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Please Assist - Questions..... (roms / g1)

ok - i have a G1 ... fully functional etc
anyway - i started looking into putting SenseUI on it - and then about 15mins ago came across the cyanogen thread and became very intrigured....
i have a couple questions
1. with the latest release of the ROM, is the phone fully functional?? - no restrictions etc? tmo doesnt mind or restrict you etc? - i still want all features working
2. is there a step by step on installing the rom? - i looked around a bit but found multiple conflicting instructions/recommendations -
3. WORST case scenario, can i always go right back to where im at now? - official tmo/google release, fully functional, normal g1? - or am i stuck
my biggest concern is ruining the phone - im just getting in to G1 editing etc - ive always been too nervous because its my main phone and only phone - but i used to do all kinds of crazy things with my old blackberry - beta releases from overseas etc etc - just havent gotten the balls to mess with my g1
but ill be honest, i hate the iphone (not sure why) - but im getting kind of fed up with the G1 - i love it, dont get me wrong - but the add-ons/functions i read in cyans rom intrigured me a lot
so with all this being said - please answer my questions listed above
i dont care so much about the files/apps - i can always re-download the apps i use etc... and the pics/vids i can back up to my pc
thanks in advance!!!!

the current stable release of cyanogen's rom in 4.0.1 and it is very stable and much faster than stock cupcake. the only thing missing as far as i can tell is the myfaves app. but i do not care bc i can update that online. everything in market works. plus many extras from donut.
are you rooted? if not, go to the market.
search for recovery flasher.
download it.
then go to cyanogen's thread and download 4.0.1.
put it on the root of your sdcard (upmost folder).
use the recovery flasher app to apply cyanogen's recovery image 1.4 on your phone.
power off your phone.
hold home and power to boot into recovery.
it should have a green android with text in front of it.
go to flash any .zip.
select the 4.0.1 file you put on your sdcard from above.
hit home to apply it.
after it finishes and tells you to reboot the phone then select reboot phone on the menu.
let the phone boot up.
may take 5 to 10 minutes.
then look into partitioning your sdcard for apps2sd and a linux-swap partition if you want those options.
yes you can easily revert the phone to stock rom like you never rooted it.
when you boot the phone up the first time, if you get a lot of force closes then boot into recovery.
go to the recovery console
hit enter
type fix_permissions
then type reboot
if that does not work then you will have to wipe the phone from the recovery menu and re-flash the rom
any other questions

trying it now - (crosses fingers)

its been on the NEW adroid splash screen ( the one with the android on a skateboard) for a while now... it stops highlighting once in a while and flashes off - then starts again... its been about 7-8mins i think..... is this normal?

got it!
thanks!!!

your welcome. did you have root or did you use the recovery flasher app? because if you used the recovery flasher app there is a quick question i have

i didnt have root at all prior to me trying this tonight

something i would try. power your phone down. hold the camera button and power button (this boots up into bootloader) if you get a rainbow screen then you will want to flash the hard spl(androids on skateboards with a white background). so you can you use fastboot. here is where you can get the hard spl. just boot into recovery and flash it. i do not know if flashing the hard spl will wipe your phone like flashing haykuro's spl will, but you would much rather have the hard spl than not having it so the pros far outweigh the cons. welcome to your newly rooted phone. if you have any questions feel free to pm me and i will do my best to answer them.

david1171 said:
something i would try. power your phone down. hold the camera button and power button (this boots up into bootloader) if you get a rainbow screen then you will want to flash the hard spl(androids on skateboards with a white background). so you can you use fastboot. here is where you can get the hard spl. just boot into recovery and flash it. i do not know if flashing the hard spl will wipe your phone like flashing haykuro's spl will, but you would much rather have the hard spl than not having it so the pros far outweigh the cons. welcome to your newly rooted phone. if you have any questions feel free to pm me and i will do my best to answer them.
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Thanks for the step by step guide David...
I would like to ask a question on ROM types. I am currently using JF's 1.51. I have no problem with this (occasional force closes, which I suspect is from the SetCPU app). I have hearing lots of updates from CyanogenMod's ROM. What are the main differences? From your experience, what do you think are the disadvantages of CyanogenMod's ROM versus JF's 1.51? Would appreciate any help you can give. Thanks

erlern said:
From your experience, what do you think are the disadvantages of CyanogenMod's ROM versus JF's 1.51? Would appreciate any help you can give. Thanks
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sorry i almost cried when i saw disadvantages lol.
1 you do not have to overclock bc the phone is set up to overclock when it needs it and to underclock when it doesn't need it.
2 apps2sd is automatic if you have a second partition. there's a great guide for easily partition your phone with cyanogen's 1.31+ recovery image.
3 many cool things from donut.
4 a lot of themes are made for cm roms
5 a lot of stuff too much for me to list
if you really want to try it just get his latest recovery image. download 4.0.1 or whatever the latest stable release is. make a nandroid back up. flash the rom, and if you don't like it, or want to go back to JF then you can easily

David, Thanks for this. Just for kicks. If i want to reset to the factory defaults all I need to select is the "wipe data/factory reset" from recovery?

I think my post just disappeared...anyway... David, Just for kicks, If I need the phone back to original settings, I need to select the "wipe data/factory default" option in recovery? This will keep the new recovery method, just deletes the rom?

You will keep the recovery image. Yes it will just clear you data and stuff off the phone. Things like recovery image, SPL, and radio do not get wiped. If you do wipe just reflash a rom and you will be good to go.
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david1171 said:
sorry i almost cried when i saw disadvantages lol.
1 you do not have to overclock bc the phone is set up to overclock when it needs it and to underclock when it doesn't need it.
2 apps2sd is automatic if you have a second partition. there's a great guide for easily partition your phone with cyanogen's 1.31+ recovery image.
3 many cool things from donut.
4 a lot of themes are made for cm roms
5 a lot of stuff too much for me to list
if you really want to try it just get his latest recovery image. download 4.0.1 or whatever the latest stable release is. make a nandroid back up. flash the rom, and if you don't like it, or want to go back to JF then you can easily
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I like your SPL on your signiture. Im guessing its the danger SPL

Yeah it references the danger spl lol. I think thats the feeling that anyone gets when flashing it. I know i was like i really hope this works or i'm going to be sad.

Original question(s) seem to be solved.
Closing thread

Unable to flash Anything else

i have done quite a few searches on this and yet have found nothing so i hope i dont get reamed for posting this.
if someone has a link for this answer id be very thankful.
if not then PLEASE SOMEONE EXPLAIN!!!!!!!
at the moment i am running drizzy hero rom. to do the update i did use the one touch root. on a second phone i did it manually. on both i added the hard spl and am running the RA v 1.2.1 recovery. I liked this ROM and wanted to see what bugs it had. after a few days i wanted to switch and try a different ROM I have dl most of the ROMs available and already have them on my sdcard once i did this no ROM would load except for Drizzy(new Vision v2.8). after trying a few things and accomplishing nothing i decided to redo EVERYTHING. unrooted my phone rooted again applied recovery made sure radio was to date and spl. and still nothing i cant even run the original jf1.5 that i was using before deciding to port. this issue is occuring on both phones. 1st phone was again done with one step root and the 2nd phone was done completly manually. I REALLY REALLY REALLY want to try these other roms SO PLEASE SOMEONE HELP. if you need more information on what i did with these phones ill gladly tell you step by step on what i did.
sorry for that.
I was using my G1 and also had a friends. On my g1 i used the one step root. I used the Instructions from The Unlocker.com. It uses flashrec.apk and also Amon Ra's recovery image. After that i went over to the How to Load a Custom ROM. same site. It asks you to check the Radio and the Spl. The radio is 2.22.19.26I and the spl used was the HARDSPL 1.33.2005.
Once i finished that i went and formated the sdcard to Fat32+Ext2+LinuxSwap also converted Ext2 to Ext3.Then I did-Move Dalvik Cache to SD. last 3 steps to speed up hero. after all of that I loaded 4 ROMS CyanogenMod ROM, jACXHeroSkiv Hero ROM v1.8, Drizzy’s NewVision TouchFlo ROM, and JF v1.5 Cupcake ROM. I have only flashed Drizzy's until last night.
I was unable to flash any other one and when i flashed back to drizzy I had problems loading it back but eventually loaded fully the issue was running the startup wizard it kept crashing. after a reboot it was ok.

Give us step by step on what you did and USE PARAGRAPHS
that whole thing looked like mumbo jumbo to me
put new lines where they belong to help separate out the steps you took

FIXED! thanks!

hobbitton said:
FIXED! thanks!
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did you do a data wipe? you need to wipe going from hero to cupcake/donut

When I first did all of that I did. Am I supposed to data wipe everytime I switch the Rom?

hobbitton said:
When I first did all of that I did. Am I supposed to data wipe everytime I switch the Rom?
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when your using hero rom's, yes.
if your upgrading cupcake roms (ie cyan 4.0.4 to 4.1.9.2 ), no
If its not working, WIPE
you cant go from hero to cupcake without wiping and not expect a lot of problems. they cause too many issues.
hero roms use the data partition differently

also remember to wipe /system/sd/ to clear all of that out. pull your /system/sd/ to your computer first though

thanks you guys it helped alot

simplest way to switch from JF 1.5 to current Cyan?

I bought a g1 off of craigslist and it already had root. JF 1.4 ....
Around the time cupcake was released I updated it to jf 1.51
Now since there will be no more JF updates I wish to switch to Cyan builds.
I'm unsure of the proper way of doing this?
Should I go back stock .. unroot and then go thru the steps to load cyan?
Or is there a better way? A wipe?
I'm asking to be clear because internet access is strictly from my g1.
Although I can download all the files I need, I do not have constant access.
I'd appreciate any tips or pointing me to the proper thread.

Check the threads in Dream >Dream Android Development look for Cyanogen's thread on his release of 4.1.999, follow the instructions and you will be fine. I'd also suggest at least flashing Cyanogen's v1.4 Recovery Image over JF's, easier to flash any .zip on sdcard. So, new recovery image (use search option in forums, or look in the same thread i mentioned for cyanogen recovery image 1.4) then update to cyanogen's latest rom build

So simply flash a new recovery, then follow the cyan steps?
Cool, easy as pie.
I certainly appreciate it.
Thank you

Yup. just be careful that you dont boot off the htc recovery rom, or the steps to get to cyans rom become much, much harder

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Yup. just be careful that you dont boot off the htc recovery rom, or the steps to get to cyans rom become much, much harder
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that is why there is a full update made for it.

haha o right i forgot about that one... no one asked questions about a bad all-in-one flash, only those who messed up while flashing the htc rom
i need sleep lol

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haha o right i forgot about that one... no one asked questions about a bad all-in-one flash, only those who messed up while flashing the htc rom
i need sleep lol
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sleep is for the weak. also it is really hard to flash two things while in recovery it causes hemorrhoids and anal fissures.

haha trust me...someone somewhere will make something incredibly easy look like rocketscience

B-man007 said:
haha trust me...someone somewhere will make something incredibly easy look like rocketscience
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you mean rocketsurgery

david1171 said:
you mean rocketsurgery
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*sigh*
yes its true.

B-man007 said:
*sigh*
yes its true.
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lmao me went to smart person learning place

I'd like to chime in here as well since I'm having such a hard time searching for info on the conversion from jf1.51 to the latest build of CM. The amount of posts are staggering!
So, I vaguely remember setting up apps2sd following the guide at the bottom of this page - http://yokohead.com/2009/06/how-to-root-android-g1-with-cupcake-and-appstosd/
Will CM automatically detect this partition?
Also, will I lose the google experience? I'm still confused as to where we are on that.
Thanks for your time! If anyone knows an updated post on this process, please point me to it.
TJ

Well the sticky by fingerlickin at the top of this section is a good place to start....
all you have to do is find the singleflash update in the dev section, backup and clear everything off your ext3, and wipe+flash the single update. you can restore the ext backup then.
also you should upgrade to cyan 1.4 recovery
to do so
su
cd /sdcard
wget http://n0rp.chemlab.org/android/cm-recovery-1.4.img
flash_image recovery /sdcard/cm-recovery-1.4.img
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you wont lose the google experience

Thanks B-Man007,
After a couple attempts, all is working well. I'm thoroughly impressed with the snappiness of this build. Although it's only my second time updating a ROM, I'm going to blame the amount of posts for my hesitation and confusion. It was easy to just go in and do it.
I actually updated to the latest Amon-Ra(sp?) recovery. At first my Rom was running real slow and the recovery allowed me to update my ext2 to ext3. Loving it now!

The amount of posts does make it quite confusing i agree, especially with the high amount of conflicting posts
Ya ext3 is a must, but you could have upgraded from cyans too haha
cyan usually has the fastest builds out there though at times it can get very slow.

Another noob here. A few months ago I rooted and flashed to xrom 1.5. When I do a reboot, my recovery screen tells me its "CyanogenMod v1.4 + JF".
Since xRom is experiencing some problems w/ updates, I figured I might try the latest build of Cyanogen. I re-booted, went to recovery mode. Wiped. Then flashed the latest Cyan and even found the 1.6 ota on another site. Flashed both zips, then did a re-boot and it hangs now.
I tried it over and over a few times, wiping then flashing again. Wiping, then re-booting, then flashing the rom, etc. Over and over with the same results.
Then as a test, I tried flashing back to xRom... perfectly fine.
As another test, I tried wiping and flashing to another rom, the rooted stock option (the HTC rom version)... and got the same results as when I tried Cyan... just hangs.
Wiped and flashed again back to xRom... works fine.
So at this point, I'm thinking I need a more updated recovery rom? Any other possible problems? Yes, I did a search all over and this was the best thread that matched my problem.
If it helps... I have a T-mo G1, firmware 1.5, JACxROMv1.5, kernel version 2.6.29.6-jac-ski root. And I know many will slap their foreheads when I say this: But the SD is NOT partioned at all (kept trying and trying with zero success, so I eventually gave up).

So... Would this work? [G1]

Hello everyone.
I have done a lot of reading and searching regarding rooting a G1. There are so many guides and resources out there I was wondering if you guys could point me to the best (safest?) way to do it.
I have been thinking of rooting it for months due to the benefits I can get once I have done it but the thought of bricking it has been stopping me from doing it. I want to get it over with now and would appreciate if you guys can point me to the best guide and the best rom (I know there is many, I would like speed, stability and some nice features would be cool). I have a G1, I live in the UK and it is supplied by T-Mobile. I keep it up to date with the OTA updates so I think I will have to downgrade which I believe is shown in most guides? If there is any info you guys need, please say.
I would be really thankful if I got some help, it's not something I want to do without proper knowledge (which all of you have). Is it easy enough to do if I follow the instructions and make sure my battery is charged enough?
Also, can we in the UK flash the radio, is that meant to be tampered with, what are the pros and cons of doing that?
Thank you so much.
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Please look at post #6, I made a list of what I think I need to do.

I would suggest finding the 1-click root to make it easy for you. Then, flash the 1.6 HTC image like all builds based off of Cyanogen's build environment require now and then flash @wesgarner's build for the fastest most stable build available.

Here's how to root your phone... nice and simple....
The one click root doesn't work if you've upgraded your phone to the OTA 1.6 update.
So the old instructions would be a safe bet since i don't know if you have 1.5 or 1.6.
Follow these instructions: http://www.myhangoutonline.com/2009/11/20/how-to-root-your-g1/
Then upgrade your radio and SPL from here: http://www.myhangoutonline.com/2009/11/22/upgrade-radio-recovery-spl/
Then if you want to upgrade to the newest CM build do this:
Before you install the Cyanogenmod 4.2.7.1 ROM you need to install the HTC 1.6 Dev Rom first.
HTC took it off their website, i have it uploaded on my site...
do this: ( This is for HTC Dream (G1) )
CLEAR YOUR EXT PARTITION or REPARTITION YOUR CARD to get rid of any Incompatible files.
Download CM 4.2.7.1 -> http://www.myhangoutonline.com/downloads/?did=17
Download HTC Dream Image 1.6 -> http://www.myhangoutonline.com/downloads/?did=6
Place them both on the root of your SDCard.
Reboot your phone into recovery mode...
1. WIPE
2. Install HTC Dream Image
3. Hit Reboot when it's done (and keep an eye on the phone!)
4. you will see the little picture with an arrow (radio installation), WHEN YOU SEE THE PHONE REBOOT HOLD THE HOME KEY. It should reboot right back into recovery.
5. Now install the CM ROM
6. Reboot and you're done...
Hope that helps!

http://androidoverdrive.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=7

Thank you all for the information and links.
I have been doing a lot more reading today and think I might go with Dwang's rom. From what I understand (to do it the quick way) I need to revert my G1 back to Cupcake (RC7 for europe?) from Donut 1.6. Then Download the recovery flasher and flash a recovery image, do I use Amon Ra's? Do I then load the rom, then the theme afterwards? I hear people mentioning the radio, is it a necessity for the G1 that I mess with the radio? Is it easy to brick the phone doing it this way?
Thanks again for the help and understanding .

After watching this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCG9XhFmoEw
Could you guys tell me if this would work?
1. Format my SDCard. Transfer the old android (RC7?) image, Amon Ra's recovery image, Dwerg's rom and a nice theme made for the rom to the SD card.
2. Can I use the telnet thing to flash the Aman Ra recovery image?
3. Power off.
4. Power on holding the camera button and the power button and then downgrade my version. Reboot.
5. Turn on and set up my google info. Press enter twice and type "telnetd" and press enter. Proceed to the market and download the telnet app.
6. Run the app, and type in what's needed to flash the new recovery image. Again, can I use Aman Ra's? I'm unsure what to type but I will try and figure it out.
7. Power off.
8. Power on holding the Home and power keys, which should bring me to the new recovery image.
9. If I am flashing Dwerg's do I need to flash 1.6 first like you need to do for CM? Or is that a CM only thing? Flash the rom.
That should be it? Would doing it that way work ok? Less chance of bricking? There was no mention of radio flashing or anything.
Hopefully you guys can help me out.

Andriod Newbie, how to load a ROM?

I'm as green as it gets when it comes to Andriod and all of these custom roms for it and the phones. I am extremely technical, senior dev for 10 years. I know a bit of *nix as well, so command shells aren't new to me and the concept of mounting. I've loaded lots of ROMs (and donated!) on my Windows Mobile device (Touch Pro), so that I have licked fine. Just, now I have an andriod device...
But for the like of me, I am having a hard time finding simple basic instructions on how to load a ROM. All I see are things like "boot to RA". Yes, I've searched and searched with VBulletin's limited forum search (used google to crawl the site too, nada).
What does "RA" mean, and how to do I get to it? LOL See my delima! Does it mean "Root Access", and does that mean I have to root my phone (I am assuming that?). Just don't want to brick my brand new phone!
I just picked up a Sprint Hero and want to load Fresh ROM on it. I have not even activated it!
OS is: 2.27.651.5 I assume this is the "2.1" that people are talking about?
So, if this is the 2.1... Does that mean I cannot root it? And therefore, I cannot load any custom ROM on it?
For example, here are the instructions to load Fresh ROM (and my questions):
•Download and copy the zip to the root of your sdcard
Ok, no problem. The zip is on my flash card. But, do I need to expand it?
•Reboot to RA and do a data wipe / factory reset (REQUIRED)
Again, Reboot to... "RA" what? Root Access?
Also, in the rooting instructions, I don't see anything about "data wipe / factory reset" from whatever this "RA" is.
•You may also need to wipe sd:ext if you are having troubles booting.
How do I do that?
•If you are running Fresh Toast and ext4 then you’ll need to partition back to ext3 if you want to use apps2sd
Say what? How do partition, ext3? ext4? What are those? apps2sd?
Yeah, very new...
The rest of the instructions seem easy enough.
Thanks in advance guys!

You need to root your phone first.
After that the RA everyone is talking about is rebooting into recovery. If you have the android sdk loaded you can send a command like adb reboot recovery or you could also turn on the phone while holding the home button. Then you can do all the wiping and loading of ROMS(just make sure they are for a CDMA hero)
You will need to go into settings -> About phone -> Software Information and look at your firmware version. If it is 2.1 then you can't do anything until an exploit is found. If you are 1.5 then you can root your phone. The easiest way is with fresh kitchen. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=655225

Thank you centran! Fresh Kitchen looks super clean. I'll give that a shot (when I can...).
Humm. The phone came with 2.1-update1 as the firmware.
So I guess that means I am SOL?

yep. sorry

Is there a way to use the normal HTC Utility and flash the ROM to an older version? Sprint has pulled the older versions of the ROM from the site. But, I am sure there's one floating around here somewhere.
Thanks again!

Nope, HBOOT fails to flash, and even though we maanged to bypass HBOOT, main version check still fails.

Looking forward to the hack when it's accomplished! Thanks!

Hahahaha... And as soon as I give up hope, handed it to the wife and said, "Sorry, we can't hack it at this time", I see on xda's homepage that the Hero 2.1-update1 has been rooted!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
Now, does this mean I can snag any of the custom ROMs here and slap it on it? Or, do I need to/should wait for an RUU-hacked version?

Yep, just Root it and then flash away. No need to wait for anything.

Thanks again for the reply!