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Is it just me...Please Answer this.

I have used 3 different roms and I have overclocked, etc. I had all these great cabs and stuff but when I got finished doing everything I went right back to the same old wm6.... I like it. I do want it to be faster and look better, etc. I guess what I want to know is what do you guys recommend as being the best and necessary cabs to put on the wing. Is it possible only I like wm6....

I think im in the same boat as you. I think the problem for me is that the software is not well integrated into the phone and it just becomes a huge clutter. Granted the cube and the pocketCM is cool but it just gets old..
Compared to this I previously had was the SPB Pocket Plus.
That home software was well integrated and very easy on the eyes.
Also, iv been tired of the bugs that I have with the cooked roms and its driving me nuts. lol No offense to the ROM cookers! Im just too lazy to fix them.

Even with all of the bugs in the ROMs they cook, it still works like 50 times better than the default T-Mobile ROM.

Not only that, the ROMs that are cooked, (and being cooked), are getting better, and well as the battery life too.

The main question you need to ask yourself is: What do you need? Why do you want it?
Do you want your phone to be a showoff? Or do you want some usefull apps?
Main reason that I cook in what I consider useless apps (to me) is that I know other ppl use it, and that the ones using the stuff I dont, start posring why removed that app, I would use your rom if this and that and so on
But I try to keep it to a minumum when cooking a "fully loaded" rom, I could add alot of more stuff, but why?
Im leaning more and more to less is better, but ofcourse, im cooking roms, and its sort off cool to "showoff" to my friends, witch only have nokias and sony ericsson and its like (useless phones )
But its no that cool anymore, my personal rom is quite small and have few apps, only the stuff I use.
cheers

Personally I havent found a rom that Im perfectly happy with. Ive used three of ITJE's roms and theyre great. But after a few days of use I find that things that I use on a daily basis are missing. So my decision was that I should start making my own. I decided that I was going to take the stock tmo, cut it back and add in the things that I want. That way I have the things that I need, more memory for the phone to play with. And the best thing of all is that Im happy.

Yeah I use Itje's roms and they are awesome. But as soon as another lite or superlite version comes out I'm flashing it right away. I like as little as possible on the roms I use so that I can just customize myself.

Wassona said:
Personally I havent found a rom that Im perfectly happy with. Ive used three of ITJE's roms and theyre great. But after a few days of use I find that things that I use on a daily basis are missing. So my decision was that I should start making my own. I decided that I was going to take the stock tmo, cut it back and add in the things that I want. That way I have the things that I need, more memory for the phone to play with. And the best thing of all is that Im happy.
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good 4 you

itje said:
The main question you need to ask yourself is: What do you need? Why do you want it?
Do you want your phone to be a showoff? Or do you want some usefull apps?
Main reason that I cook in what I consider useless apps (to me) is that I know other ppl use it, and that the ones using the stuff I dont, start posring why removed that app, I would use your rom if this and that and so on
But I try to keep it to a minumum when cooking a "fully loaded" rom, I could add alot of more stuff, but why?
Im leaning more and more to less is better, but ofcourse, im cooking roms, and its sort off cool to "showoff" to my friends, witch only have nokias and sony ericsson and its like (useless phones )
But its no that cool anymore, my personal rom is quite small and have few apps, only the stuff I use.
cheers
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I would be very interested to know what is in your personal ROM.

I think ITJE's Rom's are great and they basically fulfill my every need.
People are always going to complain about what they want on a rom ..etc.. Sure there are things I'd like taken out of roms and put into roms ...etc... but we aren't in a position to complain when these Roms are being provided to us free of charge after A LOT of hard work by ITJE and other rom cookers....
Everyone needs to Keep in mind, that all this "I want this, I want that" has to be very annoying to the rom cookers when they are donating their time and effort into making the roms... especially ITJE who doesn't even own a Wing .. so he has to put extra effort and time into making Wing roms, because he is unable to test them properly.
I'm interesting in looking into making roms (if I ever find the time) ... but for the moment, we should all just be thankful of what we have, that is FREE

duprade said:
I think ITJE's Rom's are great and they basically fulfill my every need.
People are always going to complain about what they want on a rom ..etc.. Sure there are things I'd like taken out of roms and put into roms ...etc... but we aren't in a position to complain when these Roms are being provided to us free of charge after A LOT of hard work by ITJE and other rom cookers....
Everyone needs to Keep in mind, that all this "I want this, I want that" has to be very annoying to the rom cookers when they are donating their time and effort into making the roms... especially ITJE who doesn't even own a Wing .. so he has to put extra effort and time into making Wing roms, because he is unable to test them properly.
I'm interesting in looking into making roms (if I ever find the time) ... but for the moment, we should all just be thankful of what we have, that is FREE
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Well said.

duprade said:
I think ITJE's Rom's are great and they basically fulfill my every need.
People are always going to complain about what they want on a rom ..etc.. Sure there are things I'd like taken out of roms and put into roms ...etc... but we aren't in a position to complain when these Roms are being provided to us free of charge after A LOT of hard work by ITJE and other rom cookers....
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I second that. Well said. And this is coming from a complainer about the missing Internet Sharing feature. I didn't blame ITJE for dropping this from the rom. Just wanted to find out how to put the darn thing back on. If I want it that bad I would just go back to the stock rom. I am still using the Lite rom and loving it. Waiting to put the last one on but you never know when ITJE will surprise us again.
He has enough warnings and caveats so it really is burner beware. You know what you are getting into.

itje said:
good 4 you
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Hey Itje,
Iv used your touchit 2.0 and 2.3 beta! I actually thought the 2.0 was more stable and bug free on my perticular phone. I actually kept 2.0 for a month! llol
Anyways, Is there a ROM which is just bone stock minus the TMOBILE customization? Or really Lite cooked rom? For the Wing ofcourse!
Thanks

I agree I like ITJEs ROMS as well... I think the less is better is more my style I am planning on cooking my own ROM in the near future. I am waiting to learn alot more first though. I don't want to get in over my head... I think that all the extra wares, plus bugs can kinda get to me.

Benefit to Diff Roms?

Hey guys im new here, just have a few questions. So i've been doing some reading on flashing different roms to the TyTn. Whats the advantage of this? I just got my ATT Tilt a few weeks ago and dont wanna mess it up. Is there a performance benefit? Call quality? Different features. I hear about people loading the default htc rom. Is this better in any way than the one that ships with att? Thanks in advance.

Hi, Welcome aboard.
Actually, by my own (short) experience, using a cooked ROM, can be synonymous of performance benefit, increased call quality, different features, different aspect, functionality and a lot more… I recommend you to read some more things about in the specific thread of a ROM and compare it to the features of your shipped ROM…
But, firs of all, DO NOT FORGET TO READ:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
cheers

Some of the new roms on here are such a big difference from the factory rom that you'll feel like you've got a new phone, others are closer to the stock roms. I know everyone is always a little wary the first couple times of flashing (and bricking) their $400 phone, but in reality it's actually pretty safe (just don't do anything dumb with your computer or phone while it's in the process). If you looked at the amount of flashing that goes on in this forum vs. the amount of cases where a phone gets actually gets bricked I'm sure the results would say that flashing is successful 99.9% of the time and the other 0.1% is most likely due to hardware or user error. Long story short, flash your phone to whatever Dutty's latest is and you won't be disappointed!

I guess ill have to give this a try. considering my phone locks up enough to annoy me and calls drop lol. oh and I can barely hear the person on the other side cuz the volume sounds just too low. Im coming from the blackbery curve to this, I never had a dropped call. hopefully a new rom will cure some of my troubles.

cdgtcc said:
I guess ill have to give this a try. considering my phone locks up enough to annoy me and calls drop lol. oh and I can barely hear the person on the other side cuz the volume sounds just too low. Im coming from the blackbery curve to this, I never had a dropped call. hopefully a new rom will cure some of my troubles.
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Please let me know which ROM you go with, and how you like it. I'm in a similar situation to you, I just bought mine. I had an HTC Wizard (Cingular 8125) before, and did a lot of flashing on that, but haven't tried on the Tilt since it came stock with WM6 anyway I didn't initially see the point. Now I'm starting to hear of a lot of people liking these ROMs better.

I'm running Dutty's latest and let me be the first to say it is great. I have no problems whatsoever. It's faster, easier to use plus with a ton of mods to make life easier all the way around.

P1Tater said:
I'm running Dutty's latest and let me be the first to say it is great. I have no problems whatsoever. It's faster, easier to use plus with a ton of mods to make life easier all the way around.
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Thanks! I'll have to try that out later on. It seems that one is the one everyone likes.

glad I could help.

Just to add another question, does anyone have any experience with different ROM "chefs?" I like Dutty's stuff so far, but I'm hearing things about a "Schaps" and some other chefs.
I'm not trying to pit them against each other (as I appreciate their contributions), but who's your favorite chef, and what is his/her best "dish?"

drokkon said:
Just to add another question, does anyone have any experience with different ROM "chefs?" I like Dutty's stuff so far, but I'm hearing things about a "Schaps" and some other chefs.
I'm not trying to pit them against each other (as I appreciate their contributions), but who's your favorite chef, and what is his/her best "dish?"
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i like schaps but i dont like the purple. other than that, no problems with it.
just a personal preference

I cant wait to start messing around with this stuff. Hopefully i stop dropping calls lol as well as gain performance.

Schaps makes good ROMs. But does not have a HTC phone so the support is not there. With the Kaiser i suggest a vanilla (clean) ROM and install the programs that you like to storage card. There is plenty of memory in this phone to do that you need.

Would you consider Dutty's "lite" ROMs to be "vanilla?" Or are you talking about stock ROMS?
Now I'm noticing that there's "XDA Live." Anyone want to explain that to me? Are there certain blokes on this forum who make "official" ROMs for this site?
Confused.

I'm running XDA-Live and it is most like the stock ATT ROM- Kyphur pretty much took the stock ATT ROM and stripped it bare, (vanilla ROM). Graphically it is not at all like Schaps/Dutty's etc. They are using the stock HTC ROM as a base with the huge clock and the HTC Home layout and icons. I personally don't like the visual layout of those ROMs and think that clock is taking up WAY to much valuable real estate. With XDA-Live you have alot of free storage and you can add anything back into it that you want. Really customizable.
Alemaker

Alemaker said:
I'm running XDA-Live and it is most like the stock ATT ROM- Kyphur pretty much took the stock ATT ROM and stripped it bare, (vanilla ROM). Graphically it is not at all like Schaps/Dutty's etc. They are using the stock HTC ROM as a base with the huge clock and the HTC Home layout and icons. I personally don't like the visual layout of those ROMs and think that clock is taking up WAY to much valuable real estate. With XDA-Live you have alot of free storage and you can add anything back into it that you want. Really customizable. Alemaker
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How about Custel or Q-Mobile or Sleuth or Alex? Maybe I'll just post a survey...

Is it possible to go back to the stock ATT ROM. Ive had it with dropping calls freezing. Time to flash this thing.

Stock ROM date
I love the ROMs being cooked up here on these forums.
However, before flashing any of the ROMs, I now believe a little research is important. For example, I bought a TyTn II just this week, and its stock ROM shows a date of Oct 29, 2007. Whereas the latest Dutty ROM from December 12 shows a base date of Aug 28, 2007. Thus important official changes from HTC could be lost by flashing to a ROM with an base date earlier than the officially released ROM.
Is there any place where ROM wizards post a ChangeLog in a sticky thread? There's all kinds of new ROM threads floating around, and it's hard for a noob to figure out which version of which ROM to use.

I actually loaded Dutty's latest rom, and my phone is extrememly stable right now. Havent dropped a call, calls have better quality and are louder. Phone moves much faster as well. VERY happy with my phone that i was about to use as a paperweight yesterday. lol.

What is Dutty's latest rom?? Never even heard of it lol link?

Clean ROM vs.Touch-IT wing 2.3

i am currently using touch-it for wing and it is running real good other then the fact that there is some small bugs but i can deal with it. I was wondering which is better and if i should switch it to Clean rom. Comaprison?

there are better people to respond to your question, but I will take a shot.
It totally depends on what you want. Touch-IT has a lot of programs which you may or may not use. You can look at the list of programs in the related thread and see if you actually need majority of those then you are better off installing Touch-IT. I haven't used the clean ROM yet so I can't speak of the spead and efficiency of the ROM, but I think ivan has removed many of the stuff which you don't normally use for the sake of memory/space. So if there is only a few programs you want to add on top of what is already included you are perhaps better off this way. While on the subject, you might want to check ttran's Open Touch ROM as well. It is pretty cool. I used version 1 and I was very happy with it. The second version is in the beta phase now but will be up soon, I guess .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351966

Best thing to do is to try it out. The clean ROM is really more of a base for my upcoming Kitchen and for people to cook in general with. It does have a good amount of free space and I think it performs really well... but then again, it's my baby. lol Try it out and tell me. I haven't really had anyone compare them, yet.
I'll be releasing a few more ROMs soon, but I've been busy with the holidays. I tend to not focus on one thing and take forever to get things done sometimes. Between the clean ROM, the Kitchen and my other ROMs, working on them at the same time gets confusing. lol

[POLL] What ROM would you recommend to people?

This thread is for people like me, who don't know what ROM to choose from a list of many ROMs from many great chefs.
I am keeping my poll options empty for the time being as I have only played with a few ROMs without any guidance. I will begin to populate them as I start to see a few specific ROMs appearing consistantly.
I would like to ask the community of xda-developers to come by and help populate this thread with simple comments
and/or recommendations on what ROM(s if you have multiple devices) you use on your Rhodium/Touch Pro 2/Tilt 2 device.
Also, please also add what kind of user your are, or how/why you use your phone with 'said' ROM.
Additionally beneficial would be letting users know what ROM you recently used prior to your recommendation and the offsets you experience in general.
ie. ROM A is the one I recommend. However, ROM B does a few things a bit better, although ROM A is the one I would recommend to people who like smooth, quick eyecandy filled ROMs.
I also ask for intelligent, constructive critique on what you think about the ROM that you are commenting upon.
No one needs to know about what piece of profanity you would like to tack on 'user A' for saying '10101' about 'ROM B' or vice-versa.
This is meant to be a resource for new users to xda-developers, like I was, and to new owners of the HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium, Windows Mobile phone.
Candidly, I would like to have the moderator's support in keeping this a clean thread to have an easier (and more pleasant) navigation throughout the thread.
I would like to start off with creating a list of ROMs organized by chef name and OS/TouchFlo 3D version.
Underneath each ROM and their links (I will either find the ROM myself, or if you can be so helpful enough to link it onto your post
within this thread), I will be adding the pros and cons that are mentioned here, and that I have found as well.
To let you know a bit about my bias, I am looking for the following items;
-Speed
--Not only operating speed, going from interface to interface, but also how it handles multitasking.
--I usually do these three together; GPS, music, web browsing/text messaging
-User Friendliness
--From first stepping into the ROM, to using it for a couple of days and seeing it's inevitable and understandable flaws and offsets.
--Customizing settings on the ROM, and the ease to have certain things.
-Miscellaneous
--Other things such as the way the ROM will handle things such as the
unsightly error of TouchFlo 3D 2.5 and it's lack of Landscape viewing ability.
--These items will account for my general accountability on the topic of
"Would I (highly) recommend to my friend, who may be the same as, or a completely different user than, me."​
My history with phones;
I have first used Motorola phones, starting with the t220 (apparently one of the first camera phones) moving to the RAZR V6 MAXX
(quite a glam, nice looking phone with great features, but poor connectivity issues with network and bluetooth) and a few years ago
Sony Ericsson phones such as the W810, K850 and the Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1a.
Most recently;
I have late last year, used a BlackBerry BOLD 9000, and in the past 3 months, trialed the Sony Ericsson XPERIA.
Without much ROM customization, the stock ROM was fun to play with, but lacked the easy access and user interface speed that
I have become accustomed to with the BlackBerry BOLD 9000. However, in seeing the Touch Pro 2 and purchasing it, I can now fully indulge in customizing
it with ROMs to fit my needs, though I am still painfully without hardware keys to have quick access to my browser, music or GPS.
However, I suppose the full 5 row keyboard makes up for the lack of hardware buttons elsewhere on the body.
Currently, I am using my Touch Pro 2, mainly as a resource device. What do I mean by this? I am using it with a SIM Card that only has data services.
I have installed programs such as Japanese dictionaries, phrase banks and linguistic aids to help in my study of the Japanese language.
I also use this for school (I am currently in grade 11, high school) using this device as my quick access to the internet (even though I have my blackberry).
I suppose having new devices is an obsession for me, as with a few others on here.
I'm looking for ROMs that will allow me quick and easy access to the programs that I frequent the most such as my Japanese programs, GPS,
music, web browser, notes, M-Soft Word and also allow me to freely multitask with them.
I know that this is mainly hardware dependent, but I have learned that some ROMs take up less RAM space, as to free up some more coasting speed for programs to run on.
Posting Format​​
Please include the following;
Recommended ROM?
ROM used before recommended ROM?
Your network provider, phone (is it from/branded T-Mobile US, AT&T, Telstra, Sprint, TELUS)?
How/What do you use your phone? (Business, personal, school // As your main device, just as a (conference) phone, just as a mini internet tablet, etc...)
The pros & cons you noticed coming onto this ROM?
Who you think would benefit from using this ROM?
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ADDITIONALLY;
I want to invite Chefs to either PM me, or post what (and who) they desire their ROM to be (for),
so that TP2/Rhodium users/owners can have a one-stop place to take a look at which ROM has what to offer (and to whom).
I will be adding the Chef's words beneath the ROM(s) they wish to comment upon.
The following post will before the ROM listings.​

ROM Listings!
Chef NRGZ28
He builds his ROMs with four main goals.
* Eye candy
* Speed !!!
* Smoothness, consistency and good aesthetics
* Stability through private beta testing before public release
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★ EnergyROM "Leo" (Build 23016) [Updated Oct 7]
Runs Windows Mobile 6.5 WWE & TouchFlo 3D/Manila 2.5
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Comments;
-Stable
-Fast
-Good Looking
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Great for;
★ EnergyROM "Photon, formerly GENESIS" (BUILD?) [Updated Oct 7]
Runs Windows Mobile 6.5 WWE & TouchFlo 3D/Manila 2.1
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Comments;
-Bug-Free
-Great aesthetics
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Great for;
Chef Monx
"ONLY THE BEST FOR ALL XDA-DEV MEMBERS"
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ROMeOS³ v1.20 (Build 23016)
Runs Windows Mobile 6.5 WWE & TouchFlo 3D/Manila 2.5 + HTC SENSE (beta)
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Comments;
-Fun and easy to customize to personal tastes
-Works great "out of the box"
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Great for;
Chef b16b
AthineOS v2.0 OEM Style (Build 21054)
Runs Windows Mobile 6.1 & TouchFlo 3D/Manila 2.1
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Comments;
-Works great "out of the box"
-Very stock/OEM like ROM without all the carrier's unneccessary confectionery
-Easy to use, being that it is a simple ROM
-Quick and fast
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Great for;
-Those who are looking to keep their stock ROM without carrier branding or excessive programs
-Great for business users to retain that 'corporate' look
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im so glad you have this up. i also have a hard time choosing.
pretty useless comment lol

You might be wasting your time since a mod most likely will close this thread...

How come?
If I'm making a bit too bias (on what I'm looking for) then I won't include my own opinion. That's fine.
But I want to have something like what the Kovsky/Sony Ericsson XPERIA forum has.
A ROM index, but enhanced with things such as recommendations, and owner/users & chef comments.

SleepiTyme said:
How come?
If I'm making a bit too bias (on what I'm looking for) then I won't include my own opinion. That's fine.
But I want to have something like what the Kovsky/Sony Ericsson XPERIA forum has.
A ROM index, but enhanced with things such as recommendations, and owner/users & chef comments.
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I am not sure why, the last few times someone asked which ROM was best the mods closed the thread. They claim it cuases flame wars and such.
Personally, I dont mind, like the idea and I was just giving you a heads up. Maybe you should ask a mod before your proceed further.

I would say this poll would avoid other threads like "what do you think is the best rom" or "can you advise me some rom"
So thumbs up

the best way to keep one thread like this is :
take one benchmark.. and test all the rom.. and post all result here
like topaz one
otherwise will locked soon

Benchmark?
"How does Benchmark?"
I think.. by emulating the ROM's speed and multitasking capabilities and such?
I want to know, not by computer, but by people why 'said' ROM is great.
Honestly, this is my story here;
I heard that ROMeOS's ROM for the Rhodium was great, although I had first saw Athine OS (both the light and Titanium builds with 2.1 and 2.5 Manila, 6.1 and 6.5 WinMo) and saw the pictures of the interface were just completely amazing.
So I downloaded them, but saw that they ran.. just the same as my stock ROM (at quite the same speed), though it was much cleaner than my Telstra stock ROM which was confuddled with many apps and things that I didn't need. And the light blue theme just didn't do it for me.
So then I just recently (actually last night) installed the ROMeOS ROM on my TP2 and found it so fun to have so much control upon things such as background wallpaper (both for lock screen and home screen tab). Also things such as backlighting, edit tabs, set up bluetooth, set up data, ringtones, message notifications ALMOST EVERYTHING customizable (that you would usually have to go in and out of menus for on the stock WWE ROM, and sometimes the Athine ROM) was located in one simple tab. Neigh, a simple section within a tab that had even more customization for other things on the phone.
THAT! That was most likely made this ROM popular, and it really did get into my good books quickly... until I found out that Manila 2.5 doesn't support Landscape.
I feel like I should either.. move onto another ROM, or just live with it.
I'm using Gyrator 2 along with my ROM, and it DID have the event action NOT to have auto rotate in Manila.. even though.. I want it to...
This above.. I'm looking for comments such as this, except from other, MORE experienced users with better opinions. Who hopefully can dumb it down so that people like me and many others, still fairly new to Windows Mobile, xda-developers and the HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium alike, can understand.
I believe.. that this should be something like a collaborative blog.
Just reading back up on my post right now, it's almost as if I were reading someone's story.
Many users might not want to go through that, and others may just want to write something to have their experience heard.
What I want to do is sift through all of that, and just have the comments, positive or negative, tacked onto each ROM in a list.
My ROMs Listing post.
Right by each description from each Chef.
Maybe it'll be reason enough for mods to keep this alive, maybe it won't be.
But... saving the effort of going through each ROM (there are about... 6-10, give or take 5^x) in which said thread for said ROM has 10+ pages of posts, usually around the vicinity of 30-50.
That is A LOT OF READING.

useless information
personally, this is useless information and i don"t go by polls. The best information is based on users" signature. I also take time to read, instead of relying on polls.

SleepiTyme said:
Benchmark?
"How does Benchmark?"
I think.. by emulating the ROM's speed and multitasking capabilities and such?
I want to know, not by computer, but by people why 'said' ROM is great.
Honestly, this is my story here;
I heard that ROMeOS's ROM for the Rhodium was great, although I had first saw Athine OS (both the light and Titanium builds with 2.1 and 2.5 Manila, 6.1 and 6.5 WinMo) and saw the pictures of the interface were just completely amazing.
So I downloaded them, but saw that they ran.. just the same as my stock ROM, though it was much cleaner than my Telstra stock ROM which was confuddled with many apps and things that I didn't need. And the light blue theme just didn't do it for me.
So then I just recently (actually last night) installed the ROMeOS ROM on my TP2 and found it so fun to have so much control upon things such as background wallpaper (both for lock screen and home screen tab). Also things such as backlighting, edit tabs, set up bluetooth, set up data, ringtones, message notifications ALMOST EVERYTHING customizable (that you would usually have to go in and out of menus for on the stock WWE ROM, and sometimes the Athine ROM) was located in one simple tab. Neigh, a simple section within a tab that had even more customization for other things on the phone.
THAT! That was most likely made this ROM popular, and it really did get into my good books quickly... until I found out that Manila 2.5 doesn't support Landscape.
I feel like I should either.. move onto another ROM, or just live with it.
I'm using Gyrator 2 along with my ROM, and it DID have the event action NOT to have auto rotate in Manila.. even though.. I want it to...
This above.. I'm looking for comments such as this, except from other, MORE experienced users with better opinions. Who hopefully can dumb it down so that people like me and many others, still fairly new to Windows Mobile, xda-developers and the HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium alike, can understand.
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How does one know which is best if they do not try them all? You mentioned two ROMs but have not mentioned the others. Can you give valid opinion on which you think is best without trying them all? Everyone has different tastes.
Those are just some of the things the mods may say and have said.
Like what I said, I don't mind a thread like this and wish there was a way to do this in a way that was more subjective.
Maybe there needs to be an official ROM judge
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Well that won't work either.
The only for you to know what ROM is best for you is to try them all until you find one that you like for yourself.

Ut0p1a said:
personally, this is useless information and i don"t go by polls. The best information is based on users" signature. I also take time to read, instead of relying on polls.
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Then.. maybe not polls?
What other way would be the best to;
1) save you time from reading a couple dozen to a couple hundred posts everytime you got a new device (though we're only talking about the Rhodium, and if you've read all those posts, I suppose you're a lost cause that I want to avoid being like, and want to help others avoid being as such as well)
2) Get you the accurate information on what are the highlights of the ROMs
2b) Without all the different ways that each chef sets up their forum posts to explain what their ROM does
2c) And have it all in one common format
3) Not many people post their ROMs on their signatures. I just saw it around as a growing
@At0mAng
Thank you for your opinion at this time of night.
Yes, did only mention (actually it was) three roms.
However, that is just only my input.
I've yet to trial the Miri ROM(s) and the Energy ROMs, just to name a few.
But mainly, I want simple, quick or concise comments on which ROMs a good/great and for what reason. Is it some part of the ROM? Does it perform better in the way that you've explained that you are using your TP2? Etc?
Yes.. everyone has different tastes, but they can mention what they like about 'said' ROM and help people become objective by the comments made here, and the quick pros and cons that have been tabulated onto the second post of this forum for quick reference as to which ROM does what best, or includes which great feature.
Edit;
This thread isn't here to decide Which ROM is the NUMBER ONE (for YOU)?!
It's to help guide newcomers to xda-developers, the HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium and Windows Mobile (all together) choose which ROM to pick.
I mean.. for new people, they have probably heard of ROMs, but don't know what to do with it.
What the heck is a HardSPL and flashing it?
Or, naturally after coming from the HardSPL resource sticky, one does suddenly freeze up and get stuck before spending 3-5 hours reading posts and choosing which ROM to pick and install, only to find out it doesn't really meet their requirements and move on to another one with a HUGE amount of wasted effort.
This here is to help people like that make more objective decisions, much quicker with the pros and cons of each ROM outlined and defined.

ROM Review template?
At0mAng said:
I am not sure why, the last few times someone asked which ROM was best the mods closed the thread. They claim it cuases flame wars and such.
Personally, I dont mind, like the idea and I was just giving you a heads up. Maybe you should ask a mod before your proceed further.
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Completely agree with At0mAng and I like this idea. I don't understand the fear of flame wars either. Just ban the people who start flaming and can't have a normal discussion.
As for this thread, maybe we could all post reviews of a ROM in a certain template. E.g. give grades for speed, apps, stability, eye candy, etc... Some people look for speed and clean ROMs, others just for the most fully apped ROMs. With a review template, you could have a quick overview of what a ROM performs best on and make your pick.

It's Right!
There is NO Best ROM !
Every Cooker has his "touch and taste" in his ROM...
I love to work with you all, guys...
All the cookers here are talented!
Work AS a TEAM get us a BETTER results!!
Continue all, in the great progress...
We will "knock out" HTC software at a glance...

TheAgent1982 said:
There is NO Best ROM !
Every Cooker has his "touch and taste" in his ROM...
I love to work with you all, guys...
All the cookers here are talented!
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It's not the point of this thread to find THE best ROM, but to find the most suitable ROM that fits your needs, at a glance...

Normally these threads are just closed as At0mAng said, but that would be unfair to the OP who's invested a fair old bit of time in this. It isn't the usual format and could be beneficial.
I've said before, that there isn't a forum rules preventing these threads, they are just closed because most of the people who create them are lazy noobs. If this threads is successful, then it "should" lead to less new threads.
I'm now subscribed and will monitor it, if it does degrade in to pretty much a Chef A vs Chef B thread, then I'll close it.
Thanks
Dave

Hi,
I'd like to take the opportunity to try to find a ROM which fits my needs: is there any Rom out there with WM 6.5, quicker than the stock ROM (if one can compare), with as few bugs as possible, still keeping Manilla 2.1 ? By the way, I am not interested in aesthetics, nor in software when the cab is available to install by myself. I only tested EnergyROM Genesis up to now, which is excellent, bug free as far as I can tell, but with many applications, very good aesthetics, maybe speed could improve with lighter graphics... Is there any quicker ROM here ?
On a side note, I find that the virtual keyboard of the TP2 is slow, e.g. changing from alpha to numeric takes too much time (then the first digit you type is ignored), does any ROM (or cab) improve this ?

Recommended ROM
I agree with the moderator that this poll (purely on the basis of statistics) is an interesting experiment and should not be stopped. It is vital though that people who vote have tested a significant number of the roms available.
I tested all the roms available on the 20-25 Sep period (7-8 of them) and I ended up using NRGZ28's Leo Manila 2.5 ROM as the most stable, fast, good looking. Essentially I encounter no bugs in every day use and I would recommend this rom to any TP2 user.

Question from a noob.

Hi all, I have had a search around and cant find the answer to my question. I expect to get flamed, but here goes.
Having access to all the great roms here, I still dont know which to go for. Many have asked the same thing, but the answer is always the same try them out for yourself. I appreciate the hard work that goes into cooking the roms (or maybe I dont as I would never attempt it) and no one wants to say which is better, but to those of us who are either noobs or just want an improved kaiser the time involved trying them all out can be prohibitive.
I would love to have a new rom that does what I want and then to be able to donate to the chef for the work they put in to developing it. I use my phone so much I really cant be bothered saving data/programs and then re-stalling them until I find a rom that suits. I appreciate the problems that everyones needs are different, but are they so different? Full of features, reliable, fast as poss and looks good, this may describe most roms but I dont know without trying them all or be told which people prefer. If a chef knows that most people dont want a particular feature but definately want another they can see by the downloads which rom is the most popular. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery (coupled with innovation).
I have an unlocked orange UK, WM6, rom 1.81.61.2 WWE (dated 09/20/07), Radio 1.27.14.32, but really dont know what would be the best feature rich, fast, best looking, impressive rom.
I stand ready to be charred

Just randomly install one..
That is your answer.

There is no straight jacket answer because truth is like a diamond. did you get it my friend..

So if I happen to install one that Im not happy with, I may think "oh is that the best on offer, I wont bother again". Im afraid it seems like everyone has to re-invent the wheel in trying a rom out.
Have you installed a rom and then thought wow what a load of rubbish? If people dont know then more will have the same experience, just trying to avoid that. Dare I say that the cooking of roms is not my main interest, but appreciate that it is to others and also appreciate the work that goes into them. Am I being selfish in wanting something that is stable with as I said lots of features etc? Probably, but the same can be said about anything if your not an expert.
Im not trying to be a pain just want some advice to save a lot of time and messing about

Can't give you more info than others as it's all a flash try if don't like flash something different.
If don't have the time to do this the best bet is just to stay stock.
We all install ROMs once in a while don't find it fits our needs yet the one thing we know is that it takes the flasher about 10mins to flash then an hour to play compared to the average ROM taking days to build with having to flash @ every change...

Hey
No need to fear as I was also the same like you when I joined XDA, it is overwhelming seeing the number of custom ROMS out there as well as the extreme amount of information on XDA itself. But after a while you get used to it and draw a simple conclusion, you simply cannot absorb it ALL unless you dedicate your entire life to it.
However you can slowly learn the ropes about the ROMS and proceed.
To answer your question: at the moment it seems like the WM 6.5 roms are the best looking, most feature rich and quite quick to boot, however to me they seem to a bit more unstable and open to flaws than the WM 6.1 roms which have the benefit of being cooked for longer and thus have had the number for bugs reduced. I have used two 6.5 ROMs and have not been able to get them to work with complete functionality I require. So I've decided to wait a while.
So to start of with you should probably find one of the popular WM 6.1 roms (just sort the rom forum by views or replies and you're bound to see whats popular) and flash that to your phone. I am currently using Sakajati's Hyperdragon IV and it is awesome and stable, but you can look around as there is no guarantee that that will work as excellently for you as it has for me. However by using the 6.1 rom I have learnt a fair bit also with the help of the XDA forums and search function. I am now competent enough to solve issues that arise from newer buggier roms etc.
So yeah as the previous guys have mentioned, its trial and error to a certain extent. What works for me may not work for you and it is best to start of with something a bit more stable in favour of features etc. In addition once you find out about the best applications to enhance the phone and use it in conjunction with the cooked ROMs they become even better. I for example am using the 6.1 ROM with SPB Mobile shell which really makes the phone IMHO so awesome that I don't feel the need to move over to a 6.5 rom as everything on my phone works and it provides me with the perfect and efficient functionality that I require.
In the end if you can't land on a custom ROM to your liking, don't give up there might be one out there that works, it just takes patience and a bit of work.

Thanks for the replies, fishzn appreciate the advice, tried looking for the hyperdragon rom but appears to have been taken off. Not sure where to get it from? Tried the authors site, but log in problems seem to be affecting many there.
Thanks again.

Here is the thread on sakajati's forums with the download links for the ROM, you need to register on that forum to download. Don't know about the login problems though, my account is logged in with no issues really. Anyway YGPM

i have gone back to a 6.1 rom having tried several 6.1s before then a few 6.5s.
i found the 6.1 more reliable and stable (never got messages working properly on 6.5). i avoid the lite/fast ones also now as i didnt really notice any speed increase but did notice that i was forever looking for cabs to add back in what was missing. i have a 8gb card loaded with apps and expect them all to work.
just give one a go. you get a feel pretty quick for how it runs you own stuff.
use a good backup program (i use spb backup) and keep a full copy (or 2) on a pc of your sd card.
WARNING: changing roms is very addictive, it will take away your free time (but it is fun)

Stop being a little girl (unless you are one) and jump in..
Each rom has a thread and in that thread people talk about it. Read or jump in head first, either way you could have found the rom of your dreams by now..