Sorry for the lag guys, my HD crashed (hal.dll, ntldr,etc...) what happens when you mix three roms at once in you main partition I guess. After 2 -3 days of reinstalling patches & updates I am finally back.
Biggest advice for all of you: Get Ghost or another High end disk image program. I know need to re-download tools & such. ARK rom is up next. I also got a complaint about use of NRG's rom. Not by NRG, who is so far ahead I am sure he graciously just doesn't care, but JHV3 alledging he has actually written one of the camera programs inside from scratch. I am going to reverse & IDA it just to know the TRUTH because I am always curious, but I don't know about dumping the rom. I had planned on moving on anyway. My main purpose here is to see what works, what doesn't, what the comments are & then to produce a stable & functioning lite rom that can be dumped & re-cooked by anyone using my older easybake style kitchen.
Hang on, I'll be back soon as possible with a lite & compressed ARK rom. Again, as before, donate to XDA or the original masters. All of the work in every cooked rom is only possible because of people like BuzzLiteYear, ItsMe, Oli for HardSPL, Jocky_W who always is so giving of his time & knowledge, & the team that created the first kitchen back before '02 CE Kitchen, & the 2003SE kitchen (BlueAngel) which is one of the device forums that really paved the way for everyone. Thanks to all of you, the true cornerstones of XDA. Also there are those that carry on the spirit, Da_G, whom shares every new build with just about the world, chainfire for all his time & fixes (BTW, THE CFC 2.5 VERSIONS WORK WELL WHEN HIS LEO PATCHES ARE COOKED IN), yep even in Rhodium.
UPDATE!!!
First Lite Re-Cooked Rom...NRGZ28's 1/20/2010 Build 21889 - Sense 2.5
Ok, I have always preferred TF3D 2.1 rom's, but it seems that the new Leo ports of 2.5 are nice indeed & I have found myself really liking NRG's latest rom. This is my modded version & although I did spend a lot of time weeding out the useless files generated by the type of kitched used originally (Resolution related mostly) I take no other credit & freely admit that the order of work put into this rom is as follows 1. Microsoft 2. HTC 3. NRGZ28 & lastly, Me.
I truly hope he does not mind too much, & just to show the true intent, I have a new skin for ActionScreen. NRG, you will like this one & please feel free to use it. Anyone & everyone is free to use any of my modified folders, icons or skins.
This rom includes all of the base packages & even a few extras, but there is no useless GPS Test or Tools, No CE Commander (Total Commander), only 2 themes & only 2 ring tones. Wifi Monster is gone as I like the new HTC WIFI program & so are most of the tweak apps like Advanced Config. These can all be installed via cab files which I will post optimized versions of as I have time.
This ROM is uses a new rebuild script implementing what I call dual compression. This means that many files, libraries, exe's, etc...get compressed, plus the rom is reconstructed using another secondary compression method.
This rom is OS only, no boot screen or radio. I use the radio version 4.48.25.20 & it works great. I will post some pics when I get a chance, but as Alltheway will tell you shortly, it is safe to flash as long as you follow the guidelines & have hardspl installed. If you don't know what a radio rom, os only rom or hardspl is, then you are in the wrong place. While I assure you it is a completely safe rom, I don't take any direct responsibility if you have a "doh" moment & fry your device.
This is just a taste of thing to come including a base stripped rom with a true easy bake (add/remove) kitchen.
This rebake has two options. 1st is what I call Standard Dual Compression (Programs, Files & Rom) 2nd is Dual Compression plus True CFC compression on ALL of the Sense 2.5 files. What you use is totally up to your prefference. I am still playing with both modes to see which seems the best combination of performance & stability.
(Sense 2.5 Standard) This rom Has a PP of 24mB & initially has about 219mB storage memory & 90mB..Program memory at boot time with Sense running.
Here is the standard Sense 2.5 rom download: CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD STANDARD VERSION
(Sense 2.5 CFC Compressed) This rom Has a PP of 24mB & initially has about 225mB storage memory & 95mB Program memory.
I STRONGLY DISSUADE YOU FROM USING THE CFC ROM. CFC IS NOT READY FOR SENSE 2.5 QUITE YET.
Here is the CFC Compressed Sense 2.5 rom download: UPLOADING!
CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD CFC VERSION
I don't ask for any donations for anything you ask here & actually encourage you to donate to the site or the original chef. I DO ASK THAT YOU DO NOT MIRROR THE LINKS. HOSTING IS GETTING EXPENSIVE & MY CONTRACT RAN OUT IN OCTOBER OF 2009 SO EVERY PENNY or RAPID POINT COUNTS. THX!
The parts I like from a rom is the Maxmanila or manila 2.5. Thats all that really matters to me...
that does definitely sound as a great idea! The thought for the consept is very honorable so there I'd like to wish good luck!
I like the idea of the lighness a lot! Although if you plan to create ROMs for noobs, business and on, I personally think this should reflected in the roms. as a chef u might for example know which pim backup solution or other tools works better and in harmony with your rom. totally clean and light could therefore (dependent on user group) be misunderstood as an"empty house" which one want to fill with stuff but doen't know with what and brings in anything just not to have an empty house.
So maybe differenciating wouldn't be an idea to considere.
Rom I use right now is Ark's ROM which I really like and which is at this time my absolute favorite. It's usebilit, stability and it's looks are very harmonic. It is a really nice experience with my HTC Touch Pro 2 which HTC itself unfortunately failed to provide.
I like icons on his rom. I would cathegorize his Rom as business. Before that my favorite was Energyrom, although the optics of energyrom are challenging for they emphasize a very personal taste. Something neutral and sobre would be great that would satisfy many.
Good luck and thank you for you interest and ideals about xda community!
This is a great idea. I have tried a lot of ROM here, stayed a couple of weeks with some of them, but my favorite now is... the stock WM 6.5 Rom. My problem with custom ROMs is that first they are filled with cab you either do not need or that you could install by yourself, second the ones I preferred (Energy, Josh) never stop development, it feels like they want to provide new features (so new bugs) and never try to definitely fix bugs on current version. Samberg's was seducing but stopped development before fixing all issues.
To me there is not much missing on the stock Rom, I'd like the Wifi Router integrated in CommManager (I did not see a cab working at 100%). But it could be lighten with some software (Copilot, store...). As concerns themes, Energy is nice but I would prefer staying with stock icons, not having to recognize new icons when changing Rom or device.
I'll definitely try your work, whatever Rom you start with...
Thierry
Edit : Some software from Josh's that I do not need, that can be installed with a cab : Myspace, Facebook, Twitter, Entertainment, all games...
Edit 2 : I used to have BattClock instead of the battery icon (you get both the clock and the battery charge, + memory if you wish), but this can be installed with a cab.
I'd like to see a ROM that has nothing that can be installed via a cab. Just the absolute basics. Then I can install as I desire.
I am using the EnergyRom- Leo 23518- Sense2.5- MaxManilla from NRGZ28. I have tried about ten ROMs on my Tilt 2 and this is one of the best. Great chef, too.
Looking forward to your efforts.
at last great idea
i prefer nrg rom 23XXX build both sens 2.5 or 2.1 but better to use 2.1 because of speed
best rom will be i think 23518 with sense 2.1 and nothing inside more
i hope you will soon cook something
and i think too that chefs must create one bug free release and then after going to cook new thinks so people can use something stable in the mean time
@ GSLEON3
GREAT idea re the Lite version. For me (I know others disagree), one of the last things I'm really NOT looking for is "eye-candy" that you see as one of the buzz words. It makes me feel kinda dirty like I'm chasing an iPhone or something - haha.
But I think that the real need is speed and functionality.
I would LOVE to see a good Lite version - the trick is that there seems to be simple finctionality that is left out by many Chefs with "Lite" versions ... a great example is that the best I can tell, every Lite (or Titanium) version out there loses the "Add to Contacts" functionality when you get (or make a call) to somone not in your address book. If you click on the "Add to Contact" button - nothing happens. this has been true for NRG's, Agent47's and others.
Any chance you would post or even PM me your current version that you are using ? I'd be happy to offer more feedback!
Here,here! Kim took the words right out of my mouth! Just put up a list of updated and/or popular cabs with the ROM. Either way, I appreciate all the cooks. Keep up the good work.
GSLEON3
Hey buddy long time no talk. Let me know if you need me to do some beta testing on the ROM. Just picked up a Tilt 2 today. It's ready for it's flashing abuse.
hey guys, the initiative indeed is honorable!!!
so my share of toughts is :
--> a stable version of sense2.5 with landscape (so whenever the official release is out)
--> with the rhodium stock dialer (with call/video call + single call/conference options available)
--> base 6.5.3 with the start menu on top (if possible, because the big icons do not look good with the slider) OR winmo 6.1 (same as jackos hybrid ROM, because video playback is the best with the coreplayer/6.1 combination)
--> htc SMS software from sense2.0 or 2.1 (so not the leo one... too slow)
--> black & white slider from sense 2.0 (because it goes so well with the spirit of the rhodium.. classy & businessy xD)
--> opera 9.5 or 9.7 but not 10.. too slow!! If a mobile web browser needs a 1ghz cpu to work correctly.. well i don't need a phone for internet browsing anymore.. i mean what's the point ??)
--> youtube working
--> maybe 1version per language (no more french roms available on xda, or maybe one but full of bugs)
.... well my dream is to have a fully functionnal rom, with the best things that a RHODIUM can hadle, and that looks (as much as possible) like the stock rom (if needed, i can work on some twitter/document b&w icons for a 2.5 slider)
-btw, favorite and most stable rom for me is ARK's ROM
and whatever comes out of this thread, i'm just saying man, that the side of the xda spirit you mentionned does seem to be missing.. it has nothing to do with the good ol' artemis p3300 days THANKS MAN FOR THE IDEA
I have never used ARK's roms. I will definitely give it a look. The culmination of all of these roms (& I plan on modding at least a dozen) will be to finally cook a public rom from scratch using the information gleamed from the modding of the existing cooked roms. Take the best of all & hopefully voila...A solid performer will be born.
I have always cooked my own roms. Just never cooked for public as my job took up too much time to support a public rom. I usually would share my betas with a few of my mod buddies, but that's it. Being as I am currently unemployed, well...let's just say I have a bit of time & a few sleepless nights.
Rhodium has changed, XDA has changed & is now like a high school full of cliques. Everyone think they can protect their roms, very few really can though if you know how to read & have been doing so sinc emy old PPC 2002 & Blue Angel days. We have gone fromk a development site to a "look at me & pay me" site. The funny thing is most chef's these days (Not all, so don't get sand in your panties) wouldn't be able to do diddley squat if the elders such as itsme, BuzzLightyear, Mennisys, Jocky, Dutty, Ervius, bepe, etc... had this same "mine, mine, mine" attiutde back in the day.
EVen in Kaiser, yo had Sleuth & yes, even Dutty providing OEMS & kitchen folders for noobies. The Rhodium section is seriously lagging in these areas now. DA_G is a good example in the power of sharing.
Anyway, I digress. Let's just learn together & have a little fun.
but why not 23518
and faster sense 2.1
when will be that done
GSLEON3-
I could not agree more with your statements and your observations of where XDA seems to be going, at least in the Rhodium forum. I also rememeber the good old days and all of those truely great chefs that you mentioned. It was a different philosopy then. It seems everyone now has a Paypal link so we can buy them a beer. Even people with nothing to offer are putting give me money links in their sigs. But now I digress.
Please keep up the good fight. I know you will have many followers.
Edit: I neglected to mention this when I posted. If you don't know who he is, Alltheway is a God on this site. It appears that GSLEON3 has his support. This is fantastic news for us all. Welcome Alltheway and thank you, too.
I am unable to download. Am I being impatient? I tried both files from your links but the free version of RS is too busy. I have a Premium account I can use but that only gives me a 7kb file. Please advise. Thanks.
Edit: Nevermind. Finally able to get it later today.
English is not my native language I'm not demanding anything i just want to give suggestion
for me wm6.5.5 is way better for use that 6.5 but i know that is too buggy still
now flashing my phone with your rom
i will post pros and cons after few days of using
Thanks a lot
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GSLEON3-
I could not agree more with your statements and your observations of where XDA seems to be going, at least in the Rhodium forum. I also rememeber the good old days and all of those truely great chefs that you mentioned. It was a different philosopy then. It seems everyone now has a Paypal link so we can buy them a beer. Even people with nothing to offer are putting give me money links in their sigs. But now I digress.
Please keep up the good fight. I know you will have many followers.
Edit: I neglected to mention this when I posted. If you don't know who he is, Alltheway is a God on this site. It appears that GSLEON3 has his support. This is fantastic news for us all. Welcome Alltheway and thank you, too.
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I'm not trying to attack your opinion but I would like to add, that what you have described is a normal well known human phenomen. There is nothing about it that deserves critisizm.
People who founded XDA-Developers were united by enthusiasm and passion for technology. Therefore they're pioneers and were driven by "ideals".
Their attitude stimulated reality and made manufacturers understand what people expect from them, so today we have greater technology and it's impressive usability for dayly lives.
What is going on here today is that people are no more driven together by the passion for technology and enthusiasm but by their "expensive status symbols". I think also iPhone is responsible for that kinda development. It is obvious Pocket PC flourish came shortly after iphone was introduced.
Before that Pocket PC was prerogative of businesmen who happened to want to have "semi-computer" experience i.e. be able lookup their appointments and make phone calls in a different way than the mojaroity does.
The "freaks" like xda founders were driven instead by ideas and possibilities the technology they thought can offer for "humanity"
Now these times are obviously over. People explore xda not for the "original" reasons but out of curiousity - TOUCHSCREEN TECHNOLOGY FASHION!
In this case it would be pretty damn "stupid" not to suggest donations for hard work you do to sutisfy somebody's curiousity!!!!!
So please do not attack those who decide to do so. Donation is a D O N A T I O N!!!! I haven't seen anyone forcing me to donation. It's up to decide who I donate to and if I decide to do so, then it is my decision and not the chefs or developers.
Good luck to all! Peace!
GSLEON3 said:
I have never used ARK's roms. I will definitely give it a look. The culmination of all of these roms (& I plan on modding at least a dozen) will be to finally cook a public rom from scratch using the information gleamed from the modding of the existing cooked roms. Take the best of all & hopefully voila...A solid performer will be born.
I have always cooked my own roms. Just never cooked for public as my job took up too much time to support a public rom. I usually would share my betas with a few of my mod buddies, but that's it. Being as I am currently unemployed, well...let's just say I have a bit of time & a few sleepless nights.
Rhodium has changed, XDA has changed & is now like a high school full of cliques. Everyone think they can protect their roms, very few really can though if you know how to read & have been doing so sinc emy old PPC 2002 & Blue Angel days. We have gone fromk a development site to a "look at me & pay me" site. The funny thing is most chef's these days (Not all, so don't get sand in your panties) wouldn't be able to do diddley squat if the elders such as itsme, BuzzLightyear, Mennisys, Jocky, Dutty, Ervius, bepe, etc... had this same "mine, mine, mine" attiutde back in the day.
EVen in Kaiser, yo had Sleuth & yes, even Dutty providing OEMS & kitchen folders for noobies. The Rhodium section is seriously lagging in these areas now. DA_G is a good example in the power of sharing.
Anyway, I digress. Let's just learn together & have a little fun.
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Please take a look into Ark's latest ROMs!!!
He might be new in the "cooking business" if you haven't met him before but he does really a great job.
As I understood from your concept presentation in the 1st post that you want to make a light ROM(s) to give this community speed, stability and INDEPENDENCE with their devices.
INDEPENDENCE is a keyword that alertet me and made me reply.
I'm not questioning the quality of ches work here and their capability. But I do feel confronted with the personal taste in many ROMs in terms of their optics. Of course lot of it is not a big deal for many, for you can change things to your own taste. The issue here is though, that during readjusting a ROM a lot of things go wrong and ROMs become unuseable. I agree has probably to do with illeteracy of many, like myself. That's why I like the idea very much to have "BASICS" so that I can change some things without destroyng some other things in the ROM.
As I said Ark's ROM is nice in terms of looks that it makes you feel you have a stock ROM which you can modify or adjust to your current mood or taste.
It would be nice if you could integrate that concept in your work.
Thank you and good luck!
Pretty nice ROM. Still not quite as lite as I 'd like. It seems fast and stable for the short time that I tested it.
Screenshots
Anybody have some screen shots of the ROM?
Here you go
AllTheWay said:
Anybody have some screen shots of the ROM?
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Per your request. Here are the screen shots. (I have contacts photos connected with facebook, therefore, my free program is low (45 mb))
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Wow. Unbelievable how many threads are opened with problem with the newly released ROM at HTC-e Club. I downloaded my version too from that site the moment I saw announcement here. First of all, I did not get a mail from HTC at all, should have liked that in the first place.
I decided not yet to install. Luckily a good decision it seems according to that huge list of complaints.
Normally a forum is always only full of complaints, no one is posting when all things a good (enough), so that is not surprising me at all.
But of all users that installed this new ROM version, aren't there any people who are satisfied? That is what I was wondering. So just leave you name and a message here if all works well, so I can be convinced to also try this new version myself.
[Edit]Hopefully this list will be long [/Edit]
Apart from a few complaints that I had, I think that there are actually many things that are improved, for example the graphics when you turn portrait to landscape...and this is a remarkable one. And also, you are able to 'zoom in' in the latest Internet Explorer (WM6.1 standard one).
i was happy user with WM 2003, and later with WM2003 SE, and later with WM5, and later with WM6, and now with WM6.1... so you can say i'm a happy user in general i beleave you can be a happy user with any Mobile OS... i beleave is a choice...
Cheers
Very happy here. I'm running the official 6.1 ROM with the accompanying HTC SPL (overwriting the Hard SPL I used previously, as mine is a Vodafone branded phone) and it's far more responsive device - no more pauses or missed button presses, very little waiting around generally, and certain tasks like browsing files are markedly quicker. The new features (threaded SMS and improved IE) are good, having the camera and bluetooth fixes in ROM is worthwhile, and the whole package just feels like a much better, snappier device.
If I had to criticise it on anything, I'd say that at times the GPS can be slower to get a lock on - but then, at other times, it seems very quick - so I probably need to test that some more.
Im pretty happy myself
especially when I go from portrait to landscape
it loads up the screen real fast.
Found no grounds for complaints as of now (4 days and counting). Using the SWE version of the official update.
Happy user here!
corleno said:
Im pretty happy myself
especially when I go from portrait to landscape
it loads up the screen real fast.
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same here.
me happy 2
Yes I confim being happy by the new official 6.1 release from HTC ... I was never happy with any cooked rom except with only one 2003 rom I had to cook it myself to add certain applications I didn't want to loose them with hard reset ...
with so much due respect to all gurus and chefs here, but playing with the core components and registry tweaks are not gauarnteed to hold against all types of applications a user may decide to install later ... actually this is the main reason for most of complaints.
I only didn't like the new threaded sms, but it's only a matter of small tweak .. but all the rest is so fine for me.
After about 3 flashes. a lil bit contented... but not happy.
The only reason i stick with this official rom is because i am kind of a purist, there are other very good roms from various cooks on this forum. But i prefer this one becasue its just generic* and i consider it pure from the manufacturer without person tweaks as a result of peoples personal preferences.
Sorry, I'm NOT happy with the latest official HTC 6.1 ROM.
BUT, I'm running udK's Vega R0 WM6.1 ROM for weeks, and I'm very happy with that one!
I'm very happy with the original release! It's working very fast here.
My screen flips very fast too.
But if you were to try the HTC rom with the HTC SPL your opinion might change!
Personally, I think, like Boingg, that the new ROM is great PROVIDED you re-install the HTC SPL.
As another person also said, there are some very good cooked ROM's here, but while they introduce some speed/performance improvements, they can also introduce their own bugs. One cook in particular seems intent on providing quantity over quality by uploading a new ROM seemingly every hour - always amuses me when I read the responses, like 'What a great rom, I am wetting myself its sooooooo good!! - By the way, here's a list of the bugs I found' (This isn't a direct quote, but you get the idea!!). I think at the end of day that the ROM that has been designed for a particular device will always be better than one that has been manhandled from elsewhere - although some of the ported ROM's do get pretty close, there is always some niggle or other.
Anyway, I will stop rambling.... yes I am happy with the HTC ROM but I reserve the right to re-flash at any time!
I'm using the WWE version and am happy with it so far.
rubinho93 said:
I'm very happy with the original release! It's working very fast here.
My screen flips very fast too.
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lol ... it draws in the background and displays it latter
no not fast actually... same speed about 2~5 seconds depends @cache (I think)
Doemaarwat said:
Wow. Unbelievable how many threads are opened with problem with the newly released ROM at HTC-e Club. I downloaded my version too from that site the moment I saw announcement here. First of all, I did not get a mail from HTC at all, should have liked that in the first place.
I decided not yet to install. Luckily a good decision it seems according to that huge list of complaints.
Normally a forum is always only full of complaints, no one is posting when all things a good (enough), so that is not surprising me at all.
But of all users that installed this new ROM version, aren't there any people who are satisfied? That is what I was wondering. So just leave you name and a message here if all works well, so I can be convinced to also try this new version myself.
[Edit]Hopefully this list will be long [/Edit]
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Do you plan on doing something with this data/poll/etc....
Or is this a venting thread
This is a developer's forum .... not tech support or customer service
The purpose of this forum is to develop
If you've been around these devices for a while, you'll know that factory ROMz are the worst. Page Pools are set low, they contain alot of unwanted bloatware for compaines to brand their devices and as a result of this, storage space is low.
These ROMz however, provide a base for devlopers to work with. These are the ROMz that 95% of us have on our devices. On that note, we should be thankful that ROMz are updated by manufacturers....beacuase, again it provides raw materials to work with.
Try joining a manufacturer or carrier forum where thoughts & concerns of the ROMz in question can be viewed by representatives of the manufacturers.
Rom behavior:
There's no such thing as a perfect ROM. Some work better than others. What works good for me on my device may not work for you....
Factory or Cooked
D W N Y +1
Development is the name of the game. Move the thread to Walala land
And no, you should not be fooled feling "happy" with a glimp of possibilities provided by HTC. Nice quote "raw materials".
(and believe me, I DO know how they "develop" @ HTC here. They still learn from our own chefs (from outside the mouth of the horse)
I am Glad to see the WWE Official version out now.
Now that the Official version is out I will wait for our resident cooks to make a good rom out of it. Since the first day I got the Tilt I Hard SPL'ed it and got rid of the AT&T bloat and flashed a Schaps rom. I did try the new WWE from HTC but had some problems with it but I didn't take the time to try a different radio. So I am sure with the correct radio it would have been better then the one it came with. Depending on where you live your carrier and the service offered in your area have a lot to do with what radio works best. At least that has been my experience. But the one thing I know that is I seem to prefer the cooked roms if they use an official base. So I will wait and hopefully Schaps will be releasing soon. Thats my 2 cents!
Ed...
happy user, but could be happier.
It's glad to see there are so many kind guys are making ROMs for Touch HD. But for an end use it is too time-consuming to flash all of these great ROMs to pick a proper one for him/her.
To assistant selecing a proper ROM for you, here is a simple/brief comparison of 7 Touch HD ROMs here (Google docs):
Now you can check almost all Touch HD ROMs' features in this new spreadsheet:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pw0YkbV43nsX7HipwXN8YWQ
Thanks to:
frogjaw2, Tito, Fallen Spartan
ROMs include WM 6.1 and 6.5, WWE and other languages, Cooked ROM, heavy ROMs etc.
ROMs:
Heavy ROMs
Laurentius26 Touching HD
Black Pearl
Dutty's HD XTREME
Pzucchel
Davideuck
EnergyROM
Davideuck_V-4_HP
Windows Mobile 6.5
taiseer999
Miri
Davideuck
MaryOne
Karmba_a HD
Chinese ROM
Cooked ROMs
Black Dragon's ROM
Black Dragon's ROM
CHO HTC released by taiseer999
Starbase64 UC
M-Amine Silver
DIB Touch HD
Stage6
Black Pearl
Mago
Live HD
Torliss HD
Pyrana
BlackCook
LPHD
i-Style Blackstone
EPS Black Rose II
Lite ROMs
a Touch of HD
Pzucchel
Black Pearl
Barebone
Lite ROM
Uzeb_Ultimate
Don't forget to select different tabs at the bottom of the spreadsheet.
Again, you can send private message or email to frogjaw2 if you'd like to contribute.
Updates from old to new:
[UPDATE 1]
bobsbbq is kind enought to share his work:
HTC_HD_ROM_Benchmarks_3_2009.zip
this is a cool and tech-savvy sheet full of ... (come on, download it and have a look )
A good start and I had the same idea but the problem is Forum rules state post with subjective material is a violation. By you stating folders are ugly to you it may not be to another person, therefore it is subjective.
Another suggestion is on the soft key menus state whether it is in only manila or system wide large menus.
I wish you luck in the thread remaining open.
bobsbbq said:
A good start and I had the same idea but the problem is Forum rules state post with subjective material is a violation. By you stating folders are ugly to you it may not be to another person, therefore it is subjective.
Another suggestion is on the soft key menus state whether it is in only manila or system wide large menus.
I wish you luck in the thread remaining open.
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Thanks for reminding. Sorry for my words. I've updated the spreadsheet.
And, if it states HTC large menu, it's all system wide.
It would be a disaster if this thread were to be closed - this is vital information for people new around here.
The only downside to things like this is that it is of course subjective, but that really isn't enough, in this case, to warrant closing the thread. This is a topic that I think about *every* time I see another release of a ROM, and frankly, I'm bloody sick of hard resetting my device just so I can try out the latest and greatest from people (currently poking around with the two 6.5 roms from Miri and Davideuch)
I really hope this thread stays open, and that the spreadsheet improves over time
In my opinion, there is a lot of non subjective information here.
Figures about speed would be really interesting, if this is somehow measurable.
resettarget said:
It's glad to see there are so many kind guys are making ROMs for Touch HD. But for an end use it is too time-consuming to flash all of these great ROMs to pick a proper one for him/her.
To assistant selecing a proper ROM for you, I made a simple/brief comparison of 7 Touch HD ROMs here (Google docs):
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=puhL_ng3RDqQ4KoAKOZeBcA
ROMs compared are:
. Energy
. Davideuck_V-4_HP
. Dutty
. Davideuck_V-7
. panosha Black Pearl
. Kwbr
. Uzeb
Please be noted:
. Latest versions I found are used.
. Only WWE Windows Mobile 6.1 ROMs are compared. Really I don't like WM 6.5
. This comparison is by no means really completed. I compared only the features I'm interested in. For example, I don't think there is great difference amony different CE OS kernel version, so I didn't compare them.
Hope helpful.
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Funny I was actually talking to bobsbbq last week about doing a thread similar to this with comparisons between roms I have tested including performance outputs etc
You beat me to it. If I can help in anything let me know
Just a note Dutty's icons are not customized, those are new HTC icons in the Start Menu. Dutty's roms are always the closest roms to Classic/ Stock Roms i've found.
Also Opera is included in Dutty's v2.6, Manila is not classic its the newest HTC build v2 (unless i don't understand what you mean by classic)
good comparison! well done.
there is one more feature i personaly find useful, is the facebook link. If "My Contact card" and contacts are linked with facebook. I am not sure if this feature is completely independent or if it is always in, when push internet is integrated.
I am sure that facebook link works in Dutty ROM, but is no integrated in Energy ROM.
qpasatio said:
In my opinion, there is a lot of non subjective information here.
Figures about speed would be really interesting, if this is somehow measurable.
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I agree... measurable specs would be more interesting... I know that Dutty for example publishes a lot of measurements of his ROMs on his site...
nice work
I like the spread sheet I was thinking about doing that, great job man
3g compatable
Thanks for the comparisions - great job. Another important inclusion in your charts could be whether the rom supports 3g.
I have installed several cooked roms from different people and have noticed that some do not support the 850 band I require for 3g coverage.
The latest roms I installed were Davidueks V4 and Duttys 2.6. Both very good roms and each has it advantages / disadvantages but I have stayed with Dutty as V4 does not enable the 3g which I require.
thanks for the spreadsheet.. might also be good to add in whether it is a GSM or 3G ROM as the Energy rom is gsm. cheers man!
go ahead
nice to have this kind of comparison. spare some extra flashing. would be nice to extend with more technical details like size of rom after flashing or figures of benchmarks etc. thanks for your great starting idea. i'm back to see your spreadsheet. i hope it will be migrated to stickyes soon when more people think it valuable.
Here is a spreadsheet I started on
resettarget said:
It's glad to see there are so many kind guys are making ROMs for Touch HD. But for an end use it is too time-consuming to flash all of these great ROMs to pick a proper one for him/her.
To assistant selecing a proper ROM for you, I made a simple/brief comparison of 7 Touch HD ROMs here (Google docs):
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=puhL_ng3RDqQ4KoAKOZeBcA
ROMs compared are:
. Energy
. Davideuck_V-4_HP
. Dutty
. Davideuck_V-7
. panosha Black Pearl
. Kwbr
. Uzeb
Please be noted:
. Latest versions I found are used.
. Only WWE Windows Mobile 6.1 ROMs are compared. Really I don't like WM 6.5
. This comparison is by no means really completed. I compared only the features I'm interested in. For example, I don't think there is great difference amony different CE OS kernel version, so I didn't compare them.
Hope helpful.
[UPDATED:]
I'm not a native-english speaker so by no means I'd like to be subjective. The word in western culture/english is a little difficult for me to fully understand.
I don't mean to attack or depreciate any ROM author who is thankful and deserve respect. Well the title had better to be something like 'cheat sheet' or 'feature briefing' which looks more friendly. I'm not sure whether 'comparison' is, sort of, aggresive. (looks like thread author can't change the thread's title ?)
How about sharing the doc with volunteers who'd like to update it?
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Here you go. A spreadsheet I started on. Graphs look good to the eye. I hope it helps you. I like to share
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Here you go. A spreadsheet I started on. Graphs look good to the eye. I hope it helps you. I like to share
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Excellent spreadsheet bobsbbq. Glad you shared!
Excellent......
Nice work people....hope we can keep it alive....
bobsbbq said:
Here you go. A spreadsheet I started on. Graphs look good to the eye. I hope it helps you. I like to share
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That's exactly what I had in mind... Awesome!
nice work
nice work, there should be more information included though.
naqvi514 said:
nice work, there should be more information included though.
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Can't just say that, otherwise pointless post. What other information would you like?...... and maybe we can add this to spreadsheets
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Can't just say that, otherwise pointless post. What other information would you like?...... and maybe we can add this to spreadsheets
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well something like
memory/storage consumtions etc.
and whether the rom is based on new or old manila, as it makes lot of difference when it comes to compare the features.
This thread is for people like me, who don't know what ROM to choose from a list of many ROMs from many great chefs.
I am keeping my poll options empty for the time being as I have only played with a few ROMs without any guidance. I will begin to populate them as I start to see a few specific ROMs appearing consistantly.
I would like to ask the community of xda-developers to come by and help populate this thread with simple comments
and/or recommendations on what ROM(s if you have multiple devices) you use on your Rhodium/Touch Pro 2/Tilt 2 device.
Also, please also add what kind of user your are, or how/why you use your phone with 'said' ROM.
Additionally beneficial would be letting users know what ROM you recently used prior to your recommendation and the offsets you experience in general.
ie. ROM A is the one I recommend. However, ROM B does a few things a bit better, although ROM A is the one I would recommend to people who like smooth, quick eyecandy filled ROMs.
I also ask for intelligent, constructive critique on what you think about the ROM that you are commenting upon.
No one needs to know about what piece of profanity you would like to tack on 'user A' for saying '10101' about 'ROM B' or vice-versa.
This is meant to be a resource for new users to xda-developers, like I was, and to new owners of the HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium, Windows Mobile phone.
Candidly, I would like to have the moderator's support in keeping this a clean thread to have an easier (and more pleasant) navigation throughout the thread.
I would like to start off with creating a list of ROMs organized by chef name and OS/TouchFlo 3D version.
Underneath each ROM and their links (I will either find the ROM myself, or if you can be so helpful enough to link it onto your post
within this thread), I will be adding the pros and cons that are mentioned here, and that I have found as well.
To let you know a bit about my bias, I am looking for the following items;
-Speed
--Not only operating speed, going from interface to interface, but also how it handles multitasking.
--I usually do these three together; GPS, music, web browsing/text messaging
-User Friendliness
--From first stepping into the ROM, to using it for a couple of days and seeing it's inevitable and understandable flaws and offsets.
--Customizing settings on the ROM, and the ease to have certain things.
-Miscellaneous
--Other things such as the way the ROM will handle things such as the
unsightly error of TouchFlo 3D 2.5 and it's lack of Landscape viewing ability.
--These items will account for my general accountability on the topic of
"Would I (highly) recommend to my friend, who may be the same as, or a completely different user than, me."
My history with phones;
I have first used Motorola phones, starting with the t220 (apparently one of the first camera phones) moving to the RAZR V6 MAXX
(quite a glam, nice looking phone with great features, but poor connectivity issues with network and bluetooth) and a few years ago
Sony Ericsson phones such as the W810, K850 and the Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1a.
Most recently;
I have late last year, used a BlackBerry BOLD 9000, and in the past 3 months, trialed the Sony Ericsson XPERIA.
Without much ROM customization, the stock ROM was fun to play with, but lacked the easy access and user interface speed that
I have become accustomed to with the BlackBerry BOLD 9000. However, in seeing the Touch Pro 2 and purchasing it, I can now fully indulge in customizing
it with ROMs to fit my needs, though I am still painfully without hardware keys to have quick access to my browser, music or GPS.
However, I suppose the full 5 row keyboard makes up for the lack of hardware buttons elsewhere on the body.
Currently, I am using my Touch Pro 2, mainly as a resource device. What do I mean by this? I am using it with a SIM Card that only has data services.
I have installed programs such as Japanese dictionaries, phrase banks and linguistic aids to help in my study of the Japanese language.
I also use this for school (I am currently in grade 11, high school) using this device as my quick access to the internet (even though I have my blackberry).
I suppose having new devices is an obsession for me, as with a few others on here.
I'm looking for ROMs that will allow me quick and easy access to the programs that I frequent the most such as my Japanese programs, GPS,
music, web browser, notes, M-Soft Word and also allow me to freely multitask with them.
I know that this is mainly hardware dependent, but I have learned that some ROMs take up less RAM space, as to free up some more coasting speed for programs to run on.
Posting Format
Please include the following;
Recommended ROM?
ROM used before recommended ROM?
Your network provider, phone (is it from/branded T-Mobile US, AT&T, Telstra, Sprint, TELUS)?
How/What do you use your phone? (Business, personal, school // As your main device, just as a (conference) phone, just as a mini internet tablet, etc...)
The pros & cons you noticed coming onto this ROM?
Who you think would benefit from using this ROM?
ADDITIONALLY;
I want to invite Chefs to either PM me, or post what (and who) they desire their ROM to be (for),
so that TP2/Rhodium users/owners can have a one-stop place to take a look at which ROM has what to offer (and to whom).
I will be adding the Chef's words beneath the ROM(s) they wish to comment upon.
The following post will before the ROM listings.
ROM Listings!
Chef NRGZ28
He builds his ROMs with four main goals.
* Eye candy
* Speed !!!
* Smoothness, consistency and good aesthetics
* Stability through private beta testing before public release
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★ EnergyROM "Leo" (Build 23016) [Updated Oct 7]
Runs Windows Mobile 6.5 WWE & TouchFlo 3D/Manila 2.5
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Comments;
-Stable
-Fast
-Good Looking
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Great for;
★ EnergyROM "Photon, formerly GENESIS" (BUILD?) [Updated Oct 7]
Runs Windows Mobile 6.5 WWE & TouchFlo 3D/Manila 2.1
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Comments;
-Bug-Free
-Great aesthetics
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Great for;
Chef Monx
"ONLY THE BEST FOR ALL XDA-DEV MEMBERS"
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ROMeOS³ v1.20 (Build 23016)
Runs Windows Mobile 6.5 WWE & TouchFlo 3D/Manila 2.5 + HTC SENSE (beta)
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Comments;
-Fun and easy to customize to personal tastes
-Works great "out of the box"
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Great for;
Chef b16b
AthineOS v2.0 OEM Style (Build 21054)
Runs Windows Mobile 6.1 & TouchFlo 3D/Manila 2.1
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Comments;
-Works great "out of the box"
-Very stock/OEM like ROM without all the carrier's unneccessary confectionery
-Easy to use, being that it is a simple ROM
-Quick and fast
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Great for;
-Those who are looking to keep their stock ROM without carrier branding or excessive programs
-Great for business users to retain that 'corporate' look
[MORE COMING]
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im so glad you have this up. i also have a hard time choosing.
pretty useless comment lol
You might be wasting your time since a mod most likely will close this thread...
How come?
If I'm making a bit too bias (on what I'm looking for) then I won't include my own opinion. That's fine.
But I want to have something like what the Kovsky/Sony Ericsson XPERIA forum has.
A ROM index, but enhanced with things such as recommendations, and owner/users & chef comments.
SleepiTyme said:
How come?
If I'm making a bit too bias (on what I'm looking for) then I won't include my own opinion. That's fine.
But I want to have something like what the Kovsky/Sony Ericsson XPERIA forum has.
A ROM index, but enhanced with things such as recommendations, and owner/users & chef comments.
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I am not sure why, the last few times someone asked which ROM was best the mods closed the thread. They claim it cuases flame wars and such.
Personally, I dont mind, like the idea and I was just giving you a heads up. Maybe you should ask a mod before your proceed further.
I would say this poll would avoid other threads like "what do you think is the best rom" or "can you advise me some rom"
So thumbs up
the best way to keep one thread like this is :
take one benchmark.. and test all the rom.. and post all result here
like topaz one
otherwise will locked soon
Benchmark?
"How does Benchmark?"
I think.. by emulating the ROM's speed and multitasking capabilities and such?
I want to know, not by computer, but by people why 'said' ROM is great.
Honestly, this is my story here;
I heard that ROMeOS's ROM for the Rhodium was great, although I had first saw Athine OS (both the light and Titanium builds with 2.1 and 2.5 Manila, 6.1 and 6.5 WinMo) and saw the pictures of the interface were just completely amazing.
So I downloaded them, but saw that they ran.. just the same as my stock ROM (at quite the same speed), though it was much cleaner than my Telstra stock ROM which was confuddled with many apps and things that I didn't need. And the light blue theme just didn't do it for me.
So then I just recently (actually last night) installed the ROMeOS ROM on my TP2 and found it so fun to have so much control upon things such as background wallpaper (both for lock screen and home screen tab). Also things such as backlighting, edit tabs, set up bluetooth, set up data, ringtones, message notifications ALMOST EVERYTHING customizable (that you would usually have to go in and out of menus for on the stock WWE ROM, and sometimes the Athine ROM) was located in one simple tab. Neigh, a simple section within a tab that had even more customization for other things on the phone.
THAT! That was most likely made this ROM popular, and it really did get into my good books quickly... until I found out that Manila 2.5 doesn't support Landscape.
I feel like I should either.. move onto another ROM, or just live with it.
I'm using Gyrator 2 along with my ROM, and it DID have the event action NOT to have auto rotate in Manila.. even though.. I want it to...
This above.. I'm looking for comments such as this, except from other, MORE experienced users with better opinions. Who hopefully can dumb it down so that people like me and many others, still fairly new to Windows Mobile, xda-developers and the HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium alike, can understand.
I believe.. that this should be something like a collaborative blog.
Just reading back up on my post right now, it's almost as if I were reading someone's story.
Many users might not want to go through that, and others may just want to write something to have their experience heard.
What I want to do is sift through all of that, and just have the comments, positive or negative, tacked onto each ROM in a list.
My ROMs Listing post.
Right by each description from each Chef.
Maybe it'll be reason enough for mods to keep this alive, maybe it won't be.
But... saving the effort of going through each ROM (there are about... 6-10, give or take 5^x) in which said thread for said ROM has 10+ pages of posts, usually around the vicinity of 30-50.
That is A LOT OF READING.
useless information
personally, this is useless information and i don"t go by polls. The best information is based on users" signature. I also take time to read, instead of relying on polls.
SleepiTyme said:
Benchmark?
"How does Benchmark?"
I think.. by emulating the ROM's speed and multitasking capabilities and such?
I want to know, not by computer, but by people why 'said' ROM is great.
Honestly, this is my story here;
I heard that ROMeOS's ROM for the Rhodium was great, although I had first saw Athine OS (both the light and Titanium builds with 2.1 and 2.5 Manila, 6.1 and 6.5 WinMo) and saw the pictures of the interface were just completely amazing.
So I downloaded them, but saw that they ran.. just the same as my stock ROM, though it was much cleaner than my Telstra stock ROM which was confuddled with many apps and things that I didn't need. And the light blue theme just didn't do it for me.
So then I just recently (actually last night) installed the ROMeOS ROM on my TP2 and found it so fun to have so much control upon things such as background wallpaper (both for lock screen and home screen tab). Also things such as backlighting, edit tabs, set up bluetooth, set up data, ringtones, message notifications ALMOST EVERYTHING customizable (that you would usually have to go in and out of menus for on the stock WWE ROM, and sometimes the Athine ROM) was located in one simple tab. Neigh, a simple section within a tab that had even more customization for other things on the phone.
THAT! That was most likely made this ROM popular, and it really did get into my good books quickly... until I found out that Manila 2.5 doesn't support Landscape.
I feel like I should either.. move onto another ROM, or just live with it.
I'm using Gyrator 2 along with my ROM, and it DID have the event action NOT to have auto rotate in Manila.. even though.. I want it to...
This above.. I'm looking for comments such as this, except from other, MORE experienced users with better opinions. Who hopefully can dumb it down so that people like me and many others, still fairly new to Windows Mobile, xda-developers and the HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium alike, can understand.
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How does one know which is best if they do not try them all? You mentioned two ROMs but have not mentioned the others. Can you give valid opinion on which you think is best without trying them all? Everyone has different tastes.
Those are just some of the things the mods may say and have said.
Like what I said, I don't mind a thread like this and wish there was a way to do this in a way that was more subjective.
Maybe there needs to be an official ROM judge
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Well that won't work either.
The only for you to know what ROM is best for you is to try them all until you find one that you like for yourself.
Ut0p1a said:
personally, this is useless information and i don"t go by polls. The best information is based on users" signature. I also take time to read, instead of relying on polls.
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Then.. maybe not polls?
What other way would be the best to;
1) save you time from reading a couple dozen to a couple hundred posts everytime you got a new device (though we're only talking about the Rhodium, and if you've read all those posts, I suppose you're a lost cause that I want to avoid being like, and want to help others avoid being as such as well)
2) Get you the accurate information on what are the highlights of the ROMs
2b) Without all the different ways that each chef sets up their forum posts to explain what their ROM does
2c) And have it all in one common format
3) Not many people post their ROMs on their signatures. I just saw it around as a growing
@At0mAng
Thank you for your opinion at this time of night.
Yes, did only mention (actually it was) three roms.
However, that is just only my input.
I've yet to trial the Miri ROM(s) and the Energy ROMs, just to name a few.
But mainly, I want simple, quick or concise comments on which ROMs a good/great and for what reason. Is it some part of the ROM? Does it perform better in the way that you've explained that you are using your TP2? Etc?
Yes.. everyone has different tastes, but they can mention what they like about 'said' ROM and help people become objective by the comments made here, and the quick pros and cons that have been tabulated onto the second post of this forum for quick reference as to which ROM does what best, or includes which great feature.
Edit;
This thread isn't here to decide Which ROM is the NUMBER ONE (for YOU)?!
It's to help guide newcomers to xda-developers, the HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium and Windows Mobile (all together) choose which ROM to pick.
I mean.. for new people, they have probably heard of ROMs, but don't know what to do with it.
What the heck is a HardSPL and flashing it?
Or, naturally after coming from the HardSPL resource sticky, one does suddenly freeze up and get stuck before spending 3-5 hours reading posts and choosing which ROM to pick and install, only to find out it doesn't really meet their requirements and move on to another one with a HUGE amount of wasted effort.
This here is to help people like that make more objective decisions, much quicker with the pros and cons of each ROM outlined and defined.
ROM Review template?
At0mAng said:
I am not sure why, the last few times someone asked which ROM was best the mods closed the thread. They claim it cuases flame wars and such.
Personally, I dont mind, like the idea and I was just giving you a heads up. Maybe you should ask a mod before your proceed further.
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Completely agree with At0mAng and I like this idea. I don't understand the fear of flame wars either. Just ban the people who start flaming and can't have a normal discussion.
As for this thread, maybe we could all post reviews of a ROM in a certain template. E.g. give grades for speed, apps, stability, eye candy, etc... Some people look for speed and clean ROMs, others just for the most fully apped ROMs. With a review template, you could have a quick overview of what a ROM performs best on and make your pick.
It's Right!
There is NO Best ROM !
Every Cooker has his "touch and taste" in his ROM...
I love to work with you all, guys...
All the cookers here are talented!
Work AS a TEAM get us a BETTER results!!
Continue all, in the great progress...
We will "knock out" HTC software at a glance...
TheAgent1982 said:
There is NO Best ROM !
Every Cooker has his "touch and taste" in his ROM...
I love to work with you all, guys...
All the cookers here are talented!
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It's not the point of this thread to find THE best ROM, but to find the most suitable ROM that fits your needs, at a glance...
Normally these threads are just closed as At0mAng said, but that would be unfair to the OP who's invested a fair old bit of time in this. It isn't the usual format and could be beneficial.
I've said before, that there isn't a forum rules preventing these threads, they are just closed because most of the people who create them are lazy noobs. If this threads is successful, then it "should" lead to less new threads.
I'm now subscribed and will monitor it, if it does degrade in to pretty much a Chef A vs Chef B thread, then I'll close it.
Thanks
Dave
Hi,
I'd like to take the opportunity to try to find a ROM which fits my needs: is there any Rom out there with WM 6.5, quicker than the stock ROM (if one can compare), with as few bugs as possible, still keeping Manilla 2.1 ? By the way, I am not interested in aesthetics, nor in software when the cab is available to install by myself. I only tested EnergyROM Genesis up to now, which is excellent, bug free as far as I can tell, but with many applications, very good aesthetics, maybe speed could improve with lighter graphics... Is there any quicker ROM here ?
On a side note, I find that the virtual keyboard of the TP2 is slow, e.g. changing from alpha to numeric takes too much time (then the first digit you type is ignored), does any ROM (or cab) improve this ?
Recommended ROM
I agree with the moderator that this poll (purely on the basis of statistics) is an interesting experiment and should not be stopped. It is vital though that people who vote have tested a significant number of the roms available.
I tested all the roms available on the 20-25 Sep period (7-8 of them) and I ended up using NRGZ28's Leo Manila 2.5 ROM as the most stable, fast, good looking. Essentially I encounter no bugs in every day use and I would recommend this rom to any TP2 user.
Disclaimer: This is my personal opinion and it's based on my experience for a few hours with each ROM, not into scientific facts or long-term testing. Since I'm quite new to these stuff, I may be wrong to several things.
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Hello everyone,
Last week I joined this community in order to upgrade my recently acquired TyTN II phone. I first tried Ahmedfikry's ROM that worked great for 6 days, but after some slowness/hanging issues (which I'm still unsure if it was ROM's fault), made me to try others as well. I've spent whole weekend, trying several cooked ROMs (especially recent ones), in order to find the most appropriate for me & my mobile device and I decided to share my test experience with you.
Hardware used
- HTC TyTN II
Software used
- Daveshaw HardSPL 3.34
- Kais Radio 1.70.19.09
Notes
- Further than removing mini-SD/SIM, I was installing stock ROM & performing hard reset (possibly unnecessary), before each ROM installation in order to avoid keeping configuration from previous ROM.
WM6.1 vs WM6.5
WM6.1 ROMs seem extremely fast & compatible but unfortunately I'm getting addicted to WM6.5 which has several improvements. If you need really stable and fast phone, stick with WM6.1. Otherwise, if you can sacrifice a bit of stability & performance.. for cool features, go for WM6.5. Additionally, it looks like some GPS navigation applications do not really like WM6.5 yet, so you may want to take that as consideration as well. Keep in mind that all ROMs may have their issues so I consider important author's willing to help people in forum.
Tested WM6.1 ROMs
- Shifu V20 M2D 2.0 [21055] [Full]: Fast interface, good applications
- Stylez Black v.5 D3D 101MB Manila 2.6 Theme [21051] [Full]: Fast interface, frequently updated, good applications, good & fast support from Stylez
Tested WM6.5 ROMs
- Ahmedfikry Tilt UC rom [23541] [Light]: Fastest WM6.5 ROM I've seen, frequently updated, good support by Ahmedfikry. I only faced some slowness issues at the 7th day but worths another chance (especially since a new build is out)
- Ahmedfikry Tilt UC rom [23544] [Light]: Just got released, I'm going to try it soon
- hoatienii's upload - PDAVIET.NET 3.34.721.4 - KAISER CE OS 5.2.21893 [21893]: Few applications (almost stock), but it's kinda laggy at my device
- Staxxtanium V03 [21891]: Nice skin & software, good applications, but it's VERY laggy at my device
- Staxxtanium V03 [23529]: Nice skin & software, good applications, but it's kinda laggy at my device
- Shifu V4.2 - RAM 101 - D3D - M2D [21854] [Full]: Fast interface, good & organized applications. M2D's landscape issue annoys me a bit.
Tested ROMs but not reviewed
- KaiserTouch' 21892, KaiserTouch's 23541 and esperOS 28205 builds installed fine, functioned fine but all of them had white screen instead of home screen. It might be something wrong on my side, as I didn't see others reporting it, so I believe it would unfair to review them yet. If I find the cause, I'll check them again later.
Finally, I'm between Shifu V4.2 & Ahmedfikry's light rom. I will probably try Ahmedfikry's once again, especially since he released a new build today and if problems re-appear, I'll go for Shifu. Android is also something I want to try in future (maybe next weekend). If you have any cooked *fast* and *good* WM6.5 WWE ROMs to suggest, please do!
Special thanks to all Chefs that have spent their valuable time to share their work into this community. If you have any comments, suggestions or even disagree with my opinion.. feel free to post. I didn't make this thread to judge cooked ROMs but mostly to share my opinion, so I'd appreciate if you also do the same.
PS: I like this community and I wonder if I'll start cooking some day as well, since I have some developing skills.
First of all, I will like to thank you for sharing your opinion It's quite interesting to know your personal observations regarding mostly of the roms.
My opinion to you, is that you probably didn't experience the fullness of some of the tested roms.
For example, from your info above you only tested a combination of Hard and radio...having this, probably it affected the perfomance of some roms and your opinion about them. The chefs try these roms for a lot of time and they test radio and hard combinations that most suit their roms.
Maybe you should need more time testing roms and update your thread constantly over the time, if you want to keep it interesting.
Additionally and my final comment, roms are made for different tastes and suits different needs for many people, that's why there are many out there. What I'm trying to say to you, is that what is best for you and it will not be the best for me. You can see in the specific threads of these many roms that many people says the rom is the best for them and for others isn't. Also you will experience it here.
Thanks and good luck
Hence the reason he put this in the post.
Disclaimer: This is my personal opinion and it's based on my experience for a few hours with each ROM, not into scientific facts or long-term testing. Since I'm quite new to these stuff, I may be wrong to several things.
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That was pretty cool of you to write this.
I'll definately be following this thread, as I am new to the world of ROM's as well. I've not tried a lot of radios with each ROM, and I've only tried out 3, though none of the ones the OP has tried. Maybe I will give them a shot as well. For me my priorities are a fast phone that I can use for system administration and looks good as well. I am currently running T.I.R. v 10k Angel ROM currently. It has a lot of the features I like, and is fairly responsive, but some of the customisations are not to my taste, and I've had to disable a couple things because of speed constraints.
I look forward to more reports. It does seem no matter what I choose, even the stock HTC ROM, my wifi is a bit buggy, has trouble connecting even when a few feet from the AP, with unobstructed line of sight. Oh well, might fix it when I replace the digitizer in a couple weeks. Phone was well used before I got my hands on it.
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I don't know how much of this is true, but a work colleague who has had years of experience with WiMo phones offered this tidbit:
A lot if the improvements in Windows Mobile 6.5 are HTC's customisations on 6.1. Microsoft and HTC built Windows Mobile 6.5 off the back of HTC's work on UI customisation and other changes. The keyboard in 6.5 is excellent, as is the haptic feedback.
I don't know what a naked 6.5 ROM looks like, as I haven't found one to try yet. All 6.5 ROM's will be slower compared to a 6.1 just because of the system requirements and all the extra fancy stuff 6.5 does.
Thank you all for reading this thread and special thanks to the people that replied. So far, I haven't tried any other ROMs as Ahmedfikry's has kept me very satisfied.
So the latest status based on my experience:
- Ahmedfikry Tilt UC rom [23544] [Light]: My mobile phone has been fully functional for the whole week, without even the need to reboot it. I had no problems while exchanging e-mails, using office applications, connecting via mobile internet/WiFi and playing games. I am going to try 23545 that I heard it's quite faster.
I'd love to hear opinions from other people for other ROMs as well. Come on guys, share your opinion. It's a general opinion thread after all. I'd prefer to post positive or negative xopinion about ROMs into a general thread than going to an author's thread and saying "your ROM is slow, this one is fast".
Hello all.
I'm on the hunt for a ROM. A very specific kind of ROM. Free from any HTC crap, no Sense, no TouchFlo, no Manilla. No Add-ons from the chefs. No edited icons laced with electric blue (Energy ROMs, I'm looking at you).
I found one, a ROM so perfect I was almost in shock, by Da_G. It's a 6.5.3.3 ROM, and it's exactly what I wanted. Almost. I can' get MMS support. Tried ArcSoft, didn't work. Posted a thread asking for help, didn't help me. GPS support is awfully slow, as well. No work has been done on it in a few months, and there's a few bugs as well. PMs offering cash for a few simple fixes have gone unanswered, so I'm here, asking for something very, very specific.
If there's a chef amongst you, who could take whatever the latest and greatest 6.5.5 build is, toss in the needed support for the hardware (camera, ambient light sensor, wifi, PTT button, etc), and that's it. No icon editing, no dumping all the start menu shortcuts into folders (I hate having to undo that), no taskbar skinning (or any skinning for that matter).
And not to knock on the ROMs already posted. The Leo Firestorm is one of my favorites, and the Energy ones have tones of options, but after I found Da_G's first one, it became obvious that's what I wanted.
If anyone out there feels like throwing me a bone, I'm sure I'm not the only one who use it.
Thanks all for your time, keep up the good work - I'll keep downloading it.
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hope you can find your perfect rom, but i will try this WM6.5_28205 【Da_G Clean ROM】
I was also tempted by Da_G Rom but did not flash it as I figured out that there would need some tweaking for a TP2 7373, and that it seems tha Da_G would not have time for a dayly support.
An alternative is Cosmik Debris, WM6.1, no manila, solid, very fast, excellent support from the developper, he even customizes application he does not need when other users ask. After flashing it I have realized that the upgrade from WM6.1 to 6.5 was not worth it, 6.5 is too slow with regards to 6.1.
The Rom thread is in my signature.
AyanamiZer00 said:
Hello all.
I'm on the hunt for a ROM. A very specific kind of ROM. Free from any HTC crap, no Sense, no TouchFlo, no Manilla. No Add-ons from the chefs.
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have you tried this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=674739
no mms support, but are you sure you need one? i mean come on, who does not have an email these days, and why not attach a picture to an email instead of an mms? traffic-wise it's the same amount of data anyhow.
as far as the latest build is concerned, you will simply NOT find a bug-free version, but the one i'm offering is pretty much stable, as it is based on official HTC rom.
AyanamiZer00 said:
Hello all.
No edited icons laced with electric blue (Energy ROMs, I'm looking at you).
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No need to put down someone else's work if you don't like it. People like you (that like bare bones ROMs) are few and far between. If you like a ROM like that, then just build yourself a ROM.. or use the perfect example posted above by Da_G.
Here ya go. Used to roll my own ROMs with various kitchens on my hermes. Doesn't take too long to learn, should be able to get exactly what you want out of it to boot.
I guess I should clarify a little bit.
First off, I'm not trying to talk down the Energy ROMs. You do great work with them, your customization just isn't my thing. Sorry, I didn't mean to offend.
Yeah, I know nothing is going to be bug free. There's just a couple odd ones that I can't seem to really work around - the accelerometer doesn't work in the texting app, and doesn't work well in general. =(
And yeah, I'm actually kind of big on MMS. I've only got one friend (my roommate actually) that has a smartphone, and can get email. I used to swap pictures all the time.
@ Aziraphale
I might try yours, but it takes a while to get all the settings back to normal, all my ringtones back on, all the stock pictures/wallpapers out, email set back up, etc. At some point I'll give it a shot.
@ Toleraen
I'll take a look through the threads you sent me to, but I somehow feel that building a ROM is waaaay over my head. Who knows though, so I won't give up before I try.
Thanks for the input everyone. I'd have replied sooner, but had to leave for some family business.
(And I do realize I'm in the minority for a bare-bones ROM. I'm always in the minority for what I want with my devices, it seems.)