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Disable USB charging

Anyone has any idea why do we need to turn on "disable usb charging" ?
Settings -> Power -> Advanced
[ x ] When device is turned on, do not charge the battery when connected to the PC
In what situation?
One thing that I can think of ... is to preserve the battery to have a good condition by only charging if you have "enough time". That means, to charge until 100% and beyond.
Any more valid / good reason?
Thanks.

gogol said:
Anyone has any idea why do we need to turn on "disable usb charging" ?
Settings -> Power -> Advanced
[ x ] When device is turned on, do not charge the battery when connected to the PC
In what situation?
One thing that I can think of ... is to preserve the battery to have a good condition by only charging if you have "enough time". That means, to charge until 100% and beyond.
Any more valid / good reason?
Thanks.
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In my case, i thin is better to make three or four completes cycles of charge/discharge, so for the moment i use this option to prevent charging while i connect to PC to install or trasfer something....after complete discharge, i charge full...
Regards.

Hi,
It's probably to preserve Laptop/Notebook battery when on the go...

alexxo said:
Hi,
It's probably to preserve Laptop/Notebook battery when on the go...
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Yes, this is another one.... i don't have a laptop so i don't think in it

I reckon its so you can plug it into a unpowered USB hub which is near its limit of how much power it can supply...
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i think it might have something to do with the amps/volts, i'm not a scientist as you could already tell, but i do know that you shouldn't use a motorola charger to charge an htc product. i used a razr charger to charge my dash once and it killed the battery pretty well. so i figure you shouldnt use a non-approved charger to charge your device, be it via laptop or any other charger that didnt come in the box

My bet is that this is about battery life. I think that these batteries do best (live longest) if they go through complete charge-discharge cycles at least every 30 days.
I plug my TyTn into my computer when I am in the office and, unlike ACtiveSync, the charge always works!

I vote for the portable use theory as well, so you don't drain the battery on a laptop or unpowered hub that can't supply the additional current.

RemE said:
I vote for the portable use theory as well, so you don't drain the battery on a laptop or unpowered hub that can't supply the additional current.
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I'm with you on this one. Current gen batteries don't need to be cycled so much for optimal performance. However, charging your phone via USB will drain your PC's battery more quickly if you are on the go.

The Kaiser draws a lot of current. Even when charging by USB I have seen the battery level dropping.
I have seen quite frequently USB ports being disabled due to too high current draw, making the connection unstable. If this was a problem this option would prevent it.
Surur

quite a few posts here about li-ion batteries and how best to look after them:
http://www.modaco.com/Warning-Battery-Chargin-t233233.html

That's good stuff especially the Wiki on them. I use a lot of lithiums at work and play. Bottom line, don't run them flat, ever, that's the only thing that will ruin them quickly. Most devices have protection circuitry to prevent this by shutting down. When you get to this point the battery should be charged ASAP because the small amount of drainage in the device will take the battery past the critical low point if left in this very low state for any length of time (say more than a few days).
Cycling really doesn't do much for lithiums, their total capacity decreases from date of manufacture slowly over time, weather you use them alot or not. This is unlike other batteries.
Best storage state for lithiums is 50%, not full. But in a phone, best rule is to just top them up whenever possible, plus you never know when you are going to get that marathon phone call

As a few others have alluded to, this is used when you're tethering on the go. WM5 / 8525 doesn't have this switch, so when tethering via USB on the 8525, it will literally suck the life out of my laptop battery.
Glad to hear that this switch was added in WM6 / Kaiser.

The best battery information I found is here: http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
Summary (for li-ion batteries, as in Kaiser):
1. Avoid full discharge; partial discharge/charge cycle is better. However, a full charge/discharge cycle once every 30 times is useful to keep battery gauge calibrated correctly (doesn't really help longevity, but prevents erroneous gauge from forcing early retirement of the battery).
2. Avoid prolonged storage at full charge and/or high heat (optimal charge is ~40%).
3. Avoid high rates of charge or discharge. Presumably the charge rate is already set at an acceptable rate by the manufacturer; as for discharge, it probably can't be helped if you need to run some ultra-high load applications on the phone. One thing this confirms: it is good to charge the battery using the USB; the possibly lower voltage available during the USB charge is helping, not hurting, the battery. So definitely, the "do not charge when plugged in" option is only to save your laptop battery, not to help the phone battery.

As said already in this thread, its so you can connect to a non-powered usb hub or a laptop usb port that can't supply enough.
WM devices normally detect supplied power and go into charge mode before they are polled by the PC/Laptop via Activesync for data transfer. If the charge system pulls the port down then data transfer is disrupted.

When tethered to a laptop and the laptop is running on battery, you may want to disable charging to conserve the laptop's battery.

This is the answer I got from batteries4less where I bought a replacement battery for my 8525.
You should generally charge your battery every night. It is not good to do
it continually during the day. It will wear it down faster. Thank you
Alix Kane
CBW Customer Service Rep.
Cellphone Battery Warehouse
www.batteries4less.com
1800-300-9993
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By the way.....shameless plug: I ordered a battery late on thursday afternoon and received my replacement battery on saturday and installed it in the phone. On monday I bought the Tilt 8925 and then emailed that I bought a new phone and asked them if I could exchange it for a Tilt 8925 battery and the next email I received from them about an hour or so later said the new battery was on the way and to send the 8525 battery back in that package.
These guys will get my battery business from now on.

Years ago i had a t-mobile dash also known as an htc excalibur, and i would use it to tether to my computer for 6 to 8 hours a day as a high speed modem and low and behold, it burnt out the battery. I bought a new battery and switched to Kaiser OS that had an option to disable usb charging and never had a problem after that... Now if you only connect to a computer to transfer a few files back and forth every onle in a while then there probably wont be a problem because that is not going to drain your battery very fast so it will only charge every once in a while and that is ok. But when you tether to a computer to use your phone as a high speed modem it takes ALOT of battery power. I saw a post in a different thread here on xda that said that when your battery reaches 100% that it stops charging. Yes that is correct. But even though the battery will stop charging at 100%. As soon as it drops 5 or 10 % is starts charging again and when you tether your phone as a modem it will drop 5 or 10% within minutes so your phone will basically be charging nonstop which is defiantly not good for a battery and that my friends is what the disable usb charging is for.
Just as an added statement for those of you that disagree with what i have said. Try it yourself and see what happens. Tether your phone to your computer as a modem and surf the net, and play games, and download stuff for 6 or more hours a day. I bet in just a few weeks or months you will be replacing your battery too.

Reason to turn off phone charging when connected to PC
I installed "Syncois iOS & Android Manager FREE" to back up my Android phone data to my PC. The program would not work if my phone was charging when connected to my PC, it told me. So, I had to turn that charging option off. Outside of that, I will always have my phone charge when connected to my PC. Hope this helps!

Kaiser stops charging with HSDPA when it overheats (+)

Ok, I've been trying to get to the bottom of this problem for a long time.
I've got unilimited HSDPA GPRS on my Tilt, so I tether to my laptop. Kaiser is connected through a 1Amp powered USB hub to a laptop. Tilt was just lying on the desk, and I noticed several interesting things:
1. If Kaiser is at 100% charge - the green light (power) will stay on for a long time, about 40-60 minutes.
2. If Kaiser is NOT at 100% charge, it will charge (orange light) but won't reach 100%. It will stop charging in about 20-30 minutes.
3. If I put Kaiser on a cup, so that there's nothing under it and air moves freely all the way around the Kaiser - I get around 40-60 minutes of charging even when battery is less than 100%. If it is 100%, I can get up to 1.5 hours or so.
4. Whenether it stops charging - I notice that the back of Kaiser gets pretty high.
5. Every 40-60 minutes the charging light comes on again and charges for about 10-20 minutes (gives couple % to battery), then comes off again.
6. BatteryStatus app shows:
6.1 When charge light is ON: + some MAh, don't remember exact number, but it's like 10 or 20.. very low charge
6.2 When charge light is OFF: full battery drain, -400 or somewhere around there (can't remember). It seems that power flow through USB port just stops, disconnects.
7. I see same results when using car charger and stock AC power adapter.
8. Traffic definitelly affects it. If I just have HSDPA on and not using it - it charges fine, it seems. When I start using up the traffic (download files, watch TV, etc) it starts to heat up and stops charging after some time.
It seems to me that the problem with Kaiser stopping to charge when using HSDPA is caused by heat. There must be something on the hardware that turns off charging if the processor/MB/hardware is overheating. I guess charging the battery generates more heat than using the battery, or why else would it turn off charging when overheating?
Just thought that this, perhaps, would be interesting to some developers or people who have the same problem. Maybe someone can put Kaiser in front of a good fan and see what kind of result does that give - maybe it will keep charging.
Assuming that this is true, I don't suppose a fix is possible. Except for, perhaps, switching to slower connection (not applicable in my case) or putting kaiser on a bag of ice.

DarkDvr said:
Ok, I've been trying to get to the bottom of this problem for a long time.
I've got unilimited HSDPA GPRS on my Tilt, so I tether to my laptop. Kaiser is connected through a 1Amp powered USB hub to a laptop. Tilt was just lying on the desk, and I noticed several interesting things:
1. If Kaiser is at 100% charge - the green light (power) will stay on for a long time, about 40-60 minutes.
2. If Kaiser is NOT at 100% charge, it will charge (orange light) but won't reach 100%. It will stop charging in about 20-30 minutes.
3. If I put Kaiser on a cup, so that there's nothing under it and air moves freely all the way around the Kaiser - I get around 40-60 minutes of charging even when battery is less than 100%. If it is 100%, I can get up to 1.5 hours or so.
4. Whenether it stops charging - I notice that the back of Kaiser gets pretty high.
It seems to me that the problem with Kaiser stopping to charge when using HSDPA is caused by heat. There must be something on the hardware that turns off charging if the processor/MB/hardware is overheating. I guess charging the battery generates more heat than using the battery, or why else would it turn off charging when overheating?
Just thought that this, perhaps, would be interesting to some developers or people who have the same problem. Maybe someone can put Kaiser in front of a good fan and see what kind of result does that give - maybe it will keep charging.
Assuming that this is true, I don't suppose a fix is possible. Except for, perhaps, switching to slower connection (not applicable in my case) or putting kaiser on a bag of ice.
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What does the Batterystatus app read in all above situations?
Since I exchanged my Kaiser, I don't feel the unit getting hot anymore. The previous unit used to get v.hot using wi-fi and 3G/HSDPA - Possible fault?

smads said:
What does the Batterystatus app read in all above situations?
Since I exchanged my Kaiser, I don't feel the unit getting hot anymore. The previous unit used to get v.hot using wi-fi and 3G/HSDPA - Possible fault?
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Scary... I experienced this for the first time last night. Was streaming some vid from my tversity server whilst on the mains charger. All of a sudden my Kaiser got extremely hot. I immediately stopped streaming and let it cool.
I don't think it stopped charging though but I guess it makes sense that it would be protected against overheating.
The only thing I can suggest is try charging with .5 amp... not actually sure that it would charge too well at that though, especially if you're giving it a good workout at the same time.

DarkDvr said:
Ok, I've been trying to get to the bottom of this problem for a long time.
I've got unilimited HSDPA GPRS on my Tilt, so I tether to my laptop. Kaiser is connected through a 1Amp powered USB hub to a laptop. Tilt was just lying on the desk, and I noticed several interesting things:
1. If Kaiser is at 100% charge - the green light (power) will stay on for a long time, about 40-60 minutes.
2. If Kaiser is NOT at 100% charge, it will charge (orange light) but won't reach 100%. It will stop charging in about 20-30 minutes.
3. If I put Kaiser on a cup, so that there's nothing under it and air moves freely all the way around the Kaiser - I get around 40-60 minutes of charging even when battery is less than 100%. If it is 100%, I can get up to 1.5 hours or so.
4. Whenether it stops charging - I notice that the back of Kaiser gets pretty high.
It seems to me that the problem with Kaiser stopping to charge when using HSDPA is caused by heat. There must be something on the hardware that turns off charging if the processor/MB/hardware is overheating. I guess charging the battery generates more heat than using the battery, or why else would it turn off charging when overheating?
Just thought that this, perhaps, would be interesting to some developers or people who have the same problem. Maybe someone can put Kaiser in front of a good fan and see what kind of result does that give - maybe it will keep charging.
Assuming that this is true, I don't suppose a fix is possible. Except for, perhaps, switching to slower connection (not applicable in my case) or putting kaiser on a bag of ice.
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Try without that 1Amp powered USB hub to a laptop....
1Amp is max i gues... so maby it's giving less, so it take a long time to get from 80% to 100% and yep lot off heat....

smads said:
What does the Batterystatus app read in all above situations?
Since I exchanged my Kaiser, I don't feel the unit getting hot anymore. The previous unit used to get v.hot using wi-fi and 3G/HSDPA - Possible fault?
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I don't use it anymore, but before, if I remember correctly, it showed around small charge (+) when light is on.. then, when phone stops charging it used to drop to full battery drain, around -400 MAh or something like that.
So you got a new Kaiser and it doesn't heat up when using HSDPA? Really?! Have you tried using HSDPA for a long time (actually using the traffic like tethering, MobiTV, etc..)

SatScan said:
Try without that 1Amp powered USB hub to a laptop....
1Amp is max i gues... so maby it's giving less, so it take a long time to get from 80% to 100% and yep lot off heat....
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I see exact same problems when connected to a AC power supply that it came with. Same problem when using car charger.. and same problem when powering by USB without the AC adapter.

Here's my theory... Lithium ion batteries have on-board microprocessors to protect the battery and device from damage. If the battery gets hot the processor will shut down the charging to prevent damage. No matter what tweaks you do to the device or modifications to the charger this on board processor will override and shut down charging if it deemed it was necessary.
-Jay

DarkDvr said:
I don't use it anymore, but before, if I remember correctly, it showed around small charge (+) when light is on.. then, when phone stops charging it used to drop to full battery drain, around -400 MAh or something like that.
So you got a new Kaiser and it doesn't heat up when using HSDPA? Really?! Have you tried using HSDPA for a long time (actually using the traffic like tethering, MobiTV, etc..)
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No, I said the replacement didn't get hot - read uncomfortably hot - It does get warm, but only in the same way it does when taking a long phone call. My first kaiser used to get extremely hot when charging which indicated a short somewhere. All is well now though.
I hope you can get this sorted though - are you able to get a replacement?

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No, I said the replacement didn't get hot - read uncomfortably hot - It does get warm, but only in the same way it does when taking a long phone call. My first kaiser used to get extremely hot when charging which indicated a short somewhere. All is well now though.
I hope you can get this sorted though - are you able to get a replacement?
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Ahh, I see.
Yeah I think I'd be able to... but mine doesn't get "extremely hot".. it's just.. warm to very warm. It seems normal for me, don't think it's heating anymore than it should.
Have anyone had this problem with 3G (not hsdpa)? Cuz if it happens in 3G as well - that means another reason to be pissed at HTC - they've design kaiser in such a way that you cannot charge and use HSDPA at the same time.

This problem can be easily recreated and a result from other user would tell if it some device or not.
HSPDA with streaming music while charging = warm
HSPDA with streaming video while charging device = Extremely hot
At this point the USB charging will shut off for whatever reason. I just wondering why the phone is putting out that much heat and can it cause problems since I am starting to stream video via HSPDA while charging a lot.

DarkDvr said:
Ahh, I see.
Yeah I think I'd be able to... but mine doesn't get "extremely hot".. it's just.. warm to very warm. It seems normal for me, don't think it's heating anymore than it should.
Have anyone had this problem with 3G (not hsdpa)? Cuz if it happens in 3G as well - that means another reason to be pissed at HTC - they've design kaiser in such a way that you cannot charge and use HSDPA at the same time.
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Maybe we finally figured out why they included the option to disable charging when connected to a PC..

XSIVSPD said:
Maybe we finally figured out why they included the option to disable charging when connected to a PC..
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I was just thinking that on some systems it might have interfered with craptive sync. I never guessed that it was because of direct charging issues.
Do you still have problems if you are plugged into the OEM charger, and not a USB port or hub?
-Jay

Jay2TheRescue said:
I was just thinking that on some systems it might have interfered with craptive sync. I never guessed that it was because of direct charging issues.
Do you still have problems if you are plugged into the OEM charger, and not a USB port or hub?
-Jay
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Yep. I tried tethering through WiFi (successfully), and same result. Maybe even heats up more, since now there's one more module to power up.
Somebody told me some time ago that iPod charger fixes these problems... can anybody confirm that?

DarkDvr said:
Yep. I tried tethering through WiFi (successfully), and same result. Maybe even heats up more, since now there's one more module to power up.
Somebody told me some time ago that iPod charger fixes these problems... can anybody confirm that?
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My Kaiser would get hot with a teathered WiFi data connection, but I don't think it ever stopped charging on me.
-Jay

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Jay2TheRescue said:
My Kaiser would get hot with a teathered WiFi data connection, but I don't think it ever stopped charging on me.
-Jay
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Hmm.. sorry, but, are you sure? Try tetheting through a powered USB and.. I dunno.. do a big download or something, play an online game.. do something traffic intensive.. it should stop charging.. if it won't - hell, please let me know!

con_ritmo said:
i have an att tilt with the stock rom minus the bloatware.
when i installed battery status (basic version) i noticed that my charging became extremely slow. with the ac charger after the battery status install...it registered +350ma, then it fell to +110ma and wouldn't go any higher, no matter if i soft-reset or not...sometimes it was simply 0. i tried usb connection, ac connection, it didn't make a difference. the charging crawled along slower than i had ever seen it. 39%...40%..........41%. i had enough and i deleted battery status and softreset.
when i rebooted the phone, the battery immediately read 100% (from 41% before the reboot)!!!! and the charging was back to normal.
so my suggestion is to see if removing battery status...and see if that helps?
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That's really bizzare.. I had BS for a long time and never seen any problems, actually.. I just reflashed and haven't installed BS on it (I have no need for it now). We'll see if it makes any difference.. I hope it does.

DarkDvr said:
Hmm.. sorry, but, are you sure? Try tetheting through a powered USB and.. I dunno.. do a big download or something, play an online game.. do something traffic intensive.. it should stop charging.. if it won't - hell, please let me know!
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I never got teathering to work through USB. I'd either teather through WiFi or BT with the a/c charger plugged in. I'd imagine teathering through WiFi would be the worst. Most times I teather I'm just reading email, visiting various forums, and on rare occasions I'm downloading music. I'll have to try later and see what happens while I download music over a teathered WiFi connection...
-Jay

My Kaiser was absolutely baking last night.
I have a stuck pixel so was using a video that I found somewhere that you play on a continuous loop. The phone wasn't completely flat when I started playing the video but within half an hour or so the low batt notification popped up so I stuck it on charge (supplied mains charger).
I was connected to wifi but wasn't actually doing anything with it (video being played from sd card), in fact I wasn't even using the phone, it was just sat on the side charging and playing the video.
About an hour later I came back to the phone to find it was extremely hot. So hot the heat had travelled right through the phone body and even the screen was hot to touch and the battery was still flat so had clearly stopped charging.
I immediately switched the phone off and removed the battery, even then it took an age to cool down.
I don't know whether to get on to Orange for a replacement... I don't think it's right that it should get that hot.

This has been discussed before but some nice new information is coming out in this thread that ties a few things together.
The Lithium battery does have an onboard charging management system that will stop charge if the battery overheats but also if this heat is combined with high current drain. This should be at a precise point but I have experimented with three types of battery and get very different results between the three AND also between batteries of the same type.
The best performing battery seems to be the latest Samsung (P/N 35H00086-00M) with the external 'X' shaped heat spreader on the back that connects to the four earthing points in the battery compartment. Ealier batteries and some 3rd party batteries have this earthing spreader covered with potting compound or even omitted.
One other item I have found, a 1A rated USB port does not give a continous 1A output. Most ports are only rated at 1A surge and will only give out approx 600mA continuous before IT'S own thermal management system cuts off and kills the USB completely, this is probably the cause of comms loss by some people.
Nice informative thread DarkDvr.

Phone freezes after being charged all night?

99% of the time, i charge my phone over night when im sleeping, however everytime i do this i wake to find my phone has frozen. This means anyone who has tried to call or txt me during the night hasnt gotten through. The phone rings for them, but at my end the phone just stays blank.
This is the only time my phone freezes (within limits) and the fact it happens every night without fail seems a tad odd.
My old kaiser did the same but iv started to get a tad fed up of this, does it do the same for anyone else? Or does anyone know a way around it?
Im running Dutty's 6.1 hybrid, on UK t-mobile.
cheers guys

How are you charging it?
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99% of the time, i charge my phone over night when im sleeping
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Is it plugged into a PCs USB port, using a mains charger (if so is it the official one supplied with the device)? Have you tried swapping charging methods (or chargers if you have a spare) to see if the problem goes away? Do you have a spare battery you can swap in?

thanks for the response!
Its an offical HTC charger plugged into the wall, and as far as i can tell charging it via the computer is fine, but then again i dont leave it plugged into the computer for 12 hours.
I dont have second battery to try but the fact that this is a totally new phone & battery and i had this problem with my old phone aswell. iv also swopped the chargers around and it still happens.

are you in wifi mode
Sometimes when I leave the wifi mode on it will freeze, make sure the wifi is off at night. Hope this helps.
Cheers

cheers, wifi is always off though!
Kind of bugging me, especially is id like to use the alarm on my phone, but im too hesitant incase phone freezes & it doesnt go off.

Time to give it an overnight charge from the PC and other tests
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cheers, wifi is always off though!
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The next step then is to restore the phone to an 'as new' state in terms of software/ROM/Radio/spl etc (unless others with the same setup can verify this problem never happens for them) and charge it for the normal period solely via USB from a PC. You mentioned you don't normally recharge the phone this way for long periods but try it for a night or two just to see if this makes a difference. It would also help to rule out power fluctuations as a contributing factor if you could power the PC via a UPS. As this has happened now with 2 phones and 2 mains adapters, its extremely unlikely to be a hardware fault and more likely something associated with the configuration or your neigbourhood power supply. If it locks up most nights, take a note of the time displayed on the phone when that happens - is it the same time on each occasion?
What happens if you leave it on charge while in flight mode with all 'options' such as wifi, bluetooth etc turned off (just for diagnostic purposes)? If you can get it to charge properly without locking up in a basic state, then if you reintroduce any differences one by one and test after each change, you'll find the culprit.

wifitether uses more power than i can recharge?

I use my phone as a hotspot for my laptop an ipod. Whenever I have a big data transfer my phone dies after a bit. This happens whenit is plugged into tha wall charger or usb. This only seems to happen onthe newer roms cyn's 4.0.2 is what I'm on now.
Does anyone know why the phone can't charge fast enuf?

jady said:
I use my phone as a hotspot for my laptop an ipod. Whenever I have a big data transfer my phone dies after a bit. This happens whenit is plugged into tha wall charger or usb. This only seems to happen onthe newer roms cyn's 4.0.2 is what I'm on now.
Does anyone know why the phone can't charge fast enuf?
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i believe your phone always charges at the same rate unless you have bad cells in your current batter, which you most likely dont
my g1 also does the same thing, this is because your phone is using 3g (or edge depending on connection) as well as wifi at the same time, for heavy data traffic. This, along with other processes running on your g1, cause the battery to die quicker than normal usage. The only thing id suggest is to turn off wifi, and aut sync and so on while using wifi tether, also turn your screen off while tethering, basically anything to limit the power consumption of your g1 to a minimum. But even then, when downloading large amounts of data to my netbook, my g1 still does die, its a slow death, but its inevitable for me.

Same thing with my phone, so it's not isolated. I think it's due to a known problem of the battery not reporting the correct level. I have found that a reboot or shutdown and reboot usually works well, also, I don't know if it's related or not, but leaving the phone sitting on a well ventilated surface and having it lcd screen down seems to keep it cooler and the charging normal as well. I hope the battery level thing gets fixed soon.

Wootroot pretty much said it all.

So is there a usb tethering app other than pdanet? Pdanet seemed pretty slow when I used it b4......

How do you turn it off?

Hello how do you turn it off?
After I'm done and there is stil l the blue light so how does it turn of or go stand by thanks

Krisshp said:
Hello how do you turn it off?
After I'm done and there is stil l the blue light so how does it turn of or go stand by thanks
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Same way you turn off your refrigerator!

Asphyx said:
Same way you turn off your refrigerator!
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I shut the door lol
Honestly. How do I turn it off?

Krisshp said:
I shut the door lol
Honestly. How do I turn it off?
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LOL well the fridge doesn't go off when you close the door only when you unplug it!
The CCast is meant to stay on and wait for you to send something to it....
There is no Off switch.
It is afterall an APPLIANCE.

Asphyx said:
LOL well the fridge doesn't go off when you close the door only when you unplug it!
The CCast is meant to stay on and wait for you to send something to it....
There is no Off switch.
It is afterall an APPLIANCE.
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Haha. Kk. That makes sense
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Krisshp said:
Haha. Kk. That makes sense
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It's very low power draw (someone recently checked it with a Kill-A-Watt) and having it on continuous power means:
Much less chance of mishap during a firmware update (since they happen without you knowing)
It can turn on your TV and switch it to the appropriate input, if your TV or connected device supports HDMI-CEC. Mine is connected to my sound bar's input box and it seems to change the TV to the correct channel as well as the sound bar box! Magic!!!

So many things don't turn "off" now. Instead they "sleep." My Xbox one is never "off", my blue ray is never " off" either. Its such a low power state that who really cares. I've tried to get my power bill down to the days of an apartment, but its impossible.
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zul8er said:
I've tried to get my power bill down to the days of an apartment, but its impossible.
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Yeah, this I have tried (and failed at) too... seems only way that works is to update and consolidate, but I don't have that kind of cash.
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Just about everything is computer controlled, uses some variation of Flash memory and all of that needs power...
Imagine if you had to wait for your TV to boot up before you could watch TV.
Or for your Router and Modem to boot up every time you wanted to use the internet...
almost nothing these days actually shuts off entirely.

I only plug it in to use it. When I'm done I pull the power cord from my usb. I worry that it could be in the middle of an update and if I turn off my TV something bad could happen.
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striker59 said:
I only plug it in to use it. When I'm done I pull the power cord from my usb.
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Same here.
It's installed in the man cave anyway. If I'm not going to be down there for a week, why let it draw power. But that's me...I'm also the guy that goes around behind everyone turning off lights and shutting things off that aren't being used. PC gets shut down at the end of the day and doesn't get turned on until its needed the next day. Laptops at least go into Hibernation. I don't leave phone chargers plugged into the wall either if they aren't charging a phone. Maybe it's an old school thing. LOL

Creepingdeath2 said:
Maybe it's an old school thing. LOL
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Old School with a Nickname like that says to me we probably got drunk in the same Metal bars back in the day before Online dating when you actually had to dress up, go to a bar to get laid or find your future ex wife! LOL

If you want you could always cut open a USB cable and just install your own on/off switch on the 5v power lead. The wiring diagram for USB cables is on Wikipedia.
But just out of curiosity I got out my own power meter and checked the Chromecast. It consumes less than 2 watts on standby with the screen background photos cycling (that's the lower limit that my power meter can read). While playing a Youtube video it's still only 2 watts, though from the way the reading varies it looks like it's slightly higher than standby. As far as I can tell it's independent of whether the TV is on or not.

DJames1 said:
If you want you could always cut open a USB cable and just install your own on/off switch on the 5v power lead. The wiring diagram for USB cables is on Wikipedia.
But just out of curiosity I got out my own power meter and checked the Chromecast. It consumes less than 2 watts on standby with the screen background photos cycling (that's the lower limit that my power meter can read). While playing a Youtube video it's still only 2 watts, though from the way the reading varies it looks like it's slightly higher than standby. As far as I can tell it's independent of whether the TV is on or not.
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Or get yourself a Clapper! LOL

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PC gets shut down at the end of the day and doesn't get turned on until its needed the next day. Laptops at least go into Hibernation. I don't leave phone chargers plugged into the wall either if they aren't charyging a phone. Maybe it's an old school thing. LOL
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I'd shut down my PC save for the fact that it takes 20 minutes to become useable. Maybe I need SSD, heh.
I have some smart power control devices (TrickleStar, APC green UPS) too.
One thing I learned only a few years ago - if you unplug a battery powered device, DISCONNECT the device from the charger!
Even though it's not supposed to, some chargers allow some back flow and slow drain the device's battery, killing it.
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Or get yourself a Clapper! LOL
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Now that was funny!
Old School with a Nickname like that says to me we probably got drunk in the same Metal bars back in the day before Online dating when you actually had to dress up, go to a bar to get laid or find your future ex wife! LOL
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And THIS was even funnier mostly because I'm sure it's very close to the truth. LOL

Asphyx said:
Or get yourself a Clapper! LOL
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Hey, that's a great idea!
But wait a minute, how many watts does a Clapper use? I bet it's more than 2 watts!

DJames1 said:
Hey, that's a great idea!
But wait a minute, how many watts does a Clapper use? I bet it's more than 2 watts!
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Yep there really is no point to trying to save power without just going over and unplugging it....
As of now there are only two reasons I can come up with for really wanting to power off a CCast...
1 - The damn thing will change inputs anytime it reboots or updates
2 - The CCast gets pretty hot after awhile...It just seems like the kind of device that if you do not have a conditioned power source coming into the house it could easily fry.
On a more serious note if thats all your worried about (not Power use) then anyone who has one of those X-10 Home automation systems can easily plug the CCast into a module and shut it off from the phone or tablet.
And if you don't care that the CCast can't turn the TV on and the TV has a USB port thats probably the best way to save power.
I personally don't trust the TV to give it stable power and you will find yourself having to unplug it anyway to reboot from time to time...
If you really have issues with a high Electric bill there are far better ways to save on that bill than powering down a CCast.
Even something as simple as keeping your Freezer fully packed will save more money in the long run than the few hours the CCast is unplugged.

I don't mind it consumes energy, it is very little but I am more concerned about the fact it will be broken faster. It's like a light bulb, when you are not using it, why does it need to stay on and will need to be replaced faster.
Also the chromecast gets quite hot. So without turning it off, it never gets a chance to cool down.

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I don't mind it consumes energy, it is very little but I am more concerned about the fact it will be broken faster. It's like a light bulb, when you are not using it, why does it need to stay on and will need to be replaced faster.
Also the chromecast gets quite hot. So without turning it off, it never gets a chance to cool down.
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Well the truth is silicon is not as fragile as a Light filament is...
Power Surges worry me but not just the act of being powered on....
It makes sense that it would be an always on device considering it needs to be there when you want it...
But some sort of sleep state might be a nice addition to any next generation model which I hope can also be wired to the network and use Wake On Lan to full power up when you want to cast.