just get confused with lots of releses with similar names, like throttle launcer...
i just dont know which to choose.
anywho i was wondering whether some could point me in the direction of a good 6.1 ROM which resemble the HTC diamond interface as much as possible (preferablly actually 6.1, not 6 with a theme, as 6.1 feel's much faster to me) because the diamond interface is much slicker than my current. also i would like it to have as little Non-stock software as possible.
many thanks, sorry for the stupid questions, it's a new world to me.
sorry for any spelling mistakes, ie the one in the title, i cant change that now.
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Check this one out. ROMeOS 4.21
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411692
Very fast, and no bugs at all I've found yet

miri wm6.5 v.7.2 or davideuck wm.6.5 v.7

Hi
Two great rom both!
I am now on miri rom, but davideucks new rom looks great too.
what are users experince?

brodos123 said:
Hi
Two great rom both!
I am now on miri rom, but davideucks new rom looks great too.
what are users experince?
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Buy another HD and flash Davideuck... and... then You can answer by yourself.
Regards,
KCJ

brodos123 said:
Hi
Two great rom both!
I am now on miri rom, but davideucks new rom looks great too.
what are users experince?
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Does miri ROM include HTC Dialer or Topez Dialer? I hate WM Dialer

affraid of posting
KChauJen said:
Buy another HD and flash Davideuck... and... then You can answer by yourself.
Regards,
KCJ
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I am a regular user of this forum, witch is great!
But lately I when reading in the forum, I see a lot of complaining and ruud behavior when someone tries to post a question. Either people are told to search or they are on the wrong thread.
Why so ruud? noticed this is spesially senior members!!
why not try to help or point them in the right direction?
There are more replies on how"stupid" the question rather than just giving an answer or not reply at all
Just my thoughts!

sas90850 said:
Does miri ROM include HTC Dialer or Topez Dialer? I hate WM Dialer
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not sure!
I think it is the wm dialer (dont like it.) too much free space on the top.

I try both.both are fast and now I stay davideuck I like the HTC Dialer

brodos123 said:
I am a regular user of this forum, witch is great!
But lately I when reading in the forum, I see a lot of complaining and ruud behavior when someone tries to post a question. Either people are told to search or they are on the wrong thread.
Why so ruud? noticed this is spesially senior members!!
why not try to help or point them in the right direction?
There are more replies on how"stupid" the question rather than just giving an answer or not reply at all
Just my thoughts!
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The reason is, ppl never bother to read the directions and rules set out in the forum, this thread is really not a contribution and does not comply with the specified layouts set out in starting a new thread. Admitably this topic does have some bearing but still its not really necassary.
Yes, you should be afraid of posting its a good thing it stops or prevents every noob starting another useless topic or the same topic over and over again.
If you actually read you would see the exact same question asked over and over and over, I guess that fact that you dont understand is proof that you dont read or search.
This is how I see it and Im a noob!

brodos123 said:
Hi
Two great rom both!
I am now on miri rom, but davideucks new rom looks great too.
what are users experince?
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Hi,
Why Davideuck or Miri? Maybe you should have check ROMs coocked by Onkolog or PhamQuand. They are very good too and have similar bugs, eg. alarm doesn't work if HD is locked and sleeps, etc.
You should have try out each and make decision. Everyone has personal preferences.
Good luck bro

i'd like Karma rom.

i tried both in davideuck no touch flo but in miri there is both i thing in my opnion miri is better until now

Not working alarm from locked/sleeping state can be fixed with this tweak by enabling wakeup to full power

Try both and see witch one you like best.
dkjm said:
i tried both in davideuck no touch flo but in miri there is both i thing in my opnion miri is better until now
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In Davideuck you can have tf3d it depends wich version you chose...
I have used Miri 7.1 and now I use Davideuck V-7 with Manila. Both are great rom and it is up to you who you prefer. I always liked Davideuck so I use his rom now but thats only my choise.
If you dont like one of them flash the other one

shruff said:
The reason is, ppl never bother to read the directions and rules set out in the forum, this thread is really not a contribution and does not comply with the specified layouts set out in starting a new thread. Admitably this topic does have some bearing but still its not really necassary.
Yes, you should be afraid of posting its a good thing it stops or prevents every noob starting another useless topic or the same topic over and over again.
If you actually read you would see the exact same question asked over and over and over, I guess that fact that you dont understand is proof that you dont read or search.
This is how I see it and Im a noob!
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I see your point, but when I get a response to my first post to try both versions I think that is not what I asked.
I have tried a lot of roms and it takes a lot of time to test all out! It is not done in one day! to test it it takes at least 2 days.
A forum (like this) is to share knowlage and experinces between users. isnt it?

I tried davideuck but quite lag. now i will change back to miri one

I think
I use Miri Rom 21500 7.2.
I think , if I can say somthing about the differences between the Roms I had to test both first. And If I test both I know or not what I am going to use.
So it is the wrong question !!
The Question is " WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN ............ ROMs " ?
That´s what all the people whants to know without testing all ROM a cupple of Day´s without safty to register everything.
seeya
bye

brodos123 said:
I see your point, but when I get a response to my first post to try both versions I think that is not what I asked.
I have tried a lot of roms and it takes a lot of time to test all out! It is not done in one day! to test it it takes at least 2 days.
A forum (like this) is to share knowlage and experinces between users. isnt it?
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at least you can do it in the "general" forum not in the ROM Development forum.
you are transforming this forum in yr personal "give me an answer" forum. this is not a Q&A forum. with each answer you get you are pushing away from the first page really important stuff.
now after 13 posts what did u get? did u found somebody that used both ROMs and he can give a ready digested answer? did u really think that u can get a straight answer from such a (useless) thread? choosing a ROM is subjective. asking other's opinion instated of reading the relevant threads with user's opinion and user's reaction is pure laziness and total disregarding the forum rules.
all i (and many others) want is to be able to watch the ROM Development without being bothered by marathon chat threads that keep on growing without any benefit for the community.

KukurikU said:
at least you can do it in the "general" forum not in the ROM Development forum.
you are transforming this forum in yr personal "give me an answer" forum. this is not a Q&A forum. with each answer you get you are pushing away from the first page really important stuff.
now after 13 posts what did u get? did u found somebody that used both ROMs and he can give a ready digested answer? did u really think that u can get a straight answer from such a (useless) thread? choosing a ROM is subjective. asking other's opinion instated of reading the relevant threads with user's opinion and user's reaction is pure laziness and total disregarding the forum rules.
all i (and many others) want is to be able to watch the ROM Development without being bothered but marathon chat threads that keep on growing without any benefit for the community.
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ok. sorry!
But still I think people can be polite and respctful.

brodos123 said:
ok. sorry!
But still I think people can be polite and respctful.
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we all have high expectations about other ppl.
welcome to the club of the disappointed ones!

I am on onkolog's 6.5 and its pretty AWESOME. I was using miri's 7.1 before I flashed to onkolog's. It is very smooth and I dont have the DayLightSavingTime bug in Manila (going back by an hour) in his ROM. The only complaint I have in onkolog's is the Calculator which SUX, but so does every other 6.5 ROM.
EDIT: I have not tried miri's 7.2 yet, so cannot comment on it.

My dilemma is...
...I am unfortunately a perfectionist.
And both roms, Miri's and davideuck's as well, aren't perfect.
So the following is what I like from Miri's rom:
the "sandclock" that appears when WM works looks much better
the menu icon of "file explorer" looks better (fits to the otehr HQ icons)
to be continued....
and here comes my positive thoughts about davideuck's rom:
RSS HUB onboard
HTC calendar starts the week with Moday
calculator is much better (rotation, you know..)
icon bar at the upper screen is awesome! and not buggy like Miri's
grey theme is great looking with black of Manila!
the used HTC dialer is my favorite (I loost track of all the names, versions and so maybe s.o can tell me which which is...)
to be continued...
what I wish to be introduces (in any of both roms) is...
A weekly view in HTC calendar
FULL German Translation (it ist a dream! not more and not less)
link feeds with RSS HUB when opening a newfeed via link in opera ;-)
stringent use of manila submenus, hints, warnings etc.

Rom suggestion for SPB Mobile Shell user

Hello guys,
Anyone here on a similar search?
I have tried Dutty, Miri, NRG, Laurentis (did not install x2), all are good in some way, but really I have no use for TouchFlow3D, except I am not sure if when in SPBMS, whether some of the new finger friendly bits and pieces are WM6.5 or Manila, even though it is not running TF3D.
Please could someone suggest a rom that has some of the great new features, like WiFi tethering, finger friendly menus etc... but that is good for SPBMS 3.5
Tx
Mark.

Lets see:
Leo Laurentius
Miri
NRGZ28
Mikenif
Xannytech
kwbr
sparkienl
texture
onkolog
There's a few more but I sure hope it cleared things up for you

Wrong thread - wrong answer above.
the OP does not asks how many cooks there are. he wants others do do the job of using SPB (latest version we presume?) and reporting flaws.
I might be wrong
Thread will be moved anyway me think

ceevee369 said:
Wrong thread - wrong answer above.
Thread will be moved anyway me think
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Well thats the point! which you also seemed to have missed!

livegod said:
Hello guys,
Anyone here on a similar search?
I have tried Dutty, Miri, NRG, Laurentis (did not install x2), all are good in some way, but really I have no use for TouchFlow3D, except I am not sure if when in SPBMS, whether some of the new finger friendly bits and pieces are WM6.5 or Manila, even though it is not running TF3D.
Please could someone suggest a rom that has some of the great new features, like WiFi tethering, finger friendly menus etc... but that is good for SPBMS 3.5
Tx
Mark.
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It's Touchflo

I dont know about SPB MS but the ROM's with finger friendly menus seem to be anything in WM6.5 but more so in the ROM builds starting in 23xxx these builds are still a little unstable with 3rd party apps for obvious reasons therefore it may be some time before developers release apps that are compatible with WM6.5(.1?)
Totally wrong section for questions like this, nothing to do with ROM Development.

MOD EDIT
Threads already exist in Themes, Software & applications forum regarding SPB. Better to post your query within one of those.
This query is not related to rom development and therefore should not be posted in this forum. In future please try and abide by forum rules
Ta

Touch HD Development Now Split Android/Windows Mobile

Hi Everyone,
We've received some requests to split this forum into a ROM Development section (WM) and an Android ROM Development section, please let us know what you think by voting. Feel free to post any additional comments in this thread.
Thanks in advance!
Flar
Site admin

I've stickied this till poll is closed

Right now there doesn't seem to be a ton of Android threads, but I imagine that will increase as it is perfected. As the number of threads increase there will start to be more and more confusion.
Ways to alleviate the confusion is by separating the threads or by people standardizing their thread titles. As it is right now there's enough variation in thread titles to make it a little confusing to figure out what ROM is what. Although I have to admit that cooks are getting much better over time with this process thankfully.
If thread titles were standardized I don't think there would be a need for a separation of ROMs really, although it wouldn't hurt besides the pain to moderators that have to monitor and move threads.
[ROM or KITCHEN][Languages (WWE, etc)][ROM type (WM 6.1, WM 6.5, Android)][Path-optional (28014)][ROM name and version (Flashmore V2.2)][Special key points (Sense 2.5, Manila 2.1, etc.)][Date (29-Jan-2010)]
Just as an example, maybe order of things should be different such as the date being second or something. But the order should then be standardized (including format of Date for instance DD-MMM-YYYY to avoid confusing among countries that do MM-DD-YYYY instead) and all cooks should follow this without adding all sorts of other advertising and special symbols, etc. The title should tell users exactly what the ROM is and only that. The message body is where you can make things fancy and advertise other things.

sschrupp said:
Right now there doesn't seem to be a ton of Android threads, but I imagine that will increase as it is perfected. As the number of threads increase there will start to be more and more confusion.
Ways to alleviate the confusion is by separating the threads or by people standardizing their thread titles. As it is right now there's enough variation in thread titles to make it a little confusing to figure out what ROM is what. Although I have to admit that cooks are getting much better over time with this process thankfully.
If thread titles were standardized I don't think there would be a need for a separation of ROMs really, although it wouldn't hurt besides the pain to moderators that have to monitor and move threads.
[ROM or KITCHEN][Languages (WWE, etc)][ROM type (WM 6.1, WM 6.5, Android)][Path-optional (28014)][ROM name and version (Flashmore V2.2)][Special key points (Sense 2.5, Manila 2.1, etc.)][Date (29-Jan-2010)]
Just as an example, maybe order of things should be different such as the date being second or something. But the order should then be standardized (including format of Date for instance DD-MMM-YYYY to avoid confusing among countries that do MM-DD-YYYY instead) and all cooks should follow this without adding all sorts of other advertising and special symbols, etc. The title should tell users exactly what the ROM is and only that. The message body is where you can make things fancy and advertise other things.
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I much as I agree with your recommendations, most if not all have already been mentioned in first post of this thread. We just need all chefs/devs to follow it

Hi Flar,
I think admins should split the forums at least by WM6.X and Android sections, and create a new section for WM7 in the future easily.

I think a split is a great idea. It's way to busy to find what you need.
A split between 6.1, 6.5, 7 (LOL) and Android would really clean things up.

Waste of time...
You can split it and get it lovely and tidy and 48 hours later, folks will ruin it...
I can't stand the mess, but I learn to live with it... and I think most folks do.
You can post rules, explain everything in plain English, tattoo it on their heads, and still "can you help me with my iphone?" appears.
Admit defeat already! it's like a wife... surrender to it for an easy life

I voted yes, because i think it helps to keep things clear.
But i don't know if there are actually enough androids developers and users to keep it going.
So i would say split up, and see what happens. If it turns out to be a bad idea then change it back

would reccomend this if android get more useable - but doesn't seem to be far...
But for now i'd like to see a "rom release" section and one for "rom related questions" - so it just gets a bit more useable.
best would be in my oppinion:
Touch HD:
- WM ROM release
----> here every dev opens 2 threads for his ROM - 1 for "release,bugtracker,solutions" and another for "general questions,thanks,..."
- WM ROM questions
----> all general questions wich are currently here in ROM section (Radio,SPL,and the rest)
- ANRDIOD (perhaps also split later)
----> all android related stuff
would love to see this - would make if much more readable.
Especialy the 2 thread thing for ROMs would save much time in my opinion (if used right ...)
greetings

Logicalstep said:
I think a split is a great idea. It's way to busy to find what you need.
A split between 6.1, 6.5, 7 (LOL) and Android would really clean things up.
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Organization is key in any website. More categories will improve search times and should create better overall experience if done right. With the onset of Windows 7 coming which may have completely different set of instructions like Android, they certainly required there own place. But I don't believe 6.1, 6.5 should be separated as the stickies serve all these Roms the same.
Just my thoughts..

I think that we have to split in:
1. questions and solutions (WM and android)
2. ROM's from ROM builders

Ya I Agree too... we should have split WM and Android threads so that it is much organised and easy access

+1 for splitting.
Right now there are 4-5 threads about Android, which isn't much, but they're just going to increase as it is perfected and made into a flashable ROM.

My thoughts:
Personally I think the splitting itself is a good idea, it helps the users to track of the OS that they want to use or want to use.
But come to think of it, Android OS isn't much in-need to have its own sub-category. It cannot even stand on itself as ROM yet. It still works on WiMo as background.
I disagree with the suggestion to split into WiMo 6.1, 6.5, 6.5.x, 7 or whatever else are coming out. It's definitely unnecessary and the chefs should state the version on the title of the thread, and they're doing it alright. It's also to keep members from starting new threads at the wrong sections. If we split into different WiMo versions, the next demand we can expect is that to split in each section into the-good-old TF3D, Manila 2.1, Sense 2.1, Sense 2.5 etc.
Furthermore, I think the admins are doing great jobs in trying to keep things in good shape, especially Fallen Spartan; we can see him closing down unnecessary/solved threads everyday. They're not earning money from this and they have their own lives to deal with each day, I don't think we want to burden them more by having so many sub-categories to look after, no? It's like children, the more you have, the harder for you to look after.
So I think it's unnecessary to split now. In the future when Android is ready to stand on its own, we can consider back this issue, but now is absolute unnecessary.

I think the forum should be split up and sub-splits applied within the splits...eh ROMs, How to do stuff etc.....ROMs then subsplits into Android and Blackstone and further down ( sub - sub split!) Blackstone etc etc. Is subsplit a word?

I especially would like WM split into 6.1 and 6.5 forums

zyonuf79 said:
I especially would like WM split into 6.1 and 6.5 forums
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+1, it would be great!

pinx said:
+1, it would be great!
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i agree to it as well. there arent much threads related to Android at this point. organised(its a wishful thinking i kno)6.1 and 6.5 sub forums will b a gr8 change

In support
I am in support of spliting the forum.....as suggested by other, it will keep the forum organised.....

I think separate categories/sub categories are definitely needed as it stands most forums on this site are a complete and utter mess and really disorganized.
If you was to have a simple category under each mobile device for roms/os versions etc it would organize things allot better here is a quick example..
Blackstone-->ROMS----WM
------>6.1
------>6.5
----Android
-------xxxx
-------xxxx
Obviously that is just a quick example but the current way of just chucking everything in one thread just doesn't work and is a ball-ache trying sort though when specifically looking for a 6.5 or a 6.1 rom. It would be nice to browse a version specific forum.
Also if the admins are not keen on having more subcategories why not just enforce some kind of uniform tagging rule for the releases that way we could have all the WM in one category and they will be clearly and uniformly tagged because at the moment it is really random and hard to follow, If all releases where tagged in same way it would make searching for specific rom versions/builds etc much more easily.