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Hi
I have tried many different roms and are currently at dutty 2.6.
How far has wm6.5 rom come?
I wish to start a thread where we discuss what is best of 6.1 or 6.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=500523
you guys rock
The way you take no prisoners with people who might not have time to trawl through a couple of thousand posts before asking a genuine question. You guys really are as hard as nails... no scratch that, maybe youre inadequate teenagers struggling to find a meaning to life beyond a slightly disappointing smartphone?
Hi there,
Don't judge everyone by some people's attitude on here...
It is a tough question though, but it would be good to hear peoples views on whether they prefer wm 6.1 or wm 6.5 - and why
I'm just changing from Miri's 6.5 v 5.2 rom back to Dutty's 6.1 v2.6 EXTREME, purely for the simple fact that I love the customisation that Dutty has done to Manilla and the integration to facebook/contacts seems better on Dutty's rom than Miri's.
Don't get me wrong, both roms are constantly being developed and both roms have their advantages, but for me, Dutty's 6.1 v2.6 hits it (and 2.7 will be better!!!)
I'm sure there are more features to 6.5 and it is supposed to be better screen operations for finger rather than pen, but the only thing I really noticed is the new start menu, which is good, but not very customisable.
Been round 2-3 times with these 2 roms, but think I always end up going back to Dutty's.
Give them both a try though as it is each persons perspective on what they prefer from their HD.
I am not being hard and I don't mind helping, just look at some of my posts, but the problem is every couple of days someone asks: Is this rom better for me? Is X rom faster than Y rom? Can you recommend a rom for me?
Just do a search in this rom forum to see how many have been asking the same thing OVER and OVER, or better yet just look at the last few pages!!
The thing is we are all here for the same reason, we all want the fastest, greatest etc, but it is all subjective. The rom that is perfect for me is maybe not even close to good for you....
As for being a teenager, lol, I wish
tru and i feel all of u but the question is which rom do u prefer .... i havnt tried 6.5 but i would like to read reviews on the differences....and no opinons on wat u like for urself who cares wat u want this post is basic info on the differences between 6.1 and 6.5.
its funny cause u sr and jr members are here to help us newbies out and u dont... i had to teach myself how to mode my hd and how to change the roms now im teaching myself on how to mod and create my own rom.... i do wana thank u guys for creating these roms but u guys are here to help not talk slick but please everyone google ur questions first before just postin anywhere... but i feel this is a descent thread
i havent tried 6.5 and im not going to
when 6.5 is released properly then the good version will be properly put on the hd
until then its 6.1
My goodness, lets everyone just start a new thread for no other reason than laziness to read and experiment, dont encourage this kind topics as it sets a bad example!
seams to me that "IT" guys have a chip on there shoulder, all we are looking for is a bit help. We are not all computer experts. We all want the same thing though. The best and fastest rom. It does not matter what is good for me is not good for you. We are simply asking a question. And you are the guys to answer the questions. Yes you could do a search and get about 10,000 answers. Do you have time to go thru all them for the one you are looking for. COME ON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Once again this is heading down the path of another useless thread as everyone is talking off topic again.
This is why MOD's delete threads like this as they just go round in circles with people complaining etc etc etc.
If you want this thread to remain open, start talking about the topic again, otherwise thread will close very soon. I'm actually surprised its still open.
Anyway, ON TOPIC, all 6.5 is a facelift to 6.1 with no real great improvement.
Thats my 2 cents!!
So true am new to all of this, I've been trying to put the 6.5 rom on htc hd and finding help is not easy.
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but it is all subjective.
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I don't understand why everyone decline the question. In my understanding the question just ask about the advantages of the 6.5 in comparison to 6.1 ROMs here.
May be this question question the high-number-must-better attidude of many of us but for me this question is adequate and reasonable. No reason to harm somebody.
brodos123 said:
I wish to start a thread where we discuss what is best of 6.1 or 6.5
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Maybe this helps: ll you need to know about Windows Mobile 6.5
Relating to this article:
1. Windows Mobile becomes Windows Phone
Surely no reason for our choice.
2. All new menus
6.1: Manula, manila menus, new start menu etc. from HTC
6.5: honeycomb today screen, new menus etc.
Both solutions are more finger friendly -> Its you choice.
3. Flick gestures
Like HTC with manila and some other options on 6.1, microsoft try the same with 6.5. -> Its you choice.
4. Better browser
Most 6.1 ROMs here use Opera and 6.5 the new internet explorer. -> Its you choice.
7. Better looking lock screen
There are many 3th party applications which allow this also on 6.1 ROMs. -> Its you choice.
8. Improved e-mail and messaging
I didn't check this with current 6.5 ROMs but it seems to be, that HTC (on old 6.1 ROMs) made the same.
So, after all this points, for me there is no big advantage between the new 6.5 ROM and the old 6.1 ROMs with HTC applications like manila.
It's only your choice, if you prefer manila or honeycombs, the solutions from HTC or Microsoft.
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7. Better looking lock screen
There are many 3th party applications which allow this also on 6.1 ROMs. -> Its you choice.
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For me it was the lock screen in WM6.5 that sold it to me. I used to use S2U2 but found it a little bit buggy and would sometimes crap-out when using flipit/gyrator etc etc. The default WM6.1 lock does a job but it's exactly pretty looking.
But the WM 6.5 lock? 'Tis glorious! I'm loving being able to jump straight to different notifications and it just looks so good as well.
Other aspects of WM6.5
I was using Dutty's v2.6 (and had been using Dutty's ROMs since the first Xtreme Test came out) and couldn't recommend it highly enough; it really is a fantastic ROM. I am missing a lot of the nice little features the the Rhodium Manila brings in.
I'm currently using Miri's v6.1 Premium (and thinking about upgrading to the new v7.0) with TF3D running on top of it. I ran with the Titanium interface for a bit but Manila if definitely better for me and the way I use my phone.
But part of me thinks I might just go back to Dutty's v2.6. As I mentioned above, there a just so many lovely little features in the Rhodium ROMs cooked by Dutty that I'm missing. No sleight on Miri's work you understand; there are many bugs reported when trying to integrate Rhodium with WM6.5 so I think the final advice has to be that if you want all the niceness of the Rhodium ROMs (and believe me, they are nice!) you need to run WM6.1 underneath.
I guess we'll just have to wait for the Diamond2/Touch Pro2 to get their WM6.5 upgrades in the Summer to see how Manila3 works alongside WM6.5.
<Just my views for over the past few days>
dom_mitchell1 said:
For me it was the lock screen in WM6.5 that sold it to me. I used to use S2U2 but found it a little bit buggy and would sometimes crap-out when using flipit/gyrator etc etc. The default WM6.1 lock does a job but it's exactly pretty looking.
But the WM 6.5 lock? 'Tis glorious! I'm loving being able to jump straight to different notifications and it just looks so good as well.
Other aspects of WM6.5
I was using Dutty's v2.6 (and had been using Dutty's ROMs since the first Xtreme Test came out) and couldn't recommend it highly enough; it really is a fantastic ROM. I am missing a lot of the nice little features the the Rhodium Manila brings in.
I'm currently using Miri's v6.1 Premium (and thinking about upgrading to the new v7.0) with TF3D running on top of it. I ran with the Titanium interface for a bit but Manila if definitely better for me and the way I use my phone.
But part of me thinks I might just go back to Dutty's v2.6. As I mentioned above, there a just so many lovely little features in the Rhodium ROMs cooked by Dutty that I'm missing. No sleight on Miri's work you understand; there are many bugs reported when trying to integrate Rhodium with WM6.5 so I think the final advice has to be that if you want all the niceness of the Rhodium ROMs (and believe me, they are nice!) you need to run WM6.1 underneath.
I guess we'll just have to wait for the Diamond2/Touch Pro2 to get their WM6.5 upgrades in the Summer to see how Manila3 works alongside WM6.5.
<Just my views for over the past few days>
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Dutty is finalizing his latest rom v2.7 RC (due out fri) which is WM6.1, and then he is straight into working on WM6.5 roms, so maybe its worth waiting to see how these turn out!!
Fallen Spartan said:
Dutty is finalizing his latest rom v2.7 RC (due out fri) which is WM6.1, and then he is straight into working on WM6.5 roms, so maybe its worth waiting to see how these turn out!!
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That is exactly what I wanted to hear! Magic!
I used Duttys 2.4 ROM earlier, loved it.
I installed Davideucks wm6.5 rom yesterday, I love the speed of the Titanium menu, feels really smooth, so does the start-menu and mail inbox.
But like dom_mitchell1 i miss some small stuff from manila/duttys ROM.
Things I dont like about WM 6.5 is that I dont think we cant customzie the main Titanium menue, yet? For instance I would like it to launch Opera instead of IE.
I liked the new Manila calendar better.
Today screen only shows one appointment. I dont know why they dont use all that empty space they left in the lock-screen, its perfect for showing multiple appointments.
Moving icons the way you want them in the new sart-menu is a hassle.
Hearing that Dutty is moving to 6.5 is really great.
I bet he will bring great stuff to it.
OFFTOPIC: IMO, the biggest factor for chosing either wm6.1 or wm6.5 is personal choice, based on several factors: functionality, looks, speed, customization, compatibility. Thats why it is really difficult to chose the perfect ROM for everybody. This debate between newer members asking this sort of questions and older members becoming sick and tired of answering them is old and it will last forever, I guess. No matter how many times you say to a new member: go read wiki, etc, there will ALWAYS be smb. new coming and asking the same question tomorrow. I, personally, prefer to help instead of suggesting: go read, but sometimes I am way too lazy to present a proper answer, hence I just ignore the question. I believe this should be the solution to this, but everybody treats it differently.
ONTOPIC: I have tried 20+ ROMs for HD, most of them wm6.1, but now i'm on Davide wm6.5 rom and i dont wanna go back. why?
at the beginning its the looks. I guess i just grew tired of the dark, black HTC customization. Also, manila was not suitable for me, i didnt use 70% of the features, i guess: didnt use favourite people tab (its easier to dial directly from phone app.), didnt use financial info tab (not interested), didnt use internet tab (i can easily just open Opera from programs) etc.
Wm6.5 is finally moving at an acceptable speed, the Start menu looks great (although it lacks customization mostly), and from the home screen i can listen to music, see photos, see the wheather (by using titanium weather 2.2) and I can use some HD-quality pictures as background. Also, email, sms lists look neater, more classy. the softkey menus are bigger, more finger-friendly. These are reasons enough for me to use wm6.5 and not come back to 6.1. Not to mention being a smart-ass among my friends with HTC HD and stock ROM.
So if you go rather towards new, imperfect technically-wise ROMs, I advice you to go to 6.5. It is fully utilisable. I actually used the previous Davide ROM for a week!!, which is quite a lot of time in my recent days. If you prefer much functionality and perfect, 100% reliable device, go for wm6.1 roms..
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Anyway, ON TOPIC, all 6.5 is a facelift to 6.1 with no real great improvement.
Thats my 2 cents!!
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Yes, like 6.1 was a facelift to 6.0, and 6.0 to 5.0. So what? The latest beta versions of 6.5 are clearly faster than 6.1 and you do not need TF anymore, which by itself slows down WM.
fair question. my advice is to sprite backup ur data. try out each new 6.5 rom cook then, if u don't like it, go back to ur previous rom & do #1 spritr restore.
personally, I found early 6.5 roms really slow & unresponsive so I too abandoned the concept for extreme 2.6.
I have decided to wait til it's officially released. I don't think it's anywhere near ready. oh, and it didn't recognize my sdd card.
the big improvements for me were the big X in top right corner (close button) and the opera like IE browser.
I'm a new Xperia user. I have it for 3 days now and basically what i've been doing these 3 days was studying this awesome xda-developers forum and learning everything about flashing, roms, etc..
I've been determined to upgrade my default WM6.1 to WM6.5. After first day of reading this forum i knew it's not gonna be simple, but stubborn as i am, i managed to get tha hang of it and did everything to flash my X1 with cooked rom. But then came the real dilemma: which rom should i use?? I've been looking for some forum topics to help me decide, but i found out that the only right way to do this is check every ROM individually, read about it first and if it looked good (feedback from users, collection of included apps, gadgets, etc), flash it to my X1.
By now i've flashed 6 ROMS and to be honest, i didn't like not even one of them. And this got me thinking: why would i need to upgrade to 6.5? Neither of rom worked faster than my default 6.1, all of them have this 'unfit' feeling (like when you see it you know it wasn't made for your phone) and all of them are buggy (some more, some less)..
So i'm asking YOU, the happy user for whichever WM6.5 rom:
- Why did you upgrade WM61? What's so much better with WM65?
- Is WM65 really so much better than 61? What are the bigges advantages?
- Which ROM are you using? And which cooked ROM(s) are your favorite?
I know this has probably already been ansvered, but is there any information about official WM65 upgrade for Xperia?
Lastly let me say this post is NOT a criticism of 'cookers' or this forum in general. I would just like to hear some of your opinions to decide which OS i want on my phone.. i really can't decide at the moment, so.. thank you in advance.
greets..
Well there is a bias toward the wm6.5 roms, just because its the latest and and more finger friendly. This is after all xda DEVELOPERS site, so its not meant to be 100%, but from my flashing's its pretty darn close... GO Chefs!!!
But I as well wouldn't mind seeing some wm6.1 roms based on R3 with the latest apps and extras, but I see few to none like this.
But like the saying goes beggars cant be choosers. So i take what these very generous chefs cook up
I'd use Valkyrie Xperio 3.9 + SPB Mobile Shell, or if you want Manila use Valkyrie Leo.
If you don't like those, then use a 6.1 rom like TouchX or Jack's v3.
It takes less time to try them than to get a bunch of people's feedback and then try them anyways.
Hi! Welcome to the forum!
I must admit I had a similar dilemma when I first flashed my X1. I find I keep going back to Smaberg's Touch X 10.1. It's a 6.1 ROM with manila (TouchFlo) 2.1 and it is fast, smooth, stable and fully functional. There is a new version with weather on the home tab (10.7), but there are still a few small issues which need to be ironed out before it is as stable and usable as 10.1.
For testing out 6.5 I love the Valkyrie ROMs by Agent_47. They are usually very well set up (with a good selection of apps and performance tweaks) and bugs are found and fixed quickly. My favourites are the Topaz/Rhodium versions since there is almost as much eye candy as the Leo roms, but less bugs / missing functionality (landscape works in manila, for instance) and they usually run a bit faster. If you want to try just a basic 6.5 rom without TouchFlo, I recommend Experio. You can install SPB mobile shell on it, too. If you want to go the full eye candy route, the Leo ROMs are nice and Rotastrain's ROM is worth trying.
The advantage of 6.5 is that it is more finger-friendly than 6.1 and there are a few usability improvements. One thing I personally don't like, though, is the volume control with the latest 6.5 builds. So far the cookers haven't been able to work around it. Also, it runs slower and since most builds are still beta there are bugs, but they are getting better.
There are a few 6.1 ROMs out now with Leo manila (touchflo 2.5) but there seem to be a lot of dependencies and it's not easy to get them to play nicely together. They give a good blend of speed and eye candy, but I find the clunkiness of the underlying 6.1 clashes with the looks of touchflo 2.5.
Hope I haven't made things more complicated! Have fun flashing and enjoy your X1!
-Oobly
This thread is for people like me, who don't know what ROM to choose from a list of many ROMs from many great chefs.
I am keeping my poll options empty for the time being as I have only played with a few ROMs without any guidance. I will begin to populate them as I start to see a few specific ROMs appearing consistantly.
I would like to ask the community of xda-developers to come by and help populate this thread with simple comments
and/or recommendations on what ROM(s if you have multiple devices) you use on your Rhodium/Touch Pro 2/Tilt 2 device.
Also, please also add what kind of user your are, or how/why you use your phone with 'said' ROM.
Additionally beneficial would be letting users know what ROM you recently used prior to your recommendation and the offsets you experience in general.
ie. ROM A is the one I recommend. However, ROM B does a few things a bit better, although ROM A is the one I would recommend to people who like smooth, quick eyecandy filled ROMs.
I also ask for intelligent, constructive critique on what you think about the ROM that you are commenting upon.
No one needs to know about what piece of profanity you would like to tack on 'user A' for saying '10101' about 'ROM B' or vice-versa.
This is meant to be a resource for new users to xda-developers, like I was, and to new owners of the HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium, Windows Mobile phone.
Candidly, I would like to have the moderator's support in keeping this a clean thread to have an easier (and more pleasant) navigation throughout the thread.
I would like to start off with creating a list of ROMs organized by chef name and OS/TouchFlo 3D version.
Underneath each ROM and their links (I will either find the ROM myself, or if you can be so helpful enough to link it onto your post
within this thread), I will be adding the pros and cons that are mentioned here, and that I have found as well.
To let you know a bit about my bias, I am looking for the following items;
-Speed
--Not only operating speed, going from interface to interface, but also how it handles multitasking.
--I usually do these three together; GPS, music, web browsing/text messaging
-User Friendliness
--From first stepping into the ROM, to using it for a couple of days and seeing it's inevitable and understandable flaws and offsets.
--Customizing settings on the ROM, and the ease to have certain things.
-Miscellaneous
--Other things such as the way the ROM will handle things such as the
unsightly error of TouchFlo 3D 2.5 and it's lack of Landscape viewing ability.
--These items will account for my general accountability on the topic of
"Would I (highly) recommend to my friend, who may be the same as, or a completely different user than, me."
My history with phones;
I have first used Motorola phones, starting with the t220 (apparently one of the first camera phones) moving to the RAZR V6 MAXX
(quite a glam, nice looking phone with great features, but poor connectivity issues with network and bluetooth) and a few years ago
Sony Ericsson phones such as the W810, K850 and the Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1a.
Most recently;
I have late last year, used a BlackBerry BOLD 9000, and in the past 3 months, trialed the Sony Ericsson XPERIA.
Without much ROM customization, the stock ROM was fun to play with, but lacked the easy access and user interface speed that
I have become accustomed to with the BlackBerry BOLD 9000. However, in seeing the Touch Pro 2 and purchasing it, I can now fully indulge in customizing
it with ROMs to fit my needs, though I am still painfully without hardware keys to have quick access to my browser, music or GPS.
However, I suppose the full 5 row keyboard makes up for the lack of hardware buttons elsewhere on the body.
Currently, I am using my Touch Pro 2, mainly as a resource device. What do I mean by this? I am using it with a SIM Card that only has data services.
I have installed programs such as Japanese dictionaries, phrase banks and linguistic aids to help in my study of the Japanese language.
I also use this for school (I am currently in grade 11, high school) using this device as my quick access to the internet (even though I have my blackberry).
I suppose having new devices is an obsession for me, as with a few others on here.
I'm looking for ROMs that will allow me quick and easy access to the programs that I frequent the most such as my Japanese programs, GPS,
music, web browser, notes, M-Soft Word and also allow me to freely multitask with them.
I know that this is mainly hardware dependent, but I have learned that some ROMs take up less RAM space, as to free up some more coasting speed for programs to run on.
Posting Format
Please include the following;
Recommended ROM?
ROM used before recommended ROM?
Your network provider, phone (is it from/branded T-Mobile US, AT&T, Telstra, Sprint, TELUS)?
How/What do you use your phone? (Business, personal, school // As your main device, just as a (conference) phone, just as a mini internet tablet, etc...)
The pros & cons you noticed coming onto this ROM?
Who you think would benefit from using this ROM?
ADDITIONALLY;
I want to invite Chefs to either PM me, or post what (and who) they desire their ROM to be (for),
so that TP2/Rhodium users/owners can have a one-stop place to take a look at which ROM has what to offer (and to whom).
I will be adding the Chef's words beneath the ROM(s) they wish to comment upon.
The following post will before the ROM listings.
ROM Listings!
Chef NRGZ28
He builds his ROMs with four main goals.
* Eye candy
* Speed !!!
* Smoothness, consistency and good aesthetics
* Stability through private beta testing before public release
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★ EnergyROM "Leo" (Build 23016) [Updated Oct 7]
Runs Windows Mobile 6.5 WWE & TouchFlo 3D/Manila 2.5
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Comments;
-Stable
-Fast
-Good Looking
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Great for;
★ EnergyROM "Photon, formerly GENESIS" (BUILD?) [Updated Oct 7]
Runs Windows Mobile 6.5 WWE & TouchFlo 3D/Manila 2.1
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Comments;
-Bug-Free
-Great aesthetics
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Great for;
Chef Monx
"ONLY THE BEST FOR ALL XDA-DEV MEMBERS"
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ROMeOS³ v1.20 (Build 23016)
Runs Windows Mobile 6.5 WWE & TouchFlo 3D/Manila 2.5 + HTC SENSE (beta)
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Comments;
-Fun and easy to customize to personal tastes
-Works great "out of the box"
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Great for;
Chef b16b
AthineOS v2.0 OEM Style (Build 21054)
Runs Windows Mobile 6.1 & TouchFlo 3D/Manila 2.1
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Comments;
-Works great "out of the box"
-Very stock/OEM like ROM without all the carrier's unneccessary confectionery
-Easy to use, being that it is a simple ROM
-Quick and fast
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Great for;
-Those who are looking to keep their stock ROM without carrier branding or excessive programs
-Great for business users to retain that 'corporate' look
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im so glad you have this up. i also have a hard time choosing.
pretty useless comment lol
You might be wasting your time since a mod most likely will close this thread...
How come?
If I'm making a bit too bias (on what I'm looking for) then I won't include my own opinion. That's fine.
But I want to have something like what the Kovsky/Sony Ericsson XPERIA forum has.
A ROM index, but enhanced with things such as recommendations, and owner/users & chef comments.
SleepiTyme said:
How come?
If I'm making a bit too bias (on what I'm looking for) then I won't include my own opinion. That's fine.
But I want to have something like what the Kovsky/Sony Ericsson XPERIA forum has.
A ROM index, but enhanced with things such as recommendations, and owner/users & chef comments.
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I am not sure why, the last few times someone asked which ROM was best the mods closed the thread. They claim it cuases flame wars and such.
Personally, I dont mind, like the idea and I was just giving you a heads up. Maybe you should ask a mod before your proceed further.
I would say this poll would avoid other threads like "what do you think is the best rom" or "can you advise me some rom"
So thumbs up
the best way to keep one thread like this is :
take one benchmark.. and test all the rom.. and post all result here
like topaz one
otherwise will locked soon
Benchmark?
"How does Benchmark?"
I think.. by emulating the ROM's speed and multitasking capabilities and such?
I want to know, not by computer, but by people why 'said' ROM is great.
Honestly, this is my story here;
I heard that ROMeOS's ROM for the Rhodium was great, although I had first saw Athine OS (both the light and Titanium builds with 2.1 and 2.5 Manila, 6.1 and 6.5 WinMo) and saw the pictures of the interface were just completely amazing.
So I downloaded them, but saw that they ran.. just the same as my stock ROM (at quite the same speed), though it was much cleaner than my Telstra stock ROM which was confuddled with many apps and things that I didn't need. And the light blue theme just didn't do it for me.
So then I just recently (actually last night) installed the ROMeOS ROM on my TP2 and found it so fun to have so much control upon things such as background wallpaper (both for lock screen and home screen tab). Also things such as backlighting, edit tabs, set up bluetooth, set up data, ringtones, message notifications ALMOST EVERYTHING customizable (that you would usually have to go in and out of menus for on the stock WWE ROM, and sometimes the Athine ROM) was located in one simple tab. Neigh, a simple section within a tab that had even more customization for other things on the phone.
THAT! That was most likely made this ROM popular, and it really did get into my good books quickly... until I found out that Manila 2.5 doesn't support Landscape.
I feel like I should either.. move onto another ROM, or just live with it.
I'm using Gyrator 2 along with my ROM, and it DID have the event action NOT to have auto rotate in Manila.. even though.. I want it to...
This above.. I'm looking for comments such as this, except from other, MORE experienced users with better opinions. Who hopefully can dumb it down so that people like me and many others, still fairly new to Windows Mobile, xda-developers and the HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium alike, can understand.
I believe.. that this should be something like a collaborative blog.
Just reading back up on my post right now, it's almost as if I were reading someone's story.
Many users might not want to go through that, and others may just want to write something to have their experience heard.
What I want to do is sift through all of that, and just have the comments, positive or negative, tacked onto each ROM in a list.
My ROMs Listing post.
Right by each description from each Chef.
Maybe it'll be reason enough for mods to keep this alive, maybe it won't be.
But... saving the effort of going through each ROM (there are about... 6-10, give or take 5^x) in which said thread for said ROM has 10+ pages of posts, usually around the vicinity of 30-50.
That is A LOT OF READING.
useless information
personally, this is useless information and i don"t go by polls. The best information is based on users" signature. I also take time to read, instead of relying on polls.
SleepiTyme said:
Benchmark?
"How does Benchmark?"
I think.. by emulating the ROM's speed and multitasking capabilities and such?
I want to know, not by computer, but by people why 'said' ROM is great.
Honestly, this is my story here;
I heard that ROMeOS's ROM for the Rhodium was great, although I had first saw Athine OS (both the light and Titanium builds with 2.1 and 2.5 Manila, 6.1 and 6.5 WinMo) and saw the pictures of the interface were just completely amazing.
So I downloaded them, but saw that they ran.. just the same as my stock ROM, though it was much cleaner than my Telstra stock ROM which was confuddled with many apps and things that I didn't need. And the light blue theme just didn't do it for me.
So then I just recently (actually last night) installed the ROMeOS ROM on my TP2 and found it so fun to have so much control upon things such as background wallpaper (both for lock screen and home screen tab). Also things such as backlighting, edit tabs, set up bluetooth, set up data, ringtones, message notifications ALMOST EVERYTHING customizable (that you would usually have to go in and out of menus for on the stock WWE ROM, and sometimes the Athine ROM) was located in one simple tab. Neigh, a simple section within a tab that had even more customization for other things on the phone.
THAT! That was most likely made this ROM popular, and it really did get into my good books quickly... until I found out that Manila 2.5 doesn't support Landscape.
I feel like I should either.. move onto another ROM, or just live with it.
I'm using Gyrator 2 along with my ROM, and it DID have the event action NOT to have auto rotate in Manila.. even though.. I want it to...
This above.. I'm looking for comments such as this, except from other, MORE experienced users with better opinions. Who hopefully can dumb it down so that people like me and many others, still fairly new to Windows Mobile, xda-developers and the HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium alike, can understand.
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How does one know which is best if they do not try them all? You mentioned two ROMs but have not mentioned the others. Can you give valid opinion on which you think is best without trying them all? Everyone has different tastes.
Those are just some of the things the mods may say and have said.
Like what I said, I don't mind a thread like this and wish there was a way to do this in a way that was more subjective.
Maybe there needs to be an official ROM judge
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Well that won't work either.
The only for you to know what ROM is best for you is to try them all until you find one that you like for yourself.
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personally, this is useless information and i don"t go by polls. The best information is based on users" signature. I also take time to read, instead of relying on polls.
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Then.. maybe not polls?
What other way would be the best to;
1) save you time from reading a couple dozen to a couple hundred posts everytime you got a new device (though we're only talking about the Rhodium, and if you've read all those posts, I suppose you're a lost cause that I want to avoid being like, and want to help others avoid being as such as well)
2) Get you the accurate information on what are the highlights of the ROMs
2b) Without all the different ways that each chef sets up their forum posts to explain what their ROM does
2c) And have it all in one common format
3) Not many people post their ROMs on their signatures. I just saw it around as a growing
@At0mAng
Thank you for your opinion at this time of night.
Yes, did only mention (actually it was) three roms.
However, that is just only my input.
I've yet to trial the Miri ROM(s) and the Energy ROMs, just to name a few.
But mainly, I want simple, quick or concise comments on which ROMs a good/great and for what reason. Is it some part of the ROM? Does it perform better in the way that you've explained that you are using your TP2? Etc?
Yes.. everyone has different tastes, but they can mention what they like about 'said' ROM and help people become objective by the comments made here, and the quick pros and cons that have been tabulated onto the second post of this forum for quick reference as to which ROM does what best, or includes which great feature.
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This thread isn't here to decide Which ROM is the NUMBER ONE (for YOU)?!
It's to help guide newcomers to xda-developers, the HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium and Windows Mobile (all together) choose which ROM to pick.
I mean.. for new people, they have probably heard of ROMs, but don't know what to do with it.
What the heck is a HardSPL and flashing it?
Or, naturally after coming from the HardSPL resource sticky, one does suddenly freeze up and get stuck before spending 3-5 hours reading posts and choosing which ROM to pick and install, only to find out it doesn't really meet their requirements and move on to another one with a HUGE amount of wasted effort.
This here is to help people like that make more objective decisions, much quicker with the pros and cons of each ROM outlined and defined.
ROM Review template?
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I am not sure why, the last few times someone asked which ROM was best the mods closed the thread. They claim it cuases flame wars and such.
Personally, I dont mind, like the idea and I was just giving you a heads up. Maybe you should ask a mod before your proceed further.
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Completely agree with At0mAng and I like this idea. I don't understand the fear of flame wars either. Just ban the people who start flaming and can't have a normal discussion.
As for this thread, maybe we could all post reviews of a ROM in a certain template. E.g. give grades for speed, apps, stability, eye candy, etc... Some people look for speed and clean ROMs, others just for the most fully apped ROMs. With a review template, you could have a quick overview of what a ROM performs best on and make your pick.
It's Right!
There is NO Best ROM !
Every Cooker has his "touch and taste" in his ROM...
I love to work with you all, guys...
All the cookers here are talented!
Work AS a TEAM get us a BETTER results!!
Continue all, in the great progress...
We will "knock out" HTC software at a glance...
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There is NO Best ROM !
Every Cooker has his "touch and taste" in his ROM...
I love to work with you all, guys...
All the cookers here are talented!
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It's not the point of this thread to find THE best ROM, but to find the most suitable ROM that fits your needs, at a glance...
Normally these threads are just closed as At0mAng said, but that would be unfair to the OP who's invested a fair old bit of time in this. It isn't the usual format and could be beneficial.
I've said before, that there isn't a forum rules preventing these threads, they are just closed because most of the people who create them are lazy noobs. If this threads is successful, then it "should" lead to less new threads.
I'm now subscribed and will monitor it, if it does degrade in to pretty much a Chef A vs Chef B thread, then I'll close it.
Thanks
Dave
Hi,
I'd like to take the opportunity to try to find a ROM which fits my needs: is there any Rom out there with WM 6.5, quicker than the stock ROM (if one can compare), with as few bugs as possible, still keeping Manilla 2.1 ? By the way, I am not interested in aesthetics, nor in software when the cab is available to install by myself. I only tested EnergyROM Genesis up to now, which is excellent, bug free as far as I can tell, but with many applications, very good aesthetics, maybe speed could improve with lighter graphics... Is there any quicker ROM here ?
On a side note, I find that the virtual keyboard of the TP2 is slow, e.g. changing from alpha to numeric takes too much time (then the first digit you type is ignored), does any ROM (or cab) improve this ?
Recommended ROM
I agree with the moderator that this poll (purely on the basis of statistics) is an interesting experiment and should not be stopped. It is vital though that people who vote have tested a significant number of the roms available.
I tested all the roms available on the 20-25 Sep period (7-8 of them) and I ended up using NRGZ28's Leo Manila 2.5 ROM as the most stable, fast, good looking. Essentially I encounter no bugs in every day use and I would recommend this rom to any TP2 user.
Im waiting for my new phone Rhodium dah
And i have been looking around for different ROMs and i cant find anything that im looking for.
My old phone (X1) i ran a WM 6.5 barebone version that means no extra "stuff" or themes and on just plain simple WM 6.5 because i rum Spb Mobile shell i like the animations and so on in it so it feels waste of resources to run like TouchFLO and so on.
And when im typing this i could take the chans and ask about the Manila & Sense, Are they different version of TouchFLO 3D? never got the hang of that part :/
Thanks for all help in advance
Hi danne.
this topic is probably going to be closed soon, since this question is asked alot on this forum.
and usually, the answer is something like, take your time and install different roms to see wich one you like.
personally, I recommend you the T.I.R. explosion rom, cause it is stable and doesn't have lots of programs installed.
so it runs on the bare minimum, which is what you are looking for as far as I hear.
then again, this is my personal opinion and probably there are lots of other people around here who will tell you to try another rom.
and they are all right, so please, try them out and enjoy them all
love
fuzz
I don't know why it should be closed because ppl want to know what tip and what they should run. I mean in this case something "barebone" i all the ROMs i have been looking at i full with extra apps and other flashy teams..
Is this what you mean? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587419&highlight=explosion+rom
Thats not exactly what im looking for, I want a standard WM 6.5 not with a modified menu system or desktop.
Or if you should find a brebone some functions of the phone has been removed.. like radio. The point with barebone is not to remove functions that the phone has but to minimize the usage of memory and thems that you are never going to use. And maybe have the Themes like extra CABs or something.
im currently running a perceft barebone WM 6.5 with Spb mobile shel on my X1 and that is mutch faster then i ran a ROM with touchFLO and stuff and then mobile shell on top.
Test a several till you find the one that fits better for your needs and share it with us!
And don´t forget to vote for Rhodium"!"!
Seems that no one understands what "Standard WM 6.5" means
Anyway................
How about the TouchFlO stuff?, 3D,Manila,Sense,MaxManila and so on, What is the difference?
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Seems that no one understands what "Standard WM 6.5" means
Anyway................
How about the TouchFlO stuff?, 3D,Manila,Sense,MaxManila and so on, What is the difference?
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Manila is mostly the same as both TouchFlo3D and Sense. Since Sense is name HTC calls the TouchFlo3D in newer devices with newer properties.
And the name "Manila ver x.x.xxxxxxx"(for instance: manila v2.1.xxxxxx are usually for TouchFlo3D and v2.5.xxxxxxxxx are for Sense) is mostly used in xda and devs forums because the source files of both TouchFlo3D and Sense is called as Manila in the windoes or Android directories.
I dunno much about MaxManila but what I think about your rom decision is the same as most people, you'll probably end up with spending hours in the forum and another hours for installing - testing - reinstalling roms to your device and trying to be careful about your data, but in the end I'm sure you'll find what you really want.
Standard WM 6.5? The non-touch screen OS? Or a bare-bones version of the WM 6.5 that comes on touch screen devices (a.k.a. WM 6.5 Professional)?
If you are talking about WM 6.5 professional versions, my advice would be to look at the various posts on the ROMs and read what those who have come before you think. Do the negatives out weigh the positives? How many bugs?
Personall, I like NRG's work. Stable and efficient.
I must admit that NRG does a great job! example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773&highlight=EnergyROM
Seems to support landscape and stuff and seems to use the latest stuff.
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Im waiting for my new phone Rhodium dah
And i have been looking around for different ROMs and i cant find anything that im looking for.
My old phone (X1) i ran a WM 6.5 barebone version that means no extra "stuff" or themes and on just plain simple WM 6.5 because i rum Spb Mobile shell i like the animations and so on in it so it feels waste of resources to run like TouchFLO and so on.
And when im typing this i could take the chans and ask about the Manila & Sense, Are they different version of TouchFLO 3D? never got the hang of that part :/
Thanks for all help in advance
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None of them! Cause none are stable enough and only 1 contains landscape.
Danne84 said:
Im waiting for my new phone Rhodium dah
And i have been looking around for different ROMs and i cant find anything that im looking for.
My old phone (X1) i ran a WM 6.5 barebone version that means no extra "stuff" or themes and on just plain simple WM 6.5 because i rum Spb Mobile shell i like the animations and so on in it so it feels waste of resources to run like TouchFLO and so on.
And when im typing this i could take the chans and ask about the Manila & Sense, Are they different version of TouchFLO 3D? never got the hang of that part :/
Thanks for all help in advance
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I haven't tried it, but this sounds about like what you're looking for: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=604893
And this NRGZ ROM has just a Titanium version. Titanium, however, is just another overlay/launcher like Sense, just not as complex.
I think Energy's roms are great,but the only issue about it is his roms are not so "energy",meaning battery life is not so good.
Rhodium_AF is also nice.
As for ROM's themselves i've notice in the past year here on the XDA forums that roms have become very similar to each other with very minor differences between them in the speed and the way they look. This as become more so since people have been cooking with wm6.5
Personally i am not bothered by this because i like the more business-like look of the ROMs and i am not embarrsed to pull my phone out and show off my new GUI. And not look like the more immiture ones from a couple of years back
personally after looking around the ones by NRGZ28 seem the most ascetically pleasing of the lot and seem to have positive reviews regaurding speed
As of now, valkerie's 23518-F5 rom got all thumbs up for tp2.
NRGZ > Fast roms, with almost no trouble at all.
Ark66 > Custom rom with a stock lay out, my own experience is that this rom freezes every 2 days, if not every day
Still I love the Ark66 theme and stuff that's why I am constantly switching between those 2.
I like dotcompt Roms, awesome work with the Diamond and now amazing Rhodium Roms.
Download DeepShining v11, it is simple the best there is.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=571892
OMG!
I prefer the NRGZ28 ROMS.
No, I prefer the Deepshining.
Well, I prefer the Valkyrie.
I think the Cell series are the best.
How about Jackos, Twopumpchump, Josh's, LeoPard, Mccune, AthineOS, Aruppenthal, Bhar's, Da_G, daxy, Sergio, eras2r, ...
Stop asking which is best. It is a matter of opinion and need. And the answer is different for us all or we would just have the Miscrosft version and xda wouldn't be needed. Try them until you find what you are looking for, or cook your own.
Please close this thread and those like it.
Sorry for the lag guys, my HD crashed (hal.dll, ntldr,etc...) what happens when you mix three roms at once in you main partition I guess. After 2 -3 days of reinstalling patches & updates I am finally back.
Biggest advice for all of you: Get Ghost or another High end disk image program. I know need to re-download tools & such. ARK rom is up next. I also got a complaint about use of NRG's rom. Not by NRG, who is so far ahead I am sure he graciously just doesn't care, but JHV3 alledging he has actually written one of the camera programs inside from scratch. I am going to reverse & IDA it just to know the TRUTH because I am always curious, but I don't know about dumping the rom. I had planned on moving on anyway. My main purpose here is to see what works, what doesn't, what the comments are & then to produce a stable & functioning lite rom that can be dumped & re-cooked by anyone using my older easybake style kitchen.
Hang on, I'll be back soon as possible with a lite & compressed ARK rom. Again, as before, donate to XDA or the original masters. All of the work in every cooked rom is only possible because of people like BuzzLiteYear, ItsMe, Oli for HardSPL, Jocky_W who always is so giving of his time & knowledge, & the team that created the first kitchen back before '02 CE Kitchen, & the 2003SE kitchen (BlueAngel) which is one of the device forums that really paved the way for everyone. Thanks to all of you, the true cornerstones of XDA. Also there are those that carry on the spirit, Da_G, whom shares every new build with just about the world, chainfire for all his time & fixes (BTW, THE CFC 2.5 VERSIONS WORK WELL WHEN HIS LEO PATCHES ARE COOKED IN), yep even in Rhodium.
UPDATE!!!
First Lite Re-Cooked Rom...NRGZ28's 1/20/2010 Build 21889 - Sense 2.5
Ok, I have always preferred TF3D 2.1 rom's, but it seems that the new Leo ports of 2.5 are nice indeed & I have found myself really liking NRG's latest rom. This is my modded version & although I did spend a lot of time weeding out the useless files generated by the type of kitched used originally (Resolution related mostly) I take no other credit & freely admit that the order of work put into this rom is as follows 1. Microsoft 2. HTC 3. NRGZ28 & lastly, Me.
I truly hope he does not mind too much, & just to show the true intent, I have a new skin for ActionScreen. NRG, you will like this one & please feel free to use it. Anyone & everyone is free to use any of my modified folders, icons or skins.
This rom includes all of the base packages & even a few extras, but there is no useless GPS Test or Tools, No CE Commander (Total Commander), only 2 themes & only 2 ring tones. Wifi Monster is gone as I like the new HTC WIFI program & so are most of the tweak apps like Advanced Config. These can all be installed via cab files which I will post optimized versions of as I have time.
This ROM is uses a new rebuild script implementing what I call dual compression. This means that many files, libraries, exe's, etc...get compressed, plus the rom is reconstructed using another secondary compression method.
This rom is OS only, no boot screen or radio. I use the radio version 4.48.25.20 & it works great. I will post some pics when I get a chance, but as Alltheway will tell you shortly, it is safe to flash as long as you follow the guidelines & have hardspl installed. If you don't know what a radio rom, os only rom or hardspl is, then you are in the wrong place. While I assure you it is a completely safe rom, I don't take any direct responsibility if you have a "doh" moment & fry your device.
This is just a taste of thing to come including a base stripped rom with a true easy bake (add/remove) kitchen.
This rebake has two options. 1st is what I call Standard Dual Compression (Programs, Files & Rom) 2nd is Dual Compression plus True CFC compression on ALL of the Sense 2.5 files. What you use is totally up to your prefference. I am still playing with both modes to see which seems the best combination of performance & stability.
(Sense 2.5 Standard) This rom Has a PP of 24mB & initially has about 219mB storage memory & 90mB..Program memory at boot time with Sense running.
Here is the standard Sense 2.5 rom download: CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD STANDARD VERSION
(Sense 2.5 CFC Compressed) This rom Has a PP of 24mB & initially has about 225mB storage memory & 95mB Program memory.
I STRONGLY DISSUADE YOU FROM USING THE CFC ROM. CFC IS NOT READY FOR SENSE 2.5 QUITE YET.
Here is the CFC Compressed Sense 2.5 rom download: UPLOADING!
CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD CFC VERSION
I don't ask for any donations for anything you ask here & actually encourage you to donate to the site or the original chef. I DO ASK THAT YOU DO NOT MIRROR THE LINKS. HOSTING IS GETTING EXPENSIVE & MY CONTRACT RAN OUT IN OCTOBER OF 2009 SO EVERY PENNY or RAPID POINT COUNTS. THX!
The parts I like from a rom is the Maxmanila or manila 2.5. Thats all that really matters to me...
that does definitely sound as a great idea! The thought for the consept is very honorable so there I'd like to wish good luck!
I like the idea of the lighness a lot! Although if you plan to create ROMs for noobs, business and on, I personally think this should reflected in the roms. as a chef u might for example know which pim backup solution or other tools works better and in harmony with your rom. totally clean and light could therefore (dependent on user group) be misunderstood as an"empty house" which one want to fill with stuff but doen't know with what and brings in anything just not to have an empty house.
So maybe differenciating wouldn't be an idea to considere.
Rom I use right now is Ark's ROM which I really like and which is at this time my absolute favorite. It's usebilit, stability and it's looks are very harmonic. It is a really nice experience with my HTC Touch Pro 2 which HTC itself unfortunately failed to provide.
I like icons on his rom. I would cathegorize his Rom as business. Before that my favorite was Energyrom, although the optics of energyrom are challenging for they emphasize a very personal taste. Something neutral and sobre would be great that would satisfy many.
Good luck and thank you for you interest and ideals about xda community!
This is a great idea. I have tried a lot of ROM here, stayed a couple of weeks with some of them, but my favorite now is... the stock WM 6.5 Rom. My problem with custom ROMs is that first they are filled with cab you either do not need or that you could install by yourself, second the ones I preferred (Energy, Josh) never stop development, it feels like they want to provide new features (so new bugs) and never try to definitely fix bugs on current version. Samberg's was seducing but stopped development before fixing all issues.
To me there is not much missing on the stock Rom, I'd like the Wifi Router integrated in CommManager (I did not see a cab working at 100%). But it could be lighten with some software (Copilot, store...). As concerns themes, Energy is nice but I would prefer staying with stock icons, not having to recognize new icons when changing Rom or device.
I'll definitely try your work, whatever Rom you start with...
Thierry
Edit : Some software from Josh's that I do not need, that can be installed with a cab : Myspace, Facebook, Twitter, Entertainment, all games...
Edit 2 : I used to have BattClock instead of the battery icon (you get both the clock and the battery charge, + memory if you wish), but this can be installed with a cab.
I'd like to see a ROM that has nothing that can be installed via a cab. Just the absolute basics. Then I can install as I desire.
I am using the EnergyRom- Leo 23518- Sense2.5- MaxManilla from NRGZ28. I have tried about ten ROMs on my Tilt 2 and this is one of the best. Great chef, too.
Looking forward to your efforts.
at last great idea
i prefer nrg rom 23XXX build both sens 2.5 or 2.1 but better to use 2.1 because of speed
best rom will be i think 23518 with sense 2.1 and nothing inside more
i hope you will soon cook something
and i think too that chefs must create one bug free release and then after going to cook new thinks so people can use something stable in the mean time
@ GSLEON3
GREAT idea re the Lite version. For me (I know others disagree), one of the last things I'm really NOT looking for is "eye-candy" that you see as one of the buzz words. It makes me feel kinda dirty like I'm chasing an iPhone or something - haha.
But I think that the real need is speed and functionality.
I would LOVE to see a good Lite version - the trick is that there seems to be simple finctionality that is left out by many Chefs with "Lite" versions ... a great example is that the best I can tell, every Lite (or Titanium) version out there loses the "Add to Contacts" functionality when you get (or make a call) to somone not in your address book. If you click on the "Add to Contact" button - nothing happens. this has been true for NRG's, Agent47's and others.
Any chance you would post or even PM me your current version that you are using ? I'd be happy to offer more feedback!
Here,here! Kim took the words right out of my mouth! Just put up a list of updated and/or popular cabs with the ROM. Either way, I appreciate all the cooks. Keep up the good work.
GSLEON3
Hey buddy long time no talk. Let me know if you need me to do some beta testing on the ROM. Just picked up a Tilt 2 today. It's ready for it's flashing abuse.
hey guys, the initiative indeed is honorable!!!
so my share of toughts is :
--> a stable version of sense2.5 with landscape (so whenever the official release is out)
--> with the rhodium stock dialer (with call/video call + single call/conference options available)
--> base 6.5.3 with the start menu on top (if possible, because the big icons do not look good with the slider) OR winmo 6.1 (same as jackos hybrid ROM, because video playback is the best with the coreplayer/6.1 combination)
--> htc SMS software from sense2.0 or 2.1 (so not the leo one... too slow)
--> black & white slider from sense 2.0 (because it goes so well with the spirit of the rhodium.. classy & businessy xD)
--> opera 9.5 or 9.7 but not 10.. too slow!! If a mobile web browser needs a 1ghz cpu to work correctly.. well i don't need a phone for internet browsing anymore.. i mean what's the point ??)
--> youtube working
--> maybe 1version per language (no more french roms available on xda, or maybe one but full of bugs)
.... well my dream is to have a fully functionnal rom, with the best things that a RHODIUM can hadle, and that looks (as much as possible) like the stock rom (if needed, i can work on some twitter/document b&w icons for a 2.5 slider)
-btw, favorite and most stable rom for me is ARK's ROM
and whatever comes out of this thread, i'm just saying man, that the side of the xda spirit you mentionned does seem to be missing.. it has nothing to do with the good ol' artemis p3300 days THANKS MAN FOR THE IDEA
I have never used ARK's roms. I will definitely give it a look. The culmination of all of these roms (& I plan on modding at least a dozen) will be to finally cook a public rom from scratch using the information gleamed from the modding of the existing cooked roms. Take the best of all & hopefully voila...A solid performer will be born.
I have always cooked my own roms. Just never cooked for public as my job took up too much time to support a public rom. I usually would share my betas with a few of my mod buddies, but that's it. Being as I am currently unemployed, well...let's just say I have a bit of time & a few sleepless nights.
Rhodium has changed, XDA has changed & is now like a high school full of cliques. Everyone think they can protect their roms, very few really can though if you know how to read & have been doing so sinc emy old PPC 2002 & Blue Angel days. We have gone fromk a development site to a "look at me & pay me" site. The funny thing is most chef's these days (Not all, so don't get sand in your panties) wouldn't be able to do diddley squat if the elders such as itsme, BuzzLightyear, Mennisys, Jocky, Dutty, Ervius, bepe, etc... had this same "mine, mine, mine" attiutde back in the day.
EVen in Kaiser, yo had Sleuth & yes, even Dutty providing OEMS & kitchen folders for noobies. The Rhodium section is seriously lagging in these areas now. DA_G is a good example in the power of sharing.
Anyway, I digress. Let's just learn together & have a little fun.
but why not 23518
and faster sense 2.1
when will be that done
GSLEON3-
I could not agree more with your statements and your observations of where XDA seems to be going, at least in the Rhodium forum. I also rememeber the good old days and all of those truely great chefs that you mentioned. It was a different philosopy then. It seems everyone now has a Paypal link so we can buy them a beer. Even people with nothing to offer are putting give me money links in their sigs. But now I digress.
Please keep up the good fight. I know you will have many followers.
Edit: I neglected to mention this when I posted. If you don't know who he is, Alltheway is a God on this site. It appears that GSLEON3 has his support. This is fantastic news for us all. Welcome Alltheway and thank you, too.
I am unable to download. Am I being impatient? I tried both files from your links but the free version of RS is too busy. I have a Premium account I can use but that only gives me a 7kb file. Please advise. Thanks.
Edit: Nevermind. Finally able to get it later today.
English is not my native language I'm not demanding anything i just want to give suggestion
for me wm6.5.5 is way better for use that 6.5 but i know that is too buggy still
now flashing my phone with your rom
i will post pros and cons after few days of using
Thanks a lot
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GSLEON3-
I could not agree more with your statements and your observations of where XDA seems to be going, at least in the Rhodium forum. I also rememeber the good old days and all of those truely great chefs that you mentioned. It was a different philosopy then. It seems everyone now has a Paypal link so we can buy them a beer. Even people with nothing to offer are putting give me money links in their sigs. But now I digress.
Please keep up the good fight. I know you will have many followers.
Edit: I neglected to mention this when I posted. If you don't know who he is, Alltheway is a God on this site. It appears that GSLEON3 has his support. This is fantastic news for us all. Welcome Alltheway and thank you, too.
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I'm not trying to attack your opinion but I would like to add, that what you have described is a normal well known human phenomen. There is nothing about it that deserves critisizm.
People who founded XDA-Developers were united by enthusiasm and passion for technology. Therefore they're pioneers and were driven by "ideals".
Their attitude stimulated reality and made manufacturers understand what people expect from them, so today we have greater technology and it's impressive usability for dayly lives.
What is going on here today is that people are no more driven together by the passion for technology and enthusiasm but by their "expensive status symbols". I think also iPhone is responsible for that kinda development. It is obvious Pocket PC flourish came shortly after iphone was introduced.
Before that Pocket PC was prerogative of businesmen who happened to want to have "semi-computer" experience i.e. be able lookup their appointments and make phone calls in a different way than the mojaroity does.
The "freaks" like xda founders were driven instead by ideas and possibilities the technology they thought can offer for "humanity"
Now these times are obviously over. People explore xda not for the "original" reasons but out of curiousity - TOUCHSCREEN TECHNOLOGY FASHION!
In this case it would be pretty damn "stupid" not to suggest donations for hard work you do to sutisfy somebody's curiousity!!!!!
So please do not attack those who decide to do so. Donation is a D O N A T I O N!!!! I haven't seen anyone forcing me to donation. It's up to decide who I donate to and if I decide to do so, then it is my decision and not the chefs or developers.
Good luck to all! Peace!
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I have never used ARK's roms. I will definitely give it a look. The culmination of all of these roms (& I plan on modding at least a dozen) will be to finally cook a public rom from scratch using the information gleamed from the modding of the existing cooked roms. Take the best of all & hopefully voila...A solid performer will be born.
I have always cooked my own roms. Just never cooked for public as my job took up too much time to support a public rom. I usually would share my betas with a few of my mod buddies, but that's it. Being as I am currently unemployed, well...let's just say I have a bit of time & a few sleepless nights.
Rhodium has changed, XDA has changed & is now like a high school full of cliques. Everyone think they can protect their roms, very few really can though if you know how to read & have been doing so sinc emy old PPC 2002 & Blue Angel days. We have gone fromk a development site to a "look at me & pay me" site. The funny thing is most chef's these days (Not all, so don't get sand in your panties) wouldn't be able to do diddley squat if the elders such as itsme, BuzzLightyear, Mennisys, Jocky, Dutty, Ervius, bepe, etc... had this same "mine, mine, mine" attiutde back in the day.
EVen in Kaiser, yo had Sleuth & yes, even Dutty providing OEMS & kitchen folders for noobies. The Rhodium section is seriously lagging in these areas now. DA_G is a good example in the power of sharing.
Anyway, I digress. Let's just learn together & have a little fun.
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Please take a look into Ark's latest ROMs!!!
He might be new in the "cooking business" if you haven't met him before but he does really a great job.
As I understood from your concept presentation in the 1st post that you want to make a light ROM(s) to give this community speed, stability and INDEPENDENCE with their devices.
INDEPENDENCE is a keyword that alertet me and made me reply.
I'm not questioning the quality of ches work here and their capability. But I do feel confronted with the personal taste in many ROMs in terms of their optics. Of course lot of it is not a big deal for many, for you can change things to your own taste. The issue here is though, that during readjusting a ROM a lot of things go wrong and ROMs become unuseable. I agree has probably to do with illeteracy of many, like myself. That's why I like the idea very much to have "BASICS" so that I can change some things without destroyng some other things in the ROM.
As I said Ark's ROM is nice in terms of looks that it makes you feel you have a stock ROM which you can modify or adjust to your current mood or taste.
It would be nice if you could integrate that concept in your work.
Thank you and good luck!
Pretty nice ROM. Still not quite as lite as I 'd like. It seems fast and stable for the short time that I tested it.
Screenshots
Anybody have some screen shots of the ROM?
Here you go
AllTheWay said:
Anybody have some screen shots of the ROM?
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Per your request. Here are the screen shots. (I have contacts photos connected with facebook, therefore, my free program is low (45 mb))
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