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Ok, the first thing that caught my eye, was how sexy it was, I was so in love. Wanted it, got it. If that could only work on all the women I love at first sight.
Anyhow, after getting to know the Diamond I found small issues, but no one is perfect so I looked past them. Plus when I take my Diamond out, all eyes are on us. I upgraded her (thanks to Dutty), freed her (unlocked),and even tweaked her (double meaning to keep this theme going).
So why do I still wanna get rid of her, all my ex(s) were Sony Ericssons....and they were all so simple, but not as sexy. My Diamond is the total opposite from what I'm use to, but that' not the problem, the Diamond is getting to complex for my simple brain. There's only so many tweaks I can do to the thing, I have to just realize that maybe this relationship just isn't working out.
Can I get a witness?
Where did you get your charging cradle?
word up... from 3 sonys to diamond and i can't find enough tweaks to get it to work half as good as any of my old sonys
I think one has to have a love hate relationship with most gadgets....if its simple to use, its not customizable enough and if its customizable, you are never quite happy with its current state
Zoolake is totally right.. I customize mine all the time.. Atleast one ROM-update a week.. This ROM doesn't have what I'm looking for, that ROMs perfect, but doesn't have that.. This phone is just uber amazing, extremely satisfying, but somehow.. Yet somehow it's just missing it's simplicity..
I also moved up from an Ericsson.. Damn, that thing was good.. But she's way better, my Diamond.. but somehow.. I don't know.. You know what I'm talkin' about, right?
I'm glad I'm not alone here, thought it was me. Only question is where the hell do I go from here? Xperia? Are all Window 6.1 phones as allergic to simplicity?
Great post!
I've said the same thing about my Diamond since I got it over a month ago.. "Love/Hate relationship". I posted a rant about the Diamond on this forum and others after I got it, and I wanted to throw it away. I went back to my old trusty HTC Touch for a few weeks, but then returned to the Diamond after the New Year. Now I've gotten used to the Diamond and its little issues, and have learned to live with it.
The only problems I still have are -
Sometimes I push the wrong button accidentally when I want to press Left or Right direction ... but I get it right 95% of the time now
TFLO3D is slow and choppy when sliding through tabs (TFLO2D on my Touch was way smoother and faster).. but this is not a big deal
Battery drains like crazy, can't get through an entire day of moderate use. But can be solved by turning off 3G and using Edge instead; and also I'm receiving the official HTC extended battery soon.
Scroll feature (e.g. for zooming in Opera Mobile) doesn't work all the time.. On the same program it sometimes works, and sometimes it stops working.
Form factor (too tall) - Still trying to get used to it, especially for typing, because my original HTC Touch was perfect size!
The biggest pluses for me are:
VGA screen - great for viewing webpages and spreadsheets
Built-in GPS - wasn't working with iGuidance until I ran GpsGate first.. and also disabled Data (I later created a Mortscript that runs/closes GpsGate with iGuidance automatically for me now)
FM Radio!
I think after a while you will get used to it. The Diamond packs so many features into a tiny size, which is the great thing about it.
Ditto on all this stuff. You guys are not alone. I actually loved and hated my Diamond so much that I sold it and then bought another one about 3 weeks later because I missed it too much!!
I basically tolerate its shortcomings for all the stuff I love about it. Ideally, give me the Diamond's specs in the Touch's body and I'd be mega happy.
There's got to be another phone better, do any of the newer HTCs perform any better?
Tbh I felt like this as well from my old Elfin (with Dsixda's ROM ).
BUT, just flash udK's Beta 8 which is super smooth TF3D, battery life WITH 3G lasted me a day easily (approx. 18 hours) with 20% battery left.
If that isn't enough then flash the radio in my sig, ending with .08.
Everything is perfect. Now all I want is WM6.5, hehe.
Dutty's v3.6b is pretty good, speakerphone still sucks, for example is ROM: udK Syrius HD R0 Beta 8 better???? Let the drama begin.
surely this overcomplicated feature (and i agree with you) is down to owning a winmo, and not anything to do with the diamond.
Yes, the phones complicated, if you want it to be. Use it as a phone only (ie just touchflo) and its absoutely fine ! its a normal phone (apart from the standby/lock issue).
Its only when you tinker with windows and apps that suddenly it becomes complicated, but thats the nature of the best. TBH its WHY i bought a smartphone, but yes, i now find it a minefield of tweaks and apps. But, i love it !! i 've never used a phone so much for so long after i bought it. Normally, it'd just sit on my desk. This one i find myself picking it up at least once an hour to mess about with it.
For the last ten years i've just owned a phone. Now, i own something else.
dneknw said:
Dutty's v3.6b is pretty good, speakerphone still sucks, for example is ROM: udK Syrius HD R0 Beta 8 better???? Let the drama begin.
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Try it. I've tried around 15-20 ROMs and this leads by example. I think it's using the ROM base from Iolite, which seems better to me than even the latest 2.03 base, since the battery life with this is just amazing, while TF3D couldn't be smoother.
hey Dsi nice to see you in diamond forum i loved your rom for elf i still run it and its perfect thanks again for it, so one question can u post a short how-to to fix that gps isue wich moust of us have ? thanks a lot
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Hey i read dsixda's rant when he had posted it and being that i trust his comments i stayed away from the diamond until the very day my elfin got upset and fumbled out of my hand into a puddle, just as i was walkin into the rogers plus store to pay my bill. needed a phone so picked up the diamond...hated her for a bit but molded her into my own perfect device...i still dont think she's better than my elfin but she's a damn good rebound lol
So in the end......we ended up breaking up. No more Diamond....I have mixed emotions about it, but you can be damn sure my next baby is going to be hot as hell. Maybe the SE Xperia, or Asus P835. Really hope that all Window Mobile 6.1 devices are not as complex as my last.
i use 6 months before i decided to change from SE K810i to diamond. well, k810i served me good especially the cybershot as i'm quite picture snappy and take a lot of picture. not to mention all java games i've downloaded. heck, until now i havent try all games i have.
i've been using 2 pda before, iPaq rx1700 and after that dell axim x50v and i must say that bringing 2 gadget is quite unfriendly most of the time.
i'm sacrificing the camera for functionality when i went to diamond.
sometimes when i want to take picture, k810i is way much better. you just slide down the camera cover and then snap. when with diamond, you need to on, go to camera and the wait to load.... damn...
still missing my k810i though....
I think this is a big shame for such a big community to not have xperia panel working on HD. Almost a year passed and still there is no successful rom.
Nowadays we should use something like "[ROM] [July20] [Celestial SExperia Ultimate v3.2] [All panels working perfectly and smooth, very verf fast and stable!!!]. But we don't.
I think most people will glad to see something entirely new on their phone instead updating same thing. Likewise, it could be fun for the developers.
And i am ready to support.. Since i am not a coder, i can only donate.
Anyway.. What do you say guys??
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I think this is a big shame for such a big community to not have xperia panel working on HD. Almost a year passed and still there is no successful rom.
Nowadays we should use something like "[ROM] [July20] [Celestial SExperia Ultimate v3.2] [All panels working perfectly and smooth, very verf fast and stable!!!]. But we don't.
I think most people will glad to see something entirely new on their phone instead updating same thing. Likewise, it could be fun for the developers.
And i am ready to support.. Since i am not a coder, i can only donate.
Anyway.. What do you say guys??
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I agree with you celestial123!!
Come on guys you are all great developers.
some developers are already working on it but it wouldn't be easy.
As the X1 panel has many things hardcode into the programme. unlike HTC, they are from the same manufacturer and the compatibility is better (HTC wants to reuse code on most of its phone).
p.s. I know X1 is made by HTC.. but the software isn't.
my friend has a x1, he told me the panels ist good as toucflo, he uses a rom with tflo.. but i d like to test the panels....
it comes down to personal preferences. Manila is just fine for me, looking forward to a proper working M2.5.
itje started a project on that a while back, I have not seen any progress in quite a while now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465547
I think the Chefs are doing their job perfectly, testing out manila 2.5 for us, and giving us a taste of it. I think they should stay on the road they are travelling, I would prefer manila 2.5 over panels.
I really agree with OnlinePredator
I think X-panel can give us a new face to our HTC device
But for me, nothing more complete as a whole package than TF3D, if we look after the functionality.
I prefer TF3D over panel, even Titanium, cause it's all there!
But I'd like to test panel too
To be honest I think Panels on the HD is a waste of time, TF3D is better and is improving all the time. There are some cool little things with the panels like the fish and stuff, but it's all for show.
Panels working really nicely would be a nice little bonus to have a bit of a play with but I think most ROM developers are focused on providing a better and more usable experience for users than HTC provides, panels wouldn't aid this to be honest.
Looking forward we all gonna buy new devices in few months, chiefs included.
Panels or Android on Hd don't have sense. It's already hard to make Manila run the smoothest way...
I would be sooo happy to run these features ! (as I always wanted to ).
But it seems to be almost impossible.
And even if someone reaches it, most of us will be under Android.
So why loosing time on something we won't need ?
If you want my two cents, each chef has the right to do want they want to do. If it appears that the no chef is working on getting the panels onto the HD, it is most likely because of a number of reasons, mainly because they either haven't time or do not want the panels.
I too agree with OnlinePredator. I think the Chefs are doing a great job and I'm looking forward to a stable, smooth manila 2.5 with few bugs.
IMHO I prefer manila 2.5 over the panels and I believe a lot of chef's also have same feelings.
I've been working on getting the panels working for a while.
I used to have an X1, and can fairly convincingly say that the panels are a waste of time for most parts, so I've been playing with them, basically because I can, its been more of an academic exercise than anything..
Now you can quite happily get one or two of the basic panels working, there are even cabs out there that do it, but some of the others (the almost useful ones) such as the last media browser dont work, there are hardcoded calls to some X1 bits, bits that dont seem to work on the HD.
I've resorted to hexediting the dlls to get it working, but when I manage to get one bit sorted another one pops up and causes problems..
I was getting far too frustrated with it, and as others have said manila 2.5 is so much more interesting, that i havent done anything for a while on the panels.
I think one of the reasons we have so many good chefs here, is that HTC has provided us a very poor stock ROM and no aftersales support. We need cooked ROMs which are closed to what we are expecting for.
Panel is just an option.
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I've been working on getting the panels working for a while.
I used to have an X1, and can fairly convincingly say that the panels are a waste of time for most parts, so I've been playing with them, basically because I can, its been more of an academic exercise than anything..
Now you can quite happily get one or two of the basic panels working, there are even cabs out there that do it, but some of the others (the almost useful ones) such as the last media browser dont work, there are hardcoded calls to some X1 bits, bits that dont seem to work on the HD.
I've resorted to hexediting the dlls to get it working, but when I manage to get one bit sorted another one pops up and causes problems..
I was getting far too frustrated with it, and as others have said manila 2.5 is so much more interesting, that i havent done anything for a while on the panels.
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Thanks for update on this bro
I just got my Touch Pro 2 yesterday and I am starting to prepare my kitchen for it. Currently I modify ROMs for the Touch Pro. My ROM thread can be found here. I am thinking of going with the same basic concept. Clean out any programs that are not required to free up as much RAM as possible, tweak the hell out of it and leave it pretty much bare bones so it can be customized to your liking.
Input from users would be great!
Thanks.
Had a Touch Pro, Used your ROMS. Same again = win
Totally agree with and like that "tweak the hell out of it and leave it pretty much bare bones so it can be customized to your liking"
Glad to see your not messing around or wasting any time with this. Heck, on the second day with my new Rhoduim, I still couldn't set it down. Looking forward to your work.
Hi all,
I know we've got some great cooks here, and so I'm hoping one of them will help! I have been playing with ROMs since I got my Tilt2 (ATT) and I have been pretty happy with some of them, yet still not quite completely satisfied. Some come close to what I want, but all seem somewhat finicky with my ATT phone (my wife has refused to let me play with her Verizon Touch Pro 2, something about me breaking it
For me, the holy grail of ROMs for this phone would be:
A fast, Manila 2.5+, Windows 6.5 (or 6.5.3, if its rock solid) ROM with no frills or cooked in software.
A simple user interface, something normal but snazzy looking. If it could be like the original Verizon one that'd be awesome, if not the normal HTC would be fine.
Basically, I want a stripped down speedy version of the normal HTC look, but haven't been able to find it. I MIGHT be able to learn how to cook my own, but cannot currently spare the time as I'm in grad school.
If anyone could help, that would be AWESOME!
if u dontmind trying... try DA_G rom... its built for AT&T so your keyboard will work just fine its 28206 built and lite... alot of rom and ram space... no manila 2.5 so i was using SPB mobile Shell Pro...
If you are sick and tired of slow Sense 2.5 ROM's like I am, I have a solution for ya.
Get a ROM with manila 2016 and no CHT.
Try seeing how that works out. You might miss the functions of CHT but the speed is just incomparable.
I suggest you start with Standard 'Energy' or 'Reference' here:
http://www.easy-share.com/f/1326057875/Rhodium GSM Reference
(for more info click here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773)
If you are feeling adventurous, install HTC messaging here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700495
I am currently using that and speed incredible!
If you are hating the taskbar icons, click here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=639842
To all the chefs, please start cooking more ROM's w/o CHT and make the quicklinks smaller (from 3 to 4).
To everyone else, try it and report back. The speed of Sense 2016 is incredible!
Edit: I released a ROM based on this post
Here it is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7384359
Jackos Oldschool TF3D ROM is even better. If you can live without Sense, definitely give it a whirl. RAM usage almost NEVER fall under 100mb, unless you really push it, and even still it performs like a beast.
Only thing is, being WM6.1, there isn't much support for it. Everyone mainly supports WM6.5, unless I am not looking hard enough.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618063
Give it a spin.
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Jackos Oldschool TF3D ROM is even better. If you can live without Sense, definitely give it a whirl. RAM usage almost NEVER fall under 100mb, unless you really push it, and even still it performs like a beast.
Only thing is, being WM6.1, there isn't much support for it. Everyone mainly supports WM6.5, unless I am not looking hard enough.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618063
Give it a spin.
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I can't give up Sense 2.5 tho
W/o CHT it flies. Performance of manila 2016 is comparable to TF3D even with HTC Messaging on.
I might even start cooking my own ROM since there is no chefs focusing on speed on Sense 2.5
Funny i did the same thing. I'm so over CHT because it causes so many bugs. Our phones are just too slow for it now.
I would also like to add. Stop using the WM 6.5 Lockscreen. It causes memory leaks and takes up too much resources. I suggest using a alternative. ATM i been trying out touchlockpro since its super light and works good for what i need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444215
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Funny i did the same thing. I'm so over CHT because it causes so many bugs. Our phones are just too slow for it now.
I would also like to add. Stop using the WM 6.5 Lockscreen. It causes memory leaks and takes up too much resources. I suggest using a alternative. ATM i been trying out touchlockpro since its super light and works good for what i need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444215
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Everyone is crazy about CHT but what is really crazy about it is the resources it uses.
Im using Energy 'Reference' with:
HTC Messaging 2015
S2U2
604MHZ overclock (set at startup and when S2U2 unlocks)
and so far so good!
Well, two thing I will miss :
- Dual analog flip clock
- HQ wallpaper.
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Well, two thing I will miss :
- Dual analog flip clock
- HQ wallpaper.
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I think you can add that w/o CHT
Some mods for Sense 2.5
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=101648
For some clocks
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=105069
I think that the performance increase is well worth being without HQ Wallpapers or Dual analog flip clock either way.
Yeah I recently switch to this ROM. It's the best I've ever used. It still has a high RAM use but you won't notice that unless you love multitasking.
The speed that messages, music player, webpages, apps, contact, ect... launch is amazing. The music player doesn't forget the list of albums (I've got over 12Gig of music so this is important)...
I've tried Core Cell Pro (Which is my second favourite ROM). It's soooo pretty but some usability issues and it's nowhere near as fast Energy Reference.
I've tried a couple of JackOS ROMS, The RAM management is unbelievable in his ROMS. Although it's a bit jerky and slow I find the CPU gets hammered by these ROMS.
I used to be an ENERGY Cookie junky. But the dang thing was unusable, maybe if the TPC had twice the processing power and RAM it would be great... (sonething like the prototype going 'round. the HTC Desire with a slideout keyboard)
just my 2 cents....
the only problem with the energy Reference is that the B&N ereader tab is missing and can't be loaded (well from my limited testing).... still I use Freda so who cares?
What about this simplicity ROM...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734399
Any better than the Energy Reference?
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What about this simplicity ROM...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734399
Any better than the Energy Reference?
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I've tried it. While it IS the fastest S2.5 rom WITH CHT I've tried... its still S25 w/ CHT lol. Jackos Oldschool ROM kinda set the bar for me when it comes to speed and available ROM, and absolutely nothing has been comparable thus far, imo.
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Everyone is crazy about CHT but what is really crazy about it is the resources it uses.
Im using Energy 'Reference' with:
HTC Messaging 2015
S2U2
604MHZ overclock (set at startup and when S2U2 unlocks)
and so far so good!
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how did you overclock?
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how did you overclock?
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Click on the link in my signature.
From my experience, Jacko's is my 2nd favorite ROM while Cosmik Debris is hands down the fastest, and most flawless ROM (no one complains about it... ever.... lol) and it's stripped from sense but you can install sense 2.1 or 2.5 via a cab file (I use sense 2.1 because of the speed) so if you want a fast ROM get Cosmik Debris or Jacko's ;p.
DJGonzo said:
I think you can add that w/o CHT
Some mods for Sense 2.5
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=101648
For some clocks
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=105069
I think that the performance increase is well worth being without HQ Wallpapers or Dual analog flip clock either way.
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Thanks for the link, but all I can find are clock arrays for sense 2.5.19xx. Are those compatible with 2016?
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how did you overclock?
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Here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725290
I run my rhodium at 787 Mhz all time.
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Here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725290
I run my rhodium at 787 Mhz all time.
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Wow, how the battery goes?
Well, i've tested a lot of ROMs, so far i can say:
* Energy ROMs are very "nice" but too slow for me and has a very high RAM use.
* Jackos goes ok, i tried 3 of them, but several times calls goes to voicemail. And despite of his low RAM consuption, everything runs slow.
* Deepshining its ok, but too much loaded IMHO...
* I've tried some pair more like "kalimeo" but i dont remember his performance.
Now im using the WXC iluminati series ROM 21911, and i can say that is almost perfect.
Use sense 2.5 (can't remember wich version) and programs doesn't fly, but runs at a very very reasonable speed, enough for me, that i use my phone for work during all day.
The RAM after boot is about 56% and reach the 60% once you run and close some programs.
GPS locks in about 15-20 seconds after a boot. (i've seen faster ROMs, but al least locks)
Stable, fast, clean, and usefull.
I'd suggest to people to try out the new "simplicity" ROM. One of the fastest 2.5 w/ CHT ROMs that I've ever used! Still in it's earlier stages, but it's minus all the bloatware that seems to slow down most other ROMs!
anshkhanna said:
What about this simplicity ROM...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734399
Any better than the Energy Reference?
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nackas said:
I'd suggest to people to try out the new "simplicity" ROM. One of the fastest 2.5 w/ CHT ROMs that I've ever used! Still in it's earlier stages, but it's minus all the bloatware that seems to slow down most other ROMs!
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I tired it before Energy "Reference' and its not that fast. I didn't like it because it was too 'simple' and CHT made it too slow. I should make a video of how fast my phone is right now.
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I should make a video of how fast my phone is right now.
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Can you youtube one for us?
DJGonzo said:
I tired it before Energy "Reference' and its not that fast. I didn't like it because it was too 'simple' and CHT made it too slow. I should make a video of how fast my phone is right now.
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Hmmm I downloaded Energy Reference, but decided to try simplicity first...
Might flash Reference tomorrow and see how it goes. Cheers
The unfortunate truth is that CHT is just toomuch for our poor Rhodiums . Till today the fastest/smoothest ROM I've used was JackOS oldschool. I just felt like I was cheating myself by running old software (WM 6.1 and Sense 2.1) though, I'm weird like that
It's just so difficult to give up the functionality of Cookies Home Tab for speed. I guess it's a trade that the user has to decide on.
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The unfortunate truth is that CHT is just toomuch for our poor Rhodiums . Till today the fastest/smoothest ROM I've used was JackOS oldschool. I just felt like I was cheating myself by running old software (WM 6.1 and Sense 2.1) though, I'm weird like that
It's just so difficult to give up the functionality of Cookies Home Tab for speed. I guess it's a trade that the user has to decide on.
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Its so slow after a while its just plain annoying. I rather not have some dumb gadget functionality and have my phone actually RESPOND, not make people wait cuz my phone takes forever to get to the home screen.
Plus a lot of CHT mods you can get them as standalones