GPS not working without Data Plan - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Afters many hours searching the net and xda i could not find answers to these questions.
1) Does the rogers dream/g1 GPS work without a data plan? (using a standalone GPS app for example: CoPilot)
2) Does rogers Dream/G1 require data in order to initially find the satellites?
3) If you have no data plan are you able to get a lock on the satellites?
4) Can i manually enter my coordinates (longitude/latitude) for my gps in order to find the satellites quicker?
Here is what happened, i got fed up with rogers and decided to cancel my data plan (its just not worth paying 25$ for just 500mb per month). But since i canceled i noticed i am unable to find satellites for my GPS. Using multiple apps (GPS Test, GPS Status, CoPilot, etc...) none of them could get a lock on any satellites or even find one for that matter. I had my phone outside in a clear view of the sky when i was trying these apps.
By the way its not a hardware issue, because it worked before i canceled the data plan. I purchased the standalone map software called CoPilot in order for me to use when i canceled my data plan. (The US/CANADA maps are already installed on my sdcard).
Data was not important to me, since i quite often use my wifi, but not having my GPS working because i canceled my data is really making a paper weight out of my phone
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated!, as i am sure that there are many other users who would like to have these questions answered before making the decision to cancel their data plan.

1) Yes.
2) No.
3) Yes.
4) No.
Note that robbers really screwed some things up badly on the latest "update" that they sent out for DREAM hardware -- along with locking the thing down to prevent you from fixing it yourself. I think they want to make it look like crap and be locked in to its obsolete version of Android permanently. They are obviously fishing for more service contracts. I wouldn't be surprised if they broke GPS.
Note: It could be that you just aren't in a spot to easily receive GPS.

Thank you for the response!!! lbcoder, and i am happy you kept your answers to a yes or no (that was exactly what i was looking for).
I was wondering if you could help me some more. Instead of doing the robbers 911 update, i followed the instructions from cyanogen to bypass this since i already had my phone rooted, i used this guide wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Upgrade_Rogers_Dream_Radio
Before i did this update i was running enomther rom and also wesgarner rom. Both worked flawlessly and GPS also worked with both. But once rogers sent out the 911 update, that's when i cancelled my data plan, and followed cyanogen instructions to bypass this.
1) Could it be that its cyanogen new v4.2.14.1 rom that is causing the issue of my gps not working?
2) What are other roms i can try that works with cyanogen new radio update?
Thanks again for your help!

ifactory said:
1) Could it be that its cyanogen new v4.2.14.1 rom that is causing the issue of my gps not working?
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Possible. Cyanogen isn't known for being particularly stable.
2) What are other roms i can try that works with cyanogen new radio update?
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I believe that you should be able to use ANY ROM that you like. The only issue is that the kernel you use must be compatible with that radio (i.e. built from the HTC source).
There is no guarantee, but there is a high likelihood that the appropriate kernel will work with pretty much any system image. So you should be able to switch out the boot.img and any kmods from any rom to make something that works.
Just be sure that you don't go messing with the radio or spl on your phone and keep a good nandroid backup in case you need to backtrack.
Now if you aren't comfortable making this kind of modification (i.e., if you have to ask....), then you might want to go searching for ROMs that are specifically listed as compatible. I don't have any robbers hardware, so I don't know which specific roms to suggest to you.

I was able to install two roms aside from cyanogen, using the new radio. One was by wesgarner and the other by benbuchacher. Both roms are not able to find any satellites for the gps.
So i can confirm this issue has nothing to do with the roms.
CAN ANYBODY CONFIRM THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO USE THEIR GPS WITH A ROGERS DREAM PHONE, WITH THEIR DATA PLAN CANCELED?

The G1 GPS uses ASSISTED location when it can, meaning when you use the GPS along with the data services it will be able to lock onto a signal pretty much instantaneously. If you turn off your data, if can take the GPS a LONG time to find location (I've seen it take upwards of 5 minutes.)

lbcoder said:
Possible. Cyanogen isn't known for being particularly stable.
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not sure which version were you using but Cyanogen is one of the best roms and stable ones, maybe you used the experimental version

lbcoder said:
Possible. Cyanogen isn't known for being particularly stable.
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GPS is working fine with & without data for the version of cyanogenmod mentioned.

pk198105 said:
not sure which version were you using but Cyanogen is one of the best roms and stable ones, maybe you used the experimental version
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Any of them. They're all bloated piggish things that barely work at all. Fine if you like bleeding edge and useless features. Not if you actually want your something productive.

it works fine.

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GPS Cant get fix w/newest cyan roms/what are best alternative radiis?

In the recent cyanogen roms since 4.19 which required flashing with the htc radio my gps has stopped getting fixes. I am limited to only cell tower location. Maybe this is a radio issue? If so what is the best radio alternative which will work with cyanogen roms? I need my gps back. Thanks.
I just tested gps on my dream with cyan 4.2.1 on top of the htc flash. Working with no problems, even indoors. If you don't get any better tips, I would suggest installing again, and this time wipe ext3 partition in addition to wiping, and don't restore anything from backup for root users etc. before you check the GPS.
Hi
This may not be a tip, but i had the same problems when i upgraded rom, I had copilot and Ndive that worked prior, But stopped after urgrading rom to CYAN 4.1.999
Only solution i found was to try other alternatives, the only one i got to work flawlessly was Sygic mobile maps 9 V7.71, gets a fix almost immediatley and works Perfecto.
Hope this helps
I have the exact same problem!
I flashed cyan 4.21 and stopped getting GPS fix. I wiped, wiped ext3 and installed enomther AOSP 1.6 without the expansion pack. I can't get a gps fix anyway...
axlastro said:
I flashed cyan 4.21 and stopped getting GPS fix. I wiped, wiped ext3 and installed enomther AOSP 1.6 without the expansion pack. I can't get a gps fix anyway... What the hell did cyan do this time. He really messes up basic functionality on android, I think that's why google are trying to stop him.
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Christ, thats an ignorant post
Cyanogen does not "mess up basic functionality", 99.9% of people running his roms have no such problems, myself included. It was probably something you missed or did wrong in the process. Did you follow the steps in his first post carefully, it is a more convoluted process coming from 4.1.11 because of the changes required by Google. In any case, rooting and installing custom roms has its risks and you chose to accept those risks, stop trying to blame someone else when it goes wrong. Take some responsibility, be constructive and try to find a solution instead of crying about it.
Incidentally, the reason Google had an issue with cyanogen was, completely legitimately, because his roms included some of their closed source apps (mail, youtube, market etc) hence why his new roms do not include those and Google are fine with him now. Try reading about it before you shoot your mouth off
I'm trying to work out the problem right now. I wiped again and installed another rom - not cyanogen. The problem is still here. It seems to be a problem that not only I have. It's quite possible that I, and others having the same issue, haven't followed the instructions correctly or did something else wrong.
Try flashing the radio
http://android-roms.googlecode.com/files/ota-radio-2_22_19_26I.zip
Well, seeing as my GPS just got a fix indoors with Cyanogen's 4.2.2, I think the problem is with you.
Now, without posting what you have done to get your phone to the state it is in now, how in the world can we help figure out what went wrong? This really seems like an isolated incident, and obviously not one that is suggestive of Cyanogen's rom being faulty (pretty damn insulting of you to blame him) since you have the problem even after flashing a rom that you give so much praise to for being 'stable'.
So..... how about you reconsider what you might have done to your phone, and try some troubleshooting...
1. When I am having issues with my GPS, sometimes I find it helps to disable GPS (both wireless and sat), reboot my phone, re-enable them, and try again to get a fix.
2. Use GPS Status2 to see if it is connecting to any sats at all.
See what happens... Who knows, maybe there is something wrong with your phone (ever imagine that?).
Not trying to be rude, or bash you, but you were pretty rude and bashing towards Cyanogen, and then you said you had the problem with someone else's rom too...
daveid said:
Well, seeing as my GPS just got a fix indoors with Cyanogen's 4.2.2, I think the problem is with you.
Now, without posting what you have done to get your phone to the state it is in now, how in the world can we help figure out what went wrong? This really seems like an isolated incident, and obviously not one that is suggestive of Cyanogen's rom being faulty (pretty damn insulting of you to blame him) since you have the problem even after flashing a rom that you give so much praise to for being 'stable'.
So..... how about you reconsider what you might have done to your phone, and try some troubleshooting...
1. When I am having issues with my GPS, sometimes I find it helps to disable GPS (both wireless and sat), reboot my phone, re-enable them, and try again to get a fix.
2. Use GPS Status2 to see if it is connecting to any sats at all.
See what happens... Who knows, maybe there is something wrong with your phone (ever imagine that?).
Not trying to be rude, or bash you, but you were pretty rude and bashing towards Cyanogen, and then you said you had the problem with someone else's rom too...
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First off. I have tried both steps you suggested.
With gps status I can see 4-5 satelites and the lower right of the display says 0 sats. So I can't get fix, the gps itself works. Could be a problem with gps.cfg, I'm going to look at it now.
The issue occured right after I flashed cyanogen 4.2.1 stable. Even afer wiping entirely and flashing another rom I have the same issue, So I suppose that that the problem might be radio related. I actually consider there might be a problem with the phone, but a user who started this thread also had similar problem after going to cyanogen build. Maybe he did the same mistake as I did. Many times I have installed roms and had no issues while others had them - sometimes they occur sometimes they dont - depending on what spl/radio you are on, even what network you are on and what ROM you are coming from. Sorry for being that rude, I realize that now...
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First off. I have tried both steps you suggested.
With gps status I can see 4-5 satelites and the lower right of the display says 0 sats. So I can't get fix, the gps itself works. Could be a problem with gps.cfg, I'm going to look at it now.
The issue occured right after I flashed cyanogen 4.2.1 stable. Even afer wiping entirely and flashing another rom I have the same issue, So I suppose that that the problem might be radio related. I actually consider there might be a problem with the phone, but a user who started this thread also had similar problem after going to cyanogen build. Maybe he did the same mistake as I did. Many times I have installed roms and had no issues while others had them - sometimes they occur sometimes they dont - depending on what spl/radio you are on, even what network you are on and what ROM you are coming from. Serry for being that rude, I realize that now...
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We all get upset when things don't work that we expect to, my suggestion about that is to go back and clean up your posts before Cyanogen reads them (hopefully) so as to avoid pissing him off.. He has given us so much, and we don't want to alienate him on XDA...
Anyway, about seeing satellites but not getting a fix, have you tried re-flashing the radio?
You said you have wiped, and flashed two different ROMS. The possibility of it still being a software issue are slim (but still there), if the radio doesn't help... it just may be a hardware thing.
I have never had mine get locks on satellites and not lock-in my position.
I know this stuff has been mentioned, but here is your basic troubleshooting process. Complicated, I know. Shouldn't take all day.
Download GPSStatus2 from the market and check to see if it is connecting to any satellites at all.
a) Go outside, away from buildings and trees, and open GPSStatus2. If it connects to 1 satellite, your receiver is working and it's probably some fluke of atmospheric interference (rain, dust, clouds, temperature, vapor, fog all affect microwave transmission; even air quality) that it can't connect to more. Try some different areas with different weather.
b) If it connects to zero, reinstall radio image from the link a few posts up.
c) Still no luck, go all the way back to stock firmware (flash OriginalSPL if you have DangerSPL installed, then RC29) and let it update to Donut, try again.
d) If it's still not working, your GPS happened to randomly die or something. Call T-Mobile cause you need a warranty replacement. They will send you a new phone, you send the old one back.
You know... if you are only trying google maps, try downloading some alternatives. One off the top of my head is RMaps.
I'm flashing the radio now. I have tried the other steps. I tried to get a fix from different locations, now I'm in the mountains and the device has a clear view to the north, where most sattelites are supposed to be... Yes it could be a hardware issue. As you can see another userr ATINsa, who started the topic has the same issue.
still problems
I don't know why you are attacking that guy. There is a problem. I had it on my old dream which was just stolen and replaced. And now I have it with the replacement. Prior to 4.19 and the radio you had to flash to keep cyan cool with google I had no problems. Google tracks, my maps editor, and google maps have a problem. When using wifi can sometimes connect more. The old cyan roms worked fined. Please don't try to explain to me how to use a gps. I have reflashed and redormatted. This has reccured with all roms since I had to replacwe the radio with the one required for him to be cool with google.
So the quesstion is, what other radios are the newest and will work with gps and cyanogens newest rom?
There are 2 people in this thread with the same prob. A third says google maps didn't work but anothewr gps program did. I have experianced this with2 googlde dev dreams. There is a problem and its not a user problem.
Something like this really sounds like a hardware issue. I don't mess around with the GPS code in my ROMs.
AntiNSA said:
I don't know why you are attacking that guy. There is a problem. I had it on my old dream which was just stolen and replaced. And now I have it with the replacement. Prior to 4.19 and the radio you had to flash to keep cyan cool with google I had no problems. Google tracks, my maps editor, and google maps have a problem. When using wifi can sometimes connect more. The old cyan roms worked fined. Please don't try to explain to me how to use a gps. I have reflashed and redormatted. This has reccured with all roms since I had to replacwe the radio with the one required for him to be cool with google.
So the quesstion is, what other radios are the newest and will work with gps and cyanogens newest rom?
There are 2 people in this thread with the same prob. A third says google maps didn't work but anothewr gps program did. I have experianced this with2 googlde dev dreams. There is a problem and its not a user problem.
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The thing is, the radio that is flashed with the HTC system image, should be the same radio that you were already running on your phone. I don't think that has been changed since 1.5 came out.
And the problem with your theory of this being more than just an isolated incident is this: most people aren't experiencing this problem, only a handful (two or three people here or there does not a system problem make).
I'm 26 years old and have had windows mobile devices and now I've been on android for about half an year. I have used linux back in school when most of the kids here, blindly defending cyanogen were toddlers. I didn't mean to attack cyanogen or whoever else. It's just that the problem is with at least 2 or 3 people and maybe more. The right thing to do is to calm down and try to go back to a state which works. I have reflashed radio and gone to AOSP donut build. Still no luck. When you wipe you wipe /data and /cache right? What about /system ? I bet it's some of the libraries that have something to do with controlling GPS hardware, which remains after a wipe. It would be a nice idea to flash the SPL again. It will probaby clean things up. This is the next thing I'm going to try. It's a good time for someone with better knowledge of how android works step up and give any other ideas.
For now try :
Flash SPL again (whatever SPL you are using)
Flash Radio (latest one from htc developer site)
Flash some basic rom, like TMO cupcake or donut and let's see of it works. That's what I'm trying to do now. If this doesn't help, we might try the proposed reverting to stock spl and RC29.
axlastro said:
I'm 26 years old and have had windows mobile devices and now I've been on android for about half an year. I have used linux back in school when most of the kids here, blindly defending cyanogen were toddlers. I didn't mean to attack cyanogen or whoever else. It's just that the problem is with at least 2 or 3 people and maybe more. The right thing to do is to calm down and try to go back to a state which works. I have reflashed radio and gone to AOSP donut build. Still no luck. When you wipe you wipe /data and /cache right? What about /system ? I bet it's some of the libraries that have something to do with controlling GPS hardware, which remains after a wipe. It would be a nice idea to flash the SPL again. It will probaby clean things up. This is the next thing I'm going to try. It's a good time for someone with better knowledge of how android works step up and give any other ideas.
For now try :
Flash SPL again (whatever SPL you are using)
Flash Radio (latest one from htc developer site)
Flash some basic rom, like TMO cupcake or donut and let's see of it works. That's what I'm trying to do now. If this doesn't help, we might try the proposed reverting to stock spl and RC29.
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If you wipe it wipes /data, if you flash a new rom it "wipes" (it really formats) /system and /cache. Nothing is left behind on /system...
Ok. I fixed the issue. I'm on danger SPL , newest radio etc...
I reflashed radio (as adviced above). Prior reflashing the radio wiped and installed enomther AOSP+ADP 1.6, with exp pack 2.11.
After that installed an app from market called GPS TEST (Don't know if it had something to do with GPS being fixed)
It detected 5 satelites right by the window indoors. Then Google maps found my location.
axlastro said:
I'm trying to work out the problem right now. I wiped again and installed another rom - not cyanogen. The problem is still here. It seems to be a problem that not only I have. It's quite possible that I, and others having the same issue, haven't followed the instructions correctly or did something else wrong.
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well if you tried another rom and its still there .. then the problem might lie with your phone and not the roms you installing .... is anyone else around you with a G1 not getting gps location also ?

[Q] Froyo GPS Lock Problem

Ok...so after updating to Froyo my GPS is not working. Not only that, my phone can't seem to find my approximate location even after enabling "Use Wireless networks". I used GPS Status app from the market and I confirmed the phone was seeing several satellites, but it was getting no lock. I had no problem with my GPS with 2.1 aside from losing my location occasionally when I drive through the downtown.
Is anyone else experiencing this issue? I'm running my phone on Rogers network, unlocked and rooted.
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Ok...so after updating to Froyo my GPS is not working. Not only that, my phone can't seem to find my approximate location even after enabling "Use Wireless networks". I used GPS Status app from the market and I confirmed the phone was seeing several satellites, but it was getting no lock. I had no problem with my GPS with 2.1 aside from losing my location occasionally when I drive through the downtown.
Is anyone else experiencing this issue? I'm running my phone on Rogers network, unlocked and rooted.
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You didn't say what version of Froyo you are running but I'd change my modem file and use one of the alternate ones that DocRambone has. There's a thread on this but I find the ZSJPE (Hong Kong) version to be superb (and our company develops an app for the phone that uses GPS for golfers) - very quick, very accurate...
Oh I'm using JK4 from Bell..and kernel version 2.6.32.9....
Edit: Oh and I have also done factory reset/cache wipe...and it's still doing that...I want to see if I can fix this without changing the modem file or anything like that...
I'm having the exact same problem since upgrading to the official 2.2 release from 2.1
EDIT: Bell Galaxy S Vibrant, Unlocked and running on Rogers. Not rooted.
sw411 said:
I'm having the exact same problem since upgrading to the official 2.2 release from 2.1
EDIT: Bell Galaxy S Vibrant, Unlocked and running on Rogers. Not rooted.
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Ok...so I'm a bit relieved to know I'm not the only one out there...From the things I've been reading it doesn't seem to affect phones running on Bell networks..but shouldn't GPS be not affected regardless of the network you're running on? I don't see why it's refusing to get a lock...
I can't believe no one else is having this problem, maybe we're the only ones unlocking??
I was also having this problem. I updated to bell froyo using kies, and am unlocked using rogers. I loaded gps test, set it so it wouldn't shut off the screen, and let it run for about 30 min in a window. Eventually it got solid lock on a couple sats and it now seems a lot snappier to get a lock.
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I can't believe no one else is having this problem, maybe we're the only ones unlocking??
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Ok, good news! At least for me anyway... I decided to try keeping my GPS on and let my phone to try and find my location..however long it was going to take. I don't think it took me 30 minutes but it took me good 10 minutes before my GPS found my location. I think the problem was because I'm having trouble getting location information based on my wireless network and updating to Froyo and doing a factory reset must have deleted my satellite schedule. Right now I'm just so glad to find out my GPS isn't broken! :-D You should try the same thing I did.
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@sw411 Oh and you should try and read this forum about wireless network based location service.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845152
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Thanks Yeria, that sounds like the problem we're having.
I do find that if I give it enough time, It will get a pure GPS lock, but I'm not getting any aGPS (the network based)
That thread you link sounds like the solution, but unfortunately I can't seem to access the file they tell you to modify
I too have GPS problems right after upgrading to official froyo. And it kept getting worse when i tried custom ROM. I tried factory resetting and format all my sd card, cache wipe etc hoping that it will return to normal like when i was in 2.1 elcair but to no avail. I don't know if some bad code was left behind when i did the official upgrade through kies. All i can say is it was working fine when i was at 2.1 then suddenly went bad after 2.2.
By the way, my problem is my GPS lock kept of disconnecting every now and then thus rendering my GPS useless as it kept on displaying my location as "off road" even though i'm on a clear highway with clear and bright skies!
ahh, if I root the phone I can get to
/dbdata/databases/com.google.android.gsf/gservices.db
unfortunately, this phone doesn't have sqlite3 installed!! I need to try and find that
EDIT: Found a copy of sqlite3 and was able to push it to the phone. edited the db as people suggested! I'll have to test it on Monday
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I too have GPS problems right after upgrading to official froyo. And it kept getting worse when i tried custom ROM. I tried factory resetting and format all my sd card, cache wipe etc hoping that it will return to normal like when i was in 2.1 elcair but to no avail. I don't know if some bad code was left behind when i did the official upgrade through kies. All i can say is it was working fine when i was at 2.1 then suddenly went bad after 2.2.
By the way, my problem is my GPS lock kept of disconnecting every now and then thus rendering my GPS useless as it kept on displaying my location as "off road" even though i'm on a clear highway with clear and bright skies!
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Based on what I have found so far, and assuming your aGPS or any other wireless based assistance features are not functioning properly, doing a reset and cache clear will not help with your GPS at all. I have read that the phone will try to download the satellite schedules directly from GPS satellites if you're using purely satellite based GPS option. It'll be slow so it will take longer to get a lock and that's why phone will use other means to shorten the lock time. Once the schedule is downloaded, they said there shouldn't be any problem until the schedule expires, at which point you will have to download the schedule again.
I think the reason you're losing lock frequently might be because your phone doesn't have a clear view of the sky..? I used my phone GPS to drive around Toronto, Vaughan and Mississauga last night for at least 4+ hours, and I did not have any problem.
So, I tested today after updating the db.... no agps still..
Anyone else still.having issues with agps?
GPS works, just no agps since 2.2
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mikextr23 said:
By the way, my problem is my GPS lock kept of disconnecting every now and then thus rendering my GPS useless as it kept on displaying my location as "off road" even though i'm on a clear highway with clear and bright skies!
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This is why I unfortunately have to use an old Tom Tom GPS!
i'm having this problem too. i finally got it picking up quickly on 2.1 but once i updated i haven't been able to ever get a solid lock. has anyone found a solution yet??
Now that my wireless location service is kind of working I thought aGPS should also naturally work but I guess not... My GPS takes a pretty long time to start up and I haven't found any fix for this..
It's funny because I didn't really have any problem with my GPS with 2.1 but now I do with 2.2...
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SGS/Doc's Rom Questions

Just cooked and installed a rom on my Telstra GT-I9000T handset and I couldn't be happier. The speed has more than doubled and I am free from Telstra refusing to release updates and their bloatware. Any way I have some Questions.
I'v installed Doc's 9.6.6 Rom and it's going quite well.
1. The GPS has improved but I think it could still be better. I see there is an APP out there called GPS Aids and I was wondering if it would improve my GPS functionality or would it not work with a custom rom like mine?
Are there any methods to make my GPS better? I feel that this is the phone's achilles heal.
2. I now have the option under settings > About Phone > Software Update. I guess Samsung or Google will make Gingerbread avaliable for the SGS soon. When it is will i be upgraded OTA with this software update feature?
3. Any word on when gingerbread is coming out and if/when it will be avaliable in the RomKitchen? I know it's in Beta testing at the moment. Can't be too long before it starts to get released around the globe.
1. You could try a newer rom/modem as they definitely help out with GPS. Currently on JQ1 I get a lock within 5 secs accurate to about 10m. You could also try Faster Fix from the market
2. Upgrade will happen when Samsung releases it.
3. Supposed to be coming out March but no one really knows.
gbatman said:
Just cooked and installed a rom on my Telstra GT-I9000T handset and I couldn't be happier. The speed has more than doubled and I am free from Telstra refusing to release updates and their bloatware. Any way I have some Questions.
I'v installed Doc's 9.6.6 Rom and it's going quite well.
1. The GPS has improved but I think it could still be better. I see there is an APP out there called GPS Aids and I was wondering if it would improve my GPS functionality or would it not work with a custom rom like mine?
Are there any methods to make my GPS better? I feel that this is the phone's achilles heal.
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GPS Aids do works on Doc's ROM. What it does is speed up satellite discovery. So in theory you'll see satellites faster, but this doesn't necessarily means that it will be locked faster.
On my SGS it takes an average of 20s to lock using LBSTestMode. Some navigation apps takes longer though (not sure why). Also as utsmaster18 said, fasterfix helps too.
Latest DOC's ROM is 9.9.5 (based on JS8) and I've read (can't remember what thread) that ZSJPG modem is very good. I'm using JS8 + JPY CSC + ZSJPG modem, with Damian Kernel. I have gps aids and faster fix and I do love the GPS performance.
2. I now have the option under settings > About Phone > Software Update. I guess Samsung or Google will make Gingerbread avaliable for the SGS soon. When it is will i be upgraded OTA with this software update feature?
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I don't think this function works at all. Even on my stock ROM this was useless. At least for me. I'd say you'll be best served by the XDA comunity.
3. Any word on when gingerbread is coming out and if/when it will be avaliable in the RomKitchen? I know it's in Beta testing at the moment. Can't be too long before it starts to get released around the globe.
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Rumor says it would be out this month. In fact there is a leaked beta ROM already out and many custom ROMS built on top of it. But an official *golden* ROM from Samsung, I think that even they (samsung developers) can't tell for sure.
This is my ROM:
XWJS5_Wipe-v9_6_6-23-29-22-04-03-rM9FJUquQU
I got the GPS working.
First I used an ap called GPS Status to reset my GPS data as Dialing *#*#1472365#*#* does not work for me.
After I cleared all my GPS data I used FasterFix to add the fix although I am not sure if FasterFix was necessary as maybe clearing the data was all I needed to do.
GPS is really good now though.
I also got the compas working in GPS Status. First time I have had a compas work on my phone.
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I don't think this function works at all. Even on my stock ROM this was useless. At least for me. I'd say you'll be best served by the XDA comunity.
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I have a mate with an old Nexus phone and he recieves firmware updates OTA. I never had this with my stock firmware (2.1-Update1) but Telstra probably removed it.
It will be interesting to see if I am able to update this way.
I may be wrong, but I guess Nexus firmware comes from Google itself, while we have to wait for samsung to release it. That's why we probably won't get updates through that menu.
At least on stock froyo (JPY) that menu hasn't worked for me. Not even to tell that I was running the most updated firmware. All I got was errors connecting to the server, or some other words with the same meaning
I'm pretty sure you're right and nexus firmware comes straight from Google.
GPS Aids and Doc's Rom works well together and gave me GPS lock in 2 minutes or so.
That's with JPE modem.
Now using Darky's 9.4, JQ1 modem without GPS Aids and getting locked in under 30 seconds with Google Maps and Navigation.
But I'm not knocking ROM creators around here, GPS Aids and Doc Rom FTW!
And yes, Nexus handsets get OTA directly from Google, no mobile operators in the damn way.
I might try GPS AIDS.
The clearing the data method with GPS Status then using Fast fix has made my GPS super accurate but it takes forever to get a fix and actually start working.
Just another question. Not really related to the OP but my provider has released 2.2 and there is a new modem JP9. Is it worth flashing this to my phone. I am running JL2 and it seems fine. Has any one compared JL2 to JP9?

Looking for some help...

..In picking out which is the best droid setup for me.
I was here months back when I setup droid on my Vogue(US Cellular) and over the course of a couple days of trying out different builds and testing, I found that Warm Doughnut was the best working one for me at the time. Unlike the Froyo build on here that I tried, doughnut's data connection worked fine (and right away) without any setup at all whereas I couldn't get it running for the life of me on Froyo.
However, I'm wanting to swap out past doughnut now to a more updated version of Android. Which would you all recommend? I've been reading some good reviews on the Gingerbread build... However, I'm worried about calls/sms/data and all of the other features... Which are working which aren't?
I'd have to have them all working (like current setup on doughnut) to make the switch, else it'll just be pointless for me.
Now I ask the same of the FroYo build on here. Before it worked fine for me, except the data functions... I couldn't get it to connect at all for the life of me.
So, I ask of you all with more experience with this phone than me. What would you suggest? What works for you? Doughnut, Froyo, or Gingerbread?
I want to get Froyo running if I can (about to put it back on and give it a go) but not having a data connection will kill the idea for me. And even better would be if I can get Gingerbread running, but only if I can get in/outgoing calls, sms, data, (gps hopefully) and bluetooth.
Thanks in advance for any/all support you guys can give me!
Superfroyo seems very stable and functional to me. I'm on Sprint. Even MMS works though you have to fiddle with it. Gingerbread's not all there yet stabilitywise.
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Superfroyo seems very stable and functional to me. I'm on Sprint. Even MMS works though you have to fiddle with it. Gingerbread's not all there yet stabilitywise.
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Thanks for the reply! I felt the same when I tried it out months ago, my only issue is getting the data running... Did you have to fiddle with yours a lot to get it working? I know you're on Sprint and I'm on US Cellular, but from what I can tell the two shouldn't be that different to setup. Maybe I didn't give it enough time/work before to get data running (or maybe I was doing it wrong).
Also, I'm going to be using it from my SD card (like I have previously) for a while and make sure its solid before I think about wiping my WM6.1 off and replacing it altogether. Doughnut worked fine off of the SD card, I'm assuming Froyo will as well? Didn't give it too much time before, but when I did have it going on the SD card before I didn't notice it chugging along at all.
Another thing, do I have to use WM6.5 to get this going, or is it ok using WM6.1 like I am? Would prefer not to have to redo (and backup all that nonsense) for my 6.1 if I don't have to.
I totally wiped windows mobile and run off nand. It's snappy enough and data worked straight off. No fiddling.
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Well, got Froyo running... But no data running yet... Enabled Data, enabled data while roaming (roaming majority of the time anyways) and nothing yet...
Ideas anyone?
M 5hizzle said:
Well, got Froyo running... But no data running yet... Enabled Data, enabled data while roaming (roaming majority of the time anyways) and nothing yet...
Ideas anyone?
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The typical question is: does it work in winmo?

[Q] Mobile data connectivity issues, which radio?

Hi guys (and girls),
I'm going slightly mad trying to figure out a stable setup for my O2X. I have been switching between the latest CM7 nightlies, and MoDaCo FR19. In general, CM7 gives me quite frequent black screens, and FR19 seems quite stable. However, there is one issue that is present in both ROMs.
I am unable to get a stable mobile data connection when I switch from WiFi. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't. To get it to work again, it sometimes works to switch to 2G only (and possibly back again). I have tried several different radios recently: 218, 606, and 622, all with the appropriate RIL. The mobile data connection for 218 drops in and out at random without any clear pattern. For the other two radios switching on or off 2G only seems to achieve stable connection. However, it does not actually seem to affect whether I get a 3G or 2G signal. The display can say H or G, even when 2G only is checked. Bluetooth did not work correctly with 606.
To top everything off, the GPS does not seem to behave consistently for a all the different radio versions.
I guess that people have different experience with different radios, so which radio are the guys in Norway using? Do I really have to slog through every released radio and spend the day checking each one of them? Can I expect to find a radio/from combination that blacks to give me a stable GPS and mobile data connectivity, as well as good WiFi?
I know this has been discussed numerous times before, but people never seem to reach any conclusions. I'm just looking for advice on how to proceed to fix my problem.
I'm on cm7 .77 and i honestly havent had a blackscreen since i flashed it (yesterday morning) + battery is good now. For me this is the most stable nightly so ill stick with it for 2 weeks on my holiday )
Edit: bb .502 ril 218(i think) dont have any problems with network switching btw
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kolaf said:
Hi guys (and girls),
Do I really have to slog through every released radio and spend the day checking each one of them?
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You probably have to, yes. This sounds more like a problem with the specific coverage in your area and how the phone interacts with the cell-towers than an actual problem with the phone. You may be in an area with weak signals from several stations, you may be in an area suffering from sudden bursts of noise, there could be a lot of reasons for why this is happening.
First thing I'd try is to upgrade to the latest official firmware (10C - 0622 for Norway), just to have a baseline for comparison. In theory this firwmare (and baseband) has recently been validated by the norwegian carriers, and should have the best chance of success.
Then you should probably do a manual scan (in phone settings) for networks, and pick one manually.
Also try using the INFO menu (*#*#4636#*#*) and see if choosing a specific protocol helps.
If you're still unable to maintain a stable connection, I'd say that'd be grounds for returning the phone for a replacement.
Weak advice, I know, sometimes there just aren't any quick solutions.
::Trym
TrymHansen said:
First thing I'd try is to upgrade to the latest official firmware (10C - 0622 for Norway), just to have a baseline for comparison. In theory this firwmare (and baseband) has recently been validated by the norwegian carriers, and should have the best chance of success.
::Trym
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Thanks for your reply. Do you by any chance have a link to the firmware?
kolaf said:
Thanks for your reply. Do you by any chance have a link to the firmware?
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Sort of. In this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035041 you'll find complete ROMs of the previous versions. Install one of those with SmartFlash, then run the LG Mobile Update tool to get the latest.
::Trym
Okay, I see, downloading now. So it is good enough to use one of the smartflash files, I don't have to use nvflash?
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Okay, I see, downloading now. So it is good enough to use one of the smartflash files, I don't have to use nvflash?
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No, you don't have to use NVFlash. The advantage of using the smartflash method is that you get a completely "factory fresh" phone, with all the stock content present (movies, music, pre-installed apps) and you're sure to get a matching baseband and ROM.
Note that you have to flash both files, both the baseband and the ROM. The LG update tool won't update if you have a "new" baseband on an old ROM.
::Trym
So the firmwares from that post do not include the baseband? Anyway, I'm currently running baseband 405, so I guess this is sufficient to get the new update. And the new update will then overwrite everything to the latest official version, both ROM and baseband, correct?
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So the firmwares from that post do not include the baseband? Anyway, I'm currently running baseband 405, so I guess this is sufficient to get the new update. And the new update will then overwrite everything to the latest official version, both ROM and baseband, correct?
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Yes, it does. Each firmware pack comes with TWO files, the baseband and the ROM. To make sure you avoid any trouble, just flash them both, though, as you say, you can probably stay on the one you have, as yes, the LG Mobile Update tool will overwrite both the baseband and the ROM with the new versions.
::Trym
Flashing of old firmware, with subsequent upgrade to latest release for Norway is complete.
I got version V10c, with baseband 1035.21_20110622, kernel 2.6.32.9. My mobile data seems to be enabled as soon as I get mobile coverage (which admittedly is poor right where I live). Even though it pains me, I guess I should leave it as stock for a day or so to see how it behaves.
I guess rooting it shouldn't affect performance in any way?
My initial experience is that it is much more snappy than the stock firmware that the phone came with, but time will show
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Flashing of old firmware, with subsequent upgrade to latest release for Norway is complete.
I got version V10c, with baseband 1035.21_20110622, kernel 2.6.32.9. My mobile data seems to be enabled as soon as I get mobile coverage (which admittedly is poor right where I live). Even though it pains me, I guess I should leave it as stock for a day or so to see how it behaves.
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Yeah, you probably should, as your mission right now is to find out whether you can get a stable mobile data connection or not.
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I guess rooting it shouldn't affect performance in any way?
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Not to my knowledge, but I'd still advise you to wait a few days while sorting out the connection issue. Not that I think rooting it would affect that one way or another, but if you can't get it work as it is, you can return the phone in the state it is now, factory fresh.
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My initial experience is that it is much more snappy than the stock firmware that the phone came with, but time will show
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It certainly is. It also *stays* snappy over time, which can't be said for the 10a/b versions.
::Trym
The first test drive with the new firmware has been completed. On the way out it switched to mobile data flawlessly, but a longer drive it started falling out and reappearing for only short periods. When we stopped at the destination seemed to stabilise with a 3G connection again.
For the return trip I selected use only 2G network. The network connection remained stable for the entire journey.
I will have to test more, but the conclusion seems to be that it has trouble switching between the 2G and 3G networks when moving. I will try the same trip with a Telenor SIM card, and with different combinations of enabling 2G and 3G modes.
By the way, what is the difference between forcing 2G in the regular settings menu and in the special information menu?
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I will have to test more, but the conclusion seems to be that it has trouble switching between the 2G and 3G networks when moving. I will try the same trip with a Telenor SIM card, and with different combinations of enabling 2G and 3G modes.
By the way, what is the difference between forcing 2G in the regular settings menu and in the special information menu?
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The 2G only setting in the phone menu equals the "GSM only" setting in the INFO-menu. I'm far from an expert in these matters, this thread has an overview: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=675136& of what the different modes do.
::Trym
More testing seems to indicate that as long as i leave "use 2G only" check, my mobile data connection seems to be pretty stable. It even switches between 2G and 3G, although apparently a bit more conservatively.
I guess I get to keep my phone anyway
Now for some rooting...
Just an update on the results from my testing. The second time I went out my mobile connection never appeared. This was with only 2G checked in the settings menu. In the Info menu, this corresponded to GSM only.
I then changed it to GSM auto (PRL), and then I got my intermittent mobile data again. I then change it to WCDMA preferred, and my data connection seems to be stable for now. This apparently requires much more testing...
F another chapter in the connectivity saga. Having WCDMA preferred selected in the Info menu, things mostly work, although the data connection drops sometimes.
Another problem I'm noticing with the stock ROM is that it usually is unable to reconnect to my home WiFi network when it comes within range. I have the money was selected to reconnect. Sometimes I even find it disabled in the list.

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