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GPS not working without Data Plan

Afters many hours searching the net and xda i could not find answers to these questions.
1) Does the rogers dream/g1 GPS work without a data plan? (using a standalone GPS app for example: CoPilot)
2) Does rogers Dream/G1 require data in order to initially find the satellites?
3) If you have no data plan are you able to get a lock on the satellites?
4) Can i manually enter my coordinates (longitude/latitude) for my gps in order to find the satellites quicker?
Here is what happened, i got fed up with rogers and decided to cancel my data plan (its just not worth paying 25$ for just 500mb per month). But since i canceled i noticed i am unable to find satellites for my GPS. Using multiple apps (GPS Test, GPS Status, CoPilot, etc...) none of them could get a lock on any satellites or even find one for that matter. I had my phone outside in a clear view of the sky when i was trying these apps.
By the way its not a hardware issue, because it worked before i canceled the data plan. I purchased the standalone map software called CoPilot in order for me to use when i canceled my data plan. (The US/CANADA maps are already installed on my sdcard).
Data was not important to me, since i quite often use my wifi, but not having my GPS working because i canceled my data is really making a paper weight out of my phone
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated!, as i am sure that there are many other users who would like to have these questions answered before making the decision to cancel their data plan.

1) Yes.
2) No.
3) Yes.
4) No.
Note that robbers really screwed some things up badly on the latest "update" that they sent out for DREAM hardware -- along with locking the thing down to prevent you from fixing it yourself. I think they want to make it look like crap and be locked in to its obsolete version of Android permanently. They are obviously fishing for more service contracts. I wouldn't be surprised if they broke GPS.
Note: It could be that you just aren't in a spot to easily receive GPS.

Thank you for the response!!! lbcoder, and i am happy you kept your answers to a yes or no (that was exactly what i was looking for).
I was wondering if you could help me some more. Instead of doing the robbers 911 update, i followed the instructions from cyanogen to bypass this since i already had my phone rooted, i used this guide wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Upgrade_Rogers_Dream_Radio
Before i did this update i was running enomther rom and also wesgarner rom. Both worked flawlessly and GPS also worked with both. But once rogers sent out the 911 update, that's when i cancelled my data plan, and followed cyanogen instructions to bypass this.
1) Could it be that its cyanogen new v4.2.14.1 rom that is causing the issue of my gps not working?
2) What are other roms i can try that works with cyanogen new radio update?
Thanks again for your help!

ifactory said:
1) Could it be that its cyanogen new v4.2.14.1 rom that is causing the issue of my gps not working?
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Possible. Cyanogen isn't known for being particularly stable.
2) What are other roms i can try that works with cyanogen new radio update?
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I believe that you should be able to use ANY ROM that you like. The only issue is that the kernel you use must be compatible with that radio (i.e. built from the HTC source).
There is no guarantee, but there is a high likelihood that the appropriate kernel will work with pretty much any system image. So you should be able to switch out the boot.img and any kmods from any rom to make something that works.
Just be sure that you don't go messing with the radio or spl on your phone and keep a good nandroid backup in case you need to backtrack.
Now if you aren't comfortable making this kind of modification (i.e., if you have to ask....), then you might want to go searching for ROMs that are specifically listed as compatible. I don't have any robbers hardware, so I don't know which specific roms to suggest to you.

I was able to install two roms aside from cyanogen, using the new radio. One was by wesgarner and the other by benbuchacher. Both roms are not able to find any satellites for the gps.
So i can confirm this issue has nothing to do with the roms.
CAN ANYBODY CONFIRM THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO USE THEIR GPS WITH A ROGERS DREAM PHONE, WITH THEIR DATA PLAN CANCELED?

The G1 GPS uses ASSISTED location when it can, meaning when you use the GPS along with the data services it will be able to lock onto a signal pretty much instantaneously. If you turn off your data, if can take the GPS a LONG time to find location (I've seen it take upwards of 5 minutes.)

lbcoder said:
Possible. Cyanogen isn't known for being particularly stable.
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not sure which version were you using but Cyanogen is one of the best roms and stable ones, maybe you used the experimental version

lbcoder said:
Possible. Cyanogen isn't known for being particularly stable.
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GPS is working fine with & without data for the version of cyanogenmod mentioned.

pk198105 said:
not sure which version were you using but Cyanogen is one of the best roms and stable ones, maybe you used the experimental version
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Any of them. They're all bloated piggish things that barely work at all. Fine if you like bleeding edge and useless features. Not if you actually want your something productive.

it works fine.

Sprint Users Whats not Working 2.1?

Being a sprint user myself upon the camera development this morning (still needs work but something is better than nothing)
i have come to realize that Eclair and Android on The Sprint HTC Touch
is very close to complete.
only things left that i know of are:
bluetooth audio (music playback)
video recording
Video playback
but i want to see if anybody else has found anything.

thoughtlesskyle said:
Being a sprint user myself upon the camera development this morning (still needs work but something is better than nothing)
i have come to realize that Eclair and Android on The Sprint HTC Touch
is very close to complete.
only things left that i know of are:
bluetooth audio
and video recording
but i want to see if anybody else has found anything.
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bt audio works for calls.

Yea I know it is but not for audio routing so you can't listen to music through it

Video playback is also still not working.

I'm running the super eclair from incubus
Well the camera on mine still isn't working after the update. It loads but when i take a picture it crashes.
I'm very new to this so I'm trying to learn as I go.
but also I'm not receiving text for some reason, everything else seems to be working fairly well.

diabolicalnyc said:
I'm running the super eclair from incubus
Well the camera on mine still isn't working after the update. It loads but when i take a picture it crashes.
I'm very new to this so I'm trying to learn as I go.
but also I'm not receiving text for some reason, everything else seems to be working fairly well.
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Text messaging is a known issue with super eclair. It works on other builds.

cool now that the camera is working does everyone have MMS setup to send?

acegolfer said:
Text messaging is a known issue with super eclair. It works on other builds.
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He mentioned it was.
maybe i'll try another one. I really like his version but text is pretty important.

My phone specifies that its a Tmobile my touch now after upgrading it to Myn’s Warm Donut Android 1.6 with Prodical Sun Theme. Also I get a MMI code issue. What should I do to fix this.

Tsvallette said:
My phone specifies that its a Tmobile my touch now after upgrading it to Myn’s Warm Donut Android 1.6 with Prodical Sun Theme. Also I get a MMI code issue. What should I do to fix this.
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its always going to say my touch 3G, thats just what he has the build set to recognize the phone as, it shouldn't cause any problems
i have no clue what an MMI code is so im not sure

This is day two of going back to this phone and I dont have any data connection. In two more days according to Sprint I should have 100 percent access to whats on my account. I hope I have data connection soon. If I dont have it back by then I will be posting it here. I miss my data connection!

Tsvallette said:
This is day two of going back to this phone and I dont have any data connection. In two more days according to Sprint I should have 100 percent access to whats on my account. I hope I have data connection soon. If I dont have it back by then I will be posting it here. I miss my data connection!
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what happened there, was your Data working before you flashed to android?

I have the Vogue and the Titan. I switched from my Vogue to the Titan due to some minor issues and now my Titan is doing the same thing. Before switching back to my Vogue I flashed the rom with the Android, liked it alot and then called up sprint and did a switch back to my newly improved Vogue. According to the sprint rep it will take upto 4 days for all provisioning to be complete. As of right now I have it all working except for the data. My phone doesnt even show a data connection and when it tries to access something via internet it says "You don't have a network connection. Ths could be a temporary problem or your SIM card may not be provisioned for data services. Please try again when you are connected. If it continues, call Customer Care."
Ohh yah, *2 and *4 doesnt work. I was going to call them today to see if they could speed things up but cant call them this way.

Tsvallette said:
I have the Vogue and the Titan. I switched from my Vogue to the Titan due to some minor issues and now my Titan is doing the same thing. Before switching back to my Vogue I flashed the rom with the Android, liked it alot and then called up sprint and did a switch back to my newly improved Vogue. According to the sprint rep it will take upto 4 days for all provisioning to be complete. As of right now I have it all working except for the data. My phone doesnt even show a data connection and when it tries to access something via internet it says "You don't have a network connection. Ths could be a temporary problem or your SIM card may not be provisioned for data services. Please try again when you are connected. If it continues, call Customer Care."
Ohh yah, *2 and *4 doesnt work. I was going to call them today to see if they could speed things up but cant call them this way.
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yea so i have an easy fix to your problem, flash back to windows mobile once its back an loaded access the internet, it should do some sort of dialing #777 thing then flash back to android after IE loads any sort of web page.
you should be perfectly provisioned right now the max it usually takes is like 24 hours, although i do still have nightmares from my days as a service tech provisioning those sprint Direct Connect phones
but yea so if you were in android before you activated the phone thats why you dont have data

Thank you. I relized that I would probable needed to do this but I didnt want to if there was a easier way to resolve this issue. I recall that I needed to do this when I went for stock rom to nfs 6.5 and had no internet as well. I then needed to load the 6.3 rom and then back to 6.5. This time I reverted to the 6.3 nfs rom and straight to this one.

okay so I am super new to this...i have a sprint vogue and i am running the zen-hero files from my sd card...I cannot get my caller id to work to save my life...it shows just numbers when someone calls me please help...

Vogue users... I need help with testing.

I need a Vogue user who wants to install VaniljEclair RLS9 and then add the update attached in this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7511486&postcount=612
I want to now a few things before I push the changes in libhtcgeneric-ril.so to the repo.
1. Does the cell tower location changes break anything for Vogue users (I'm pretty sure cell tower location won't work on Vogues but as long as the changes doesn't break Vogue compability then the change would be OK to push)
To test this, just make sure phone calls and data traffic works.
2. Does the pin code changes work on Vogue, at least I'm pretty sure they shouldn't break anything but it would be nice to know if it works on Vogues aswell.
To test this, enable pincode security in Windows mobile (or use another phone to do it) and see if accepts your pincode in android.
If you want to try changing the pincode you propably should use a spare SIM card. It worked fine for me on my Kaiser but I guess there is a risk involved.

I could try and test this, but 1 main question:
I use Sprint network - so my vogue's do NOT have a SIM card?
Would loading this provide any useful testing?
Or does the testing require a phone with SIM card?

Does_It_Matter said:
I could try and test this, but 1 main question:
I use Sprint network - so my vogue's do NOT have a SIM card?
Would loading this provide any useful testing?
Or does the testing require a phone with SIM card?
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Testing would still be helpful, just to now it still works just as it did before the update.

OK, will try it out after I backup some of my stuff on the phone.
1 More question:
I'm currently running Incubus Release 12 Froyo with the 7/26/10 NBH file
Can I just go ahead and install Eclair?
Or do I actually need to flash an eclair NBH?

kallt_kaffe,
I'm running Froyo RLS 12 from Incubus
I saw your androidupdate.tar file only had this 1 file changed: libhtcgeneric-ril.so
I said what the hell, and just went and applied the update to Froyo RLS 12
Rebooted the phone - no issues, can still make phone calls and can still do data/internet
Is that a good enough test?
Or does Eclair specifically have to be installed on the phone?

Does_It_Matter said:
kallt_kaffe,
I'm running Froyo RLS 12 from Incubus
I saw your androidupdate.tar file only had this 1 file changed: libhtcgeneric-ril.so
I said what the hell, and just went and applied the update to Froyo RLS 12
Rebooted the phone - no issues, can still make phone calls and can still do data/internet
Is that a good enough test?
Or does Eclair specifically have to be installed on the phone?
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Interesting... I didn't think Froyo would run with a libhtcgeneric-ril.so compiled for Eclair. I've tried the other way around and it left me without any data or phone connetion.
As for your previous question. You can use the froyo kernel on VaniljEclair RLS9. And if it isn't to much trouble, then please test it with eclair too even thought the Froyo test propably proves it works on Vogues.

hey K_K i can test it my vogue isnt active though, if you still need people to test it only problem is i wouldnt be able to do it till later tonight

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hey K_K i can test it my vogue isnt active though, if you still need people to test it only problem is i wouldnt be able to do it till later tonight
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That's OK. Let me know how it goes.

I've been running your Vanilla Eclair full time since release 8, IMHO it is the fastest and most reliable 2.1/2.2 build out there. I will load the update and let you know if I see any issues.
Mike

Well I can confirm that the cell tower location does NOT work for me (Vogue on Verizon CDMA), which I believe was expected. I noticed no other issues with phone/data service though.
Mike

kallt_kaffe said:
Interesting... I didn't think Froyo would run with a libhtcgeneric-ril.so compiled for Eclair. I've tried the other way around and it left me without any data or phone connetion.
As for your previous question. You can use the froyo kernel on VaniljEclair RLS9. And if it isn't to much trouble, then please test it with eclair too even thought the Froyo test propably proves it works on Vogues.
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Yep - HTC Touch Vogue - Sprint Service
Works without any problems using your fixed file
Data works, calls work, and hell, it even works on Froyo RLS 12 as an update!
Nice one.

golfnz34me said:
Well I can confirm that the cell tower location does NOT work for me (Vogue on Verizon CDMA), which I believe was expected. I noticed no other issues with phone/data service though.
Mike
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I believe he's just trying to see if the changes he made affect Vogue users at all. The changes were for cell tower location on GSM networks, and since Vogues use CDMA it won't work. He just wants to make sure that CDMA doesn't break. You shouldn't expect to see anything new, just that everything is working as it used to, and it's a good sign that it is.

Thanks everyone who has tested. I'll consider the test to be over and I'll push the new code today.

Anything not work in the new leak?

Since upgrading will take you off the upgrade path, I was just wondering if there is something on the new build that isn't working.
Like camera, video, data etc.

Honestly, I wouldn't jump on it unless you really need it (I've heard it makes GSM work a lot better). AFAIK, it hasn't even been rooted yet, which means you are giving up a LOT just to get ICS, which you can do from the stock rom and safestrap.

If you root just before flashing and use voodoo rootkeeper you can keep root. I unfortunately forgot to re-root after I needed to flash SBF (wouldn't update). So far everything works for me. Well except root that is. But to tell you the truth. I only used root to change the build.prop and have write access to system (notifications etc). Owh and freeze apps. But thats it.
So far so good! The battery won't last as long as on 219. But by how much I'll have to test. On 219 I ran in 2G mode all the time. So it isn't a real fair comparison. Yesterday I turned off all sync and push and disabled some applications. So we'll see how long it will last today.. I took it off the charger around 07:50 AM. So don't expect an update 'till tomorrow. It's only 08:50 AM where I live .

For the gsm users i recommend this update if you can go with no root
The rom is actually more responsive and most importantly, it dun drop the line that often
And ics with WORKING camera & video, not much is missing actually

According to this, you can keep root if you install OTA Rootkeeper, back up root, temp unroot, restore root, and THEN apply the update.

I updated and kept root and am very impressed with every aspect of performance on this build.
Battery life the first day was excellent, above average considering I was playing with the phone a lot.
Radio performance on VZW's network with this new baseband is exceptional.
Data throughput and transitions from cellular to WiFi and maintaining data connection were all distinctly improved. I am in a marginal 3g only area where I live and work 90% of the time, but I can go a few miles away to get LTE coverage.
While I cannot openly recommend flashing non revertable leaks to anyone, I cannot say enough about how much I am enjoying this build right now. I have yet to find any downside beyond the fact that we have no full firmware files for this build yet.
This is a superlative build and anyone willing to accept the risk should not be disappointed.

25 hours later there's 30% battery remaining. Made 5 1-minute phone calls. Played about 20 minutes of 3D games. Used internet a couple of times (checked email, whatsapp, some internet apps) and I would say at 90% 3G connection. So that's not so bad I would say.

Stuff not Working
For me, my Facebook app (built-in) is not working, and constantly crashes. I finally disabled the app completely to stop getting the crash pop-ups.
Also, built-in MotoCast disappeared, and it does not show up for me in the Play Store (probably because they have not released an ICS version of the app for non-tablets yet in the Store).
Other than those 2 so far, everything I have tested and checked works like a dream come true.

Everything is working great for me. The ota rootkeeper worked as well. Im running the leak with root.. the facebook app that came on the leak needs update. Its an older version. May be the reason
Sent from my DROID4 using xda premium

Anyone else have problems with the headphone jack not working?

Everything seems to work fine for me so far.
Motocast is built in to "My Files", "My Gallery", and "My Music" now. I just installed it and seems to work fine.

Negative. Just drove 20 hours with headphones on.
Sent from my DROID4 using xda premium

What's the battery like for GSM users on 3G with the new leak?
Sent from my XT860 running ICS

I also am having problems with the headphone jack. Is there a fix for this?

mcochon said:
I also am having problems with the headphone jack. Is there a fix for this?
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Please be more specific about the headphones.
I haven't had any issues with Klipsch X10 headphones at all, but mine is only a 2 prong headset, without microphone or call control features.

I've had some odd headphone issues and I am NOT on the leak.
I'll plug in headphones, but the phone won't switch from the loudspeaker to the headphones. Unplugging and replugging the headphones in usually fixes the issue. Kind of annoying, but I use headphones so infrequently on my phone anyway that I haven't done any hard investigating on whether it is a software or hardware issue.
I'm leaning towards hardware though, because IIRC it happens on stock and the GB-ICS frankenbuilds.

This may be a stupid question but does anyone know if there is going to be a way to reverse being taken off the upgrade path? Im new to the forums and I just started getting into rooting and flashing roms. Im running a nightly build of the aokp ics with cm9. Im happy with it so far but would love to use my camcorder again lol. Are there any other issues with this version of ics?

I dont know about reversing the upgrade path but i do know that everything works really great on my d4 running the leaked ics.
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This may be a stupid question but does anyone know if there is going to be a way to reverse being taken off the upgrade path? Im new to the forums and I just started getting into rooting and flashing roms. Im running a nightly build of the aokp ics with cm9. Im happy with it so far but would love to use my camcorder again lol. Are there any other issues with this version of ics?
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You SHOULD be able to get back on the upgrade path using the same method others have used to go from the .200 ICS leak to the .206 ICS leak. That involves a partial flash of the .219 fastboot file to essentially trick the update into thinking you are still on .219. But there are no guarantees.

I see. Thank you for your input. One more thing does anyone know if the gummy rom has been updated? I was using it for a few days but decided to go to the aokp for better 4g functionality.

[Q] Latest/best rom with everything working?

Tried 10.1 no external mic/voice deal killer. Cm9 no 3/4g radios deal killer, CM10 no gps deal killer. So There are no updated roms that that keep ALL of what I consider core functionality? So I'm on 3.2 any suggestions on the best 3.2 rom? I've re-flashed at least 5 times looking for the "perfect" rom and I'm really sick of entering all my info/apps only to flash them away....
10.1 was great but losing the mic/voice interface is unacceptable. Also the voice interface on 3.2 seems similar to "google now" but not quite can it be upgraded to full functionality?
I'm currently StreakDroid-HD7R3-4G-105 tried r8 first and it wouldn't boot so any thoughts on r4/7 or is the anther rom family to that's better? Thanks for you input..

Stick with what you have.
Microphone is an easy fix, we just haven't gotten around to it. We have lifes to live

giveen said:
Stick with what you have.
Microphone is an easy fix, we just haven't gotten around to it. We have lifes to live
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Thanks I tried to work around with a bluetooth headset, no joy. when I open voice search it crashes, am I wasting my time there? And thanks for all you efforts, it just that I'm an idiot buying a t-mobile 4g etc. I thought it was also PHONE! Stupid me, but for $120 I"ll beat it with a hammer until it gives in or dies.. So I'm trying correct my ignorance, and get either real or voip phone calls so a mic is kinda important.

Hey scott, you mean 10.1 has 4G band working? Ive been using R8 since thats the only one I know that uses 4G band for sure. Even tho the icon is broke. As for your R8 not booting, did you nvram flash R2 1st then cwm to R8?

I ended up back on r8, I tore everything out and started from scratch and it seems to be working pretty well now. I don't think I redid the partitions when I first rolled back from 10.1 the first time, and that caused all kinds of access errors.

Restore 2.2 found here was invaluable in rolling back all the way to 2.2 for a fresh start..
http://d-h.st/users/TheManii?fld_id=1681